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Not Using Smartphones Can Improve Productivity By 26%, Says Study (business-standard.com)

Smartphones do a plethora of things for us. But if you stopped using them, you might actually start seeing improvements in the work you do. From a Business-Standard report: The study, commissioned by Kaspersky Lab, showed that employees' performance improved 26 percent when their smartphones were taken away. The experiment tested the behaviour of 95 persons between 19 and 56 years of age in laboratories at the universities of Wurzburg and Nottingham-Trent. The experiment unearthed a correlation between productivity levels and the distance between participants and their smartphones. "Instead of expecting permanent access to their smartphones, employee productivity might be boosted if they have dedicated 'smartphone-free' time. One way of doing this is to enforce rules such as no phones in the normal work environment," says Altaf Halde, managing director, South Asia at Kaspersky Lab.

137 comments

  1. I can't stand smart phones on set! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whenever I am directing a commercial piece, there is always some production assistant or intern NOT paying attention because they just gotta upload this snapchat! Rubbish brains the youth have.

    1. Re:I can't stand smart phones on set! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:I can't stand smart phones on set! by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      You're the director. Can't you thrown them off the set?

  2. Fuck you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah

  3. No productivity gain here, move along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course, if you took away smartphones, people would just spend their time surfing slashdot instead

    1. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by bulled · · Score: 2

      Didn't you know, that is how the authors of the study measured productivity.

    2. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Real loafers know that zen is surfing Slashdot on your smartphone, hiding out in the bathroom away from your desk.

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    3. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Real loafers know that zen is surfing Slashdot on your smartphone, hiding out in the bathroom away from your desk.

      WTF Oswald, you hid the cameras in the wrong fscking bathroom again!!

    4. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Slashdot exists is to keep me amused while I'm waiting for a script at work to finish. Thank you for your participation.

    5. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by Gamasta · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I use leechblock (firefox extension) and block my time-wasters (slashdot included) after 20 minutes every four hours. Has been working wonders for my productivity.

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    6. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I worked at a company before the dot com bust where the managers installed desktop monitoring software. One day my manager ran into my cube to inform me that I shouldn't be browsing Amazon on company time. Only then did he realized that I was eating a breakfast burrito and browsing the Internet on my break, which is acceptable under company policy, and I told him to bugger off. Most of the employees figured out that the company next door had an open wireless access point. Just about everyone got a wireless PDA to browse the Internet.

    7. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      Or finding ways to internet w/o their smartphone.

    8. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as your script is doing compilations, then it's ok. Otherwise...

    9. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by kilodelta · · Score: 2

      You could be in one place I worked. They decided to install an IronPort proxy. We all had Linux boxes in addition to our Windows machines. So we just installed Corkscrew to a remote host under out control. They'd get the DNS dips, but not the page traffic.

    10. Re:No productivity gain here, move along by Gussington · · Score: 1

      Most of the employees figured out that the company next door had an open wireless access point. Just about everyone got a wireless PDA to browse the Internet.

      It's not surprise that the rise corporate internet policies coincided with the rise of mobile internet.
      Every single person I work with has their own laptop tethered through their phone to watch movies/youtube/facebook/porn etc at work. The corporate PCs are clean, and the proxy logs are sparkling, but the worker behaviour is the same as it's always been. Go policy!

  4. Now take my Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please.

  5. As a normal by Nastee · · Score: 1

    person who has never owned a smart phone I can tell you: Würzburg

  6. What was the % gain for by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    What was the % gain for those who never bought into the smartphone fad in the first place?

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    1. Re:What was the % gain for by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Smartphones are a fad the same way that personal computing was a fad decades ago. Especially now that you can get a commodity Android phone for under $30.

      Addiction to repetitive games or apps is a completely separate issue.

    2. Re:What was the % gain for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just like how those newfangled talkies were a fad too?

      You may not have a personal use for one, you may not like them, you may even have some irrational hated of them, but that doesn't make them a fad. Like it or not smart phones (or what ever form they morph into in the future) are here to stay. Having access to a massive chunk of human knowledge sitting in your pocket is a very powerful tool. It would take some serious force (cataclysm or huge social shift) to put that genie back in the bottle.

      Now, some my bitch and whine about others not taking advantage of all that knowledge and instead waste their time using their smart phone for Facebook, Twitter, selfies, cat pictures, etc., but personally I don't concern myself with how other people choose to use their devices, it doesn't affect how I choose to use mine.

    3. Re:What was the % gain for by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they'd make me more productive.

      Without that pesky appointment alarm, I'd never make it to any meetings!

    4. Re:What was the % gain for by ewibble · · Score: 1

      You are assuming productive things happen in meetings, this is generally the opposite in my experience. Maybe that is why people a 26% more productive, all the meetings they miss. Apart from that you don't need a smart phone to have reminder, my feature phone has a calendar feature.

    5. Re:What was the % gain for by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      This billionaire has no use for a cell phone (never mind a smartphone). There are other examples in that annoying one-page-per-person story. The point is that many high-power, high-profile, high-success people don't have one because they don't want one. SJP chose email over a phone, for example.

      As techies "of course" we want a smartphone. Except, with any technology, there are diminishing returns. For example, with monitors. One person just wants a big one. Many want two monitors. Then are those who have three, or six. I think it is safe to say that unless you are a security/network monitoring place, six simply does not make sense. For example, you could go with virtual desktops instead.

      It is like cpu power. For years we all wanted more. With my first (8088) computer I tweaked the RAM refresh rate to gain a few percentage points! Today I run with 3 1/2 cores idle on average. Times change.

      In my case, not that it matters, I have an old slide phone. Because when I am out and about I might need to make an emergency phone call. No, I won't be shopping by smart phone -- Costco is very hard to beat. I won't be getting directions with a smart phone either -- I know my way around the city. Occassionally -- maybe once ever two weeks on average -- I need directions. So, shock of shocks, I write them down. I don't even print them off the computer (though I could). I need two or three key details, why waste the paper printing it? By the way, when you write it down by hand...you burn it into your memory better...so you aren't as distracted while you are driving.

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    6. Re:What was the % gain for by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I bet you're a hoot at parties. Hypothetically speaking.

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    7. Re:What was the % gain for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you're a billionaire you can afford to have no use for a lot of modern innovations and replace them with raw manpower.

    8. Re:What was the % gain for by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      What about writers, famous and very successful, who don't use a computer to write with? Do they dictate everything? No. Some use a mechanical typewriter, some write with pen on paper.

      The point is that they want to focus on what they are doing. When I'm driving, I don't want gadget distractions. Many years back I bought a navigation device, used or tried to use it twice. Threw it out. Google maps works way better for me.

      Techies are going to be the last group to see what a fad smartphones have become. Curved displays? This is more like the ultra-faddish 3D display than a useful display. 256GB SDHC chip when you buy a phone? Who will ever use that before their phone breaks? I have somewhere around 50 SDHC chips or thumb drives, with just a single one close to that capacity, and most 8 to 16 times smaller.

      I can see gullible consumers rushing off and buying a bunch of 256GB chips because that is what they have already. Monkey see, monkey do. Monster cables, meet 256GB chip.

      One other thing that smartphones do that contributes greatly to their uselessness? They run down their battery in a day. My MP3 player does one thing well, is indestructible, easy to plug into my desktop to get more MP3s added to it, and the battery lasts weeks (of my usage, yes). And when the battery is low, I throw it out and pop another one in. Zero charging, the device is always ready. My slide cell phone battery charge lasts weeks, because I keep the phone off and the battery removed until I need it.

      I hate multidriver screwdrivers, where the handle breaks because it is hollow, the device is overly heavy, the bits are always the wrong length, and the one I need is not part of that product.

      Do one thing well is the unix mantra. How did we get so far from that with our cell phones?

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  7. Studies also show more productivity under 40 hours by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wouldn't mind if we combine

    a) Taking a way smart phones during working hours.
    b) Working hours are limited to 35 hours a week (40 hour week with an hour for lunch & breaks each day).
    c) Any employee not allowed to use a smart phone during work can't be required to use a smart phone for work outside of working hours.

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  8. True by definition by Kohath · · Score: 1

    When you define "productivity" to exclude any benefit from doing anything on your phone, then less time spent on your phone leads to more time available for "productivity".

    The question is, why should anyone care? "Productivity" isn't the only thing that matters.

    If you want to be more productive, keep your phone but delete the Facebook app.

    1. Re:True by definition by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      If you want to be more productive, keep your phone but delete the Slashdot app.

      FTFY.

    2. Re:True by definition by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 1

      I would LOVE TO uninstall Facebook from my phone! I've never had, nor wanted, a Facebook account.

      But do you think the faceless bastards at Facebook/Google/LG/AT&T/whoever infected my phone with this crap will LET me uninstall it? Hell, no! That would be too sensible and respectful of the owner's choices!

      The best I can do with this evil waste of my hardware/storage/etc is to disable it, revoke all its permissions, and stop it from updating itself. Nice one, corporate drones. You're pointlessly using my storage and definitely pissing me off, with (to the very best of my ability) no benefit at all to yourselves. *golf clap*

    3. Re:True by definition by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      This is in reference to work. If a smart phone makes you 25% less productive, you're worth 25% less to your employer, and you should be paid 25% less.
      That's why you should care.

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    4. Re:True by definition by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      But do you think the faceless bastards at Facebook/Google/LG/AT&T/whoever infected my phone with this crap will LET me uninstall it? Hell, no! That would be too sensible and respectful of the owner's choices!

      Funny...I've never had a Facebook application on any of my iPhones I've ever owned....??

      I've never had a Facebook account either....

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    5. Re:True by definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't need 'em - they integrated that surface dweller garbage right into the stock OS. Just tell it who you are and it's zero effort to ensure your friends are aware you reached lv50 in Candy Crush, totally automated.

      This level reached on an iPhone.

  9. but....millennials!! by BigChigger · · Score: 2

    they won't work if they don't have access to social apps so they can chat and post kitty pictures!! Whatever will we do our business is doomed!!

  10. Why do they assume.... by unixisc · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... that people who have smartphones are on them all the time? I have a few, but I am only on them when I'm talking or texting, and in restaurants or waiting rooms, playing games. When I'm at work, I do my work, and the phone is just there to make or receive calls related to my work.

    Similarly, when I drive, the smartphone is on driver mode, just in case I receive calls. Other than that, I don't use the phone while driving. I do use it when I'm shopping - either check out the store's app (like Costco) or check out my shopping list or prices.

    And at home, I use it to FaceTime or WhatsApp w/ family.

    1. Re:Why do they assume.... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      ... that people who have smartphones are on them all the time? I have a few, but I am only on them when I'm talking or texting, and in restaurants or waiting rooms, playing games. When I'm at work, I do my work, and the phone is just there to make or receive calls related to my work.

      Similarly, when I drive, the smartphone is on driver mode, just in case I receive calls. Other than that, I don't use the phone while driving. I do use it when I'm shopping - either check out the store's app (like Costco) or check out my shopping list or prices.

      And at home, I use it to FaceTime or WhatsApp w/ family.

      Let us know when your boss stops looking over your shoulder.

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    2. Re:Why do they assume.... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      He's welcome to look all he wants. Actually, he's too busy, and sits right next to me, but regardless, it wouldn't matter. I do have my Moto X, which I use for any calls I have to make or receive. Or text. Aside from that, I don't play w/ it while I am at work.

    3. Re:Why do they assume.... by afxgrin · · Score: 1

      My biggest time waster are bored coworkers coming over to my desk to shoot the shit while I'm trying to work.

    4. Re:Why do they assume.... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      ... that people who have smartphones are on them all the time?

      They don't. Apparently, it isn't "all" the time, only 25% of the time that you would otherwise be working.

  11. How hard is this to do? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    I put my smartphone on silent and forget about during my work day. Mostly to conserve battery power as I use my smartphone on the express bus, reading The Wall Street Journal in the morning and an ebook in the evenings.

    1. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I spend more time killing spyware on my smartphone than using its smart features. It seems to me, its not built for me, its built for companies to spy on me and sell me stuff.

      In fact, let me just check, I killed OneDrive from Microsoft this morning, I bet it's running again..... yep.... com.microsoft.skydrive, I can 'Force Stop'. It's running again.

      POS software I never wanted, came installed with the phone and it f**ing turns on, starts Word up periodically, full mic access, full camera access, sends data to Microsoft, another couple of hundred KB today. F**ing Samsung, I am not buying your smartphones ever again. NEVER bundle crapware, especially Microsoft crapware.

    2. Re:How hard is this to do? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      POS software I never wanted, came installed with the phone and it f**ing turns on, starts Word up periodically, full mic access, full camera access, sends data to Microsoft, another couple of hundred KB today. F**ing Samsung, I am not buying your smartphones ever again. NEVER bundle crapware, especially Microsoft crapware.

      That's Android for you.

    3. Re:How hard is this to do? by kheldan · · Score: 2

      I spend more time killing spyware on my smartphone than using its smart features. It seems to me, its not built for me, its built for companies to spy on me and sell me stuff.

      Which is why I, and presumably many people, do not own one, either. They're like a swisscheese, security-wise, and I start to suspect that's on purpose, to make government and corporate exploits of it for spying and 'data collection' purposes easier. It just so happens it makes it easier for actual criminals, too. Do not want! Keep your shitty so-called 'smartphones', I'll just stick with a cheap-ass $50 throwaway dumbphone. It breaks, it gets lost or stolen, IDGAF, I'll just get another one. All it has to do is be a PHONE, it is not a LIFESTYLE. If I want internet access I'll use a real computer, not some underpowered thing with a tiny-ass screen and a grossly overpriced dataplan.

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    4. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Not Using Smartphones Can Improve Productivity By 26%, Says Study

      From the "No-Shit, Sherlock" department...

    5. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's ok though, because no one is calling or texting you anyway.

    6. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yep, I knew Android was a problem, but I thought as long as I don't install a bunch of crap apps, I would only have Google spying on me and I've pretty much banned Google from my life. For Maps I use Here.com and here's offline app (*recommended*!), for Search DuckDuckGo not Google. For email a private email server, the Google apps are not used, the Google account it forces you to connects to, its a special one for that phone. It's not perfect, but a problem I understood.

      And then I open the shiny new phone and find Samsung bundles a Microsoft bundled spyware package. *&%$*)^ never again Samsung. Are you're engineers listening? I will never buy your crap again, because your crap comes preloaded with spyware I cannot uninstall and do not want. I am a lost customer you won't see in your future sales numbers. Tell your boss up in Korea.

      I wonder if iOS is better now. I can see Cook is privacy focussed, but are the phones?

    7. Re:How hard is this to do? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      It's ok though, because no one is calling or texting you anyway.

      I get 20+ calls from recruiters per day.

    8. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I put my smart phone on silent almost all the time. I look at the phone every once in a while and if there is a text or voicemail I then read or listen to it. I may then respond. Seems to work out just fine and everyone I deal with knows what to expect when they text or call me.

    9. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I simply don't have a smartphone. I read library books while on the train to and from the office.

    10. Re: How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, put cyanogenmod in, don't install gapps if you don't need to , and stop crying

    11. Re:How hard is this to do? by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      People in my country are addicted to smartphones, particularly texting over whatsapp or your im program of choice. I do this myself but i know for a fast that most people here can't. Ban is the only way to go.

    12. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      reading The Wall Street Journal

      You keep saying as if anyone gives a damn. Do you get paid by the mention or somesuch?

    13. Re:How hard is this to do? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      reading The Wall Street Journal

      You keep saying as if anyone gives a damn. Do you get paid by the mention or somesuch?

      This is Slashdot. Of course, everyone gives a damn. You must be new around here.

    14. Re:How hard is this to do? by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      100% the same. Most of the time, I come in to work and my phone goes on the charger until I leave.

      I can tell you that when there are occasions where I need to be in heavy use of my phone, I am definitely not getting as much work done.

      I am very task oriented and not very good at multitasking so the more distractions I am subjected to, the worse my efficiency.

      Of course, this probably comes as no surprise to anyone.

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    15. Re:How hard is this to do? by internerdj · · Score: 1

      It makes the other drivers nervous when I do that on my commute, especially if it is a hardback.

    16. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I spend more time killing spyware on my smartphone than using its smart features. It seems to me, its not built for me, its built for companies to spy on me and sell me stuff.

      In fact, let me just check, I killed OneDrive from Microsoft this morning, I bet it's running again..... yep.... com.microsoft.skydrive, I can 'Force Stop'. It's running again.

      POS software I never wanted, came installed with the phone and it f**ing turns on, starts Word up periodically, full mic access, full camera access, sends data to Microsoft, another couple of hundred KB today. F**ing Samsung, I am not buying your smartphones ever again. NEVER bundle crapware, especially Microsoft crapware.

      Is your phone running Marshmallow? If yes, you should be able to disable mic/camera access even if OneDrive/Office aren't built with Marshmallow APIs. Can't turn off internet access but you should be able to restrict background data on cellular networks as well.

    17. Re:How hard is this to do? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I spend more time killing spyware on my smartphone than using its smart features. It seems to me, its not built for me, its built for companies to spy on me and sell me stuff.

      In fact, let me just check, I killed OneDrive from Microsoft this morning, I bet it's running again..... yep.... com.microsoft.skydrive, I can 'Force Stop'. It's running again.

      POS software I never wanted, came installed with the phone and it f**ing turns on, starts Word up periodically, full mic access, full camera access, sends data to Microsoft, another couple of hundred KB today. F**ing Samsung, I am not buying your smartphones ever again. NEVER bundle crapware, especially Microsoft crapware.

      What do you have - a Lumia? Android doesn't have OneDrive preinstalled - you have to go to the App Store and download it. Or does Samsung have a special deal w/ Microsoft where they preload it?

    18. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using a smartphone or reading a book (hardback or paperback) while driving a train is a sure method for jumping the track and a great way to get on the evening news. NTSB regularly reminds all us train operators of the need to remain diligent and alert.

    19. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on where you are. This is one instance where I'm glad I live in China. Picked up a Samsung Galaxy On7 Pro at a major electronics retailer. Nothing pre-installed on the phone except for the default Android apps, a Samsung store manager I never use, and a Theme Store. That's it. No carrier installed apps. Just popped in my Sim and SD cards and I was rockin'.

    20. Re:How hard is this to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a grossly misinformed troll. I bought my Android phone without pre-installed Apps. It's great. No spyware or unwanted apps. I can read news (including Slashdot) while I commute to work. Read Wikipedia anywhere, anytime to learn about anything. Watch video, play games, and enjoy over 200 full albums compressed with Ogg Vorbis q6. Throw in the camera and GPS and it's a great tool. I actually never use it for phone calls. Lifestyle? For a small minority of hipsters, the phone is just a tool for their main addiction: Social Media. For the rest of us it's an amazing portable computer, camera, media player, GPS viewer, and communications device all rolled into one. Far faster, cheaper, and more powerful than you realize.

    21. Re:How hard is this to do? by kheldan · · Score: 1

      You're a mental midget technologically-speaking, your so-called 'smartphone' is FULL of security holes, you read about more and more of them every single day, and you have no idea what sort of backdoors there might be in the core operating system, exploits that allow remote control of your phone and access to it's contents withiout you ever noticing anything is wrong, or browser hijacks from websites you visit that have been infected with malware and spyware that are completely silent, giving no indication whatsoever of their presence or function. You're utterly, completely clueless.

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  12. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still wouldn't take the deal since I want to be able to get emergency calls (yes, they are few and far between but the "pick up your kid from school - he/she is sick" and "your mom is in the hospital" calls do happen). I'm not tied to my desk - lab time, meetings, etc. so I can't get these calls without the phone. I'm sure it depends on the type of work you do and what the parameters of it are. I'm sure many people would take the deal you outlined.

  13. Another 5% if you take their hopes and dreams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And a whopping 30% more if you starve them a little, so that they fear for their lives if they act up and risk losing their jobs.

  14. There is more to life than "productivity" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe I'll focus on productivity more when my salary is based not on the time I spend at work but on what I produce. Until then, I'll happily keep getting paid for drinking coffee, pooping, and smoking.

    1. Re:There is more to life than "productivity" by slinches · · Score: 1

      That's the kind of bullshit that causes companies to implement these Orwellian surveillance and control mechanisms.

      You're right that hours on the job aren't what matter to the bottom line for the company, but in many cases it is extremely difficult or impossible to create a fair performance based compensation scheme that doesn't cause conflicts of interest. All you're doing by trying to get away with the minimum instead of just doing your job, is promoting greater levels of tracking and control to ensure that lazy bastards like you stay on task and generate some value in return for pay. If it wasn't for you and those like you, the rest of us could establish a relationship based on mutual trust with our employers that benefits all with greater flexibility and minimal restrictions.

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    2. Re:There is more to life than "productivity" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you offering to leave early, unpaid?

      Which is a pretty reasonable idea, at first blush. People who overly claim their shit is done and walk out will get the axe. In theory. In practice, probably just make everyone else's job shittier.

    3. Re:There is more to life than "productivity" by PRMan · · Score: 1

      At several companies, I've been the fastest programmer. When I leave, I always get replaced by 3-5 people. Do I get paid 3-5x as much? No.

      But the REASON I am so fast is that I actually THINK before I code. Sometimes I spend a whole day on design. Then I write really short, compact code that is easy to read and maintain and runs very fast and has few bugs.

      But do you think they appreciate the fact that "it doesn't look like I'm working" when I think? No. I'm clearly the "slacker" that needs to be talked to, even though production (# of stories closed, etc.) says otherwise.

      Same deal everywhere I work.

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    4. Re:There is more to life than "productivity" by slinches · · Score: 1

      Then you work for the wrong companies (or in the wrong industry entirely). I'm also an above average performer in my skill areas and if someone followed me around tracking everything I did, it would look like I'm slacking too, but my employer doesn't do that. They leave me alone to work or use my time as I see fit with the understanding that I get the things done that I need to and that I'll be there prepared & on time when I need to be. Unless an employee consistently logs less than 40hrs, they'll only start looking at charged vs logged time and how someone uses their computers if they aren't performing and that's mostly just in the worst cases to help identify what people can do to improve. The company can and will eventually use misuse of resources, tardiness or mis-logged time as cause to fire someone if they ignore their manager and continue to not produce at a reasonable level, but in that case they should be fired.

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  15. Depends on your job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If by 'employees' they mean office drones and burger flippers...

  16. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You know... people did all those things before cell phones right?

    Your business has a land line in every office if it requires no smart phones.

    Combined with RFID tags, you don't even have to log into the phones.

    I have friends who work for the government and they have no access to any kind of cell phones during the day and they do not appear to have stable locations while at work (swapping between lab, office, and a lab/plane).

    My point was, companies ask for 65 hours a week of your time and then require you check email and be available for on-call 24/7 via your smart phone.

    If they are going to cut your smart phone then they need to return you to normal working hours and stop calling you at 11pm.

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  17. First Post! Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    At least it would have been if I didn't have my smart phone.

  18. Entertainment Phones is more like it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The phones are not smart. They suck as phones, they suck as contact managers. The best thing they do so far is the still limited world of voice input. A handheld device you can give voice commands to rapidly would be ideal.

    They don't want to make smartphones guys. They want you're sweet sweet money. Get with the freaking program. You think Bill Gates won lots of poker games because he always picked the right draws?

    No man.. he played the people for what they were worth. That's what poker is.. human behavior and a limited set of numbers.

  19. Oooo shiny! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    It never helps when the phone is smarter than the user.

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    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  20. no phone by chr1st1anSoldier · · Score: 1

    Work for a large software company and i'm not allowed to have my phone up to a certain point for "security reasons" yet here I am posting to slashdot.

  21. Tighten those chains. by cellocgw · · Score: 2

    WHich is to say, ... or management could piss off and stop telling the huge majority of employees who don't hang on their phone all day how to live their lives.

    If you have an employee who's goofing off or is otherwise incapable of ignoring his toys (you know, like posting rants to /. while compiling), then he needs some interaction with his supervisor. Banning everyone's access to their personal phones is just another of those "Zero-tolerance Policy" CFs that will never work.

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    1. Re:Tighten those chains. by robsku · · Score: 1

      I was starting to wonder if anyone had made this point :)

      --
      In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
    2. Re:Tighten those chains. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not too long ago, my boss had to issue the edict of no laptops at meetings(we only had one or 2 per quarter), because all the under 40 kids could not stop FB and other crap and listen or participate.
      The kids all groaned, and started using their cell phones under the table.
      The boss made it clear then, no devices during the meetings.
      All the under 40 kids went to HR and complained.
      Amazing Entitlement.

    3. Re:Tighten those chains. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like the Boss had nothing interesting to say and would be better off sending an email. You can't force people to pay attention to you if they don't care what you have to say.

    4. Re:Tighten those chains. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      I use laptops in meetings to look up detail about the points being made during the lulls in actual information provision. Most meeting presentations are so packed with guff for the people who can't keep up, or just meaningless detail, that they actively repel my attention. Looking things up helps keep my attention and cement the points in my mind.

      Of course, some people interpret this as your boss does - they think I'm noodling around with social media.

    5. Re:Tighten those chains. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well they have Zero Tolerance in your schools, so it'll come to your workplace pretty soon!!

      Captcha: drones

  22. Re:Executive functions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 'I have ADD' followed by a wall of text made me laugh (no offense!) and curious too... Thanks for posting that, real interesting and speaks to the larger issue very well.

  23. Alternative Approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Instead, companies could set reasonable standards for productivity and discipline those who don't meet them. It doesn't matter if an unproductive employee is unproductive because they are on their phone, or because they spend too much time at the watercooler, or because they are just pretty bad at their jobs.

    Seems like this sort of micro-management is more likely to hurt productivity than to help it. Just let your employees do their jobs, and if they can't do their jobs replace them with someone who can. (and if you can't find someone who can do the job, reset your standards to be more reasonable.)

    1. Re:Alternative Approach by Razed+By+TV · · Score: 1

      Instead, companies could set reasonable standards for productivity and discipline those who don't meet them. It doesn't matter if an unproductive employee is unproductive because they are on their phone, or because they spend too much time at the watercooler, or because they are just pretty bad at their jobs.

      I think part of it is a (work) cultural problem.
      At one employer, working in a sort of repair/assembly atmosphere, my boss text messaged while I was working. In fact, he sent several text messages.

      Hours later he asked me, "Hey, I wanted to talk to you, didn't you get my text messages?"

      I told him that I usually don't check my messages while I'm working, and that I could do that if it was what he wanted.

      I didn't get the feeling he was testing me; I genuinely think he expected me to stop what I was doing, pick up my phone, and read my messages as I received them. I don't think he realizes that it means every time I get a text message, I have to stop what I'm doing and take out my phone to verify if it is from him. That from that point forward, every text I get is money out of my employers pocket.

  24. Re:Executive functions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have ADD and had childhood ADHD. And blah, blah, blah, tldr.

    Lemme guess - you like to hear yourself talk, too?

  25. how to get the other 74% improvement. by Idisagree · · Score: 1

    1) Remove colleagues

    2) Remove boss

    3) ...

    4) Profit????

    1. Re:how to get the other 74% improvement. by WheezyJoe · · Score: 1

      Yes! Remove: lunch breaks, bathroom breaks, fire escapes, office chatter, chairs that recline, cat photos, plants that require watering, free will, and finally, humans in general.

      Robot slave-drones = profits!

      --
      Take it easy, Charlie, I've got an Angle...
    2. Re:how to get the other 74% improvement. by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      Remove unnecessary meetings and teleconferences. Especially "quality" (sic) meetings that go on forever and are an end in themselves. I've been saddled with these stupid meetings. If anything needs to be changed to improve quality, it's immediately shot down because someone will actually need to admit that we're doing something wrong that needs to be corrected.

      I had one imbecile comment "I think it's unrealistic that we have 100% good solder joints on a processor, is it OK if we have 10% open connections"?

      I'm not kidding.

  26. 2 factor identification by perpenso · · Score: 2

    Of course, if you took away smartphones ...

    I expect management to do that right before IT rolls out 2 factor identification. Or maybe I read too much Dilbert. :-)

  27. Re:Executive functions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have ADD and had childhood ADHD. And blah, blah, blah, tldr.

    Lemme guess - you like to hear yourself talk, too?

    I have ADHD but prefer brevity. Signal/noise ratio!

  28. Re: Studies also show more productivity under 40 h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That requirement can be meet with a traditional cell that doesn't need a data plan.

  29. This reminds me of my visit to the "Fish Man" by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I once bummed a ride from Tallahassee to Tampa with a client, and he asked me if I minded if he took a detour to see the "Fish Man". I thought he meant a fish-monger, but then he turned his car off the highway an drove it through a gap in the chainlink fence. We went up a dirt track through the scrub pines to a glade with couple of trailers -- one of which had no sides and was outfitted as a living room. There were chicken wire pens scattered around the compound full of empty beer and paint cans.

    The "Fish Man" turned out to be fat, shambling, hairy mountain of a man. He was almost naked, and monochromatically red-brown: shoulder-length frizzy red-brown hair, sunburned skin with strawberry-blond fur, and red-brown denim cargo shorts. You almost couldn't tell where the shorts ended and his body began, except that there was no fur on the shorts and when he turned around he showed about ten inches of ass crack. It was about 10:30 in the morning and he was drinking his breakfast from a gallon screw-top bottle. From out in the forest came the sound of trees being cut down.

    We were here because the Fish Man was an artist my friend collected. The people cutting down trees were his apprentices. They'd moved thousands of miles from their city homes to live in a squatter's camp and study under him. My friend handed the Fish Man $250 and got a fish sculpture in return, which he later explained to me was a terrrific deal because that sculpture would have fetched $1000 in a gallery, easily.

    I'm not an art person, but even I could see the thing was a masterpiece; it was breathtaking. It wasn't exactly representational, you might even have called it a little cartoonish, but somehow he'd captured a sense of movement; it looked alive.

    The Fish Man invited watch him turn a curved blank from a hollow cypress into another one, a process that took only about ten minutes because he did it with a goddamn chainsaw.

    There's a lesson in this about powerful tools. They can't make you into anything you aren't already. If you're a genius, they allow you to express your genius faster. If you're undisciplined and lazy, they make you unproductive on a grander scale.

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    1. Re:This reminds me of my visit to the "Fish Man" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /r/thathappened

    2. Re:This reminds me of my visit to the "Fish Man" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The client's name? Albert Einstein.

    3. Re:This reminds me of my visit to the "Fish Man" by hey! · · Score: 1

      My client was an ex-special forces commando. He was working a modest-paying state job in the Department of Agriculture (he was an old time farm boy) for "vacation money" but after 9/11 he disappeared for a couple of years. Nobody knew where he was, but when he came back he had full-bird colonel's pension. Even though he now had plenty of "vacation money", he went back to his old Ag job, I think just to feel like he had something productive to do. His real passion, however, was painting wildlife. I wouldn't say his stuff was terribly original, but it was technically impressive. If I handed you one of his bird paintings and told you it was an original Audubon you'd probably believe me unless you were an art expert. This was a down-to-earth guy with a surprisingly sensitive side, and if he wanted to kill you with his bare hands you wouldn't have a prayer.

      I know this sounds like BS, but there's really nothing like the Deep South for bizarre and colorful characters. And oddballs have a way of flocking together, which probably means I should worry about knowing so many of them.

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      Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
    4. Re:This reminds me of my visit to the "Fish Man" by Gussington · · Score: 1

      They can't make you into anything you aren't already. If you're a genius, they allow you to express your genius faster. If you're undisciplined and lazy, they make you unproductive on a grander scale.

      That's a great story but I disagree. I'm useless at most things but happened to be born at the right time to get a foothold on this emerging tool called the internet, and with it the greatest tool I've ever known, Google Search. By harnessing the power of Google (ie finding stuff quickly and easily - I'm surprised how many people don't know how to construct efficient search request terms or quickly scan a webpage for useful info) I've become reasonable well paid and live a relatively easy life. Had Google not been a thing I'd probably working much harder for much less and getting all angry about stuff.
      In any other time I'd be a failure, but the tools saved me from this.

  30. Where is the "real" study? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most summaries of studies miss very important details and context. Where is the "real" write up of this study? I don't want to read some ignorant journalists interpretations of the results....

  31. Additionnally, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not using Slashdot can improve productivity by 76% !

  32. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's nice. I'd also like a personal masseuse and a vacation house at the beach that I can use for five weeks a year. Where do we sign up?

  33. I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked! by whitroth · · Score: 2

    Who could have imagined that idiots who ABSOLUTELY MUST RESPOND TO EVERYTHING, OR LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING THE INSTANT THEY DO IT, could have lower productivity....

    I wore a pager at one job, and was paged, heavily. (Except for the two months there when I wore two pagers.) I would NEVER TAKE ANOTHER JOB that wouldn't pay me time and a half, at least, to be on call.

    a) What do your friends pay you to be on call 24x7x365.25? Nothing? Then WHY do you have to respond *instantly*? (And if you're driving and doing this, I hope you run into a bridge abutment, and soon, before you kill someone else.)
    b) This is the same as bosses telling you to multitask. That kind of multitasking, along with you idiots on your mobile devices, is also known as "thrashing", and no, you *ain't* up to snuff.

                    mark "why, yes, I have a flip phone. Why? So people can *talk* to me...."

  34. How about making work more engaging? by swb · · Score: 2

    The unproductive people probably have dull, monotonous jobs with little to hold their interest. It's no wonder their phones distract them. The same people pre-smartphone would have had all other manner of distractions, from books to puzzles to hanging out at the water cooler.

    When I'm working on an engaging task, I don't notice the time pass and have zero interest in my smart phone. If I get stuck with a dull task, it's amazing how easy it is to reach for the smartphone and how I'll even read the clickbait just for the hell of it.

    If work could be made more engaging somehow, there would be less distraction.

    1. Re:How about making work more engaging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's your job? I can usually find interest in even the most mundane things. Except maybe golf.

      Make a game out of a task. Get it done faster or better than last time.

    2. Re:How about making work more engaging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If work were more engaging, it wouldn't be work. That's why they have to pay you to do it, right?

    3. Re:How about making work more engaging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >If work could be made more engaging somehow...
          This is a fine example of 'making your own luck'. Take the initiative to make it better, some how. (I don't know what you do).
      Invent SOMETHING that highlights, records, trains, shames, or in some manner elevates your regular experiences... and then show it to someone one day. (A boss preferably). The actual project may not mean jack, but that fact that you made something out of benign experiences will show them that you're up for more. And you'll get it.

      One paradox of life is that there is so much happening, we are often reacting just to keep up. Drop that, it's a distraction from being proactive. Make yourself more engaging and more engaging opportunities WILL present themselves ;)

      Either that or: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98bkdRgTW4M

  35. Agreed by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Being an old fart from the times smartphones were called Filofax, I concur.

  36. Same as it ever was by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Flashback to the 80s: Worker productivity temporarily increased when they took away copies of "PC Week" tabloids and stopped people from running "Tetris". Workers eventually found other ways to kill time.

    Flashback to the 90s: Worker productivity temporarily increased when they didn't let people access the World Wide Web and stopped people from running "Doom". Workers eventually found other ways to kill time.

    Flashback to the 00s: Worker productivity temporarily increased when they didn't let people access Napster and stopped people from running "Quake III". Workers eventually found other ways to kill time.

    1. Re:Same as it ever was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, in the 90s, I used Napster like a madman at work, but got told to use less because I was using too much bandwidth. Ah, the good old days.

  37. Humans are such inefficient robots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'd likely achieve much higher percentage gains if you stopped using the humans and hired the smartphone instead.

  38. Except when... by fropenn · · Score: 1

    ...local internet at work goes down and you can't even make a phone call, let alone answer email or get any real work done. Then you pull out the old smartphone and start working through your cell tower connection. This has happened twice now in the last week and one of the events lasted for nearly 4 hours.

    1. Re:Except when... by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      In this case, smartphones were responsible for the *INCREASE* of productivity.

  39. Productivity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not reading slashdot can improve productivity by 80% :-)

  40. Useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A biased organization commissions a study, and then publishes conclusions drawn from the findings, but no data or information about how the experiment was conducted?

    This is completely useless.

    You want to convince me? Give me numbers & descriptions of how the experiment was run, and what criteria were used.

  41. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know... people did all those things before cell phones right?

    New infrastructure replaces the old, rather than sitting alongside it. While we did used to do it a different way, society has changed.

  42. Any random change... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....in the workplace improves productivity. Changing timetrtables, layout, paint colour, etc, will all boost productivity, for a period. There's a well known experiment I'm to lazy to Google that demonstrates this. Obs I also didn't read tfa either but did they account for that?

  43. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    EXACTLY.

    Companies asked for more hours at work and a larger slice of your personal time, so you use your smart phone at work to pay your bills, keep up with your personal life, and deal with emergencies.

    Companies want to have it both ways. They can try, but we shouldn't let them.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  44. Tradesies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll happily not carry my smartphone at work in exchange for my employer not expecting me to carry it in my off hours either.

  45. I can see it now by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    The next great wave of delivered workplace wisdom to be spouted by vastly overpaid flavour-of-the-month management consultants: make all employees, without exception, hand in their cellphones as they arrive in the morning. Of course, the 'important people' in the company will be exempt.

    --
    'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
  46. dotslash by blackomegax · · Score: 1

    Removing slashdot access, OTOH, improved productivity by 1000%

  47. Publish or perish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should be published in the journal of ireproducible results.

  48. Millennial Employment Act by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 1

    It's all a part of keeping Millennials employed. For every 4 smart phones, there's enough lost productivity to hire another Millennial to sit around and monitor social media to find out how much fun they had doing something.

  49. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    things worked out just fine in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and even the 90's without cell phones. there is NO job on the planet that requires this sort of connectivity at all. a doctor/surgeon maybe, but they have pagers for that. IT dork maybe, but again there were other options available before cell phones.

    the argument that constantly gets tossed up about not having a cell phone is just bad and flawed from all angles to start with. cell phones have done very little, if anything, to improve society. they will also be going the way of the 8 track, cassette tape, cd, vhs, etc in the near future. the underlying tech will still be there and used in other devices, but the phone itself will be replaced by something else and no longer called a phone in 20-30 years.

  50. Motorolla "Pink" Razor by Kevin+by+the+Beach · · Score: 1

    Loved that phone... (still have it, not on a plan at the moment) Ran it through the wash a couple times... Still works... It would work as a tethered USB modem too!

    It's Raining by the Beach

  51. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Please stop mandating lunch break times. I don't want to spend an extra hour at work simply because it's illegal not to. It only takes me 10 minutes to eat lunch. A required 30 minutes is already annoying and I've gotten in trouble for 'going home early' when not taking that full time at a software job claiming to have flexible hours.

  52. 2FA by xenog · · Score: 1

    My productivity would be exactly zero if I could not log into the places I need for work using the 2FA token on my smartphone.

  53. I wasn't on track to graduate high school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't fail any classes, I just transferred in to the school from a different zip code and came out of that behind schedule.

    The consequence of this was that for my senior year, I was placed in a "special ed"/alternative school environment.

    The terms of the agreement were simple:
    I had a list of assignments to do. When I was done with them: I could leave early.

    There was no lecture... Just assigned reading assignments from the textbook, and some end of chapter HW questions. I also had to write a few essays.

    The point of this story?
    I did 1.5 years of highschool in 6 months...

    Next time you hear a manager complaining that 40 hour a week employees aren't accomplishing more per 40 hour unit of time: think of my story and think of the incentives for working faster when you get paid the same amount regardless of your productivity.

  54. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    Personally, I'd be fine with that however I don't see how you could do 10 minutes at places that require you to leave your desk for lunch for sanitary reasons.

    Before I retired, I preferred working as a contractor (as long as the wage was comparable after paying my own benefits).

    If I worked 5 hours, I got paid for 5 hours. If I needed to work 15 hours, I got paid for 15 hours.

    And mainly, when I walked out the door they knew I wasn't being paid and it changed their attitude.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  55. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by ewibble · · Score: 1

    That is fine, as long as work is not allowed to contact me for any reason on my phone, even informing me of an issue will mean I will start thinking about it. If I am not allowed to use company time for personal reason, the company should not be able to use my time for commercial reasons.

    Smart phones (over and above a non-smart cellphones), are mainly for entertainment purposes. Even the possibly useful features like email, and checking your bank account are time wasters, if people get a instant response they generally just write more, it is generally more efficient just call someone if you want to talk to them than email them wait for a response, then email them again ..... Also with email the vast majority is just irrelevant and the time spend reading it vastly out ways the occasional benefit. With banking on your phone do you really need up to the minute information, or will checking once a week/month from home do? Yeah it maybe that you can give your friend some cash right then, but really you could just carry a bit of spare cash for when that rare event occurs. Does counting your steps really motivate you to exercise more, or is it just one bit of extra irrelevant data, unless you are a competitive athlete.

    Its like having a TV with you everywhere, TV waste time and now you can carry that TV everywhere you go.

  56. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep: I would expect people would be both more productive and happier if work came in regular uninterrupted blocks of predictable length, safe in the knowledge of a sensible amount of leisure time that won't be encroached upon. The whole blurring of work/leisure thing tends to kill both productivity and pleasure.

  57. Measured by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the distance between participants and their smartphones ...

    No-one measured the distance between the water cooler and employees as a function of productivity, or the the newspaper, or the staff room. Do people assume a smart-phone is a productivity tool? If that was true, the boss could make the workplace BYOD and halve the IT budget.

  58. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    That's nice. I'd also like a personal masseuse and a vacation house at the beach that I can use for five weeks a year. Where do we sign up?

    You would have to sign up in Germany.

  59. Too many hrs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most normal jobs I've worked, I've been bored out of my mind most of the time.
    What do you expect from us?

    Lower the standard hours. 8 hours is TOO many.

  60. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by houghi · · Score: 1

    So when are you moving to Europe?
    Unfortunately not everywhere a) is a fact, but as we do not have cubicles, there is a bit ;ore social control of abusers. Mind you, people who are unwilling to work will find a way. Be it reading the paper, going to the bathroom more often, chatting with others at the water cooler, start smoking or whatever.
    b) We work 38 hours. That is a bit more than allowed, but extra hours are converted to 6 extra holidays and I have 35 or so per year. In the morning and in the afternoon we have a 15 minute break that is paid for. You smoke or do whatever you like. Lunch time is not paid for. The minimum is 30 minutes. We have one hour. This will depend from company to company and from department to department. In Belgium 1 hour is not an exception, in other countries they rather have 30 minutes and in some they want to have 3 hours lunchtime.
    c) will depend on the company and the function. If you are required to have a phone you get one from the company. There are several ways on how to handle this and these are just examples:
    1) You are in a team and one person gets the 'on call' phone. You will get paid for that period and if you need to do something, you will get extra
    2) You are the only person that they can call? You should be making a shitload of money that a call is not a problem.
    3) The calls are so far between that you do them. e.g. I was on a holiday and my boss called and I happened to pick up the phone. It was just to know in what directory a file was. There is no need to be a dick. I also knew that because he called while he knew I was away it was pretty important. That is 1 call in 5 years.

    If you work more that 5 hours extra per week, it is becoming pretty obvious they are taking advantage of you or you are unfit to do your job.

    Also note that there can be huge differences between the countries. Belgian working hours are stupid strict. So strict that if you want to do changes that are requested by the people, you are often not allowed to do them.

    Oh and when you come, look what you want to make netto, then recalculate that to brutto for the negotiations. Look out for bonuses as they will be taxed even higher. And join a union or not. Nobody cares. Nobody will ask. Standard is extended hospitalization insurance and meal vouchers. That is 7-8EUR per day worked you get on top of your salary. They are pretty standard and nothing special. A car will be often included in Belgium as well or 100% paid for public transport.

    Downside? Much harder to buy guns and you get paid per month, not per week.

    --
    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  61. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    The biggest creepy bit for me about smart phones is that they destroy your privacy and make everyone (work, friends, relatives) able to see your schedule. And then ask questions, hey you were off line from 1pm to 3pm today.. what were you doing?

    makes me want to respond..

    Well dave, I was goint to be fucking my SO for two solid hours so I turned the phone off. Thanks for asking.
    Well dave, I had bad stomach cramps and was on the toilet shitting my guts out for two hours. Thanks for asking.
    Well dave, I was preparing for your surprise birthday party. Thanks for asking.

    People feel they have a right to know every second of my life when I have a smart phone.
    And if I don't pick up on the second ring, they ask why I wasn't able to answer their last call.
    Even tho I never respond so I imagine everyone must do it to everyone now.

    When I was 35, two decades ago, I could still actually do whatever I wanted for 3-5 hours a day and no one had a clue and didn't ask.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  62. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Gussington · · Score: 1

    Speak for yourself. I'm productive for about 3 hours a day. I spread this over my 8 hours shift to get paid, but ultimately 3 hours would produce the same results.

  63. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go learn some history of why things are the way they are. YOU are the reason history continually repeats itself...

  64. Re:Studies also show more productivity under 40 ho by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    Oh and i'm not sure if you realize it but at some places using the restroom comes out of that "break" time. It was required because companies were horribly abusing workers in large numbers.

    I'd add the time you are using to go to the restroom to your 10 minutes.

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    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.