Granted, I do the same thing (use MiX on NT). The point was ``integrating Linux programs with a multiuser NT system'' seems highly ironic. Multiuser NT??? Why spend $200 per user when you could just use Linux workstations, and run something like WinFrame with X on one NT machine?
It just makes me ill, seeing companies selling all this Windows software to ride the GNU/Linux wave.
This announcement almost makes up for the CNN article I just ranted about (and LinuxWorld). My brother will be so happy—he likes SAP and has been telling me that ``if SAP AG ports it, then I know Linux really is serious''.
That said, we must not feel victorious, but must remain vigilant. The wolves are upon us; endless attempts to abuse GNU/Linux for commercial advantage are appearing at a crushing rate. But armed with the GPL and my C comiler, I think we can beat them back. <grin>
I need to vomit. Here are two quotes from the article that simply are causing convulsions in my gastrointestinal system: GraphOn will unveil a Linux Playpen at the show for attendees to test GraphOn's products that provide remote access to Linux applications from Windows, Java, and multiuser NT systems.
GROAN! Why would anyone want to run Linux programs on a multiuser NT system? It just makes me ILL!
The playpen will feature Go-Between, a thin-client PC X-Windows server; Go-Joe, a thin-client Java X-Windows server; and Go-Global, a thin-client PC X-Windows server designed for low-bandwidth connection over the Internet.
Haven't these guys heard of LBX? It's probably all ripped off from the xc or XFree86 code, and it probably costs $100 or more a licence. Talk about abusing Linux—selling windows Xservers. YECK.
IBM will announce its intent to port Red Hat Linux to its PowerPC chip. The company already said it will bundle the operating system with its servers.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLUE? Linux is already ported to the PowerPC. It already runs on the RS/6000!
If this is world domination, I don't want it. I'm about to run crying and screaming to my OS/2 diskettes, and perhaps take a sidetrip to the judgment La-Z-Boy of "Bob".
Browsing through/usr/src/linux, it appears Torvalds owns most of the code. A quick telephone call *should* be enough to get them to release the kernel sources. If they've released binaries, have at them—they have absolutely no copyright ``protection''.
This has nothing to do with VRML, but I do recall a window manager that had a 3D Windowspace. Windows could be rotated and moved around on three axes. It gave you lots more living-space. I saw it on what must have been a very fast computer back in '94, because it was quite responsive. It doesn't seem it would be that hard to write.
Ah well. Just an idea. Wonder what that was? (I was 12 at the time.)
The press release didn't say anything, but I'd like to see SunOS 4.*.* and lower released openly (as opposed to the current expensive licence). Then we could finally have a SunOS 4.1 that works. Just wondering.
This opening of Solaris 7 & al. will certainly assist in getting Solaris x86 (and SPARC, for that matter) binaries running on other platforms. Methinks a number of Solaris x86 binaries running on Linux would be very nice... (as a previous poster pointed out with Notes)
I keep pictures of --jon. around simply because I like his beard. The IANA has quite a nice photograph collage available. I also have some pictures of Stallman, Cox, Torvalds, etc. around so I can show people what ``we'' look like. There's simply no better way to start my day than with Stallman staring down at me (I don't like to see Postel's face to often; it invokes too much grief). Cheers, Joshua.
I just want to remind everyone that people who call themselves ``Christians'' but do not follow the teachings of Christ (i.e., don't kill people, show love to everyone, even your worst enemy, work actively to do good, &c.) ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.
On the topic of faith, I want to restate that it is just that: faith. It doesn't need to be corroborated[sp?] by observation (observation is generally wrong; determinism seems so valid, but a deeper scientific observation shows it is just one opinion of many). I believe in God because I've come to know him personally, and I want to follow his teachings. Maybe you don't. I wish you would, but I'm not going to force it on you; I want you to meed God for yourself.
But please don't turn on that broken record about ``look at the christians in the crusades, christians are all so unscientific!'' Of course I won't stand in your way of saying that...
Cheers, Joshua.
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No, there's not; grassroots religion can have the same problem. The key is people understanding the teachings of Christ and actually following them. It means being a good person.
I like reading the Bible and other ancient literature; I don't like ``youth culture'' (which is just a commercialisation of the rebellion of the 60s— you know, ``Be different&mdashDrink Pepsi.'') What I want is for each person to realise who they are in God, and to begin loving who they are, to love God, and love everyone else! Gee, I'm starting to agree with Katz (somewhat). Scary.
Cheers, Joshua. (It's so fun to have Lynx up one machine while you're hacking code on another...)
Jon, you've become better. Nicely written article; factual (for the most part); and best of all, due respect for my dear friend --jon. Postel. One factual error: /* Perhaps we'll know soon enough. Increasingly, thanks to Linux, BeOS, open source and free software, it is. */ Umm, last I checked, BeOS was not gratis, freed software, or even Opensource. It's a great OS in the same sense that OS/2 was a great OS, but it is closed. I should also point out that ``the net'' has not given rise to the hacker culture, &c. That has been with us through the ages. In recent times, the BBS culture certainly had its share of hackers. My father (among others) was a pioneering computer hacker back in the late '60s; people like Grace Hopper were the hackers of their times in the '50s. Michael Faraday was a hacker of his century; he hacked electromagnetism. I would even go so far as to say that Christ hacked the ``religious'' apostate hiearchy of his day. Hacking is good: it removes bad things and creates more good things. But it's not a new concept! The global public internet has simply made hacking easier. May the hacking continue. Cheers, Joshua.
Does anyone besides me see a certain animosity towards religion in this review? As a nerd/geek/hacker/&c. I find that my faith is completely compatible with what I do—indeed, I consider it part of my higher calling. Working on free software is a way I have found I can show my love for mankind. (I know, it sounds weird. Get over it.)
Nerds/geeks/hackers in general show a fair amount of tolerance towards different religions; I've run into athiests, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims (rare), and Christians. I personally am a Christian (but please don't let your personal bias against Christianity color your view of what I am saying). Why is it people constantly feel a need to denigrate organised religion? Yes, it has committed some abuses; that doesn't mean those of us who believe in God (or whatever) want to support that organisation.
Rather, we have learned to meet God personally rather than as a facet of some large organisation (such as church). I do not attend a traditional church, but I consider myself a strong, fundamental Christian.
Many who call themselves hackers are not. Many who call themselves ``Christians'' are not. Let us not confuse the real with the false; a Christian does not commit violent acts, and a hacker does not destroy other people's filesystems. I do not like it when the media misrepresent the hacker as a person who likes to % rm -rf/*&*. Let's not do the same towards religion.
Good to see you again! What was weird was that when I went to reply to this, it had me logged in as you... weird. Maybe it recognised our affinity from systalk. <grin> Ahh. I look forward to systalk@dhs.org—may it return to its former greatness.
One problem with satellite links: isn't the SOL of a 44,000 mile roundtrip plus the latency of the modem uplink a problem? Of course, it's better than async dial...
I wasn't disappointed because I have already accustomed myself to poor journalism from CNN. But the complete lack of mention of things like GNU, the thousands of developers who have written Linux, and the exclusive attention given to Torvalds and Young is disheartening. Is this what world domination is?
I don't want world domination. I want the world to change.
Ah, that is not to be. People want one-size-fits-all; they want to look like everyone else. No-one wants to be different (except for a few nerds like those of us on Slashdot here and there).
Richard Stallman was never even mentioned. HELLO? He wrote the most critical piece of Linux-gcc, and his organisation has written almost everything else (pick any Unix utility).
Does it bother anyone besides me how popular society thinks that Redhat and GNU/Linux are the same entity? It would be look thinking Compaq is Windows because when you get a Compaq and turn it on, it says ``Windows''.
As a user of a S.u.S.E., I find this especially bothersome as S.u.S.E. is ``prettier'' out of the box than Redhat, and would probably attract more newbie users. I don't want to start a distro war; Redhat is a great company with great employees/hackers and great products. But Redhat is not GNU/Linux and never will be!
It's also a misnomer to imply that Redhat is the primary source for Linux. Most people have either ordered CDs from Cheapbytes or Linuxmall or have downloaded it from a place like SunSITE, er, excuse me, MetaLab.
Actually, at DHS there is one flat namespace. You just get xyzzy.dhs.org and then you can make that a domain for a single IP address, a subdomain, a DynDNS domain, or even an ATHOME redirector site.
Why does everyone worship the mouse? I have found that most new users do not like it. Double clicking is difficult for many people, and people with any kind of degenerative joint disease, like arthritis, or a disease like Parkinson's, cannot use a mouse. Most mice tend to have dirty rollers which makes them difficult to point with any kind of precision.
The mouse is an invention in the same sense that Windows is an invention. Sure, it does have some nice things, but I'll take an IBM 3101 over your Windows 95 PC with a mouse anyday! (OK, so I'd probably want something better than a 3101...)
Cheers, Joshua. (Who does like his Microsoft scrollpoint mouse.)
Isn't RealPlayer Producer a bit expensive? Unless you're going to warez it, which I do not consider a satisfactory solution, you're going to have to shell out $995 for your copy of that. I think I'll stick with 8hz-mp3 9r my (legal!) copy of L3ENC and any HTTP server anyday.
I have nothing against Progressive Networks, but if their so ``progressive'', why don't they actually DO something progressive, like help fight the cause of freedom for software?
That was quick. DHS.ORG is very slow. What do you guys do--all point wget at the whole site? I'm glad to see there is so much interest. If anyone wants to volunteer, please do!
Yes, we're getting ready. There a lot of kinks to be ironed out, but this is a free service, for pete's sake! There will be free domains initially, and then DynDNS and ATHOME redirector service. (What's up with NWS's domain, by the way? Why is it ``on hold''?) I'm going to be implementing experimental DynDNS service on my PC.
One goal of us at DHS is to avoid the pitfalls into which we ran at Monolith, like abuse, buggy DynDNS clients hammering our server, a poor password reset system, and an unmanageable contact address (ml@ml.org always had at least 500 and usually 1000 unanswered messages in the queue).
That's a nice idea, but will be difficult without an extremely modular kernel. What would be interesting is the ability to swap in and out modules that are being used; i.e. upgrade to a new (for example) scsi.o or e2fs.o. Remember, a modular kernel (like Mach) is slower than a monolithic one (compare OS/2 Version 4 to Version 3; compare Windows NT to 9[58]; compare Linux to AIX). I have nothing against Mach (or Hurd), but they do compromise performance.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone found a way to create memmgr.o and then change that while the system was running. OK, so I would be impressed.
It should be noted that an assortment of other organizations, such as universities, ISPs, and the U.S. military, run most of the root servers. IMO, these organizations need to rebel and start providing the zonefiles some other way. If 25% of them do it, then what can NSI do to stop them? Remove them from the . Authoritylist? I've noticed the rootservers are already a bit slow.
Some ISPs and universities need to stand up for freedom. If the InterNIC wants to stop spamming, they should announce a policy that they will remove any spamming domains on sight. Of course, they won't do that.
Has anyone ever looked into the history of NSI? From what I can tell, they were originally formed to perform contract work for the government whe, say, a company like AT&T was working for the government but needed to be 10% minority owned to comply with affirmativeaction regulations. NSI would step in and actually do the work, since they were (technically) minority-owned. It seems like an incredible abuse of the affirmativeaction plan, which was intended to help small minority-owned businesses, not one or two millionaires.
Oh well. Entropy is always increasing, and the Internet is not excepted from that rule. Let's just hang together and do what *we* can for freedom.
Cheers, Joshua. (I do mourn the death of --jon. all the more deeply because he kept this kind of madness from going on.)
I love articles like that that just leave you with a link and nothing else. GRRR! Oh well, I went to the site and took a peek at it. Apparently ORB is a 2.2GB capacity removeable media device that costs $200. It didn't say how much the media costs, however. I want to know that.
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It just makes me ill, seeing companies selling all this Windows software to ride the GNU/Linux wave.
Cheers,
Joshua.
That said, we must not feel victorious, but must remain vigilant. The wolves are upon us; endless attempts to abuse GNU/Linux for commercial advantage are appearing at a crushing rate. But armed with the GPL and my C comiler, I think we can beat them back. <grin>
GraphOn will unveil a Linux Playpen at the show for attendees to test
GraphOn's products that provide remote access to Linux applications from
Windows, Java, and multiuser NT systems.
GROAN! Why would anyone want to run Linux programs on a multiuser NT system? It just makes me ILL!
The playpen will feature Go-Between, a thin-client PC X-Windows server;
Go-Joe, a thin-client Java X-Windows server; and Go-Global, a thin-client
PC X-Windows server designed for low-bandwidth connection over the Internet.
Haven't these guys heard of LBX? It's probably all ripped off from the xc or XFree86 code, and it probably costs $100 or more a licence. Talk about abusing Linux—selling windows Xservers. YECK.
IBM will announce its intent to port Red Hat Linux to its PowerPC chip. The
company already said it will bundle the operating system with its servers.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLUE? Linux is already ported to the PowerPC. It already runs on the RS/6000!
If this is world domination, I don't want it. I'm about to run crying and screaming to my OS/2 diskettes, and perhaps take a sidetrip to the judgment La-Z-Boy of "Bob".
No cheers,
Joshua.
Guided missiles still use this kind of navigation (along with gravity contour maps) as a backup system in case the GPS fails.
Why not use IBM's DB2 for Linux? You can either download it or have IBM send you a CD...
Browsing through /usr/src/linux, it appears Torvalds owns most of the code. A quick telephone call *should* be enough to get them to release the kernel sources. If they've released binaries, have at them—they have absolutely no copyright ``protection''.
Ah well. Just an idea. Wonder what that was? (I was 12 at the time.)
This opening of Solaris 7 & al. will certainly assist in getting Solaris x86 (and SPARC, for that matter) binaries running on other platforms. Methinks a number of Solaris x86 binaries running on Linux would be very nice... (as a previous poster pointed out with Notes)
I keep pictures of --jon. around simply because I like his beard. The IANA has quite a nice photograph collage available. I also have some pictures of Stallman, Cox, Torvalds, etc. around so I can show people what ``we'' look like. There's simply no better way to start my day than with Stallman staring down at me (I don't like to see Postel's face to often; it invokes too much grief).
Cheers,
Joshua.
On the topic of faith, I want to restate that it is just that: faith. It doesn't need to be corroborated[sp?] by observation (observation is generally wrong; determinism seems so valid, but a deeper scientific observation shows it is just one opinion of many). I believe in God because I've come to know him personally, and I want to follow his teachings. Maybe you don't. I wish you would, but I'm not going to force it on you; I want you to meed God for yourself.
But please don't turn on that broken record about ``look at the christians in the crusades, christians are all so unscientific!'' Of course I won't stand in your way of saying that...
Cheers,
Joshua.
I like reading the Bible and other ancient literature; I don't like ``youth culture'' (which is just a commercialisation of the rebellion of the 60s— you know, ``Be different&mdashDrink Pepsi.'') What I want is for each person to realise who they are in God, and to begin loving who they are, to love God, and love everyone else!
Gee, I'm starting to agree with Katz (somewhat). Scary.
Cheers,
Joshua. (It's so fun to have Lynx up one machine while you're hacking code on another...)
Jon, you've become better. Nicely written article; factual (for the most part); and best of all, due respect for my dear friend --jon. Postel.
One factual error:
/* Perhaps we'll know soon enough. Increasingly, thanks to Linux, BeOS, open source and free
software, it is. */
Umm, last I checked, BeOS was not gratis, freed software, or even Opensource. It's a great OS in the same sense that OS/2 was a great OS, but it is closed.
I should also point out that ``the net'' has not given rise to the hacker culture, &c. That has been with us through the ages. In recent times, the BBS culture certainly had its share of hackers. My father (among others) was a pioneering computer hacker back in the late '60s; people like Grace Hopper were the hackers of their times in the '50s. Michael Faraday was a hacker of his century; he hacked electromagnetism.
I would even go so far as to say that Christ hacked the ``religious'' apostate hiearchy of his day. Hacking is good: it removes bad things and creates more good things.
But it's not a new concept! The global public internet has simply made hacking easier. May the hacking continue.
Cheers,
Joshua.
Nerds/geeks/hackers in general show a fair amount of tolerance towards different religions; I've run into athiests, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims (rare), and Christians. I personally am a Christian (but please don't let your personal bias against Christianity color your view of what I am saying). Why is it people constantly feel a need to denigrate organised religion? Yes, it has committed some abuses; that doesn't mean those of us who believe in God (or whatever) want to support that organisation.
Rather, we have learned to meet God personally rather than as a facet of some large organisation (such as church). I do not attend a traditional church, but I consider myself a strong, fundamental Christian.
Many who call themselves hackers are not. Many who call themselves ``Christians'' are not. Let us not confuse the real with the false; a Christian does not commit violent acts, and a hacker does not destroy other people's filesystems. /*&*. Let's not do the same towards religion.
I do not like it when the media misrepresent the hacker as a person who likes to % rm -rf
We can all get along!
Cheers,
Joshua.
One problem with satellite links: isn't the SOL of a 44,000 mile roundtrip plus the latency of the modem uplink a problem? Of course, it's better than async dial...
I don't want world domination. I want the world to change.
Ah, that is not to be. People want one-size-fits-all; they want to look like everyone else. No-one wants to be different (except for a few nerds like those of us on Slashdot here and there).
Richard Stallman was never even mentioned. HELLO? He wrote the most critical piece of Linux-gcc, and his organisation has written almost everything else (pick any Unix utility).
Sigh,
Joshua.
As a user of a S.u.S.E., I find this especially bothersome as S.u.S.E. is ``prettier'' out of the box than Redhat, and would probably attract more newbie users. I don't want to start a distro war; Redhat is a great company with great employees/hackers and great products. But Redhat is not GNU/Linux and never will be!
It's also a misnomer to imply that Redhat is the primary source for Linux. Most people have either ordered CDs from Cheapbytes or Linuxmall or have downloaded it from a place like SunSITE, er, excuse me, MetaLab.
Cheers,
Joshua.
I'll have fries with that, O.K.?
Cheers,
Joshua.
The mouse is an invention in the same sense that Windows is an invention. Sure, it does have some nice things, but I'll take an IBM 3101 over your Windows 95 PC with a mouse anyday! (OK, so I'd probably want something better than a 3101...)
Cheers,
Joshua. (Who does like his Microsoft scrollpoint mouse.)
I have nothing against Progressive Networks, but if their so ``progressive'', why don't they actually DO something progressive, like help fight the cause of freedom for software?
That was quick. DHS.ORG is very slow. What do you guys do--all point wget at the whole site? I'm glad to see there is so much interest. If anyone wants to volunteer, please do!
One goal of us at DHS is to avoid the pitfalls into which we ran at Monolith, like abuse, buggy DynDNS clients hammering our server, a poor password reset system, and an unmanageable contact address (ml@ml.org always had at least 500 and usually 1000 unanswered messages in the queue).
Cheers,
joshua@ml.org (formerly).
I wouldn't be surprised if someone found a way to create memmgr.o and then change that while the system was running. OK, so I would be impressed.
Cheers,
Joshua. (Geez, it's late.)
Some ISPs and universities need to stand up for freedom. If the InterNIC wants to stop spamming, they should announce a policy that they will remove any spamming domains on sight. Of course, they won't do that.
Has anyone ever looked into the history of NSI? From what I can tell, they were originally formed to perform contract work for the government whe, say, a company like AT&T was working for the government but needed to be 10% minority owned to comply with affirmativeaction regulations. NSI would step in and actually do the work, since they were (technically) minority-owned. It seems like an incredible abuse of the
affirmativeaction plan, which was intended to help small minority-owned businesses, not one or two millionaires.
Oh well. Entropy is always increasing, and the Internet is not excepted from that rule. Let's just hang together and do what *we* can for freedom.
Cheers,
Joshua. (I do mourn the death of --jon. all the more deeply because he kept this kind of madness from going on.)
Cheers,
Joshua.