Java really only has tools for programmers, not psuedo-programmer artist types who typically create cool things in Flash.
It seem you've never heard of Processing. It adds a layer over Java with a few simple abstractions over images, sounds, shapes, etc... This allows artists (who are not programmers, but it's perfectly fine) to make computer graphics art relatively easily. Can be handy also for "real" programmers who want to sketch something graphic quickly.
"stealing" is the act of depriving someone of the economic value of a thing.
You're wrong, and I really don't get why you got modded insightful, but if even the US supreme court can't convince you, I won't try. But even worse, you're making the same flawed assumption that we see in reports published by the content owners. The assumption that using your software without paying the license deprived you of that money. That may be the case. But maybe the user would simply not have used your software at all if he had not the option to infringe on your license. Or maybe the user bought the license later, but would not have done so if he couldn't have tried the software first. There is no direct "1 license infringement => 1 lost sale" relation.
I think your hat is perfectly adjusted. I'm French and I make the exact same observations from my point of view. Why are the sensible people not doing anything about this ? Mostly because they are not informed. Information about subjects like copyright is not seen on TV or national newspapers. I don't know about the US but in France the big media are operated either by the government or by friends of the president. Needless to say, the way new laws about "piracy" or censorship are explained is not 100% objective. When I talk about this around me, people cannot believe it and are usually outraged. Secondly people feel not directly threatened. They believe only mafia lords and pedophiles are at risk. Thirdly all the people who realize what is happening feel helpless, alone against the "system", and wonder why nobody does anything, without doing anything themselves. Maybe we should think about it.
Fascism is an hydra whose heads must be cut once in a while...
Yes, but he wants this for the MONEY, not for the sake of saving fingers. He asks 8% of the wholesale price of the saw ! No wonder no one buys it. If he genuinely wanted to save appendages, he'd make his technology available at a minimal fee, or even freely like Volvo did when they invented 3-point the safety belt...
What joy it would be to live in a world where the slightest breach of the law would be 100% certain to be punished by the state... How safe we would be under the benevolent watch of our governments... We can only dream about it.
I think this student (why the hell is his opinion posted on/. by the way?) should study some more.
Well if you read the actual resolution, you can see that the parliament adds limits to what can be accepted in the negotiations. In particular regarding individual rights, privacy, searches, and so called "threes strikes" legislation. It does urge the commission to continue the negotiations, however.
Many small businesses rely on Paypal for their transactions because the fees of a real bank are much too high for low volumes. Lacking an alternative, they go with Paypal by obligation, not by choice. You need to think your decisions over more carefully before you decide something so drastic as a boycott.
Well it could be argued too that people who sell used games use that money to buy new games, and therefore the net impact on the economy is at worst zero, and at best positive since they create lowered prices thereby bringing more customers to the market.
Has anyone here ever found "by accident" a kiddie porn website ? I bet no, because there is no such thing. They use other channels and are very secretive about their business. A public website would be like a stand selling kiddie porn DVDs on the streets.
This law is a pretext to censor more sites in the future. Sarkozy said himself that once the mechanism is in place they will see how it can be applied to intellectual property "issues".
There is a $2000 fee to buy a unique USB Vendor ID, and the right to use the USB logo for two years, which is pretty much mandatory if you want to make a commercial product.
Yeah, because clearly lobbyists dictating their rules in favor of their own private interests is the perfect example of democracy, as is trying to impose laws to foreign countries in spite of the will of the population...
The report was written by Patrick Zelnik, Guillaume Cerutti and Jacques Toubon. Zelnik is president of Impala, a network of independent record companies
Yeah, no conflict of interest there.
Similarly, the report which led to the famous "3 strikes law" was written by Denis Olivennes, CEO of the "FNAC", the biggest French cultural products store chain. In a sensible country, people would be outraged by this. In France, almost no one cares.
No, the tax was to compensate for the "private copy exception" to copyright, that gives anyone the right to copy a copyrighted work for use in his "family circle". Not to compensate for piracy. Actually the board responsible for setting the amount of the tax was sued, successfully, because they accounted for piracy in their calculations. As a result, the tax has been greatly lower- err, I mean, fiddled with to get to the exact same amount without accounting for piracy. By the way, the board is run by a majority of representatives from the recording industries. This ensures 100% objective decisions. That's how things go in France.
The argument that they need to do things that "really, really":-) require access to the bare metal, doesn't hold anymore, because the applications they are building will anyway need to be able to run in a virtualized environment.
Why do so many admins seem to think that you don't need more tools to develop an app than to run it? You may not need that screwdriver to run your car, but you really do need it to assemble it.
Personally I think developers shouldn't have admin in general because it may force them to think about how their code runs as an unprivileged user.
Developping an app is not the same as running it. You need tools to do your work, and the developper needs full access to these tools to be efficient. What's the process if the developper needs such editor, compiler, debugger, library installed, do they have to ask for approval each time? Take your own advice : developpers and admins have different skill sets, you shouldn't assume that you know how to do their job better than they do.
If they do mess it up, they get to go in front of the boss and explain why, and then explain why they need to keep admin.
What the... Really? Is it that big of a deal to reinstall a default image and be done with it?
The reasons we object overall to people having admin is not because we are control freaks, but because experience shows that there are less problems that way
On your end only. You seem like you're making other's people work a heck of a lot harder only to make your job easier and cover your ass.
This kind of expedited trials are already borderline unconstitutional, but deemed acceptable because the consequences are only minimal (a fine). With the "HADOPI" law, you touch the liberty of speech, communication, and lots of things the European Union starts to recognize as fundamental rights. This can have a lots of consequences if your business relies on Internet for example. An expedited trial should not be considered acceptable in this case.
Wasn't this idea already rejected in the past because it would effectively modify the work of the author of the webpage, in violation of international conventions giving this right exclusively to the author ? (I believe it's the moral rights under the Geneva convention).
Why the fuck need open source software copy every proprietary software moves, how ever crappy they are ? Haven't they yet figured out that they can do better on their own ?
NO evidence of the battery, or the glass itself, being a fault has been shown in any of these cases. Though little is public information, Apple has libberously documented each suspected case for a device returned to them for examination, and it;s consistant evidence.
What answer do you expect when you ask the suspect to examine the evidence ?
I agree that there is some interpretation of the law in regard of what is considered a bundle of two independent products and what is considered a whole. The jurisprudence in this matters tends to say that software is not indispensable to a computer system, since you may provide your own, and as such it should be allowed not to buy it.
The end user does not need to know who built the power supply, or who made the case, or who licensed the software. The customer bought the product from Lenovo, not Microsoft, so refunds should come from Lenovo. It's the same for every other industry.
In this specific case Lenovo may not be bound by the EULA, but is by the EU law which limits the sale of product bundles. You can sell a bundle or product A+B, but only if products A and B are available separately. Apparently Lenovo sold laptop+software, but refused to sell the laptop alone.
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Java really only has tools for programmers, not psuedo-programmer artist types who typically create cool things in Flash.
It seem you've never heard of Processing. It adds a layer over Java with a few simple abstractions over images, sounds, shapes, etc ... This allows artists (who are not programmers, but it's perfectly fine) to make computer graphics art relatively easily. Can be handy also for "real" programmers who want to sketch something graphic quickly.
"stealing" is the act of depriving someone of the economic value of a thing.
You're wrong, and I really don't get why you got modded insightful, but if even the US supreme court can't convince you, I won't try. But even worse, you're making the same flawed assumption that we see in reports published by the content owners. The assumption that using your software without paying the license deprived you of that money. That may be the case. But maybe the user would simply not have used your software at all if he had not the option to infringe on your license. Or maybe the user bought the license later, but would not have done so if he couldn't have tried the software first. There is no direct "1 license infringement => 1 lost sale" relation.
I think your hat is perfectly adjusted. I'm French and I make the exact same observations from my point of view. Why are the sensible people not doing anything about this ? Mostly because they are not informed. Information about subjects like copyright is not seen on TV or national newspapers. I don't know about the US but in France the big media are operated either by the government or by friends of the president. Needless to say, the way new laws about "piracy" or censorship are explained is not 100% objective. When I talk about this around me, people cannot believe it and are usually outraged. Secondly people feel not directly threatened. They believe only mafia lords and pedophiles are at risk. Thirdly all the people who realize what is happening feel helpless, alone against the "system", and wonder why nobody does anything, without doing anything themselves. Maybe we should think about it.
Fascism is an hydra whose heads must be cut once in a while ...
So, they made an artificial virus that can deliver an RNA payload without triggering the immune system. I don't see what could go wrong!
The inventor WANTS his technology in every saw
Yes, but he wants this for the MONEY, not for the sake of saving fingers. He asks 8% of the wholesale price of the saw ! No wonder no one buys it. If he genuinely wanted to save appendages, he'd make his technology available at a minimal fee, or even freely like Volvo did when they invented 3-point the safety belt ...
What joy it would be to live in a world where the slightest breach of the law would be 100% certain to be punished by the state ... How safe we would be under the benevolent watch of our governments ... We can only dream about it.
I think this student (why the hell is his opinion posted on /. by the way?) should study some more.
Well if you read the actual resolution, you can see that the parliament adds limits to what can be accepted in the negotiations. In particular regarding individual rights, privacy, searches, and so called "threes strikes" legislation. It does urge the commission to continue the negotiations, however.
Many small businesses rely on Paypal for their transactions because the fees of a real bank are much too high for low volumes. Lacking an alternative, they go with Paypal by obligation, not by choice. You need to think your decisions over more carefully before you decide something so drastic as a boycott.
Well it could be argued too that people who sell used games use that money to buy new games, and therefore the net impact on the economy is at worst zero, and at best positive since they create lowered prices thereby bringing more customers to the market.
Have you seen any of his movies ? Two pages is an elaborate scenario by his standards. Remove the effects and there's nothing left.
Has anyone here ever found "by accident" a kiddie porn website ? I bet no, because there is no such thing. They use other channels and are very secretive about their business. A public website would be like a stand selling kiddie porn DVDs on the streets.
This law is a pretext to censor more sites in the future. Sarkozy said himself that once the mechanism is in place they will see how it can be applied to intellectual property "issues".
There is a $2000 fee to buy a unique USB Vendor ID, and the right to use the USB logo for two years, which is pretty much mandatory if you want to make a commercial product.
IP exports certainly wouldn't be generating revenue since other countries didn't extend the copyright and thus can copy the work for free.
Yeah, because clearly lobbyists dictating their rules in favor of their own private interests is the perfect example of democracy, as is trying to impose laws to foreign countries in spite of the will of the population ...
The report was written by Patrick Zelnik, Guillaume Cerutti and Jacques Toubon. Zelnik is president of Impala, a network of independent record companies
Yeah, no conflict of interest there.
Similarly, the report which led to the famous "3 strikes law" was written by Denis Olivennes, CEO of the "FNAC", the biggest French cultural products store chain.
In a sensible country, people would be outraged by this. In France, almost no one cares.
No, the tax was to compensate for the "private copy exception" to copyright, that gives anyone the right to copy a copyrighted work for use in his "family circle". Not to compensate for piracy. Actually the board responsible for setting the amount of the tax was sued, successfully, because they accounted for piracy in their calculations. As a result, the tax has been greatly lower- err, I mean, fiddled with to get to the exact same amount without accounting for piracy.
By the way, the board is run by a majority of representatives from the recording industries. This ensures 100% objective decisions. That's how things go in France.
The argument that they need to do things that "really, really" :-) require access to the bare metal, doesn't hold anymore, because the applications they are building will anyway need to be able to run in a virtualized environment.
Why do so many admins seem to think that you don't need more tools to develop an app than to run it? You may not need that screwdriver to run your car, but you really do need it to assemble it.
Personally I think developers shouldn't have admin in general because it may force them to think about how their code runs as an unprivileged user.
Developping an app is not the same as running it. You need tools to do your work, and the developper needs full access to these tools to be efficient. What's the process if the developper needs such editor, compiler, debugger, library installed, do they have to ask for approval each time? Take your own advice : developpers and admins have different skill sets, you shouldn't assume that you know how to do their job better than they do.
If they do mess it up, they get to go in front of the boss and explain why, and then explain why they need to keep admin.
What the ... Really? Is it that big of a deal to reinstall a default image and be done with it?
The reasons we object overall to people having admin is not because we are control freaks, but because experience shows that there are less problems that way
On your end only. You seem like you're making other's people work a heck of a lot harder only to make your job easier and cover your ass.
Really beautiful solution, and 100% justifiable. I had a little tear of joy when I read it :'-)
This kind of expedited trials are already borderline unconstitutional, but deemed acceptable because the consequences are only minimal (a fine). With the "HADOPI" law, you touch the liberty of speech, communication, and lots of things the European Union starts to recognize as fundamental rights. This can have a lots of consequences if your business relies on Internet for example. An expedited trial should not be considered acceptable in this case.
Wasn't this idea already rejected in the past because it would effectively modify the work of the author of the webpage, in violation of international conventions giving this right exclusively to the author ? (I believe it's the moral rights under the Geneva convention).
Why the fuck need open source software copy every proprietary software moves, how ever crappy they are ? Haven't they yet figured out that they can do better on their own ?
NO evidence of the battery, or the glass itself, being a fault has been shown in any of these cases. Though little is public information, Apple has libberously documented each suspected case for a device returned to them for examination, and it;s consistant evidence.
What answer do you expect when you ask the suspect to examine the evidence ?
I agree that there is some interpretation of the law in regard of what is considered a bundle of two independent products and what is considered a whole. The jurisprudence in this matters tends to say that software is not indispensable to a computer system, since you may provide your own, and as such it should be allowed not to buy it.
The end user does not need to know who built the power supply, or who made the case, or who licensed the software. The customer bought the product from Lenovo, not Microsoft, so refunds should come from Lenovo. It's the same for every other industry.
In this specific case Lenovo may not be bound by the EULA, but is by the EU law which limits the sale of product bundles. You can sell a bundle or product A+B, but only if products A and B are available separately. Apparently Lenovo sold laptop+software, but refused to sell the laptop alone.