Well, that might very well be. My point still stands that a PFC with a couple of blank CDs could waltz in and burn the stuff. That doesn't look like high security on a strict need-to-know basis to me.
Personally, I don't think the global system is that unstable. Then again, it took one shot to start WW I - combined with a system of international relations set up for escalation. I am still rather optimistic, though. The major players know exactly that they have nothing to win from large-scale conflict amongst themselves. We'll go on with constant low-scale warfare for quite a while, I guess.
If they really kill him, I heartily offer asylum to any of you guys who wants to get out of there. Well, at least to two of you who can crash on my sofa. Fridge's full of fine Bavarian beer, too, so you gotta get to be first class refugees. On a related note, they should keep it in style and make it suicide by self administered ice pick-blows. That would be the fitting precedent.
Indeed. I can't wait for that disclosure. The shitstorm at the moment will be dwarfed by that. Hope he has the sources widely distributed by now, in case something... bad... should happen.
I think most of the rhetoric is just plain old posturing. If what I hear is correct, nearly 3 million people had access to this level of classified files. It only took a PFC to waltz in and copy the stuff. Do you really think anything of this is news to any major government? With three million people with clearance, every intelligence agency worth its salt has at least one mole in there who has been reading and reporting this all along. They are just going through the moves to save face at the moment. Great cinema, but not exactly original.
You are not getting it, are you? No one is arguing against secrecy. The methods of keeping stuff secret, however, do not include censorship. But given your whining about the "political agenda" of Wikileaks and the NYT makes it abundantly clear that censorship is what you want. State-approved "free press". Double-plus good, comrade. And don't put yourself in line with people combating Stalinism. You are promoting it. You make me sick.
Well, thank you. The thing to do now is to find a way to make it work for everyone and not for the few. Obviously the orthodox models of Marxism are not doing it, but I still think that shared ownership of the means of production is the only way to go in a fully automatized society. The devil is in the details, as usual, though.
Aren't you blaming capitalism in your last paragraph? That's exactly the consequences of accumulation of capital. Pretty much orthodox Marxism, not that I disagree with that.
Well, if you automatize every menial job away, there won't me much to do for a lot of the population than sucking the owning classes' dicks and licking their boots. You want to go there?
Yeah, the fruit mixing thing works, true. I have no problems with chemicals per se - heck, I am a biochemist by trade. I just don't want tasteless, textureless industry strawberries resembling the atrocity the Netherlands used to unleash on the world under the label of "tomato". Thankfully that has improved a bit lately, though.
That's exactly the problem here - capitalism won't work when we automatize most of the jobs. We are seeing the transition into that right here, right now. The only question remaining is if the current system can fail and transform gracefully, or if it will end up in violence. I am not optimistic.
From my experience from my garden, no they don't. Might help to gas them with some ethene, which works as a ripening signal molecule in some plants. However... DO NOT WANT...
Here we go again. Freedom of press is fine as long as the government likes it. Thanks for making that clear. Stalin is proud of you. Oh, and btw - no one is keeping a cache of documents for the purpose of blackmail, but for the purpose of their own security. Which is unfortunately necessary as long as the likes of you are around. And spare me the character assassination stuff. You s
The title of section 798 is "Disclosure", however. If the retransmitting of already disclosed information is punishable under section 798, then I would be guilty for talking with a coworker of mine about some of the cables. Guess I better not travel to the US in the near future...
Why the flaming fuck should any agent of the free press care if the US government tells it "numerous times" not to publish something? Not giving a fuck about that is the very definition of free press.
Hate to say it, but the best advice is to lawyer up. IANAL, but I am working in the IP field, not in the US though. This, of course is no legal advice, but I can't see how you breach their copyright. On the trademark front, though, you might be close to violating theirs - your name is close to the original and strongly alludes to it. With strong trademarks like "Pac-Man", this might be enough to infringe. To get that sorted, however, you will really need a lawyer - the playing field is just to uneven between you and Namco otherwise. Again, IANAL, especially not yours, and this is no legal advice:P
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Well, that might very well be. My point still stands that a PFC with a couple of blank CDs could waltz in and burn the stuff. That doesn't look like high security on a strict need-to-know basis to me.
Word. I'll reserve one of those sofa-asylum spots for you, if things get too bad over there. And some beer ;)
Personally, I don't think the global system is that unstable. Then again, it took one shot to start WW I - combined with a system of international relations set up for escalation. I am still rather optimistic, though. The major players know exactly that they have nothing to win from large-scale conflict amongst themselves. We'll go on with constant low-scale warfare for quite a while, I guess.
If they really kill him, I heartily offer asylum to any of you guys who wants to get out of there. Well, at least to two of you who can crash on my sofa. Fridge's full of fine Bavarian beer, too, so you gotta get to be first class refugees. On a related note, they should keep it in style and make it suicide by self administered ice pick-blows. That would be the fitting precedent.
"Who knew that it'd be governments vs. the people?"
Nixon?
Goebbels, to be honest.
You'll get that one as soon as Wikileaks starts to release the announced bank documents. And that's gonna take it to a whole new level.
The fact that the US has as much on them, if not more, as they have on the US. Balance of power, mutually assured disclosure, if you excuse the pun.
Indeed. I can't wait for that disclosure. The shitstorm at the moment will be dwarfed by that. Hope he has the sources widely distributed by now, in case something... bad... should happen.
I think most of the rhetoric is just plain old posturing. If what I hear is correct, nearly 3 million people had access to this level of classified files. It only took a PFC to waltz in and copy the stuff. Do you really think anything of this is news to any major government? With three million people with clearance, every intelligence agency worth its salt has at least one mole in there who has been reading and reporting this all along. They are just going through the moves to save face at the moment. Great cinema, but not exactly original.
True, they might get rounded up by the CIA, who is usually in the business of propping up totalitarian regimes all over the place.
A sign reading "You seeing my mirrors is necessary but not sufficient for me to see you" would confuse people even further, though.
You are not getting it, are you? No one is arguing against secrecy. The methods of keeping stuff secret, however, do not include censorship. But given your whining about the "political agenda" of Wikileaks and the NYT makes it abundantly clear that censorship is what you want. State-approved "free press". Double-plus good, comrade. And don't put yourself in line with people combating Stalinism. You are promoting it. You make me sick.
Well, thank you. The thing to do now is to find a way to make it work for everyone and not for the few. Obviously the orthodox models of Marxism are not doing it, but I still think that shared ownership of the means of production is the only way to go in a fully automatized society. The devil is in the details, as usual, though.
Aren't you blaming capitalism in your last paragraph? That's exactly the consequences of accumulation of capital. Pretty much orthodox Marxism, not that I disagree with that.
Well, if you automatize every menial job away, there won't me much to do for a lot of the population than sucking the owning classes' dicks and licking their boots. You want to go there?
Yeah, the fruit mixing thing works, true. I have no problems with chemicals per se - heck, I am a biochemist by trade. I just don't want tasteless, textureless industry strawberries resembling the atrocity the Netherlands used to unleash on the world under the label of "tomato". Thankfully that has improved a bit lately, though.
His last posts have been a bit weak, though. I still like it - good place to go if you want to read a good amusing and largely fact-based rant.
Says "AllWorkAndNoPlay"... ;) :D
Sorry, could not resist that one
Only as long as we allow the constant accumulation of wealth in the hands of the few. It does not necessarily have to be that way.
That's exactly the problem here - capitalism won't work when we automatize most of the jobs. We are seeing the transition into that right here, right now. The only question remaining is if the current system can fail and transform gracefully, or if it will end up in violence. I am not optimistic.
From my experience from my garden, no they don't. Might help to gas them with some ethene, which works as a ripening signal molecule in some plants. However... DO NOT WANT...
Here we go again. Freedom of press is fine as long as the government likes it. Thanks for making that clear. Stalin is proud of you. Oh, and btw - no one is keeping a cache of documents for the purpose of blackmail, but for the purpose of their own security. Which is unfortunately necessary as long as the likes of you are around. And spare me the character assassination stuff. You s
The title of section 798 is "Disclosure", however. If the retransmitting of already disclosed information is punishable under section 798, then I would be guilty for talking with a coworker of mine about some of the cables. Guess I better not travel to the US in the near future...
Why the flaming fuck should any agent of the free press care if the US government tells it "numerous times" not to publish something? Not giving a fuck about that is the very definition of free press.
Hate to say it, but the best advice is to lawyer up. IANAL, but I am working in the IP field, not in the US though. This, of course is no legal advice, but I can't see how you breach their copyright. On the trademark front, though, you might be close to violating theirs - your name is close to the original and strongly alludes to it. With strong trademarks like "Pac-Man", this might be enough to infringe. To get that sorted, however, you will really need a lawyer - the playing field is just to uneven between you and Namco otherwise. Again, IANAL, especially not yours, and this is no legal advice :P