Mozilla is one example: They are primarily a Windows developer, and seem to be increasingly hands-off when it comes to "Linux". The Windows version has a proper installer, for instance, but the last I checked the "Linux" version did not even have an RPM... you have to untar it and carefully replace it in/usr/lib by hand (making sure any global.js or plugins from the old one are properly retained).
Applications users and developers are drawn to stable platforms, whereas "Linux" has a fairly standard kernel but no platform from the POV of a user or app developer. A modern platform includes:
* A consistent GUI. Inconsistent interface == No one wants to do tech support for it under contract. That doesn't just mean choosing Gnome or KDE; even more important is that you have the same configuration applets for the most common services (like display, file sharing, etc.).
* ONE point of reference for installing peripherals and software (a user needs to be able to walk into a store and ask for something compatible with "Linux" or some standard moniker, not a piecemeal laundry list of sysadmin-centric standards like "hotplug", "X11 Direct Render", "CUPS v5.67" and "libc6 v123.456").
* A default IDE (Xcode, Visual Studio) that is approachable and has comprehensive documentation (ADC, MSDN) and a standard framework (Cocoa,.NET). What you get with "Linux" is chaos that repels most creative types; only rather odd people can cozy-up to a system where a budding programmer experimenting with graphics, sound or databases cannot expect his/her programs to simply run on a friends' "Linux" system.
There are things the "Linux" community could do to counteract these shortcomings, like collaborate on a comprehensive Hardware Compatability List site so people know what they can safely buy. But the most knowledgable actors in this area like Redhat and Novell do not seem interested, seeming to prefer expanding their role of arbitrating what you can do with third-party programs and when you're allowed to upgrade them.
Here is a story with a little more background on Earth Simulator's modeling prowess. Near the end, it states that it can predict and track typhoons with very high accuracy:
...COMmon Algorithmic Language, also had this pre-compile bytecode stage and was jaw-dropping, blazing fast.
I think what happened at some point was that the parent, Pascal, came back in the form of TurboPascal and Delphi and killed off its more advanced progeny before they could reach critical popularity.
RedHat (as with all distros) are very clear about what they do and do not support; they'll support unmodified binaries distributed by themselves on the (say) RHEL4 CDs;
I understand, but that is too much software to be handled as a single product IMO.
The recommended version for mail and database servers (Enterprise Server) does indeed have packages for Postfix (our preferred mail app) and MySQL available, but none of the Postfix packages have MySQL support enabled (Postfix has good MySQL support, including DB connection caching through a proxy interface). This effectively meant that none of the dozens of excellent mail administration tools out there would be available to us...
That is why we should not expect our OS vendor to supply, configure and debug the lion's share of 3rd-party applications! Unfortunately, the OS vendor all but insists it has to work this way (and that goes for Debian and SUSE too).
It amounts to software-repository disease, where you have systems-oriented OS vendors who don't grok applications inserting themselves between the users and the authors.
This difficulty all boils down to not having an OS with clearly-defined boundaries. If "Linux" distros had this, then we wouldn't be so beholden to OS-vendor mishandling of applications... we could simply download and install directly from ISVs and have the [b]authors[/b] answer for any mistakes in how they distribute their programs.
No, Red Hat seems more concerned with shoehornng everybody into their distro. So your point is well-taken.
After all, who would WANT to support an "operating system" that may contain a near-infinite number of pieces depending on who you ask?
This is a nasty Linux problem, not just a Red Hat issue: Lacking a clear and working definition of where the OS ends and where the 3rd-party stuff begins makes "Linux" much less supportable as a product.
What ever happened to the Internet Protocol? Isn't that precise enough?
Isn't it an ISP's job to seel the Internet Protocol as a service-- and isn't distorting IP traffic for the sake of higher-level protocols false advertising?
And since when was IP designed to let carriers bill IP users that they aren't physically connected to??? Trying to bill in this way seems expressly anti-Internet to me.
If these telecoms want to sell something that isn't The Internet, then they need to stop pretending they're Internet providers. Nor should the government allow them to pull a bait-and-switch on the public.
...SoftMaker's Dr. Martin Sommer states that an ODF plugin for MS Office would hinder acceptance of alternative office suites. Then all of a sudden, MS is throwing in their support for an independant project that had started a few weeks earlier.
If you want to get those extra programs without a subscription, just add the appropriate repositories to sources.list. The Xandros Networks GUI was even designed to help you do this so you don't have to edit the file manually.
The difference is: the programs available under subscription are supported. They could have included those programs in the Standard Edition, but then they'd lose money because support costs would have gone up.
From what I've heard, Xandros has been profitable the past couple years. They just released Version 4, Home Edition last week and a server product a few months before that.
Corel had not only a Linux distro, but also their WordPerfect Office and Photopaint Linux apps as well. These apps are not sold or supported by Xandros.
"FIREHOSE gives you a basic data transfer over multiple network devices supporting TCP/IP layers. Stripe multiple 100Mbit, Gigabit, 10 Gigabit, or firewire to give one humungous pipe for firehosing your gigabytes and gigabytes of data.
"Unlike RAID striping, FIREHOSE striping load balances the network devices so every ounce of bandwidth is utilized. Combine a 400Mbit firewire eth device with a 100Mbit eth device to get 500Mbits of power. Combine 10 100Mbit ethernet ports for a gigabit pipe. The number of devices which can be striped is limited only by imagination and budget."
The librarian obviously didn't know you personally. So why did you expect them to hand over information about your wife as if you were living in Mayberry?
Your points are well-taken, especially the concise definition "corporate government, communicating with the people only through violence and propaganda: fascist."
However, I may be overly stuck on the early European concept, but I'd still expect some visible manifestation (in the form of propaganda) of national romanticism casting the populace as exceptional 'supermen' or sorts. U.S.ers have this in the current global version of manifest destiny. It is anti-humanism which I thought was an essential ingredient of fascism.
I think China has acquired the 'capital' incentives of fascism, but doesn't qualify in other areas.
It is a country trying to move away from violence at many levels of its society: There is no coordinated fascist agitprop campaign against communists or unions, nor any particular affinity for recruiting violent gangs. Women are still a part of the governing and business cultures, and homosexuality has been decriminalized. And there is no large movement toward incarceration (as there is in the United States).
China could be heading toward incipient fascism, but my money is on them heading in a better direction. The big questions are whether they can keep seperatists from fragmenting the country, and whether democracy will play a role in their future.
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Thats what it sounds like to me.
Also sounds like a return to the old Bell system.
Mozilla is one example: They are primarily a Windows developer, and seem to be increasingly hands-off when it comes to "Linux". The Windows version has a proper installer, for instance, but the last I checked the "Linux" version did not even have an RPM... you have to untar it and carefully replace it in /usr/lib by hand (making sure any global .js or plugins from the old one are properly retained).
.NET). What you get with "Linux" is chaos that repels most creative types; only rather odd people can cozy-up to a system where a budding programmer experimenting with graphics, sound or databases cannot expect his/her programs to simply run on a friends' "Linux" system.
Applications users and developers are drawn to stable platforms, whereas "Linux" has a fairly standard kernel but no platform from the POV of a user or app developer. A modern platform includes:
* A consistent GUI. Inconsistent interface == No one wants to do tech support for it under contract. That doesn't just mean choosing Gnome or KDE; even more important is that you have the same configuration applets for the most common services (like display, file sharing, etc.).
* ONE point of reference for installing peripherals and software (a user needs to be able to walk into a store and ask for something compatible with "Linux" or some standard moniker, not a piecemeal laundry list of sysadmin-centric standards like "hotplug", "X11 Direct Render", "CUPS v5.67" and "libc6 v123.456").
* A default IDE (Xcode, Visual Studio) that is approachable and has comprehensive documentation (ADC, MSDN) and a standard framework (Cocoa,
There are things the "Linux" community could do to counteract these shortcomings, like collaborate on a comprehensive Hardware Compatability List site so people know what they can safely buy. But the most knowledgable actors in this area like Redhat and Novell do not seem interested, seeming to prefer expanding their role of arbitrating what you can do with third-party programs and when you're allowed to upgrade them.
...for patent abusers.
"Ha-ha!"
Here is a story with a little more background on Earth Simulator's modeling prowess. Near the end, it states that it can predict and track typhoons with very high accuracy:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,
...COMmon Algorithmic Language, also had this pre-compile bytecode stage and was jaw-dropping, blazing fast.
I think what happened at some point was that the parent, Pascal, came back in the form of TurboPascal and Delphi and killed off its more advanced progeny before they could reach critical popularity.
At about 5 min from the forward-looking cam you can actually begin to make out the ascent-exhaust trail, sticking up vertically from the horizon!
I understand, but that is too much software to be handled as a single product IMO.
That is why we should not expect our OS vendor to supply, configure and debug the lion's share of 3rd-party applications! Unfortunately, the OS vendor all but insists it has to work this way (and that goes for Debian and SUSE too).
It amounts to software-repository disease, where you have systems-oriented OS vendors who don't grok applications inserting themselves between the users and the authors.
This difficulty all boils down to not having an OS with clearly-defined boundaries. If "Linux" distros had this, then we wouldn't be so beholden to OS-vendor mishandling of applications... we could simply download and install directly from ISVs and have the [b]authors[/b] answer for any mistakes in how they distribute their programs.
No, Red Hat seems more concerned with shoehornng everybody into their distro. So your point is well-taken.
After all, who would WANT to support an "operating system" that may contain a near-infinite number of pieces depending on who you ask?
This is a nasty Linux problem, not just a Red Hat issue: Lacking a clear and working definition of where the OS ends and where the 3rd-party stuff begins makes "Linux" much less supportable as a product.
What ever happened to the Internet Protocol? Isn't that precise enough?
Isn't it an ISP's job to seel the Internet Protocol as a service-- and isn't distorting IP traffic for the sake of higher-level protocols false advertising?
And since when was IP designed to let carriers bill IP users that they aren't physically connected to??? Trying to bill in this way seems expressly anti-Internet to me.
If these telecoms want to sell something that isn't The Internet, then they need to stop pretending they're Internet providers. Nor should the government allow them to pull a bait-and-switch on the public.
Giving stuff away at below cost to kill the competition's business?
...SoftMaker's Dr. Martin Sommer states that an ODF plugin for MS Office would hinder acceptance of alternative office suites. Then all of a sudden, MS is throwing in their support for an independant project that had started a few weeks earlier.
If you want to get those extra programs without a subscription, just add the appropriate repositories to sources.list. The Xandros Networks GUI was even designed to help you do this so you don't have to edit the file manually.
The difference is: the programs available under subscription are supported. They could have included those programs in the Standard Edition, but then they'd lose money because support costs would have gone up.
IMO you really have no grounds for complaining.
oops, slahsdot removed the arrow in the parent's title...
The Corel Linux product was sold to Xandros Inc and became Xandros Linux.
From what I've heard, Xandros has been profitable the past couple years. They just released Version 4, Home Edition last week and a server product a few months before that.
Corel had not only a Linux distro, but also their WordPerfect Office and Photopaint Linux apps as well. These apps are not sold or supported by Xandros.
"FIREHOSE gives you a basic data transfer over multiple network devices supporting TCP/IP layers. Stripe multiple 100Mbit, Gigabit, 10 Gigabit, or firewire to give one humungous pipe for firehosing your gigabytes and gigabytes of data.
"Unlike RAID striping, FIREHOSE striping load balances the network devices so every ounce of bandwidth is utilized. Combine a 400Mbit firewire eth device with a 100Mbit eth device to get 500Mbits of power. Combine 10 100Mbit ethernet ports for a gigabit pipe. The number of devices which can be striped is limited only by imagination and budget."
http://heroinewarrior.com/firehose.php3
...is that you??
If you are still open to running a DC project, then Climateprediction.net makes a good candidate.
"Today, Seti@Home is to distributed computing what AARP is to social-security reform."
Well we know what his position is on social-security.
The librarian obviously didn't know you personally. So why did you expect them to hand over information about your wife as if you were living in Mayberry?
If you want simplicity, I say we need Aero for Windows 3.1! Or even better... Aero DOS! Now that's simplicity for you!
You could simplify the name to "Window". All of the prettiness of Aero, with none of the extra pains... er, panes.
OTOH, why would SCO even do this? Any belief that it will give them some cash flow or some other position that benefits them is irrational.
Perhaps because more lawsuits allows Daryl to shovel more legals fees over to his brother. Like a money-laundering scheme.
Corel Linux seems to be doing OK, especially with the likes of HP pushing their product these days.
Your points are well-taken, especially the concise definition "corporate government, communicating with the people only through violence and propaganda: fascist."
However, I may be overly stuck on the early European concept, but I'd still expect some visible manifestation (in the form of propaganda) of national romanticism casting the populace as exceptional 'supermen' or sorts. U.S.ers have this in the current global version of manifest destiny. It is anti-humanism which I thought was an essential ingredient of fascism.
I think China has acquired the 'capital' incentives of fascism, but doesn't qualify in other areas.
It is a country trying to move away from violence at many levels of its society: There is no coordinated fascist agitprop campaign against communists or unions, nor any particular affinity for recruiting violent gangs. Women are still a part of the governing and business cultures, and homosexuality has been decriminalized. And there is no large movement toward incarceration (as there is in the United States).
China could be heading toward incipient fascism, but my money is on them heading in a better direction. The big questions are whether they can keep seperatists from fragmenting the country, and whether democracy will play a role in their future.