The brightest American student who graduate with a bachelor's in our university will either: 1.) land a job in the industry shortly after graduation or 2.) go somewhere else for grad school. Our engineering school does not even make in to the top 50 of the U.S. News & World Report.
I bet many of those grad student in our university applied to multiple places, and many of them get rejected before they chose to come here. Most of them are Master's students, or PhD students who just want to get Master's and drop out, in hope of finding an employer here that are willing to sponsor them for green card, at least most of them here admitted so. Thus, you can say, our university has attracted the bottom stuff.
Domestic undergrads, however, are very different. (International undergrads, those with F-1,F-2 visas, are rare.) Our tuition is dirt cheap, and it is in close proximity to downtown of a major city. I have seen freshman decided to come here even they have perfect ACT / SAT scores because of cost and geographical locations, not to mention many commute from their parent's house, thus saving housing expenses.
Also, being bright does not mean you possess the skills needed to run a hybrid IT support / Learning Sciences research lab. Good interpersonal communication is also the key here. That is where most domestic undergrads excel.
I can tell you I met a PhD student in Electrical Engineering from China that does not know the Ohm's law, let alone how to read the specs on the power supply unit, or attempted to force-insert a PCI-E display card into an AGP slot, damaging the card in the process, and that is after working 2 years in the lab with undergrads who have no trouble assemble the part together.
As far as the cost of hiring is concerned, if you hire a full time staff, you also need to pay into the pension system and health insurance along with the salary. Hire an international grad student does not have these kind of burden, but they are very hard to train as they lack communication and they think they know everything. Undergrads are, however, easy to train, and for those who apply to our lab, they already show some degree of enthusiasm already about our research, unlike those international grads who just want to get in to get the check + tuition waiver. (Undergrads paid by the hour, half the rate of grad students, and do NOT get tuition waivers.)
I did not say ban ALL foreigners. If they come here pursuing PhD and have fellowships/RAships/TAships they are very welcome. We should even give them green cards when they graduate.
If they don't have these sort of funding they should not have been admitted to the first place, unless they setup a deposit account with the university and put in FOUR YEARS of tuition to the account (not just the first year).
Leave the IT work / customer support to domestic undergrads and full timers. Foreign presence in these area drag down our quality of infrastructure. There is a reason why Apple is the biggest company in the world in terms of market capitalization.
Here in our university, in many departments, when they hire IT staff, they don't hire full time staff, instead they hire international grad students which is much cheaper ( about $1,600 a month , plus a tuition waiver, for 20 hours a week, and you get to call yourself a research assistant). These position especially attracts engineering, CS and business students from either India or China who otherwise cannot get a research/teaching assistantship from their home department because they sucks.
These people get in with fraudulent resumes that list MCSE, A+ certification etc. and good programming skills, and when they fix PCs of faculty members, all they know how to use is doublemyspeed.com and mycleanPC.com and call it a day. Then they get back to their workstation to play WoW or voice-chatting with their friends either in Hindi or Mandarin.
The office where I worked (in the university medical center) have unfortunately picked up one of these TFK's (Trust Fund Kid) from China, his work slows everyone down. Finally we have a golden opportunity to fire this asshole due to a budget cut caused by someone else's far more superior (originally an undergrad student worker) converting to full time.
Seriously, domestic undergrads works far more efficient and show more enthusiasm compare to these international grad who just want to get a degree and pick up a white chick + green card along the way,
Consider these sites can close player's account at any time, without an explanation. Back in 2006 when UIGEA weren't enacted yet, some of my friends lost tens of thousands of dollars from account being frozen due to "management decision", with no chance of appeal.
Now we finally see some possibility to regulate the industry. But before full legalization can happen, there are previous scores that need to be settle first.
Yes. Companies have to change strategies. Look at RIMM. Even though they are a Canadian company, they are still vulnerable to those liability by listing their stock in the US.
and then you always have the "straddle" strategy for those companies who choose to report their quarterly earnings the day before options expiration. For example, RIMM, GOOG.
Your comment reminds me of a lazy imbecile international student which reflects poorly on the Chinese race (another reason why we need to severely limit F-1/F-2 visas in general, but that is off the scope of this comment)
He is funny enough to mail a piece of letter, large envelope weighted no more than 2 ounces, and he show me the receipt, complained how expensive that is.... it was UPS 3-day and cost like $15.
I physically show him that I can get the same kind of service from the Postal Service for $3.85, signature required. (If you need return receipt, $2.30 extra)
So, USPS is indeed a value option.
As far as guaranteed service, if you use USPS Express mail, the delivery is guaranteed on or before the indicated date (determined at the post office, usually next day anywhere within the U.S. lower 48 states).
Time to move away from costly private alternative and use cheaper public or non-proft service. Privatization will damage economic recovery and DOOM this country.
Football Superstars did that nicely for microtransactions, you can buy XP directly, going from level 1 to level 100 cost may be a little bit less than $300.
"and WRT to who references to who owns stocks, is an heir and such"
An increasing amount of college students, myself included, like to trade stocks on a daily basis. We are no where near a "trust-fund-kid" status. Let's not discriminate each other heh.
There is a reason why government / universities / non-profit org IT is lower paid.
They come with stable jobs.
And if you get to have accumulated $100K+ in federal student loans because you get the masters degree (or any amount), you get to have them discharged after working in the above organization (anything non-private) for 10 years.
Don't be suprised. I have seen PhD students in EE that does not know Ohms law. Chances are in both cases, we are encountering an international student. Make me wonder where they bought their bachelors from.
The GRE exam uses software to grade the essay portion for quite a while, along with a human grader. If these two scores different by a point or more, then it is forwarded to another human grader and the final score will be the average of the three entities.
That cuts the cost of running the exam, considering the cost of incurring an extra human grader.
It will soon pop up everywhere at university level, when the budget cuts are everywhere.
Republican loves wall street and hates main street. they love you when you doing well but as soon as you are slightly under the weather they thrown you under the bus.
Yeah go ahead and cut food stamps/SS/Medicare/ whatever. Go to your local gun shop and load yourself up. Then when civil war comes, show them who is the boss.
Free food is a human right! Free clean water is a human right! Free health care is a human right! Free housing in crime-free neighborhood is a human right! Free college education is a human right!
All that can be realized if the president is tough enough to produce that $1 quadrillion platinum coin and use the proceeds to pay off the national debt, pay off all debts of all municipality (state + local), fully fund all pensions, pay off all mortgages of every citizens (renters will get extra tax credit), pay off all credit card debt, forgive all student loans debt, and the gov't will still have at least $700 trillion left over.
Who needs credit (and the credit rating) when you can get balanced budget every time with the "Seigniorage Hack"?
Before you cry "inflation", noted that unlike other 3rd world countries who have done it, we can produce food, natural gas, oil and other natural resources. If that is not enough, our almighty military can annex other countries to get the natural resource we need. Then we don't need to import anymore, we just annex it.
Wow I don't know what country you are in, that has sysadmin playing WoW. Here in the U.S. we have to sit in a 90 degree server room because the company have no $ to fix the A/C, and we are forced to use our student loan money to play in the Wall Street Casino in normal business hours because otherwise we have no $ to pay for basic food such as ramen.
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The brightest American student who graduate with a bachelor's in our university will either: 1.) land a job in the industry shortly after graduation or 2.) go somewhere else for grad school. Our engineering school does not even make in to the top 50 of the U.S. News & World Report.
I bet many of those grad student in our university applied to multiple places, and many of them get rejected before they chose to come here. Most of them are Master's students, or PhD students who just want to get Master's and drop out, in hope of finding an employer here that are willing to sponsor them for green card, at least most of them here admitted so. Thus, you can say, our university has attracted the bottom stuff.
Domestic undergrads, however, are very different. (International undergrads, those with F-1,F-2 visas, are rare.) Our tuition is dirt cheap, and it is in close proximity to downtown of a major city. I have seen freshman decided to come here even they have perfect ACT / SAT scores because of cost and geographical locations, not to mention many commute from their parent's house, thus saving housing expenses.
Also, being bright does not mean you possess the skills needed to run a hybrid IT support / Learning Sciences research lab. Good interpersonal communication is also the key here. That is where most domestic undergrads excel.
I can tell you I met a PhD student in Electrical Engineering from China that does not know the Ohm's law, let alone how to read the specs on the power supply unit, or attempted to force-insert a PCI-E display card into an AGP slot, damaging the card in the process, and that is after working 2 years in the lab with undergrads who have no trouble assemble the part together.
As far as the cost of hiring is concerned, if you hire a full time staff, you also need to pay into the pension system and health insurance along with the salary. Hire an international grad student does not have these kind of burden, but they are very hard to train as they lack communication and they think they know everything. Undergrads are, however, easy to train, and for those who apply to our lab, they already show some degree of enthusiasm already about our research, unlike those international grads who just want to get in to get the check + tuition waiver. (Undergrads paid by the hour, half the rate of grad students, and do NOT get tuition waivers.)
I did not say ban ALL foreigners. If they come here pursuing PhD and have fellowships/RAships/TAships they are very welcome. We should even give them green cards when they graduate.
If they don't have these sort of funding they should not have been admitted to the first place, unless they setup a deposit account with the university and put in FOUR YEARS of tuition to the account (not just the first year).
Leave the IT work / customer support to domestic undergrads and full timers. Foreign presence in these area drag down our quality of infrastructure. There is a reason why Apple is the biggest company in the world in terms of market capitalization.
Here in our university, in many departments, when they hire IT staff, they don't hire full time staff, instead they hire international grad students which is much cheaper ( about $1,600 a month , plus a tuition waiver, for 20 hours a week, and you get to call yourself a research assistant). These position especially attracts engineering, CS and business students from either India or China who otherwise cannot get a research/teaching assistantship from their home department because they sucks.
These people get in with fraudulent resumes that list MCSE, A+ certification etc. and good programming skills, and when they fix PCs of faculty members, all they know how to use is doublemyspeed.com and mycleanPC.com and call it a day. Then they get back to their workstation to play WoW or voice-chatting with their friends either in Hindi or Mandarin.
The office where I worked (in the university medical center) have unfortunately picked up one of these TFK's (Trust Fund Kid) from China, his work slows everyone down. Finally we have a golden opportunity to fire this asshole due to a budget cut caused by someone else's far more superior (originally an undergrad student worker) converting to full time.
Seriously, domestic undergrads works far more efficient and show more enthusiasm compare to these international grad who just want to get a degree and pick up a white chick + green card along the way,
"i.e. they receive a good share of tax money from your local gov."
While here in Illinois our state government is DELINQUENT in paying its share to the University of Illinois system.
Consider these sites can close player's account at any time, without an explanation. Back in 2006 when UIGEA weren't enacted yet, some of my friends lost tens of thousands of dollars from account being frozen due to "management decision", with no chance of appeal.
Now we finally see some possibility to regulate the industry. But before full legalization can happen, there are previous scores that need to be settle first.
Yes. Companies have to change strategies. Look at RIMM. Even though they are a Canadian company, they are still vulnerable to those liability by listing their stock in the US.
and then you always have the "straddle" strategy for those companies who choose to report their quarterly earnings the day before options expiration. For example, RIMM, GOOG.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817
or else he will end up like JFK.
it will be hard, you have to wait at least 3 days. Buying their put options is a much better bet.
Your comment reminds me of a lazy imbecile international student which reflects poorly on the Chinese race (another reason why we need to severely limit F-1/F-2 visas in general, but that is off the scope of this comment)
He is funny enough to mail a piece of letter, large envelope weighted no more than 2 ounces, and he show me the receipt, complained how expensive that is.... it was UPS 3-day and cost like $15.
I physically show him that I can get the same kind of service from the Postal Service for $3.85, signature required. (If you need return receipt, $2.30 extra)
So, USPS is indeed a value option.
As far as guaranteed service, if you use USPS Express mail, the delivery is guaranteed on or before the indicated date (determined at the post office, usually next day anywhere within the U.S. lower 48 states).
Time to move away from costly private alternative and use cheaper public or non-proft service. Privatization will damage economic recovery and DOOM this country.
learning their native language is critical if you are considering picking up any of the girls.
because nobody wants to spend anything when the economy is in trouble.
Football Superstars did that nicely for microtransactions, you can buy XP directly, going from level 1 to level 100 cost may be a little bit less than $300.
"and WRT to who references to who owns stocks, is an heir and such"
An increasing amount of college students, myself included, like to trade stocks on a daily basis. We are no where near a "trust-fund-kid" status. Let's not discriminate each other heh.
Certain people have to wear a badge during late 1930's.
There is a reason why government / universities / non-profit org IT is lower paid.
They come with stable jobs.
And if you get to have accumulated $100K+ in federal student loans because you get the masters degree (or any amount), you get to have them discharged after working in the above organization (anything non-private) for 10 years.
Google bailing out Bank of America!
GF has already been spined off and it is an independent entity.
Don't be suprised. I have seen PhD students in EE that does not know Ohms law. Chances are in both cases, we are encountering an international student. Make me wonder where they bought their bachelors from.
The GRE exam uses software to grade the essay portion for quite a while, along with a human grader. If these two scores different by a point or more, then it is forwarded to another human grader and the final score will be the average of the three entities.
That cuts the cost of running the exam, considering the cost of incurring an extra human grader.
It will soon pop up everywhere at university level, when the budget cuts are everywhere.
"If I threw you out.."
I have been there. I come from a 3rd world country. I know how that works, and I come from behind all the time.
"hen why do you suddenly have a right to force others to take care of you because there's a lot of people around?"
Nobody force you to join the system. You can leave the country if you want.
If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
There are a people enjoying doing charitable works, let's preserve them please.
Republican loves wall street and hates main street. they love you when you doing well but as soon as you are slightly under the weather they thrown you under the bus.
Yeah go ahead and cut food stamps/SS/Medicare/ whatever. Go to your local gun shop and load yourself up. Then when civil war comes, show them who is the boss.
Free food is a human right!
Free clean water is a human right!
Free health care is a human right!
Free housing in crime-free neighborhood is a human right!
Free college education is a human right!
All that can be realized if the president is tough enough to produce that $1 quadrillion platinum coin and use the proceeds to pay off the national debt, pay off all debts of all municipality (state + local), fully fund all pensions, pay off all mortgages of every citizens (renters will get extra tax credit), pay off all credit card debt, forgive all student loans debt, and the gov't will still have at least $700 trillion left over.
Who needs credit (and the credit rating) when you can get balanced budget every time with the "Seigniorage Hack"?
Before you cry "inflation", noted that unlike other 3rd world countries who have done it, we can produce food, natural gas, oil and other natural resources. If that is not enough, our almighty military can annex other countries to get the natural resource we need. Then we don't need to import anymore, we just annex it.
In some jobs you earn twice as much, but end up looking twice as old and feeling twice as old....
Wow I don't know what country you are in, that has sysadmin playing WoW. Here in the U.S. we have to sit in a 90 degree server room because the company have no $ to fix the A/C, and we are forced to use our student loan money to play in the Wall Street Casino in normal business hours because otherwise we have no $ to pay for basic food such as ramen.