Hmm... I've used all of Borland's RAD products, C++ builder basically being one of them, and yes, it does generate code, I've never used anyone else's tools, so I don't know how other tools work, but it is an Excellent visual environment, very easy to quickly come up with code for a project.
Personally, I find Delphi a bit better for RAD projects, as the language is, for me, a touch more intuitive, and less messy than C++. Either way, they're a couple of great RAD tools, and I hope this license doesn't mean what everyone thinks it does.
I wish I had moderator points still so I could moderate this up.
This is exactly the situation, some of the things microsoft is attacking slashdot for are well within it's rights, especially the folks who posted the entire document, that is copyright infringement.
However, some of the newer DMCA stuff (posting links, posting data about how to defeat EULA measures), that stuff should be fought to the Supreme Court. However, I bet if you removed the posts with the entire spec posted, Microsoft would drop the case.
I doubt Carmack will ever leave id, as he is part owner, and the driving-force behind the company, I think if Carmack stops doing it, that's the end of id.
No, not Michael Abrash, Abrash came in when carmack was working on Quake (I have the book, I actually have Zen of graphics programming, the preceeding book, as well), but now that I think about it, I think Sandy Petersen was the first programmer id hired.
I believe, but I'm not sure, that John Cash is the first programmer id ever hired. Carmack and Romero were founders. If I recall correctly, they hired John Cash from Novell to help with the netcode in Doom, and the rest, as they say, is history.
Mr. Cash is famous for being a mormon, having 5 kids, and the "John Cash Diet".
Everyone loves to blame America for everything. We are so the bad guys. We killed the Indians, we kept Africans enslaved, we did all these utterly horrible things. Well, that's in the past. Every country's got it's own dirty little history.
I know you're talking about current events, but i wanted to get that out of the way.
Americas corporations constantly compete and therefore constantly drive up the level of innovation in everything. You want an example of the opposite? Look at Russia during the communist days. When the iron curtain was lifted, we saw that there wasn't much to fear. Everything in Russia sucked, technology and standard of living were basically below USA. Why?
No competition, government owns everything. USA is built on corporations owning things. Fine. That's just fine with me. I'm glad to see it. I would rather corporations be incontrol because at least they have a goal I can understand. Profit, and profit is good for everyone, this is not a zero sum game. I like that American corporations continue to innovate and compete. I do agree that there are problems, but I like the American Dream, I like the idea of advancing civilization and culture, and technology.
Here, we are at the forefront of new technology, now I'm sure some of you non-americans can find examples where this is true, but you have to give us credit. We invented the computer, the assembly line, interchangeable parts, airplanes (arguably), the Internet, the atom bomb (which led to nuclear power, arguably a bad thing, I suppose), the telephone, and myriad other things that brings humans closer together and makes our lives a little easier.
I understand that the thrust of this is that corporations sometimes break the law and go over the line, and Katz is saying that they can't be stopped yadda yadda, but all I get is this huge anti-corporate message, and no look at all to the good side of corporations. You take the bad with the good, weigh them, and decide whether you'd rather live without their benefits, and have the goodness of losing their liabilities, or if you'd rather not lose the benifits, and live with their evils.
I, for one, have not fully decided about my viewpoint yet, but I will not blindly follow the masses on this one.
Facts??? Facts??? Why would Mr. Katz ever stoop so low as to use facts?
It's much more interesting to spew left wing propoganda without any sort of means to back it up. I'm sorry, but this guy is no better than some of those right wing radicals who spew ridiculous rhetoric without any sort of argument behind it.
Let me explain it for you really, really simply, Jon.
First, Metallica finds out about napster. "No, our music is being stolen!" they cry. Then, they contact napster and say: "Stop letting people steal our music", Napster then replies, with an angelic look on their faces: "Sorry, but we don't distribute your music, we can't control what our users do", so Metallica responds by saying "Ban everyone who trades our music", and Napster replies, " But we have no way of tracking them"...
So Metallica had to prove that they did. Don't be a fool, Mr. Katz. Every Metallica fan was breaking the law as soon as they started distributing music that didn't belong to them. I don't like what Metallica did, but I can't condemn it, if you're going to take away others rights, you'd damn well better be ready for your rights to be violated. Besides, what Metallica did wasn't even illegal. It was napster itself that allowed the invasion of privacy, Metallica simply took advantage of it.
Let me just say that I do not like Metallica's music anymore, and I don't really like their stand on Napster, though after the latest interview, I do have a better feeling of what they are trying to do. Their biggest problem is that they're unrealistic, with FreeNet and Gnutella just around the corner, napster is just going to be a martyr, and it's going to cost Metallica bad publicity. Especially on sites like this one.
How would you people feel if Napster had started selling it's software, and used something that was GPLed? That would suck, wouldn't it?
Well... all they would be doing is breaking copywrite laws.
I think these actually look pretty good, I have had both palm and Compaq PDAs, and I, for one, found the compaq far more useful, since I use outlook at work and at home, and it was a snap to synch all my data, also, the PDA itself had a similar interface to outlook.
I like that they're including Media Player on these, too. Saves me the trouble of buying an MP3 player.
I don't think we should let our mutual hatred of AOL color this issue too badly. Germany is pulling some bullshit here, and I sincerely hope that the US courts pay no attention to this shit. Of course, with this Time-Warner deal going down, maybe pretty soon, they can just b[buy]b Germany in a stock swap.
This puts amazon in one hell of a bind though, doesn't it? If they win this suit, won't that be precedent for some of their victims to win their suits? I'm not totally sure about this, as I am not a lawyer, but, damn, that would be cool, wouldn't it?
I used to work for a software company that ended up getting sued for patent infringment, so I am a little bit bitter about this.
Contrary to popular belief, Microsoft is probably actualy nice to many of its employees. It is under such scrutiny that it can't afford not to. However, some of the less popular hardware companies (AOPen, and the other really small and unheard of ones that you can't find at Best Buy) probably aren't as benevolent.
As software programmers go, they have to be nice or they'll all leave, due to the fact that the demand for software programmers is higher than the supply.
Man, you people can not stop slamming Microsoft, can you? You've said in the second paragraph why microsoft treats it's employees so well, something you snidely hinted at in the first paragraph as "they have to" Ah well (-1, Flamebait)
Yes, but the problem here lies with the distribution. You can say "oh I just had a backup copy on my hard drive and napster picked it up as 'avialable for transfer'" but that's just not true, you used napster to distribute this, the minute anyone copies the song from your machine, you have violated the copyright.
As you said "as long as you don't give them to someone else"... if you use napster, and allow it to catalog those files, you are, effectively "giving it to someone else"
You are way off on this, but to some extent, you're right. It isn't legal for you to copy music and give it to someone else, in fact, if you look carefully at most of the CDs you bought, or in the sleeves, somewhere, it will inform you of that very fact. So, copying CDs to your hard drive isn't legal, and it certainly isn't legal to distribute them.
However...
You can't hold Napster responsible for what it's users do. Because I could be distributing my band's latest song, or I could be distributing Led Zeppelin's greatest hits. The software can't tell. This is like suing Smith And Wesson for a murder. Sure, the gun made it possible, but the shooter did it.
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Hmm... I've used all of Borland's RAD products, C++ builder basically being one of them, and yes, it does generate code, I've never used anyone else's tools, so I don't know how other tools work, but it is an Excellent visual environment, very easy to quickly come up with code for a project.
Personally, I find Delphi a bit better for RAD projects, as the language is, for me, a touch more intuitive, and less messy than C++. Either way, they're a couple of great RAD tools, and I hope this license doesn't mean what everyone thinks it does.
NO, if that were actually true, posters would be allowed to edit or erase their own comments.
Oh, and Jon Katz wouldn't be able to publish poster comments in his own book.
I wish I had moderator points still so I could moderate this up.
This is exactly the situation, some of the things microsoft is attacking slashdot for are well within it's rights, especially the folks who posted the entire document, that is copyright infringement.
However, some of the newer DMCA stuff (posting links, posting data about how to defeat EULA measures), that stuff should be fought to the Supreme Court. However, I bet if you removed the posts with the entire spec posted, Microsoft would drop the case.
Hmm... well, I guess I'll go buy all of your books, scan them in with OCR, and post them on my website for free access to all.
After all, no information should be proprietary, right?
No, Cash came in during Doom, Abrash came in during Quake, therefore Cash was first,
I think you're right about DDT, though... My current thought is this:
DDT, Petersen, Cash, Abrash, Hook...
I doubt Carmack will ever leave id, as he is part owner, and the driving-force behind the company, I think if Carmack stops doing it, that's the end of id.
No, not Michael Abrash, Abrash came in when carmack was working on Quake (I have the book, I actually have Zen of graphics programming, the preceeding book, as well), but now that I think about it, I think Sandy Petersen was the first programmer id hired.
I'd love to have this feature on a browser. Is there any chance that someone else could re-implement it? This is an open-source project, right?
I believe, but I'm not sure, that John Cash is the first programmer id ever hired. Carmack and Romero were founders. If I recall correctly, they hired John Cash from Novell to help with the netcode in Doom, and the rest, as they say, is history.
Mr. Cash is famous for being a mormon, having 5 kids, and the "John Cash Diet".
I think you aren't looking at the whole picture.
Everyone loves to blame America for everything. We are so the bad guys. We killed the Indians, we kept Africans enslaved, we did all these utterly horrible things. Well, that's in the past. Every country's got it's own dirty little history.
I know you're talking about current events, but i wanted to get that out of the way.
Americas corporations constantly compete and therefore constantly drive up the level of innovation in everything. You want an example of the opposite? Look at Russia during the communist days. When the iron curtain was lifted, we saw that there wasn't much to fear. Everything in Russia sucked, technology and standard of living were basically below USA. Why?
No competition, government owns everything. USA is built on corporations owning things. Fine. That's just fine with me. I'm glad to see it. I would rather corporations be incontrol because at least they have a goal I can understand. Profit, and profit is good for everyone, this is not a zero sum game. I like that American corporations continue to innovate and compete. I do agree that there are problems, but I like the American Dream, I like the idea of advancing civilization and culture, and technology.
Here, we are at the forefront of new technology, now I'm sure some of you non-americans can find examples where this is true, but you have to give us credit. We invented the computer, the assembly line, interchangeable parts, airplanes (arguably), the Internet, the atom bomb (which led to nuclear power, arguably a bad thing, I suppose), the telephone, and myriad other things that brings humans closer together and makes our lives a little easier.
I understand that the thrust of this is that corporations sometimes break the law and go over the line, and Katz is saying that they can't be stopped yadda yadda, but all I get is this huge anti-corporate message, and no look at all to the good side of corporations. You take the bad with the good, weigh them, and decide whether you'd rather live without their benefits, and have the goodness of losing their liabilities, or if you'd rather not lose the benifits, and live with their evils.
I, for one, have not fully decided about my viewpoint yet, but I will not blindly follow the masses on this one.
Facts??? Facts???
Why would Mr. Katz ever stoop so low as to use facts?
It's much more interesting to spew left wing propoganda without any sort of means to back it up. I'm sorry, but this guy is no better than some of those right wing radicals who spew ridiculous rhetoric without any sort of argument behind it.
Fucking Sophists....
Let me explain it for you really, really simply, Jon.
First, Metallica finds out about napster. "No, our music is being stolen!" they cry. Then, they contact napster and say: "Stop letting people steal our music", Napster then replies, with an angelic look on their faces: "Sorry, but we don't distribute your music, we can't control what our users do", so Metallica responds by saying "Ban everyone who trades our music", and Napster replies, " But we have no way of tracking them"...
So Metallica had to prove that they did. Don't be a fool, Mr. Katz. Every Metallica fan was breaking the law as soon as they started distributing music that didn't belong to them. I don't like what Metallica did, but I can't condemn it, if you're going to take away others rights, you'd damn well better be ready for your rights to be violated. Besides, what Metallica did wasn't even illegal. It was napster itself that allowed the invasion of privacy, Metallica simply took advantage of it.
Let me just say that I do not like Metallica's music anymore, and I don't really like their stand on Napster, though after the latest interview, I do have a better feeling of what they are trying to do. Their biggest problem is that they're unrealistic, with FreeNet and Gnutella just around the corner, napster is just going to be a martyr, and it's going to cost Metallica bad publicity. Especially on sites like this one.
How would you people feel if Napster had started selling it's software, and used something that was GPLed? That would suck, wouldn't it?
Well... all they would be doing is breaking copywrite laws.
The alpha AXP owns your damned PowerPC.
If only Digital had been as big as IBM and able to weather the storms...
I think these actually look pretty good, I have had both palm and Compaq PDAs, and I, for one, found the compaq far more useful, since I use outlook at work and at home, and it was a snap to synch all my data, also, the PDA itself had a similar interface to outlook.
I like that they're including Media Player on these, too. Saves me the trouble of buying an MP3 player.
When can I get one powered by Crusoe, though?
Looks like a good idea, but for $400, I'll just buy a few extra batteries, thank you very much.
Microsoft covered this when the X Box was announced, I'll re-iterate a bit for you here.
1) Caching Game Data to the hard drive for faster access (you mentioned this).
2) Internet Cache (you mentioned this)
3) Updates, patches, savegames, add ons, free demos.
I think the hdd could be rad if they use a totally new game-content-centric filesystem.
--Buckaroo Banzai, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
I don't think we should let our mutual hatred of AOL color this issue too badly. Germany is pulling some bullshit here, and I sincerely hope that the US courts pay no attention to this shit. Of course, with this Time-Warner deal going down, maybe pretty soon, they can just b[buy]b Germany in a stock swap.
This puts amazon in one hell of a bind though, doesn't it? If they win this suit, won't that be precedent for some of their victims to win their suits? I'm not totally sure about this, as I am not a lawyer, but, damn, that would be cool, wouldn't it?
I used to work for a software company that ended up getting sued for patent infringment, so I am a little bit bitter about this.
As software programmers go, they have to be nice or they'll all leave, due to the fact that the demand for software programmers is higher than the supply.
Man, you people can not stop slamming Microsoft, can you? You've said in the second paragraph why microsoft treats it's employees so well, something you snidely hinted at in the first paragraph as "they have to" Ah well (-1, Flamebait)
I agree, however my viewpoint may be a touch skewed since I'm re-reading Atlas Shrugged right now.
Yes, but the problem here lies with the distribution. You can say "oh I just had a backup copy on my hard drive and napster picked it up as 'avialable for transfer'" but that's just not true, you used napster to distribute this, the minute anyone copies the song from your machine, you have violated the copyright.
As you said "as long as you don't give them to someone else"... if you use napster, and allow it to catalog those files, you are, effectively "giving it to someone else"
Hmm.. I stand corrected, I didn't know that. But what's central to this issue is clearly distribution.
Oh my god.. I can see it now.. product placement in songs...
"And she's buying a stairway... to Pepsi"
You are way off on this, but to some extent, you're right. It isn't legal for you to copy music and give it to someone else, in fact, if you look carefully at most of the CDs you bought, or in the sleeves, somewhere, it will inform you of that very fact. So, copying CDs to your hard drive isn't legal, and it certainly isn't legal to distribute them.
However...
You can't hold Napster responsible for what it's users do. Because I could be distributing my band's latest song, or I could be distributing Led Zeppelin's greatest hits. The software can't tell. This is like suing Smith And Wesson for a murder. Sure, the gun made it possible, but the shooter did it.