you get charged case someone else uses up your bandwidth by a worm... Well I'd threaten to sue, and then sue, but I think someone else here mentioned there is a class action lawsuit about this.
However they probably just see the ping using up your bandwidth and that is what they are looking at. I'd probably start loging all IP addresses that are pinging your server and then go after all these users. After all they are infected with this worm and until people who get on the internet start being responsible for keeping their machines firewalled, updates and locked down as much as possible from hackers these things will continue. Most of the MS worms could be prevented if people used zone alarm or black ice or another firewall product. Also most of the Linux and bsd exploits could be avoided if they setup firewalls and update their systems and kept on top of security.
No it is not your fault, so go after those who are using up YOUR bandwidth and sue them and make them pay. It is their irresponsibility and stupidity that are causing these problems.
no kidding.. I have to make coffee if it is not made. Often it is 1/2 cup by the time I get to it.
Then I am a programmer / analyst / business analyst, who has to work with the systems group as well as development group. I trouble shoot hardware, release management, installations, and have to work on other projects and give advice to people who generally don't take it, and then they get upset if I don't take their advice.
I think the real issue is that people see languages such as java, C, C++,.net, and newer languages as more exciting to program in and fortran is percieved as archaic. Also there is only a small market for fortran programmers. Many people probably think that fortran is dean, not because of the compiler, but because fortran is like pascal and cobal. Old languages! Personally when you look at the number of java / C# / VB.net jobs out there, would you really want to learn a language that has such a small market share? Where are teh jobs for a fortran programmer vs C/C++/java, etc?
Most of our clients use cytrix, and they don't want to run Linux, as they don't always 'trust' it. Yeah whatever I run it and have no problems, in fact while they are fighting worms and virus I'm still working away;-). But they need outlook and office and calendaring and have been hocked into the ms.net stuff and so they work in the windows world. At present they are actually more interested in web services then web frontends. Many want to create their own frontends to our systems, but he ones that don't would like the rich web gui if they can get it.
If SCo were to show the actual code to the Linux community, without the NDA, and give them a change to code around it or recode it or remove it then I'd have more faith in SCO's claims. As it stands all they have are claims. Well that would be like me claiming I was the original creator of UNIX and that AT&T stole my code and ideas. Okay I wasn't born then, but hey I would have thought of it.
What SCO has done is play a legal game, and from what I have heard that is what SCO's management is good at doing. They are also playing the stock game, where what they are currently claiming is driving their stock up, so management can sell off their stock and make a profit.
They stil have not shown one single peice of evidance that shows that this code was in UNIX first and not open source / BSD or Linux. Yeah there are code fragments that do exist, but who owns the copyright?
Guess we shall all have to wait and see who wins he lawsuit and who is left in the end. Their lawsuit almost remids me of the RIAA, only the RIAA has shown that they own the songs, whereas SCO hasn't shown squat. So until SCo can prove that they own the code in Linux I'm not paying them a dime, and when they do prove it I'll switch my Linux box to BSD before I give them a f***** dime!
Hmm some companies dont like applets. Also applets can be really time consuming to download and don't always work in the browser. This is not to say that javascript on the client side is going to be any better. I can write a boat load of scripts to crash a web browser though;-).
However the big thing at many companies today is 'do you have a web front end?' No, oh were going to someone who does. Why cause its considered 'cool and new and in and hip'. Yeah okay that's crap, but talk to an exective and that is what many want for some reason. My companies president is just this way. He wanted a java web application front end. He didn't know what he was asking, but he wanted it anyway. What a dumbass huh?
Why is this happening? Maintenance and deployment. I can setup a webserver and when I need to push an update to the software out to the users I just update the webserver and everyone gets it. Java applets may get broken if the right VM is not on the client. Javascript is pretty basic and much of it can be coded to work well with both IE and mozilla and netscape. There is plenty of browser detection code in JS already out there. Rich clients are what people want too.
Also this means that one can lock down a desktop system so that it only has a web browser and everything a user does is done using the browser. Similar to the old green screen models, only now the client is a little more powerful.
Imagine having ot go and install software on 3000 users desktops. Asking users to install software themselves can sometimes be asking for disaster. mac's update is pretty good, but now you just have to get the users to run the update.
Software push is the way that companies want to go, and the web offers them the easy way to push.
Yeah everything is 'web this / web that' but so what?
Anyway, this whole echo stuff is just allowing a java developer to develop code for a rich client that happens to be a web browser without having to think about cookies and maintaing state. What's so bad about that. Hey if you don't like it dont use it.
I actually like eye candy....
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in all reality most of these desktops look much like windows / mac / or some linux desktop currently in use like blackbox or E or something. Eye candy is kinda nice cause it sortof adds an actual desk to the 'desktop'. I guess I would probably add a file drawer and inbox / outbox on the side of the desk. Also it seems like you could go on with a more 'desktop' desk like look and feel. Kinda different, but more user firendly I'd think. If done right then you would add a 'media player' that looks like a radio on the desktop and make the whole desktop look like a virtual desk. Anyway it is not something that I have seen many people do. Yes it would be costly as it would be opengl and all 3d and lots of graphics, but what else do you do with all those cpu cycles;-).
Hmm a drivers license for surfing the web;-) Not a bad idea.
I agree, I don't want a filtered web either. My ISP, eartlink, will set up home networking for users, they also tell them to get free firewall software for the computer. Usually this consists of zonealarm for the PC, but they do offer support for mac users also, and I have seen linux info on their web site. http://www.earthlink.net/home/broadband/ There is more info.
I'd feel gipped if they started blocking ports. What if I want to create an ssh tunnel to a site and use port 135? A generic firwall blocking this could cause a problem.
assuming this link is still active read here about netgear and smc http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=74 &ncid=74&e=4&u=/cmp/20030906/tc_cmp/147000 57
Supposedly Linksys, uses Linux in their devices. There was a discussion about this on the linux kernel mailing list or slashdot a little while ago.
Anyway the principal is the same in both cases. Both Linux and these devices offer you a firewall and both offer you NAT and a few other features. The NAT devices offer you ease of configuration and ease of use, while Linux, BSD, or any other UNIX type OS that has built in firewalling offers you a little more control over the firewalling. AFAIK you cant deal with frag packets in these NAT devices and specify various tcp flags or things. All they do is allow or deny various types of traffic. Also you cant set them up to do DNS / mail like you could a Linux / BSD system.
In the end it is a matter of preference IMHO and affordability. If you can afford one and don't want to deal with all the updates that you'd be applying to a Linux box or BSD system then that would be the way to go.
I'm mean SGI is not doing that well themselves, just look at the number of people they laid off. They're hanging in there, but I doubt they have loads of cash. At most SCO could get IRIX, and who buys IRIX new these days?
It seems to me that this is kinda the same thing. 192.168/16 is actually a lot of address space, unless you are a really big company. One thing you could do is implement an ipv6 network and than do a ipv6 to 4 nat to access the internet.
Alternately, nat allows a natted ipaddress to be natted again and again. So you could setup a 192.168.1.x network then each 192.168.1 consists of 192.168.0.x networks. That should give you about 255 * 255 or 65025 ip addresses to play with. It would be interesting to know if it worked and you have a 192.168.0.1 address that gets natted to 192.168.1.1 and gets natted again to then to your public ip address.
I think the 10's give more addresses without double natting so it depends on how much you expect your network to grow.
we sell a version of our software to run on Linux and use HP hardware now, with xeon processors. We just shipped a client the hardware and all installed on one of these HP / Compac proliant servers. It was a pretty sweet setup, but should be for 6k. It did not have any OS installed, and putting Linux was easy to boot;-). Also they have a remote shutdown control that you can connect an ethernet to and I think it either runs Linux or xp, the nmap fingerprint showed Linux though;-)
".NET advocates are quick to point out that Java offers only limited support on the client side, and that it also lacks rapid application development tools comparable to Visual Studio.NET. "
I figured that symantics visual cafe was on par with vb 6 ide. Also netbeans, and eclipse are getting pretty close to full ide, with GUI development, web authoring and publishing and web services. Netbeans is actually pretty cool.
Actually I think people pay for this because it comes with the computer they buy in many cases.
The other issue is that to many people use MS word and Openoffice just came out in the past year or so and Word has been around for to long. Many people don't even know about openoffice.
Then there is the issue of Scheduling. My company WONT switch to a web based schedule system and so we are stuck using MS Mail cause it offers group calendaring and it is paid for. They wont upgrade to exchange cause it costs to much and there is no free or super cheap solution that does what ms mail / exchange does. Yes evolution can interact with exchange, but there is no exchange server replacement that is cheap or free and works with both windwos and Unix and does all that ms outlook does. I don't like it but MS has hooked people into their technology.
MS SChedule+ was the one tool that MS got a hold of somehow (either they developed it (RARE) or bought a company that did) and people depend on that more than word or office now that there are many other alternative.
Personally I think their days are numbered. I hope atleast.
DONT leave your cell phones ON at your desk and leave your desk. You may like your ring tone but it will probably bother others.
DONT use a radio without headphones. Background noise is what it will come off as to others, no matter how low it is it will probably annoy others. Some people don't like it. ASK FIRST!
DONT humm or make lots of weird noises, it may annoy those arround you.
DONT use the hands free on your telephone, cause most people WONT want to hear your conversations. You should use a conference room for meetings even phone meetings.
DONT surf porno sites, other may be offended, also watch what you do surf, as others may be offended. Yes many places have no web surfing rules, but most places are pretty laxed about it.
The gist is that Windows has spend more time on usability and 'integration of the web browser and stuff' and little time on security. Read my prior post.
Hmm I wonder if the wash post moitors/.? (LOL) cause it seems like they got that idea on windows from me. I know it took redhat a little time to start shipping with a firewall configuration tool as part of the install, but they do now. Why is it though that MS has been around for so long and it took them till 2000 to ship a pitiful attempt at a firewall, when even Linux (the new kid on the blook) has had one for so long? Even OS X has a better out of the box firewall utility.
I guess this means that BSD could sue SCO then for violating their license?
One could say that SCO has been busted, and that it is only a matter of time before they are investigated. So who does one file a complaint with about a company?? Better Business Bureau or Federal Trade Commision or both? Or is there a better place?
Actually it has to do with the fact that Microsoft has added VBScript into EVERYTHING that they ship. Excel, Word, Outlook, IE, etc. The intention of this was good, lets make it easy for people to add macros. The outcome has been bad, as there was no security thought put in to this whole thing until AFTER virii started apearing all over windows.
Well yes it is possible to exploit a UNIX/Mac-BSD/linux OS (now referred to as UMBL) based system, it is much more difficult to do on a generic basis. 1) They all include firewalls as part of the OS. While often they can be disabled or not turned on by default, It was not till 2000 (win2k) that Windows started including a firewall as part of the OS. Even Linux, the new kid on the block has had SOME built in firewalling for about 10 years or more. 2) There is less scripting integration of applications in UMBL than in windows. If I am using mozilla mail or pine then I have to setup these 'execute this with' options. Also I am more likely to get prompted for this. With Windows virii you just click on the mail with the preview pane open and your hozed. MS does not make it super intuitive to figure out how to shut this off either. There is NO "Preferences" in Outlook, just "Options". Options are not really preferences. MS really needs to rethink what the F*** they are doing. I'm suprised noone has decided to ask the question is it just as easy to attack UMBL machines as it is windows? Or is it that people who run UMBL (atleast UBL not sure about M) more likely to turn off services and put up firewalls?
Yes every OS has holes, but with windows these holes appear as big as the grand canyon, while on other OS'es they appear like small little volcanos. The real issue is that MS needs to start shipping their product with ALL services off and a tight firewall and VBScript OFF and make the users turn these things on instead. Add Preferences into the system. They need to make it so that you can update a system and not have to reboot it cause you installed some new updates, unless its the actual OS kernel itself.
Also they need to lighten up on the licencing, and allow for people at home to install on 4-5 machines like Mac does. Mac costs 129 for OSX and a home user license (4-5 users) Windows costs 300 for 2k / XP for a 1 users license. Linux / BSD are less than 100 or even FREE for unlimited license. I think that part of the problem of people not updating their OS is that many people cannot afford 5x300 for WIndows and don't upgrade and update their OS cause A - bandwidth, B - fear that MS will come after them for license violation.
Don't defend a company that has 40 billion dollars in excess money that allows this kind of thing to happen, and then decides to outsource to india to make its profits even greater and its userbase larger. It just isn't right!
Its not a requirement that you have it in FreeBSD AFAIK, its an option. Also if you are talking about flash cards / CDROM where you have about 650 Megs limit or older machines that cant handle a bigger disk then this will allow more stuff to be installed or a smaller install. There are people who use 128Meg flash cards to run BSD / Linux from as a firewall.
Not sure how you'd kill ld.so, I'm guessing your talking about rm -rf ld.so. Yeah you'd be screwed, but there is such thing as a rescue CD or upgrading the system.
I'm not suprised. But this just goes to show you the problem with the BSD license vs the GPL. In the BSD anyone can do pretty much anything they want to it, and not tell you about it. The GPL requires that you also give the source.
It seems BOTH MS and SCO would be happier if Linux was BSD licensed instead of GPL.
You should look at the uClibc project which is trying to make a smaller libc for small floppy based distros. Also busybox, can be used to make a smaller system. Progamming in assembly is not pretty.
LOL.. it was more interesting to read how all this publicity is making SCO execs who are selling their stocks more money... I'd say they're a terminally ill brain cancer patient with less than a year to live, but that's just me...
This is good in the case of people who want to run a system off a cdrom or floppy or flash memory. On a cdrom you don't need to worry about deleteing/usr cause it should be burned into the cdrom. Also any partitions that you need end up in ram / memory disks./dev is a good example of a ram disk. By having a smaller/bin and/sbin one can suddenly have nice small routers / gateways using freebsd, instead of Linux.
I'd imagine that if NetBSD and OpenBSD don't already have this ability it will be a matter of time as the BSD's share much between each other. Just look at the realpath vulnerability that they all were affected by.
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However they probably just see the ping using up your bandwidth and that is what they are looking at. I'd probably start loging all IP addresses that are pinging your server and then go after all these users. After all they are infected with this worm and until people who get on the internet start being responsible for keeping their machines firewalled, updates and locked down as much as possible from hackers these things will continue. Most of the MS worms could be prevented if people used zone alarm or black ice or another firewall product. Also most of the Linux and bsd exploits could be avoided if they setup firewalls and update their systems and kept on top of security.
No it is not your fault, so go after those who are using up YOUR bandwidth and sue them and make them pay. It is their irresponsibility and stupidity that are causing these problems.
yes this is true, but C is also more powerful and there is a C99 (99 or 2000?) spec out that makes a few updates.
Then I am a programmer / analyst / business analyst, who has to work with the systems group as well as development group. I trouble shoot hardware, release management, installations, and have to work on other projects and give advice to people who generally don't take it, and then they get upset if I don't take their advice.
I think the real issue is that people see languages such as java, C, C++, .net, and newer languages as more exciting to program in and fortran is percieved as archaic. Also there is only a small market for fortran programmers. Many people probably think that fortran is dean, not because of the compiler, but because fortran is like pascal and cobal. Old languages! Personally when you look at the number of java / C# / VB .net jobs out there, would you really want to learn a language that has such a small market share? Where are teh jobs for a fortran programmer vs C/C++/java, etc?
Most of our clients use cytrix, and they don't want to run Linux, as they don't always 'trust' it. Yeah whatever I run it and have no problems, in fact while they are fighting worms and virus I'm still working away ;-). But they need outlook and office and calendaring and have been hocked into the ms .net stuff and so they work in the windows world. At present they are actually more interested in web services then web frontends. Many want to create their own frontends to our systems, but he ones that don't would like the rich web gui if they can get it.
What SCO has done is play a legal game, and from what I have heard that is what SCO's management is good at doing. They are also playing the stock game, where what they are currently claiming is driving their stock up, so management can sell off their stock and make a profit.
They stil have not shown one single peice of evidance that shows that this code was in UNIX first and not open source / BSD or Linux. Yeah there are code fragments that do exist, but who owns the copyright?
Guess we shall all have to wait and see who wins he lawsuit and who is left in the end. Their lawsuit almost remids me of the RIAA, only the RIAA has shown that they own the songs, whereas SCO hasn't shown squat. So until SCo can prove that they own the code in Linux I'm not paying them a dime, and when they do prove it I'll switch my Linux box to BSD before I give them a f***** dime!
However the big thing at many companies today is 'do you have a web front end?' No, oh were going to someone who does. Why cause its considered 'cool and new and in and hip'. Yeah okay that's crap, but talk to an exective and that is what many want for some reason. My companies president is just this way. He wanted a java web application front end. He didn't know what he was asking, but he wanted it anyway. What a dumbass huh?
Why is this happening? Maintenance and deployment. I can setup a webserver and when I need to push an update to the software out to the users I just update the webserver and everyone gets it. Java applets may get broken if the right VM is not on the client. Javascript is pretty basic and much of it can be coded to work well with both IE and mozilla and netscape. There is plenty of browser detection code in JS already out there. Rich clients are what people want too.
Also this means that one can lock down a desktop system so that it only has a web browser and everything a user does is done using the browser. Similar to the old green screen models, only now the client is a little more powerful.
Imagine having ot go and install software on 3000 users desktops. Asking users to install software themselves can sometimes be asking for disaster. mac's update is pretty good, but now you just have to get the users to run the update.
Software push is the way that companies want to go, and the web offers them the easy way to push.
Yeah everything is 'web this / web that' but so what?
Anyway, this whole echo stuff is just allowing a java developer to develop code for a rich client that happens to be a web browser without having to think about cookies and maintaing state. What's so bad about that. Hey if you don't like it dont use it.
in all reality most of these desktops look much like windows / mac / or some linux desktop currently in use like blackbox or E or something. Eye candy is kinda nice cause it sortof adds an actual desk to the 'desktop'. I guess I would probably add a file drawer and inbox / outbox on the side of the desk. Also it seems like you could go on with a more 'desktop' desk like look and feel. Kinda different, but more user firendly I'd think. If done right then you would add a 'media player' that looks like a radio on the desktop and make the whole desktop look like a virtual desk. Anyway it is not something that I have seen many people do. Yes it would be costly as it would be opengl and all 3d and lots of graphics, but what else do you do with all those cpu cycles ;-).
I agree, I don't want a filtered web either. My ISP, eartlink, will set up home networking for users, they also tell them to get free firewall software for the computer. Usually this consists of zonealarm for the PC, but they do offer support for mac users also, and I have seen linux info on their web site. http://www.earthlink.net/home/broadband/ There is more info.
I'd feel gipped if they started blocking ports. What if I want to create an ssh tunnel to a site and use port 135? A generic firwall blocking this could cause a problem.
In either case you have to keep them updated
Anyway the principal is the same in both cases. Both Linux and these devices offer you a firewall and both offer you NAT and a few other features. The NAT devices offer you ease of configuration and ease of use, while Linux, BSD, or any other UNIX type OS that has built in firewalling offers you a little more control over the firewalling. AFAIK you cant deal with frag packets in these NAT devices and specify various tcp flags or things. All they do is allow or deny various types of traffic. Also you cant set them up to do DNS / mail like you could a Linux / BSD system.
In the end it is a matter of preference IMHO and affordability. If you can afford one and don't want to deal with all the updates that you'd be applying to a Linux box or BSD system then that would be the way to go.
I'm mean SGI is not doing that well themselves, just look at the number of people they laid off. They're hanging in there, but I doubt they have loads of cash. At most SCO could get IRIX, and who buys IRIX new these days?
Alternately, nat allows a natted ipaddress to be natted again and again. So you could setup a 192.168.1.x network then each 192.168.1 consists of 192.168.0.x networks. That should give you about 255 * 255 or 65025 ip addresses to play with. It would be interesting to know if it worked and you have a 192.168.0.1 address that gets natted to 192.168.1.1 and gets natted again to then to your public ip address.
I think the 10's give more addresses without double natting so it depends on how much you expect your network to grow.
we sell a version of our software to run on Linux and use HP hardware now, with xeon processors. We just shipped a client the hardware and all installed on one of these HP / Compac proliant servers. It was a pretty sweet setup, but should be for 6k. It did not have any OS installed, and putting Linux was easy to boot ;-). Also they have a remote shutdown control that you can connect an ethernet to and I think it either runs Linux or xp, the nmap fingerprint showed Linux though ;-)
I figured that symantics visual cafe was on par with vb 6 ide. Also netbeans, and eclipse are getting pretty close to full ide, with GUI development, web authoring and publishing and web services. Netbeans is actually pretty cool.
The other issue is that to many people use MS word and Openoffice just came out in the past year or so and Word has been around for to long. Many people don't even know about openoffice.
Then there is the issue of Scheduling. My company WONT switch to a web based schedule system and so we are stuck using MS Mail cause it offers group calendaring and it is paid for. They wont upgrade to exchange cause it costs to much and there is no free or super cheap solution that does what ms mail / exchange does. Yes evolution can interact with exchange, but there is no exchange server replacement that is cheap or free and works with both windwos and Unix and does all that ms outlook does. I don't like it but MS has hooked people into their technology.
MS SChedule+ was the one tool that MS got a hold of somehow (either they developed it (RARE) or bought a company that did) and people depend on that more than word or office now that there are many other alternative.
Personally I think their days are numbered. I hope atleast.
DONT leave your cell phones ON at your desk and leave your desk. You may like your ring tone but it will probably bother others.
DONT use a radio without headphones. Background noise is what it will come off as to others, no matter how low it is it will probably annoy others. Some people don't like it. ASK FIRST!
DONT humm or make lots of weird noises, it may annoy those arround you.
DONT use the hands free on your telephone, cause most people WONT want to hear your conversations. You should use a conference room for meetings even phone meetings.
DONT surf porno sites, other may be offended, also watch what you do surf, as others may be offended. Yes many places have no web surfing rules, but most places are pretty laxed about it.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=75725&cid=6766 597
The gist is that Windows has spend more time on usability and 'integration of the web browser and stuff' and little time on security. Read my prior post.
Hmm I wonder if the wash post moitors /.? (LOL) cause it seems like they got that idea on windows from me. I know it took redhat a little time to start shipping with a firewall configuration tool as part of the install, but they do now. Why is it though that MS has been around for so long and it took them till 2000 to ship a pitiful attempt at a firewall, when even Linux (the new kid on the blook) has had one for so long? Even OS X has a better out of the box firewall utility.
One could say that SCO has been busted, and that it is only a matter of time before they are investigated. So who does one file a complaint with about a company?? Better Business Bureau or Federal Trade Commision or both? Or is there a better place?
Well yes it is possible to exploit a UNIX/Mac-BSD/linux OS (now referred to as UMBL) based system, it is much more difficult to do on a generic basis. 1) They all include firewalls as part of the OS. While often they can be disabled or not turned on by default, It was not till 2000 (win2k) that Windows started including a firewall as part of the OS. Even Linux, the new kid on the block has had SOME built in firewalling for about 10 years or more. 2) There is less scripting integration of applications in UMBL than in windows. If I am using mozilla mail or pine then I have to setup these 'execute this with' options. Also I am more likely to get prompted for this. With Windows virii you just click on the mail with the preview pane open and your hozed. MS does not make it super intuitive to figure out how to shut this off either. There is NO "Preferences" in Outlook, just "Options". Options are not really preferences. MS really needs to rethink what the F*** they are doing. I'm suprised noone has decided to ask the question is it just as easy to attack UMBL machines as it is windows? Or is it that people who run UMBL (atleast UBL not sure about M) more likely to turn off services and put up firewalls?
Yes every OS has holes, but with windows these holes appear as big as the grand canyon, while on other OS'es they appear like small little volcanos. The real issue is that MS needs to start shipping their product with ALL services off and a tight firewall and VBScript OFF and make the users turn these things on instead. Add Preferences into the system. They need to make it so that you can update a system and not have to reboot it cause you installed some new updates, unless its the actual OS kernel itself.
Also they need to lighten up on the licencing, and allow for people at home to install on 4-5 machines like Mac does. Mac costs 129 for OSX and a home user license (4-5 users) Windows costs 300 for 2k / XP for a 1 users license. Linux / BSD are less than 100 or even FREE for unlimited license. I think that part of the problem of people not updating their OS is that many people cannot afford 5x300 for WIndows and don't upgrade and update their OS cause A - bandwidth, B - fear that MS will come after them for license violation.
Don't defend a company that has 40 billion dollars in excess money that allows this kind of thing to happen, and then decides to outsource to india to make its profits even greater and its userbase larger. It just isn't right!
Not sure how you'd kill ld.so, I'm guessing your talking about rm -rf ld.so. Yeah you'd be screwed, but there is such thing as a rescue CD or upgrading the system.
It seems BOTH MS and SCO would be happier if Linux was BSD licensed instead of GPL.
You should look at the uClibc project which is trying to make a smaller libc for small floppy based distros. Also busybox, can be used to make a smaller system. Progamming in assembly is not pretty.
LOL.. it was more interesting to read how all this publicity is making SCO execs who are selling their stocks more money... I'd say they're a terminally ill brain cancer patient with less than a year to live, but that's just me...
I'd imagine that if NetBSD and OpenBSD don't already have this ability it will be a matter of time as the BSD's share much between each other. Just look at the realpath vulnerability that they all were affected by.