Well somebody doesn't 69.3.52.1500:4444 -> x.x.x.x:445 !
This is what I found in my log today;-). I guess I wonder why windows can't make it more difficult for people to create self spreading virus ? Linux, BSD, and UNIX don't SEEM have these self spreading virus. Don't you ever wonder why MS with all is billions of spare dollars, can't prevent this? I guess they are getting better at it and someday they will probably actually have a system that is tough to crack.
My favorite worm that keeps hitting my firewall has this signature: 210.54.66.46:1028 -> x.x.x.x:137. My poor system is being attacked by a number of systems.
If I had a dime for each port 137 attack on my system I'd be a millionair!
... its so they can run quicktime and not have to screw with windows.
Truth is it would give them the ability to do all the java and most of the UNIX stuff they do on their Sun boxes at work, only with BSD, yet still allow them to do things like watch quicktime and use IE or Safari. Besides Mac has a way better gui than Sun.
.... if we fold.. all of our clients are guaranteed that if we fold they get the source code, so that they can continue to use it, improve it, etc. It is part of the deal. Also the clients can buy the source code to our product if they want, but good luck compiling it, there are over 3000 generated files, 200 scripts and over 2000 none generated files, plus mscellaneous stuff. I can do though, so I'm one of about 3 people.
will highlight Microsoft's advantages in areas such as security
I feel SOOOO secure in knowing that a virus can attack my computer by just clickin on an email or running IIS... oh wait that doesn't happen in Linux/UNIX/BSD!
Yeah I know they all have exploits, but how many times have 'NONE MS' expoits caused mass disruption on the internet, not including ddos?(virus by web servers that are still going around and attacking IIS.)
a crosstip screwdriver usually called a phillips screwdriver and a brain to use it.
Oh and replacement parts.
You usually replace the whole component rather than fix the component, so you would replace the video card, hard driver etc, rather than try to fix it as that is cheaper.
I have to wonder if linksys is the only one doing this. I have a broadmax dsl modem that has built in pppoe and nat and some other interseting things and when I portscanned it with nmap its best guess was that it was running linux 2.4.x . I don't remember the exact kernel rev, but I thought it was interesting. The scan of course cannot be 100% accurate because it did not find any open ports, but it did make me wonder. How many other companies are using Linux to build their embeded devices and not telling anyone or not releasesing the source code?
They also invented COM / DCOM / ACTIVE X (afaik). None of which is really needed and only useful on windows. C# is a knockoff of Java. clr = jvm. Syntactically they are similar.
Billy can use the word 'inovation' cause he knows he is not 'inventing'. He is taking existing stuff and making it 'better' (in thier terms).
GUI OS -> Xerox invented it, Mac took it from them, then MS, now Linux desktop GUI.
UNIX -> ATT invented it, BSD enhanced it and invented their OWN, SCO 'owns' something now, Linux did what BSD did, essentially.
Apache, hmm NCSA httpd was the first, Open Source none the less, then apache, THEN IIS from MS.
WordStar -> WordPerfect, MS word.
Mosaic, then Netscape, then Internet Exploder/Exploiter, konqueror.
Hmm see a trend? MS doesn't have a whole lot of original ideas, and now they are upset cause someone else has done what they have done only better, in some areas.
MS says their is no R&D in opensource, I say that is malarky! In R&D you find the need then fill it. In open source someone sees a need and then creates a project and fills it. Apache, Mozilla/Netscape, Abiword, GNOME/KDE, blackbox, etc. They all saw a need and filled it.
This is just MS taking advantage of Linux being put in a bad light. Truth is that the only reason they care about IP is greed.
"I work in a cubicle farm, and the guy in the opposite cubicle"
I have done that too. The thing that you missed is that you were BOTH in the office and were able to talk very easily. With telecommuting, how do you get people to use AIM or something like that? How do you get management, who does not want to spend money on conference calls, to buy video cams or any collaborative software?? How do you manage someone who works remotely where there is only communication via phone call direct or email? Some people here have mentioned solutions, but more often managers that barely can manage people in an office are surely not going to manage people remoetly effectivly.
I think you missed the point of my post. My point is that it is harder for a manager to manage remote people than to manage people in an office. That is just a fact! If someone is in the office, you know EXACTLY what time they come in, what time they leave and what they do, when they are away from their desk and you can monitor their internet habbits easier, (filters on fierwall and logging) as well as require them to come to those useless meetings. Managers can 'see' productivity.
When you get into outsourcing thing, there is someone else to do the manageing, of the remote group. It is not one person, it is a group, that is in a remote office. Managers like dealing with other managers and have less problems with this kind of setup.
I'm not saying that it is right, I'm saying that is what happens.
no windows interoperability. There is no free plugin that works with Outlook. This is a problem is you want to get ride of exchange / msmail server and replace it with this, cause then you have to PAY for a connector to this. So then is it really worth it to management when they already have a licensed peice of software that works? Not in my company. yes there is a web frontend to it, but that is NOT a solution. This is close and if you can pull off an entirely linux / unix installbase then you are okay, but when your flagship product runs windows and management wont let the dev team rewrite it, your glued to windows.
I'd have to agree with you. Problem that I have seen most, and from some of the other posts here, is that the outsourcing to India and other countries does not give you a better product, only a cheaper work force. In many cases it actually gives you a worse product, cause of the communication gap.
IT is going the way of the auto industry. Now that many big companies see that they can get a software product from other countries cheaper they do.
Telecommuting is vastly different. I don't like telecommuters. One or two days a week is okay, but any more becomes more of a hastle. Many peoplw will take advantage of this and work none standard hours or work to many hours to get stuff done, or work to few. I am working on a project now and 3 of the members work at home. One guy in the office created an object. At the same time one guy who was telecommuting created a similar object. Both do essentially the same thing. Had they both been in the office they probably would have talked about this and only one would have implemented it. Had management been more interactive they probably would have found out through a conference call. Problem is that managers in the US don't want to manage either, they want to make money and they don't care how it gets done. Most big companies don't give a rats a** about you working at home in your underware, or nude or even in your cube at the office, they want to make money, PERIOD. If they can get decent work out of someone overseas as compared to you for less which do you think they are going to pick?
If all you want is a hamburger are you going to go and buy the $6 hamburger every day or are you going to get 2 x $1 hamburgers that will work just as well? If both will fill your tummy, and both taste like burgers, most people will go for the 2 x $1 burgers, thinking 'they are getting a deal'. Well think of yourself as the $6 buger and outsourcing as the 2x$1 burger. Most people go for the 2x$1 dollar burgers and save themself $4 in the process. Sorry but thats the way it is!
The auto and manufacturing industries have gone the same way. Its okay to buy clothes that were made in Mexico by some child, cause it cost you less in the US. It doesn't really matter which car you bought, cause many of the parts are made OUTSIDE the US. Just go to auto makers web site and see how many companies are actually 1 company. A Ford pickup and Mazda pickup are the same truck, just with different labels on them, and there are MANY cars like that.
I'd imagint that there would be some common code between windows and Linux. That would have to be GPL or out of kernel. I have no problem with binary drivers in my kernel, but some people consider it tainting the kernel. How much IP are you willing to give away under the GPL is what this boild down to?
You have to be able to do the following: 1) open the device; 2) close the device; 3) read from the device; 4) write to the device.
Go here (it has info on this): http://tldp.org/LDP/khg/HyperNews/get/devices/devi ces.html
Basically there is already USB support in the kernel, so you would need to start there. There are many supporting funcitons. Good luck.
why not? I do and refuse ALL cookies. If I cant visit a site that uses cookies I just leave, unless there is something I really really want from the site like info (oracle, sun, slashdot). Most sites say why they use cookies when you visit the site and you have cookies turned off for that site.
I don't understand why people, especially legislators of any country spend their time on this stuff.
no problem, I've been coding JS before there was DOM in Netscape, so I am used to the docuement.write() I am slowly moving to the DOM model on my website and work, but also want to keep some compatibility with older browsers, that don't do DOM / JS very well.
I know, I am the poster;-)
Interesting, so what made you post first and ask slashdot, then search for JS libraries? Just out of curiousity. I always 'google it'.
I am checking out the library, it is very cool. I just downloaded it now. It uses the DOM, and basically implements a mkDiv() function that does what my document.write does, only it does all the calculations first and creates the HTML string and THEN writes the data. I just tried this out with a modified version of my example and it works bit faster.
If you go with this lib, it would probably be best to stick to 1 graph or 2 graphs per page. Also I'd do bar graphs over pie whereever possible, it may increase the speed of the draring. In using bar graphs if you have 5 'peices' you could then use only 5 divs and just vary their size. In the pie / circle you end up with however many divs it takes to create a circle of that size. Good luck.
Yes that is the other way you could do it. Yes it is very slow, when drawing circles.
You should learn to use the DOM instead of document.write....
I know DOM! My web site has a neat little digital clock that was done in all DOM using the document.createTextnode(newtime); I also have a dhtml calendar, that uses obj.innerHTML = stuff too.
The poster was asking what ways to create charts for the web, when he asked about pie charts I did a quick and dirty example. The advantage to doing it my way is that some of the styles could be put in stylssheets. Of and if you looked at my example closer, you probably would have noticed that I had cos y and sin x which is backwards. Alternatively one could use a 1x1 gif image and use that instead of a div. Not sure what the performance gain or loss would be. I'd imagine that at this point using DHTML / DOM for charts would be medocre performance. Flash would probably be better, or a custom plugin.
You add a few more functions, drawLine(x,y,xx,yy) and draw circle() or a draw piepeice() / drawArc(). Intially it would be alot of work. There may even be libraries out there already that does some of this. With DHTML you can also add in mouse movements (yes you can do that in flash and java too). At this point you are talking about creatig geometric shapes on a canvas using JS.
At that point the question becomes a matter of algorythms.
Yes, listen to this post. DHTML is very powerful and many people don't use it. With DHTML you can support Opera 6+, Konqueror3+ (maybe earlier versions?), IE4+ and NS6.1+ with very little difficulties. Using the div tag you can do wonders.
EG: create a style sheet that creates a div with a border. Change the height on this and add in absolute positioning and you now have a bar graph. Data could be sent to the client in a a set of JavaScript arrays (one for X, one for Y or 2 d array). Create a few functions for A controlling layout and B controlling size and tada you have pretty client side graphs and charts without a plugin. Will work pretty nicely on above mentioned browsers too.
If you look in my profile (josepha48) and look at some of the old posts I said about this. I had already said that it was Caldera, and I quote myself:
My feeling is that after Caldera bought SCO, the code went both ways. SCO Linux. Also at this point IBM was NO longer obligated to SCO as they were now Caldera and their contracts were with SCO not Caldera. Yes contracts can be transferred, but IBM was not required to do business with Caldera. They did anyway.
Of course when caldera bought SCO, who didn't see the code going both ways? I'm sure the Linux Kernel Personality that was added into SCO doesn't contain any Linux code (yeah right).
Okay, I kinda expected this to happen. The question now is which files are tainted? Then who needs to recode them, SCO or Linux?
Since Caldera did not have source code control or a policy in place on this and THEY released the code (albiet unkowingly probably) doesn't it still falls under the GPL? Does SCO have any claim on any of the code?
I'm not sure, but is it possible to run VMware remotely? It may be a way to give remote desktops to people that could be cheaper than Cytrix or tarantilla? Not sure if that is the plan I don't live in Munich.
If you support several platforms then you have to package differently for each and maintain for each. If you have a home grown system like us we have one system that works on all the platforms we support and it is easier to deal with. Basically it is a set of bourne shell scripts to untar our stuff from cd to disk and setup a few things on the system like in teh/etc dir.
.. but I used to work at that office and had to get out to get away from the 'dumbing effect' it has on people. Not all people who work there are that dumb, but the problem is that they have quotas of how many actions they must perform a week. Each patent has 2 actions.
First action is usually a rejection on something, but not always. Could be language / semantics, or something. Could also be peior art if the examiner finds any.
The second action is then the final rejection or allowance. This needs to be based on the first action, so if the first action was a rejection on language then the second action is usually an allowance. If the first action was based on prior art and the art was good then it is usually a rejection. Most stuff is never black and white, there are some 65million colors that most patents fall into.
If you go back and forth more than 2 times on any patent then you spin your wheels as a patent examiner, and don't get credit for a third or fourth action if you have to do more than 2 actions on a patent. Thus if you don't find anything in a period of time, then you have to allow it.
As you get promoted in the patent office, you are expected to do MORE actions. So if you start out as a GS7 you have 4 actions about every 2 weeks. When you become a GS9 it is 5-1/2 actions about every two weeks. (GS is goverment job scale ratings. ) It was like that when I was there and I doubt it has changed much. The actual number of actions may not be 100% correct but it is close enough that anyone with an IQ smarter than a tomato plant can get the general idea.
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This is what I found in my log today ;-). I guess I wonder why windows can't make it more difficult for people to create self spreading virus ? Linux, BSD, and UNIX don't SEEM have these self spreading virus. Don't you ever wonder why MS with all is billions of spare dollars, can't prevent this? I guess they are getting better at it and someday they will probably actually have a system that is tough to crack.
My favorite worm that keeps hitting my firewall has this signature: 210.54.66.46:1028 -> x.x.x.x:137. My poor system is being attacked by a number of systems.
If I had a dime for each port 137 attack on my system I'd be a millionair!
Hmm lets see them go after the NSA ;-) bye buh SCO
.. I wish Redhat and SuSE would file a class action lawsuit and let the Linux community join in.
Truth is it would give them the ability to do all the java and most of the UNIX stuff they do on their Sun boxes at work, only with BSD, yet still allow them to do things like watch quicktime and use IE or Safari. Besides Mac has a way better gui than Sun.
.... if we fold.. all of our clients are guaranteed that if we fold they get the source code, so that they can continue to use it, improve it, etc. It is part of the deal. Also the clients can buy the source code to our product if they want, but good luck compiling it, there are over 3000 generated files, 200 scripts and over 2000 none generated files, plus mscellaneous stuff. I can do though, so I'm one of about 3 people.
Yeah I know they all have exploits, but how many times have 'NONE MS' expoits caused mass disruption on the internet, not including ddos?(virus by web servers that are still going around and attacking IIS.)
Oh and replacement parts.
You usually replace the whole component rather than fix the component, so you would replace the video card, hard driver etc, rather than try to fix it as that is cheaper.
I have to wonder if linksys is the only one doing this. I have a broadmax dsl modem that has built in pppoe and nat and some other interseting things and when I portscanned it with nmap its best guess was that it was running linux 2.4.x . I don't remember the exact kernel rev, but I thought it was interesting. The scan of course cannot be 100% accurate because it did not find any open ports, but it did make me wonder. How many other companies are using Linux to build their embeded devices and not telling anyone or not releasesing the source code?
Billy can use the word 'inovation' cause he knows he is not 'inventing'. He is taking existing stuff and making it 'better' (in thier terms).
GUI OS -> Xerox invented it, Mac took it from them, then MS, now Linux desktop GUI.
UNIX -> ATT invented it, BSD enhanced it and invented their OWN, SCO 'owns' something now, Linux did what BSD did, essentially.
Apache, hmm NCSA httpd was the first, Open Source none the less, then apache, THEN IIS from MS.
WordStar -> WordPerfect, MS word.
Mosaic, then Netscape, then Internet Exploder/Exploiter, konqueror.
Hmm see a trend? MS doesn't have a whole lot of original ideas, and now they are upset cause someone else has done what they have done only better, in some areas.
MS says their is no R&D in opensource, I say that is malarky! In R&D you find the need then fill it. In open source someone sees a need and then creates a project and fills it. Apache, Mozilla/Netscape, Abiword, GNOME/KDE, blackbox, etc. They all saw a need and filled it.
This is just MS taking advantage of Linux being put in a bad light. Truth is that the only reason they care about IP is greed.
BINGO! This is exactly my point. When they are the managers it is harder to get rid of them then for them to get rid of you.
I have done that too. The thing that you missed is that you were BOTH in the office and were able to talk very easily. With telecommuting, how do you get people to use AIM or something like that? How do you get management, who does not want to spend money on conference calls, to buy video cams or any collaborative software?? How do you manage someone who works remotely where there is only communication via phone call direct or email? Some people here have mentioned solutions, but more often managers that barely can manage people in an office are surely not going to manage people remoetly effectivly.
I think you missed the point of my post. My point is that it is harder for a manager to manage remote people than to manage people in an office. That is just a fact! If someone is in the office, you know EXACTLY what time they come in, what time they leave and what they do, when they are away from their desk and you can monitor their internet habbits easier, (filters on fierwall and logging) as well as require them to come to those useless meetings. Managers can 'see' productivity.
When you get into outsourcing thing, there is someone else to do the manageing, of the remote group. It is not one person, it is a group, that is in a remote office. Managers like dealing with other managers and have less problems with this kind of setup.
I'm not saying that it is right, I'm saying that is what happens.
no windows interoperability. There is no free plugin that works with Outlook. This is a problem is you want to get ride of exchange / msmail server and replace it with this, cause then you have to PAY for a connector to this. So then is it really worth it to management when they already have a licensed peice of software that works? Not in my company. yes there is a web frontend to it, but that is NOT a solution. This is close and if you can pull off an entirely linux / unix installbase then you are okay, but when your flagship product runs windows and management wont let the dev team rewrite it, your glued to windows.
IT is going the way of the auto industry. Now that many big companies see that they can get a software product from other countries cheaper they do.
Telecommuting is vastly different. I don't like telecommuters. One or two days a week is okay, but any more becomes more of a hastle. Many peoplw will take advantage of this and work none standard hours or work to many hours to get stuff done, or work to few. I am working on a project now and 3 of the members work at home. One guy in the office created an object. At the same time one guy who was telecommuting created a similar object. Both do essentially the same thing. Had they both been in the office they probably would have talked about this and only one would have implemented it. Had management been more interactive they probably would have found out through a conference call. Problem is that managers in the US don't want to manage either, they want to make money and they don't care how it gets done. Most big companies don't give a rats a** about you working at home in your underware, or nude or even in your cube at the office, they want to make money, PERIOD. If they can get decent work out of someone overseas as compared to you for less which do you think they are going to pick?
If all you want is a hamburger are you going to go and buy the $6 hamburger every day or are you going to get 2 x $1 hamburgers that will work just as well? If both will fill your tummy, and both taste like burgers, most people will go for the 2 x $1 burgers, thinking 'they are getting a deal'. Well think of yourself as the $6 buger and outsourcing as the 2x$1 burger. Most people go for the 2x$1 dollar burgers and save themself $4 in the process. Sorry but thats the way it is!
The auto and manufacturing industries have gone the same way. Its okay to buy clothes that were made in Mexico by some child, cause it cost you less in the US. It doesn't really matter which car you bought, cause many of the parts are made OUTSIDE the US. Just go to auto makers web site and see how many companies are actually 1 company. A Ford pickup and Mazda pickup are the same truck, just with different labels on them, and there are MANY cars like that.
You have to be able to do the following: 1) open the device; 2) close the device; 3) read from the device; 4) write to the device.
Go here (it has info on this): http://tldp.org/LDP/khg/HyperNews/get/devices/devi ces.html
Basically there is already USB support in the kernel, so you would need to start there. There are many supporting funcitons. Good luck.
I don't understand why people, especially legislators of any country spend their time on this stuff.
no problem, I've been coding JS before there was DOM in Netscape, so I am used to the docuement.write() I am slowly moving to the DOM model on my website and work, but also want to keep some compatibility with older browsers, that don't do DOM / JS very well.
I know, I am the poster ;-)
Interesting, so what made you post first and ask slashdot, then search for JS libraries? Just out of curiousity. I always 'google it'.
I am checking out the library, it is very cool. I just downloaded it now. It uses the DOM, and basically implements a mkDiv() function that does what my document.write does, only it does all the calculations first and creates the HTML string and THEN writes the data. I just tried this out with a modified version of my example and it works bit faster.
If you go with this lib, it would probably be best to stick to 1 graph or 2 graphs per page. Also I'd do bar graphs over pie whereever possible, it may increase the speed of the draring. In using bar graphs if you have 5 'peices' you could then use only 5 divs and just vary their size. In the pie / circle you end up with however many divs it takes to create a circle of that size. Good luck.
function drawCircle(r, x, y) {
maxx = (2 * r) + x;
maxy = (2 * r) + y;
for (j = x-r; j<(2*r)+x;j++ ) {
s = Math.round(100*Math.sin(j)) + x;
c = Math.round(100*Math.cos(j)) + y;
document.write('<div style=border:solid;border-width:1px;border-color:
document.write(s);
document.write(';left:');
document.write(c);
document.write(';></div>');
}
}
At that point the question becomes a matter of algorythms.
EG: create a style sheet that creates a div with a border. Change the height on this and add in absolute positioning and you now have a bar graph. Data could be sent to the client in a a set of JavaScript arrays (one for X, one for Y or 2 d array). Create a few functions for A controlling layout and B controlling size and tada you have pretty client side graphs and charts without a plugin. Will work pretty nicely on above mentioned browsers too.
Of course when caldera bought SCO, who didn't see the code going both ways? I'm sure the Linux Kernel Personality that was added into SCO doesn't contain any Linux code (yeah right).
Okay, I kinda expected this to happen. The question now is which files are tainted? Then who needs to recode them, SCO or Linux?
Since Caldera did not have source code control or a policy in place on this and THEY released the code (albiet unkowingly probably) doesn't it still falls under the GPL? Does SCO have any claim on any of the code?
I'm not sure, but is it possible to run VMware remotely? It may be a way to give remote desktops to people that could be cheaper than Cytrix or tarantilla? Not sure if that is the plan I don't live in Munich.
If you support several platforms then you have to package differently for each and maintain for each. If you have a home grown system like us we have one system that works on all the platforms we support and it is easier to deal with. Basically it is a set of bourne shell scripts to untar our stuff from cd to disk and setup a few things on the system like in teh /etc dir.
First action is usually a rejection on something, but not always. Could be language / semantics, or something. Could also be peior art if the examiner finds any.
The second action is then the final rejection or allowance. This needs to be based on the first action, so if the first action was a rejection on language then the second action is usually an allowance. If the first action was based on prior art and the art was good then it is usually a rejection. Most stuff is never black and white, there are some 65million colors that most patents fall into.
If you go back and forth more than 2 times on any patent then you spin your wheels as a patent examiner, and don't get credit for a third or fourth action if you have to do more than 2 actions on a patent. Thus if you don't find anything in a period of time, then you have to allow it.
As you get promoted in the patent office, you are expected to do MORE actions. So if you start out as a GS7 you have 4 actions about every 2 weeks. When you become a GS9 it is 5-1/2 actions about every two weeks. (GS is goverment job scale ratings. ) It was like that when I was there and I doubt it has changed much. The actual number of actions may not be 100% correct but it is close enough that anyone with an IQ smarter than a tomato plant can get the general idea.