which is exactly why I said evidence so far is pointing to this view not that it has ever been proven. Again the idea that as new information comes about I will gladly and without question change my belief.
Why would god kill off an entire species (say T-Rex)? Could it be that this infallible "god" made a mistake?
Personally I don't think either side has it right, possibly not even close, but I don't think the creationist way of trying to avoid new information like the plague being the right way to find out.
I can't speak for all of them but as an evolutionist of sorts, if the facts (again whatever that means) came down to a creationist then yes I would automagically believe. That is why I am an evolutionist. The information we have found points to this world view. People holding onto the ideals of a book mostly written 1500 years ago and blindly abiding by it's teaching without looking around to see if things contradict it is a fools life, in my opinion.
OK, how many of those people would give to the poor out of the kindness of their heart if it wasn't going to drop them down to the next lower tax bracket? 10% of them, maybe. Of course it is government helping the poor. The government is giving up taxed income in order to redirect it to the poor, or at least a charitable organization that is suppose to be a representative of the poorer class.
Gnome is a lot more than just a desktop. It is also a development platform. What you see when you install gnome is only a small part of what there actually is.
Ummm, wouldn't tax deductions for charitable contributions be, by definition, the government helping the poor? It sounds to me like they are saying that rich should help the poor out of the kindness of their hearts and moral obligation rather than for a tax credit. Yea right like that's going to happen.
I'm just waiting for the "SCO provides proff that 88% of Linux source code stolen directly from Original UNIX. SCO also provides complete contract signed by every exec from Novell saying they have 100% code owner ship and Novell has squat" story.
> Please note that security updates for "unstable" > distribution are not managed by the security team. > Hence, "unstable" does not get security updates in > a timely manner.
You'd be taking risk to run Sid on a production box. Meanwhile it's not that up-to-date. I heard it got XFree86 4.3 really really late.
Which is why I run a Debian stable firewall between my single user sid desktop and the internet.
Debian stable also runs on a restricted set of hardware compared with a lot of distros. We spent weeks trying to make it run on a standard DELL to run a forge server. No luck, had to revert to RHEL.
this can very much be a problem. Although Kernel specific and due to the changing nature of x86 hardware. Debian actually supports more types of hardware than all the other major distributions combined. I have run Debian proper personally on StrongARM iPAQ, SparcII, x86, and Alpha. That is only 4 of the 11 platforms supported.
As for testing, it's for testing. Compared to RH it feels like RH7.3
feels like? I'm not sure what that means. It feels more like Debian Stable with the ocasinal apt problems associated with packages being upgraded rather than just bug/security fixed.
Apt-get is great but a real bummer if you are stil on dialup. Who would like to lug around 9 CDs or wait for hours for the.deb to download?
What is the option in any other distribution that gets around this? 99% of the common used applications are on the first 2-3 cds. I don't know of any distribution that magicly somehow give you software without carrying cds or downloading it off the internet.
Debian is great, don't get me wrong. We will always have Debian, and this makes me all warm and fuzzy, but it doesn't solve all the Linux problems.
Debian doesn't solve all the Linux problems. It does have a focus more where I belive it should be though. Moving out of the release schedual and more tords an ever expanding and morphing system. It is comming, there will be a day when Debian is realased more as snapshots rather than full fleged releases the way they are today.
(sorry about spelling I am too lazy to spell check right now and just in a typing hurry.)
exactly I love the mozilla way of doing it. having a basic configuration utility with common configs then having the about:config url that will let you configure all the 1000s of options for the more advanced users.
Exactly why developers shouldn't be systems admins. all too often source tar balls put things in the most f-ed up places. Atleast when I install a pre packaged debian supplyed.deb that it will fit to the system layout. conf files, documentation, binaries, and libs will all be in the expected places and not where the programmer thought about putting them. Some programmers would rather just run everything out of your home directory.
What is a known good source? the original CD? Most have several Known exploits. the original CD + updates, still going to be unpatched holes in there somewhere. They need a complete re-evaluation of security practices in order to insure all holes are either closed or inaccessable. I'd of thought the Gnome sysadmin team would be on top of this kind of stuff with proper patching, firewall/DMZ, IDS, and other security options. Either they are and best prractices failed or they are lacking at something.
unplug the battery cable for 30 seconds then hook it back up, computer reset no codes. I had to do this on my old car when the check engine light came on. I went to autozone had the codes run he said it was multiple miss fires on cylender 3 and 4 and that I should change the spark plugs. I checked my records and it had been almost 50k miles sense the last change so I swapped them out for new ones did the batter trick and everything was fine. total cost ~$15
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which is exactly why I said evidence so far is pointing to this view not that it has ever been proven. Again the idea that as new information comes about I will gladly and without question change my belief.
Why would god kill off an entire species (say T-Rex)? Could it be that this infallible "god" made a mistake?
Personally I don't think either side has it right, possibly not even close, but I don't think the creationist way of trying to avoid new information like the plague being the right way to find out.
I can't speak for all of them but as an evolutionist of sorts, if the facts (again whatever that means) came down to a creationist then yes I would automagically believe. That is why I am an evolutionist. The information we have found points to this world view. People holding onto the ideals of a book mostly written 1500 years ago and blindly abiding by it's teaching without looking around to see if things contradict it is a fools life, in my opinion.
The price of hardware has come down so much that it is far less than the cost of the OS to get the hardware
pricewatch
Ack!! A MicroSoft spy!!!!!!! Theo look out.
These Lindows people think they can come along and trample on the good Microsft name......pweahhhahaha ok I can't even say that without laughing.
Hehehehe you spoke of a business descion and "long run" in the same post.
OK, how many of those people would give to the poor out of the kindness of their heart if it wasn't going to drop them down to the next lower tax bracket? 10% of them, maybe. Of course it is government helping the poor. The government is giving up taxed income in order to redirect it to the poor, or at least a charitable organization that is suppose to be a representative of the poorer class.
yes it will:
http://gpe.handhelds.org/
Gnome is a lot more than just a desktop. It is also a development platform. What you see when you install gnome is only a small part of what there actually is.
Ummm, wouldn't tax deductions for charitable contributions be, by definition, the government helping the poor? It sounds to me like they are saying that rich should help the poor out of the kindness of their hearts and moral obligation rather than for a tax credit. Yea right like that's going to happen.
getting 42 as the answer is the easy part, only took a few thousand years. it's calculating the questiong that is going to be the tuff one.
self forfilling post
What? Like in the back of a Volkswagon?
I'm just waiting for the "SCO provides proff that 88% of Linux source code stolen directly from Original UNIX. SCO also provides complete contract signed by every exec from Novell saying they have 100% code owner ship and Novell has squat" story.
From the Debian site, front page:
.deb to download?
> Please note that security updates for "unstable"
> distribution are not managed by the security team.
> Hence, "unstable" does not get security updates in > a timely manner.
You'd be taking risk to run Sid on a production box. Meanwhile it's not that up-to-date. I heard it got XFree86 4.3 really really late.
Which is why I run a Debian stable firewall between my single user sid desktop and the internet.
Debian stable also runs on a restricted set of hardware compared with a lot of distros. We spent weeks trying to make it run on a standard DELL to run a forge server. No luck, had to revert to RHEL.
this can very much be a problem. Although Kernel specific and due to the changing nature of x86 hardware. Debian actually supports more types of hardware than all the other major distributions combined. I have run Debian proper personally on StrongARM iPAQ, SparcII, x86, and Alpha. That is only 4 of the 11 platforms supported.
As for testing, it's for testing. Compared to RH it feels like RH7.3
feels like? I'm not sure what that means. It feels more like Debian Stable with the ocasinal apt problems associated with packages being upgraded rather than just bug/security fixed.
Apt-get is great but a real bummer if you are stil on dialup. Who would like to lug around 9 CDs or wait for hours for the
What is the option in any other distribution that gets around this? 99% of the common used applications are on the first 2-3 cds. I don't know of any distribution that magicly somehow give you software without carrying cds or downloading it off the internet.
Debian is great, don't get me wrong. We will always have Debian, and this makes me all warm and fuzzy, but it doesn't solve all the Linux problems.
Debian doesn't solve all the Linux problems. It does have a focus more where I belive it should be though. Moving out of the release schedual and more tords an ever expanding and morphing system. It is comming, there will be a day when Debian is realased more as snapshots rather than full fleged releases the way they are today.
(sorry about spelling I am too lazy to spell check right now and just in a typing hurry.)
exactly I love the mozilla way of doing it. having a basic configuration utility with common configs then having the about:config url that will let you configure all the 1000s of options for the more advanced users.
Exactly why developers shouldn't be systems admins. all too often source tar balls put things in the most f-ed up places. Atleast when I install a pre packaged debian supplyed .deb that it will fit to the system layout. conf files, documentation, binaries, and libs will all be in the expected places and not where the programmer thought about putting them. Some programmers would rather just run everything out of your home directory.
Please show me a company managed Linux distro that is more stable than Debian Stable. I'll promise to try it
Or more up to date than Debian Sid. Or a better compromise of the two than debian testing.
They aren't and never were. They employeed monopolistic practices which is illegal.
What is a known good source? the original CD? Most have several Known exploits. the original CD + updates, still going to be unpatched holes in there somewhere. They need a complete re-evaluation of security practices in order to insure all holes are either closed or inaccessable. I'd of thought the Gnome sysadmin team would be on top of this kind of stuff with proper patching, firewall/DMZ, IDS, and other security options. Either they are and best prractices failed or they are lacking at something.
Of course even a reinstall still leaves the original hole open that the attacker used in the first place.
Re-installation of the OS from media
What if the OS has a vulnribility and the attacker can get back in without issues?
a backup from a time known before the break-in
What if the attacker had installed the back door months before hand? You may not have a valid backup.
2 accedents in how many billions of miles? seems like a good record to me.
great unless you don't speak or read english.
Ohh yea >:)
unplug the battery cable for 30 seconds then hook it back up, computer reset no codes. I had to do this on my old car when the check engine light came on. I went to autozone had the codes run he said it was multiple miss fires on cylender 3 and 4 and that I should change the spark plugs. I checked my records and it had been almost 50k miles sense the last change so I swapped them out for new ones did the batter trick and everything was fine. total cost ~$15