Ideally there would be a tiny hypervisor that would allow you to switch between concurrent native Windows and OS X environments, perhaps with enough windowing capability that the displays for each could be scaled/tiled/etc, as well as allocating CPU/memory and other hardware resources.
In 7th grade I got a week's detention for punching a kid who had hit me all the way down the hall; I finally figured at the end of the hall I was at the end of my rope and hitting was the only option I had, but the principal gave us both the same amount of detention. I didn't get it then and I don't get it now.
I think we're in the state we're in for a whole bunch of reasons. I think integration has made it extremely difficult to expell students since school administrators always face the race card, and since they don't want to face reverse discrimination claims from more affluent (read better-lawyered)white students, they have to be equally tolerant with all the kids.
I also think that schools are literally drowning under their self-assigned social welfare burden. Even if they could kick kids out arbitrarily, they wouldn't, they're hooked on the idea that they have an "obligation" to help the worst off kids. It's a noble idea, but the school system doesn't do a very good job of supporting it's educational mission, let alone the added weight of the social welfare agenda -- even if the social welfare agenda was capable of solving the social welfare problems it tries to address.
I personally think that kids who are chronically disruptive to the learning environment should be expelled, period. Education should be a privilege, like driving.
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IMHO the ideal situation is using Intel's VT, booting one or both operating systems natively on the same CPU, especially if the hypervisor can be made so that the partitions can be adjusted as needed -- a "whole system" partition for solo-booting an OS, a fat/skinny combo, a 50/50 combo, etc.
I'd personally be able to live with a VMWare-type setup under a host OS, but for me the host OS would have to be Windows just for work reasons.
I guess to each his own on the IR blasters, I think they work surprisingly well.
But even if Tivo released a box that was ONLY different because of CableCard support (ie, no HD, no digital audio), I'd be sorely tempted to buy it.
But the same is true of a number of other critical hardware features. I probably would have bought at least one new box along the way to S3 units if Tivo had released one with new features.
What's particularly annoying about recording HD channels with S2 Tivos is the way the HD cable box downrezzes the HD signal; I get forced letterboxing. I really wish that there was an anamorphic widescreen analog output. I can zoom the letterboxed picture on my Tivo, but since its recorded in SD the picture loses a lot.
I think one of Tivo's biggest blunders was a failure to deliver a churn of new hardware every 12-18 months that diehards like me would have been willing to invest in.
I can think of a number of incremental features -- digital audio recording/playback, CableCard 1.0 -- that I would have been willing to upgrade to if it had been available on new boxes. And those are obvious, problem-solving upgrades (digital audio from your cable box fed into a hifi is out of sync with the video output from the TV, CableCard of course eliminates IR blaster and cable box without losing pay and digital channels).
This doesn't include other hardware options like USB/1394 disk expansion, built-in 10/100/1000 network cards, component output, etc.
I'm glad they're coming out with S3 units that solve all the real technology hurdles (HD, cablecard), but I'm baffled why they wait so long to give people an option to buy something.
But only in Western countries -- and largely due to their acceptance of rational family planning and rejection of religious messages which reject birth control and promote "going forth and multiplying".
In non-Western countries which still cling to ancient/tribal/religious/supertitions, population growth continues unchecked, aided and abetted by well-intentioned charity programs that mitigate natural balancers like disease, pestilence and famine.
As they say in medicine, the dose makes the poison, and burning coal, oil or whatever isn't really such a problem unless you've got 6-8-10 billion people participating in it.
There's no way that we can sustain the growth of our current global population and I'm not entirely sure we can sustain our existing population. I can't help but think that the global strife we're experiencing now isn't just a side effect of too many people sharing the same space.
I'm stunned by how often I see posting here that show a very, very unsophisticated view of how journalism and news organizations operate.
I'm not. One, it's a tech site, and a lot of tech people don't have a lot of in-depth knowledge outside of their area of expertise (which is true of any group of experts). Two, the readership here skews very young, and ignorance is one of youth's curses. (And I fully expect -1 moderation from all the young people who presume they're experts).
More generally, I think a lot of bloggers want it both ways. They want to be able to operate without the constraints of traditional journalism (fact checking, multiple sources, attribution, etc), yet they want to command the same stature that traditional journalists have, and have largely because of the constraints placed on journalism.
Traditional journalists are due some of their criticism. Sloppy reporting and editing (how many fiascos at the NYTimes and CBS in the last 18 months?), a willingness to allow themselves to become "part of" the power establishments they're supposed to be reporting on and all the attendent credibility problems that leads to.
I see your point, but the analogy seems to break down for me because a car (or anything else I'd win from the Lutherans) is a physical thing that has "real" value.
I still think you would need to realize the value from your "work" before you'd be able to consider it earnings. I may be able to build something at home that is really valuable, but until I actually sell it for dollars, I don't have to pay taxes on it.
If you play a game and get in-game "e-gold", and that e-gold has value outside the game (as it does in this case) then the IRS may well consider the e-gold taxable income in the amount it could be sold for in real world money - whether you actually ever sell it or not.
Don't you have to realize (ie, cash in) the value of an investment before it's considered taxable income? It's not like I can go down to the Bentley dealership and buy a new car with e-gold.
If I buy stocks and hold them, they can go up in value without me having to pay taxes, unless I sell them. Same with real estate, art and many other items.
I've never worked anywhere where IT policies like "no unauthorized software" were actually enforced. Hell, I've had HR people tell me they "won't" back terminations based on those policy violations because they're not severe enough. And if you're not firing people, you're not enforcing anything.
I know one guy who got shitcanned for it, but he was a prick and HIS boss came to me looking for some additional crap to throw at him and I suggested "Oh, how about the three system rebuilds we've done due to his software installs in the last six months" -- this just got tossed in as "wasting time."
Anyway, it's all well and good to say "enforce the policy" but most people outside of IT seek to usurp it at worst or at least treat it like yet another tech-geek OCD symptom.
I think this is coded speech for "steering more ignorant consumers to advertisers."
MS is almost never about building a quality product That Just Works first, and then making money off of the quality. They always put Making A Buck first and quality someplace after that. Google seems to be largley the opposite -- that make a quality product people want to use, then figure out how to make money off it.
While I don't doubt that there are bright people working on MS search engine, their desire to produce a good search will always get subliminated to the business managers profit quotas.
Us old farts never had laptops and frankly I wouldn't want one. Laptops invite too many distractions and even if you focus 100% on note taking, there's often too much of a temptation to get involved in spellchecking or formatting.
A good friend of mine is a college professor and he is forbidden from banning them from class (he did so as long as possible until the department head said he no longer could). In his experience, the kids with laptops instead of paper notebooks and pens generally get worse grades and are less engaged in class (he picks them specifically when asking questions of the class, and easily spots those who aren't paying attention). When asking for voluntary responses from the class, he generally choses paper note takers since they tend to be more engaged in the class and provide more interesting commentary.
Another benefit of paper notebooks is they don't break (physically or software-wise) and I could keep an entire year's in my bag for less weight than a laptop.
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or did you mean bootable *Microsoft* OSs on removable drives?
No shit, Sherlock. A post about removable disk support in a Windows Vista story and you're giving me Linux?
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You can now if you count BartPE as "booting windows" and even in a PE environment it doesn't always work. You cannot boot a normal XP session from USB, and AFAIK the reason is that when XP initializes the USB stack it basically clobbers itself.
I don't think boot from USB was an option for any motherboard until pretty recently (certainly post XP release).
Unfortunately if you could boot Vitsa from USB, you probably couldn't produce an install smaller than 4 GB, which is where most USB flash disks stop in size. I'm sure somebody makes something that will take multiple CF cards or something, but at that point a notebook enclosure is a better option.
I just wish there was a "real" XP install you could do in under 4GB. My job would be a lot easier.
Ie, able to participate in RAID sets and/or upgradable to dynamic disks, or (praying real hard) maybe as bootable volumes? I would wet my pants for a bootable OS on a removable drive.
Point is, you can imagine more buyer's remorse with MS's plan. Did I buy more features than I need? Did I shortchange myself features that I will eventually use? If you wanted to be alarmist, you might even argue that this arrangement promotes piracy, as curious or disgruntled customers want to see "what they're missing" with other Vista flavors, or feel "justified" in pirating another flavor after having invested a sizable amount in some less satisfactory flavor.
I think you're right in regard to piracy, particularly when the salient operational details of the specific OS versions come into play. If it turns out that the version I really should be running (based on features, performance, etc) is one that is less expensive or equal cost to the one I bought, even the most ethically aware people may claim that they may be running a pirated version but because they actually purchased a version of greater or equal cost that they are entitled to keep using their pirated version, and that any of Microsoft's claims that they are not are mutable because Microsoft obfuscated the choices.
I personally think the only reason that they are offering so many choices is to force purchasers into multiple purchases of operating systems. The inexpensive version(s) will get bundled onto PCs because it improves the margins of the PC makers, but the more expensive versions will prove necessary for many users, forcing them to buy a second operating system. The lack of functionality and the lack of transferrability of the original operating systems to other computers will eliminate any secondary market for them.
In the end, I think Microsoft will see *more* piracy, not less. What I can't understand is why they don't offer just one version of the operating system and charge a single price. I can only imagine it would greatly streamline their own business as well as eliminate much of ensuing confusion.
People stayed away from the orginal drives not because they were worried about the formats, but because the drives themselves were so hideously expensive, highly impractical and used media that cost $5-10 each. Not to mention the paucity of software for mastering DVDs that didn't require overnight MPEG2 render times on 800 Mhz P3s.
True. But what the IT industry really needs is another Syquest or Iomega to come along and define a storage-centric format -- without all the bullshit politics surrounding Hollywood and video game consoles, and the enormous license royalties involved.
Amen to this. Is anyone actually working in a removable media storage option (preferrably one not based on sluggish optical RW methods) that has usable quantities of storage (eg, 50-100 GB)? Disk drives have gotten cheap enough that they almost fulfill this, but they lack the sturdyness and portability one finds in cartridge-type assembly.
One benefit of a storage-centric format would be that entertainment recorder makers could then target it as a storage format, thus bypassing the a-camel-is-a-horse-designed-by-committee effect that seems to cripple other formats "designed" by DRM-mad entertainment industry folks.
With enough success, movie studios could then be lured to release their movies in the format that people showed some acceptance of.
How did they analyst explain the explosion in home video sales if the format war was to have shrunk the market by 90%?
I think the same holds true for recordable DVD media -- did anyone "stay away" for more than 5 minutes from the DVD recordable market? It struck me that the price of DVD writers for PCs and home-video recorders went from fairly expensive to nearly disposable in less than a year.
My guess is that "average"(1) early adopters may be put off by the appearance of a format war, but the general consumer really isn't, provided that the format war appears balanced and availability of both formats is roughly equal (such as -R/+R media), or there is a clear leader (VHS/betamax).
(1) As opposed to "specialist" early adopters who have a favorite and don't care about format wars, and will buy their preferred format in spite of the format war or its state (think Betamax fans).
That is naive. Industrial / Commercial espionage happens. Greedy, self-centered, immoral people exist at all levels of companies. "Good" companies get screwed just like "good" employees.
This is just a little cynical, isn't it? Obviously there are certain kinds of trade secrets or valuable personal data (banking, financial, etc) that are vulnerable to theft and this information is supposedly protected for that reason.
But the idea that employees who are treated with fairness and dignity are less likely to to damage to the workplace seems to be common sense. Rejecting this notion outright just seems like a crude justification to treat employees poorly since "some people are bad".
I'm trying to see why Apple would care if you dual-booted another OS on their hardware. The opposite situation, booting OS X on generic x86 hardware, I can understand their opposition.
You would think that if dual booting was possible, Apple would sell a lot more machines, especially to people like me who support them 5-10% of our time, but can only really justify one platform (I do keep an old, Blue & White that has been upgraded with a G4 CPU, but it's just too painful to use except when it's a necessity).
Enterprise was updated from 2.1 to 2.5 in November, and it's been an utter disaster for us (resellers).
We've had to uninstall it at about half the sites and Webroot's SE who came to town while helpful, obviously wasn't able to fix what is fundamentally broken software.
I've found one of the better combinations for eliminating stuff is booting to safe mode and scanning with both MS AntiSpyware and Kaspersky. Ideally I remove the disk and jack it into a USB enclosure and scan it as if it was a passive data drive.
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Ideally there would be a tiny hypervisor that would allow you to switch between concurrent native Windows and OS X environments, perhaps with enough windowing capability that the displays for each could be scaled/tiled/etc, as well as allocating CPU/memory and other hardware resources.
In 7th grade I got a week's detention for punching a kid who had hit me all the way down the hall; I finally figured at the end of the hall I was at the end of my rope and hitting was the only option I had, but the principal gave us both the same amount of detention. I didn't get it then and I don't get it now.
I think we're in the state we're in for a whole bunch of reasons. I think integration has made it extremely difficult to expell students since school administrators always face the race card, and since they don't want to face reverse discrimination claims from more affluent (read better-lawyered)white students, they have to be equally tolerant with all the kids.
I also think that schools are literally drowning under their self-assigned social welfare burden. Even if they could kick kids out arbitrarily, they wouldn't, they're hooked on the idea that they have an "obligation" to help the worst off kids. It's a noble idea, but the school system doesn't do a very good job of supporting it's educational mission, let alone the added weight of the social welfare agenda -- even if the social welfare agenda was capable of solving the social welfare problems it tries to address.
I personally think that kids who are chronically disruptive to the learning environment should be expelled, period. Education should be a privilege, like driving.
IMHO the ideal situation is using Intel's VT, booting one or both operating systems natively on the same CPU, especially if the hypervisor can be made so that the partitions can be adjusted as needed -- a "whole system" partition for solo-booting an OS, a fat/skinny combo, a 50/50 combo, etc.
I'd personally be able to live with a VMWare-type setup under a host OS, but for me the host OS would have to be Windows just for work reasons.
I guess to each his own on the IR blasters, I think they work surprisingly well.
But even if Tivo released a box that was ONLY different because of CableCard support (ie, no HD, no digital audio), I'd be sorely tempted to buy it.
But the same is true of a number of other critical hardware features. I probably would have bought at least one new box along the way to S3 units if Tivo had released one with new features.
What's particularly annoying about recording HD channels with S2 Tivos is the way the HD cable box downrezzes the HD signal; I get forced letterboxing. I really wish that there was an anamorphic widescreen analog output. I can zoom the letterboxed picture on my Tivo, but since its recorded in SD the picture loses a lot.
I think one of Tivo's biggest blunders was a failure to deliver a churn of new hardware every 12-18 months that diehards like me would have been willing to invest in.
I can think of a number of incremental features -- digital audio recording/playback, CableCard 1.0 -- that I would have been willing to upgrade to if it had been available on new boxes. And those are obvious, problem-solving upgrades (digital audio from your cable box fed into a hifi is out of sync with the video output from the TV, CableCard of course eliminates IR blaster and cable box without losing pay and digital channels).
This doesn't include other hardware options like USB/1394 disk expansion, built-in 10/100/1000 network cards, component output, etc.
I'm glad they're coming out with S3 units that solve all the real technology hurdles (HD, cablecard), but I'm baffled why they wait so long to give people an option to buy something.
But only in Western countries -- and largely due to their acceptance of rational family planning and rejection of religious messages which reject birth control and promote "going forth and multiplying".
In non-Western countries which still cling to ancient/tribal/religious/supertitions, population growth continues unchecked, aided and abetted by well-intentioned charity programs that mitigate natural balancers like disease, pestilence and famine.
As they say in medicine, the dose makes the poison, and burning coal, oil or whatever isn't really such a problem unless you've got 6-8-10 billion people participating in it.
There's no way that we can sustain the growth of our current global population and I'm not entirely sure we can sustain our existing population. I can't help but think that the global strife we're experiencing now isn't just a side effect of too many people sharing the same space.
I'm stunned by how often I see posting here that show a very, very unsophisticated view of how journalism and news organizations operate.
I'm not. One, it's a tech site, and a lot of tech people don't have a lot of in-depth knowledge outside of their area of expertise (which is true of any group of experts). Two, the readership here skews very young, and ignorance is one of youth's curses. (And I fully expect -1 moderation from all the young people who presume they're experts).
More generally, I think a lot of bloggers want it both ways. They want to be able to operate without the constraints of traditional journalism (fact checking, multiple sources, attribution, etc), yet they want to command the same stature that traditional journalists have, and have largely because of the constraints placed on journalism.
Traditional journalists are due some of their criticism. Sloppy reporting and editing (how many fiascos at the NYTimes and CBS in the last 18 months?), a willingness to allow themselves to become "part of" the power establishments they're supposed to be reporting on and all the attendent credibility problems that leads to.
I see your point, but the analogy seems to break down for me because a car (or anything else I'd win from the Lutherans) is a physical thing that has "real" value.
I still think you would need to realize the value from your "work" before you'd be able to consider it earnings. I may be able to build something at home that is really valuable, but until I actually sell it for dollars, I don't have to pay taxes on it.
If you play a game and get in-game "e-gold", and that e-gold has value outside the game (as it does in this case) then the IRS may well consider the e-gold taxable income in the amount it could be sold for in real world money - whether you actually ever sell it or not.
Don't you have to realize (ie, cash in) the value of an investment before it's considered taxable income? It's not like I can go down to the Bentley dealership and buy a new car with e-gold.
If I buy stocks and hold them, they can go up in value without me having to pay taxes, unless I sell them. Same with real estate, art and many other items.
I've never worked anywhere where IT policies like "no unauthorized software" were actually enforced. Hell, I've had HR people tell me they "won't" back terminations based on those policy violations because they're not severe enough. And if you're not firing people, you're not enforcing anything.
I know one guy who got shitcanned for it, but he was a prick and HIS boss came to me looking for some additional crap to throw at him and I suggested "Oh, how about the three system rebuilds we've done due to his software installs in the last six months" -- this just got tossed in as "wasting time."
Anyway, it's all well and good to say "enforce the policy" but most people outside of IT seek to usurp it at worst or at least treat it like yet another tech-geek OCD symptom.
I think this is coded speech for "steering more ignorant consumers to advertisers."
MS is almost never about building a quality product That Just Works first, and then making money off of the quality. They always put Making A Buck first and quality someplace after that. Google seems to be largley the opposite -- that make a quality product people want to use, then figure out how to make money off it.
While I don't doubt that there are bright people working on MS search engine, their desire to produce a good search will always get subliminated to the business managers profit quotas.
Three 80 page spiral notebooks, narrow ruled per trimester, three trimesters per year.
More bulk than a laptop, but less mass. On a per-trimester basis, it was less bulk and less mass.
Us old farts never had laptops and frankly I wouldn't want one. Laptops invite too many distractions and even if you focus 100% on note taking, there's often too much of a temptation to get involved in spellchecking or formatting.
A good friend of mine is a college professor and he is forbidden from banning them from class (he did so as long as possible until the department head said he no longer could). In his experience, the kids with laptops instead of paper notebooks and pens generally get worse grades and are less engaged in class (he picks them specifically when asking questions of the class, and easily spots those who aren't paying attention). When asking for voluntary responses from the class, he generally choses paper note takers since they tend to be more engaged in the class and provide more interesting commentary.
Another benefit of paper notebooks is they don't break (physically or software-wise) and I could keep an entire year's in my bag for less weight than a laptop.
or did you mean bootable *Microsoft* OSs on removable drives?
No shit, Sherlock. A post about removable disk support in a Windows Vista story and you're giving me Linux?
You can now if you count BartPE as "booting windows" and even in a PE environment it doesn't always work. You cannot boot a normal XP session from USB, and AFAIK the reason is that when XP initializes the USB stack it basically clobbers itself.
I don't think boot from USB was an option for any motherboard until pretty recently (certainly post XP release).
Unfortunately if you could boot Vitsa from USB, you probably couldn't produce an install smaller than 4 GB, which is where most USB flash disks stop in size. I'm sure somebody makes something that will take multiple CF cards or something, but at that point a notebook enclosure is a better option.
I just wish there was a "real" XP install you could do in under 4GB. My job would be a lot easier.
Ie, able to participate in RAID sets and/or upgradable to dynamic disks, or (praying real hard) maybe as bootable volumes? I would wet my pants for a bootable OS on a removable drive.
Point is, you can imagine more buyer's remorse with MS's plan. Did I buy more features than I need? Did I shortchange myself features that I will eventually use? If you wanted to be alarmist, you might even argue that this arrangement promotes piracy, as curious or disgruntled customers want to see "what they're missing" with other Vista flavors, or feel "justified" in pirating another flavor after having invested a sizable amount in some less satisfactory flavor.
I think you're right in regard to piracy, particularly when the salient operational details of the specific OS versions come into play. If it turns out that the version I really should be running (based on features, performance, etc) is one that is less expensive or equal cost to the one I bought, even the most ethically aware people may claim that they may be running a pirated version but because they actually purchased a version of greater or equal cost that they are entitled to keep using their pirated version, and that any of Microsoft's claims that they are not are mutable because Microsoft obfuscated the choices.
I personally think the only reason that they are offering so many choices is to force purchasers into multiple purchases of operating systems. The inexpensive version(s) will get bundled onto PCs because it improves the margins of the PC makers, but the more expensive versions will prove necessary for many users, forcing them to buy a second operating system. The lack of functionality and the lack of transferrability of the original operating systems to other computers will eliminate any secondary market for them.
In the end, I think Microsoft will see *more* piracy, not less. What I can't understand is why they don't offer just one version of the operating system and charge a single price. I can only imagine it would greatly streamline their own business as well as eliminate much of ensuing confusion.
People stayed away from the orginal drives not because they were worried about the formats, but because the drives themselves were so hideously expensive, highly impractical and used media that cost $5-10 each. Not to mention the paucity of software for mastering DVDs that didn't require overnight MPEG2 render times on 800 Mhz P3s.
True. But what the IT industry really needs is another Syquest or Iomega to come along and define a storage-centric format -- without all the bullshit politics surrounding Hollywood and video game consoles, and the enormous license royalties involved.
Amen to this. Is anyone actually working in a removable media storage option (preferrably one not based on sluggish optical RW methods) that has usable quantities of storage (eg, 50-100 GB)? Disk drives have gotten cheap enough that they almost fulfill this, but they lack the sturdyness and portability one finds in cartridge-type assembly.
One benefit of a storage-centric format would be that entertainment recorder makers could then target it as a storage format, thus bypassing the a-camel-is-a-horse-designed-by-committee effect that seems to cripple other formats "designed" by DRM-mad entertainment industry folks.
With enough success, movie studios could then be lured to release their movies in the format that people showed some acceptance of.
How did they analyst explain the explosion in home video sales if the format war was to have shrunk the market by 90%?
I think the same holds true for recordable DVD media -- did anyone "stay away" for more than 5 minutes from the DVD recordable market? It struck me that the price of DVD writers for PCs and home-video recorders went from fairly expensive to nearly disposable in less than a year.
My guess is that "average"(1) early adopters may be put off by the appearance of a format war, but the general consumer really isn't, provided that the format war appears balanced and availability of both formats is roughly equal (such as -R/+R media), or there is a clear leader (VHS/betamax).
(1) As opposed to "specialist" early adopters who have a favorite and don't care about format wars, and will buy their preferred format in spite of the format war or its state (think Betamax fans).
That is naive. Industrial / Commercial espionage happens. Greedy, self-centered, immoral people exist at all levels of companies. "Good" companies get screwed just like "good" employees.
This is just a little cynical, isn't it? Obviously there are certain kinds of trade secrets or valuable personal data (banking, financial, etc) that are vulnerable to theft and this information is supposedly protected for that reason.
But the idea that employees who are treated with fairness and dignity are less likely to to damage to the workplace seems to be common sense. Rejecting this notion outright just seems like a crude justification to treat employees poorly since "some people are bad".
Thanks. The article didn't make it clear if it was OSX on generic x86 or Windows on Macx86.
I'm trying to see why Apple would care if you dual-booted another OS on their hardware. The opposite situation, booting OS X on generic x86 hardware, I can understand their opposition.
You would think that if dual booting was possible, Apple would sell a lot more machines, especially to people like me who support them 5-10% of our time, but can only really justify one platform (I do keep an old, Blue & White that has been upgraded with a G4 CPU, but it's just too painful to use except when it's a necessity).
Enterprise was updated from 2.1 to 2.5 in November, and it's been an utter disaster for us (resellers).
We've had to uninstall it at about half the sites and Webroot's SE who came to town while helpful, obviously wasn't able to fix what is fundamentally broken software.
I've found one of the better combinations for eliminating stuff is booting to safe mode and scanning with both MS AntiSpyware and Kaspersky. Ideally I remove the disk and jack it into a USB enclosure and scan it as if it was a passive data drive.