"You must be unaware that Japan was about to surrender at the time of the attack."
Wrong. Through the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, the transcripts of all intercepted wartime Japanese Army, Navy and Dipolomatic transmissions have been available in complete and unredacted form for over a decade. These documents (known as "Magic" Dipolomatic Summary and "Magic" Far East Summary) show that -- as late as July 22, 1945 -- the official Japanese position was not surrender, but to fight to the finish. Add that to the huge military buildup in the Kyushu province of Japan, where their intelligence (accurately) predicted the Allies would invade and you don't really have a picture of a nation "about to surrender."
You/.ers must be mistaken. This morning I heard Paul Harvey clearly state that NASA was operating two rovers on opposite sides of the moon and that the rovers were using their robotic arms to examine moon rocks and soil samples. What's this Mars crap?
Monkeys leisurely using their hands to peel and eat bananas while using their brain-controlled robotic arms to pleasure themselves. An new twist on an old zoo favorite!
Having worked with Vignette, I wouldn't even put it in with these technologies. ASP, JSP, PHP & ColdFusion are really designed to create dynamic web applications, whereas Vignette is geared toward serving flat HTML pages through templates.
And don't even get me started about their use of TCL as the underlying language. I found their implementation of TCL almost entirely inadequate for all but the most basic if...thens. I even found TCL commands that would not work within Vignette... it didn't seem that the entire TCL language was supported.
I'm not bashing Vignette. It did quite well on the project I did, but I dont think it is anywhere close in flexibility to the technologies listed here.
Or, if you've been downloading too much off the local high-speed (2400 baud!) Warez BBS, "Your Amiga is alive..."
The "Amiga is alive" virus is my favorite destructive bug ever.
For the uninitiated (or those that just never owned an Amiga), a black screen would appear with green text fading in and out:
"Something wonderful has happened...
"Your Amiga is alive...
"And better yet...
"It has a virus..."
Then the ugliness occurs. The particular strain I had would (in addition to replicating itself) eat floppies and crash your system. Not that bad floppies were uncommon on the Amiga...
With my whopping 2.5 megs of ram I used to run a "sticky disk" in RAM of 880k. The disk stored system files in non-volatile memory.
The only reason I bring this up is that, if nothing else, the Amiga is a great source of inside jokes, like "Guru Meditation Errors" and "volatile memory"...
Bravo! I have to admit, Carnivore was a big factor in installing several encryption tools with the Mandrake 7.1 distro I've been toying with.
Hell, the reason I am making a concerted effort to learn the ins-and-outs of *nix and networking is so that, should the government's power ever impinge upon my access to the 'Net, I at least have a fighting chance to find and exploit a weakness.
OK... I'm now going to surf over to ZDNet and read their discussion forum on this... probably full of "only bad people need to worry" crap. People are so gullable...
While kinda neat in that geek sorta way, the whole thing still reeks of Society for Creative Anachronism members with too much time and technology at their disposal.
I too sorely miss the many happy days (and sleepless nights) spent hacking my Amiga, but my point is that I don't see the need to reincarnate the Amiga.
The reason the Amiga was so cool is because it was so different from anything that had come before. Today, the functions it did can be done on almost any platform. Your point about them not doing it as well or as "elegantly" as the Amiga is probably true, but I think community efforts to shape Linux or *BSD into a better tool are more useful than reinventing the Amiga's wheel.
I owned an Amiga 1000 in 1987. Back then it crushed any other machine like a grape when it came to multimedia and games. I even went on to buy an A500 and an A1200 AGA.
Today, I can do the same things (and much, much more) with Linux, Windows, Mac, Be, etc. Hell, I can even simulate any of those machines with UAE.
The Amiga had it's chance to rule the world and due (partly) to Commodore's incompetence missed its opportunity.
Please, dear fellows... let the Amiga rest in peace. Soil no further my memories of that great machine, and let her spirit join the pantheon of the great (?) machines of the past: the Sinclars, Apple ][s and the TRS-80s... the TI-99s and the Atari Jaguars...
Regardless of how lonely or impersonal it is, the real point is information access. Isn't the point of the LoC the preservation of knowledge for the public? Is there a better way to share that information with the widest possible audience then electronically? These folks are living on a different planet...
I have not been using Amazon since the One-Click debacle, but this situation made me mad enough to write this morning... "The patenting of your Affiliate Program is an outrageous misuse of patent law. Your One-Click suit against Barnes and Nobel angered me greatly, but this is the last straw. I will never again order from a company so insecure in its ability to compete in a free market that it feels the need to stifle competition via preemptive legal action. I almost wish someone had patented online transactions a few years back and sued YOU when you tried to reach consumers via the Internet, you lousy hypocrites."
The beautiful and ugly thing about open source is that this sort of thing can happen. Sure, a buncha "suits" can waltz in and do as they please, but if we don't like where they take us ("That's not where we want to go today"), we strike off in another direction. The code is out there for everyone. If "they" wish to use it to manifest their corporate black-magick, so be it. We don't have to use their products... we can build our own. We can VOTE WITH CODE.
...and the endless jabs about my stupid "./" typo.
v.m
Let the Great Flame War and endless stream of ./ articles begin...
v.m
Shocked to find gambling here in Casablanca!
...F-ing cool. I know this won't win me any mod points... just think it's great.
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You DON'T want a pager anyway. In my experience, when they give you one, you are expected to respond if it beeps.
I have a dual-layer burner and have been unable to find any DVD+R DL media. Kinda moots the whole point of the drive...
Anyone have a link to dual-layer blank DVD media?
I'm weeping on the inside.
You /.ers must be mistaken. This morning I heard Paul Harvey clearly state that NASA was operating two rovers on opposite sides of the moon and that the rovers were using their robotic arms to examine moon rocks and soil samples. What's this Mars crap?
What can we possibly learn from a buncha backwaters critters still interested in such a primitive form of communication as radio?
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What can THEY possibly learn from a buncha backwaters critters still interested in such a primitive form of communication as radio?
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Monkeys leisurely using their hands to peel and eat bananas while using their brain-controlled robotic arms to pleasure themselves. An new twist on an old zoo favorite!
And don't even get me started about their use of TCL as the underlying language. I found their implementation of TCL almost entirely inadequate for all but the most basic if...thens. I even found TCL commands that would not work within Vignette... it didn't seem that the entire TCL language was supported.
I'm not bashing Vignette. It did quite well on the project I did, but I dont think it is anywhere close in flexibility to the technologies listed here.
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
The "Amiga is alive" virus is my favorite destructive bug ever.
For the uninitiated (or those that just never owned an Amiga), a black screen would appear with green text fading in and out:
"Something wonderful has happened...
"Your Amiga is alive...
"And better yet...
"It has a virus..."
Then the ugliness occurs. The particular strain I had would (in addition to replicating itself) eat floppies and crash your system. Not that bad floppies were uncommon on the Amiga...
volatile_memory
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
The only reason I bring this up is that, if nothing else, the Amiga is a great source of inside jokes, like "Guru Meditation Errors" and "volatile memory"...
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
That's from the original post.
Given that statement, I was not addressing the Mac specifically... the mouse world in general.
Argue with Noctrnl... I'm just following the thread. The one you obviously didn't even pick up on. Writing this from a Mac, are you?
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
Hell, the reason I am making a concerted effort to learn the ins-and-outs of *nix and networking is so that, should the government's power ever impinge upon my access to the 'Net, I at least have a fighting chance to find and exploit a weakness.
OK... I'm now going to surf over to ZDNet and read their discussion forum on this... probably full of "only bad people need to worry" crap. People are so gullable...
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
I think these people need girlfriends.
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
The reason the Amiga was so cool is because it was so different from anything that had come before. Today, the functions it did can be done on almost any platform. Your point about them not doing it as well or as "elegantly" as the Amiga is probably true, but I think community efforts to shape Linux or *BSD into a better tool are more useful than reinventing the Amiga's wheel.
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
Today, I can do the same things (and much, much more) with Linux, Windows, Mac, Be, etc. Hell, I can even simulate any of those machines with UAE.
The Amiga had it's chance to rule the world and due (partly) to Commodore's incompetence missed its opportunity.
Please, dear fellows... let the Amiga rest in peace. Soil no further my memories of that great machine, and let her spirit join the pantheon of the great (?) machines of the past: the Sinclars, Apple ][s and the TRS-80s... the TI-99s and the Atari Jaguars...
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
I used to think it was bitterness, but it turns out he was right.
File Metallica under "The Band That Should Not Be."
Regardless of how lonely or impersonal it is, the real point is information access. Isn't the point of the LoC the preservation of knowledge for the public? Is there a better way to share that information with the widest possible audience then electronically?
These folks are living on a different planet...
I have not been using Amazon since the One-Click debacle, but this situation made me mad enough to write this morning... "The patenting of your Affiliate Program is an outrageous misuse of patent law. Your One-Click suit against Barnes and Nobel angered me greatly, but this is the last straw. I will never again order from a company so insecure in its ability to compete in a free market that it feels the need to stifle competition via preemptive legal action. I almost wish someone had patented online transactions a few years back and sued YOU when you tried to reach consumers via the Internet, you lousy hypocrites."
The beautiful and ugly thing about open source is that this sort of thing can happen.
Sure, a buncha "suits" can waltz in and do as they please, but if we don't like where they take us ("That's not where we want to go today"), we strike off in another direction.
The code is out there for everyone. If "they" wish to use it to manifest their corporate black-magick, so be it. We don't have to use their products... we can build our own. We can VOTE WITH CODE.