Point is, if you're so sure about the platform you're on, probably other people feel the same way you do. If a product is worthwhile, it'll survive, if it dies, it's because it's badly marketted or not an absolutely needed product.
You linux people (not the old hardcore but the new commers) have been living against microsoft for what, less than 5 years? Guess what, Amiga owners have been living against PC for 10 years before switching platform, and why did they? because the PC finally catched up with multimedia capabilities, content creation tools, etc etc... not only raw cpu power... If amiga would still have been the computer to do the job I needed it to, I'd still use it 95% of the time, not the opposite.
In the end, machines are a tool, there'a a bit more philosophy behind platform wars and buisness practices, but in the end, is your tool right for the job? yes/no? are there any other alternatives? yes/no? good... not take it and do the job you need to do for god's sake.
Microsoft doesn't control everything yet, I can still chose my beer.
Control the Desktop OS - check
Control the browsing platform - cHeck
Control lobyists and juges - check
Control databases and information - check
Control what people WANT - In progress...
ok they can continue on with their world domination strategy, fine with me, as long as it means one day they will control my mother in law, if that's not in the plan... I have the feeling I am being screwed somewhere....I just can't point it...
it's fun to program the Parallel port under Linux, DOS, win9x, I was working on a dongle project, the thing that killed me was when I arrived on NT/2K.... you need kernel-mode drivers to address it, now there are some packages to help you to do it but... when you're a micro-controller programmer that does everything in assembly, programming the NT DDK isn't the same ballpark... I was completely lost and was too lazy to learn it (had to learn C++ and windows programming... bah:) )
Videotron Montreal 6GB total quota, max 1GB upload... while I do agree with the 1GB upload limit for normal use, I think 5GB download for 50$/month is fairly expensive considering the DSL service (main competitor) is charging 40$/unlimited (and god they do get abused). I think there's 2 schemes that should be addressed, low bandwidth requiring joe should have a flat fee with low quota, like 3-5GB, and joe power should be able to fit in a price scheme, there's money to be made here and it's not by charging 35cents a meg or 2$/100 megs (videotron) that you'll do a profit, because that's more a restricting scheme then a profitable one... these people don't require extra tech support nor extra technician setup time, only some extra bandwidth, so I don't see why they don't do a pricing scheme to accomodate them as well, it's almost pure profit.
Most of the people I know switched. I didn't because they do offer a rock stable service, which DSL wasn't able to beat, but now it's fairly the same.
The analogy I see is, get a porsche, but don't drive over the speed limit... oh and you're limited to 50 liters of gas / months else you have to pay 10$ a liter. So yes you do get advantages, quick starts, arriving at the red light faster than anybody else, but in the end, is it really worth it?
Dude, if anyone is stuck playing quake from antartica, he should get fragged for real to be put out of his misery. And besides, a ticket to USA will probably cost less than a month playing quake from there:)
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So in the very best case, the ping time will be *at least* half a second, and I suspect probably closer to a second in reality. Forget playing Quake in Antartica...
About time, now all we need is a phone based on something like a Casiopeia handheld for the features (crisp colors, multimedia video/audio (mp3)) add some mpeg4 codec for video, a mini camera built-in or with some sort of holder for the device would make a sweet video phone on the desk:) ), a ibm 1GB microdrive, and off you go, TRUE pocket multimedia power, not only a buzzword, all the gadgets a geek will ever dream (mp3, phone, agenda, video, yadi yada), It's getting so close to me, I can feel it! (well at least dream it:) )
People say that they still buy music or even more than before because of napster, to make napster look good... some actually do, yes, but most not.
RIAA says napster hurts their sales, but they don't do much about it exept whine and sue. And did the price for a cd change since 10 years? not really.
Solution? why would someone go thru all the trouble of downloading mp3s, and burn them on a cd that 25% of the players out there won't be able to read?, why wouldn't you see that 4 years ago and now it's like the new Thing? 4 years ago it wasn't worth it to do that because the price of the cd was way too expensive (and one could argue that mp3 were a bit more rare to find). If you'd trop the price of a CD to 4-5$US, most of the kids would rather buy the album and having the nice cover and all the de lyrics with good packaging than downloading it and having to burn it (exept for custom compilation).
There's 2 issues here... sensibilisation (which you won't get at 13+$ levels) and price. The hell to the people that use "it costs to manufacture" and so on, why do you see classic cds for 4$? why couldn't the mettalica cd be the same price? because it's more popular??? more popular = more sales = more volume = cheaper to mass produce, so the maths don't add up.
While I might not like the people lying that 90% of the people using napster are buying more CDs, I do find the people at the RIAA stubbern and really not opened... imagine if it would be the same thing in the computer industry, things would have moved backward instead of foward. I wonder how many technologies they've blocked that could have been here today, just by acting like that.
Who wouldn't like a service like napster that would do your CDs customly, and ship it to you for 4$ each, and with 10 cd you get free shipping for example? that way the author could be compensated, "napster" could make a profit, and joe nowhere could get known, everybody wins, exept the RIAA.
I just want a movie based on neuromancer, with all the computer graphics and power and quality of the animators, I'm sure they would make the cyberspace and effects look freakin crazy, and god, for once we might have a decent story on the screen...
That's pathetic, my Commodore 64 will end up having java support but not my classic amigas.... god damn it I knew I shouldn't have switched when the amiga 500 came out.
1. It's made for lefties. A lot more people are right handed than left. Scientific American lists most humans (say 70 percent to 95 percent) are right-handed, a minority (say 5 percent to 30 percent) are left-handed
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You're right (har har)... when I use my left hand, it feels like I'm doing it to someone else... erk....
AMEN brother, if I could mod you up to 20 I would.
>>>
I know that history is written by the victors but where does is say that it should be rewritten 50 years later in the name of greed? Is this what they fought for?
sums it up quite well, That's why I only go to theatre to see movies like T2 or any science fiction movies or comedies, anything that relates to history and is 99% not accurate should be lynched. It's a total insult to history and human intelligence, then again, a bunch of monkeys drop their $$ to see that, passively thinking they go to bed smarter with a good history lesson... hey if it's on the screen, it must be the Truth....
I really am starting to feel that DSL companies are doing everything to lose their users... It's like here in Quebec/Canada, Sympatico, they are REALLY fast at installing your setup and activating your account... but they SUCK terribly when you change address... and I won't mention the ping pong race when you call for anykind of support other than setting your email account;)
It's too bad, I don't know a single large DSL provider that doesn't have a web site running against it's suckish service.
I can understand that an unexpected big growth sometimes screws up the planning, but if it's the case, why are they still advertising on just about EVERY media available to grow their userbase and give such a bad name to a great technology? sheesh..
Q: why did I buy that 1GB JAZ drive many years ago when I was using a Videotoaster Flyer...
A: Because it was cheaper to buy 1GB cardriges to archive video, than buying extra SCSI hard drive (yes my Barracuda 4GB costed something around 5000$ back then)
Q: Why did it get so popular
A: Because it could hold shitload of data for a very decent price, plus it was fast and used to be reliable for the needs.
now when I read
The drive will sell for about $250 while the disks will retail at $160 for 10 gigabytes and $200 for 20 gigabytes.
that kills the "cheap way to backup and retreive fast" possibility (heck you can buy loads of hard drive and it'll be about the same price, and with all those cheap raid on board, do a mirror if you want to be safe).
Transport? well at these price levels and lack of popularity (you can bring your zip, you'll find a drive, JAZ 1GB, probably too, JAZ 2GB? getting rare, Click? even less popular, so that tells a lot), At these level, I was saying, I'd rather buy a USB enclosure and a 80GB drive, or if I had cash to burn, a nice NAS.
Sorry Iomega, you understood that your JAZ were too small for the current need, you've fixed that, but Bob wouldn't say "the price is right".
now not only I'll bang my mouse when I'll be pissed getting fragged in quake, I'll bang the keyboard at the same time, double the frustration releive in one single shot, the one who claims that isn't worth a patent is a complete idiot
Space invaders... you shoot at them, but they always come back and no matter how long you shoot and survive, you never win.
Nah... XXXbox, bundled with virtual valery :)
Not to consider people using portable players without 40gb hard drives...
i.e. flash
isn't microsoft supposed to be the one humping our ass? :)
Since when do the pentagon think they're so hot for finding DDs? no war, so all they can think of is sex??? pffff
Point is, if you're so sure about the platform you're on, probably other people feel the same way you do. If a product is worthwhile, it'll survive, if it dies, it's because it's badly marketted or not an absolutely needed product.
You linux people (not the old hardcore but the new commers) have been living against microsoft for what, less than 5 years? Guess what, Amiga owners have been living against PC for 10 years before switching platform, and why did they? because the PC finally catched up with multimedia capabilities, content creation tools, etc etc... not only raw cpu power... If amiga would still have been the computer to do the job I needed it to, I'd still use it 95% of the time, not the opposite.
In the end, machines are a tool, there'a a bit more philosophy behind platform wars and buisness practices, but in the end, is your tool right for the job? yes/no? are there any other alternatives? yes/no? good... not take it and do the job you need to do for god's sake.
Microsoft doesn't control everything yet, I can still chose my beer.
Maybe he's the one who ported linux to PS2 for his missile control thing :)
Oh shit don't tell me he actually did something good?
Control the Desktop OS - check
Control the browsing platform - cHeck
Control lobyists and juges - check
Control databases and information - check
Control what people WANT - In progress...
ok they can continue on with their world domination strategy, fine with me, as long as it means one day they will control my mother in law, if that's not in the plan... I have the feeling I am being screwed somewhere....I just can't point it...
it's fun to program the Parallel port under Linux, DOS, win9x, I was working on a dongle project, the thing that killed me was when I arrived on NT/2K.... you need kernel-mode drivers to address it, now there are some packages to help you to do it but... when you're a micro-controller programmer that does everything in assembly, programming the NT DDK isn't the same ballpark... I was completely lost and was too lazy to learn it (had to learn C++ and windows programming... bah :) )
Videotron Montreal 6GB total quota, max 1GB upload... while I do agree with the 1GB upload limit for normal use, I think 5GB download for 50$/month is fairly expensive considering the DSL service (main competitor) is charging 40$/unlimited (and god they do get abused). I think there's 2 schemes that should be addressed, low bandwidth requiring joe should have a flat fee with low quota, like 3-5GB, and joe power should be able to fit in a price scheme, there's money to be made here and it's not by charging 35cents a meg or 2$/100 megs (videotron) that you'll do a profit, because that's more a restricting scheme then a profitable one... these people don't require extra tech support nor extra technician setup time, only some extra bandwidth, so I don't see why they don't do a pricing scheme to accomodate them as well, it's almost pure profit.
Most of the people I know switched. I didn't because they do offer a rock stable service, which DSL wasn't able to beat, but now it's fairly the same.
The analogy I see is, get a porsche, but don't drive over the speed limit... oh and you're limited to 50 liters of gas / months else you have to pay 10$ a liter. So yes you do get advantages, quick starts, arriving at the red light faster than anybody else, but in the end, is it really worth it?
Dude, if anyone is stuck playing quake from antartica, he should get fragged for real to be put out of his misery. And besides, a ticket to USA will probably cost less than a month playing quake from there :)
...
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So in the very best case, the ping time will be *at least* half a second, and I suspect probably closer to a second in reality. Forget playing Quake in Antartica
About time, now all we need is a phone based on something like a Casiopeia handheld for the features (crisp colors, multimedia video/audio (mp3)) add some mpeg4 codec for video, a mini camera built-in or with some sort of holder for the device would make a sweet video phone on the desk :) ), a ibm 1GB microdrive, and off you go, TRUE pocket multimedia power, not only a buzzword, all the gadgets a geek will ever dream (mp3, phone, agenda, video, yadi yada), It's getting so close to me, I can feel it! (well at least dream it :) )
People say that they still buy music or even more than before because of napster, to make napster look good... some actually do, yes, but most not.
RIAA says napster hurts their sales, but they don't do much about it exept whine and sue. And did the price for a cd change since 10 years? not really.
Solution? why would someone go thru all the trouble of downloading mp3s, and burn them on a cd that 25% of the players out there won't be able to read?, why wouldn't you see that 4 years ago and now it's like the new Thing? 4 years ago it wasn't worth it to do that because the price of the cd was way too expensive (and one could argue that mp3 were a bit more rare to find). If you'd trop the price of a CD to 4-5$US, most of the kids would rather buy the album and having the nice cover and all the de lyrics with good packaging than downloading it and having to burn it (exept for custom compilation).
There's 2 issues here... sensibilisation (which you won't get at 13+$ levels) and price. The hell to the people that use "it costs to manufacture" and so on, why do you see classic cds for 4$? why couldn't the mettalica cd be the same price? because it's more popular??? more popular = more sales = more volume = cheaper to mass produce, so the maths don't add up.
While I might not like the people lying that 90% of the people using napster are buying more CDs, I do find the people at the RIAA stubbern and really not opened... imagine if it would be the same thing in the computer industry, things would have moved backward instead of foward. I wonder how many technologies they've blocked that could have been here today, just by acting like that.
Who wouldn't like a service like napster that would do your CDs customly, and ship it to you for 4$ each, and with 10 cd you get free shipping for example? that way the author could be compensated, "napster" could make a profit, and joe nowhere could get known, everybody wins, exept the RIAA.
I just want a movie based on neuromancer, with all the computer graphics and power and quality of the animators, I'm sure they would make the cyberspace and effects look freakin crazy, and god, for once we might have a decent story on the screen...
:)
citizen for a free matrix
That's pathetic, my Commodore 64 will end up having java support but not my classic amigas.... god damn it I knew I shouldn't have switched when the amiga 500 came out.
1. It's made for lefties. A lot more people are right handed than left. Scientific American lists most humans (say 70 percent to 95 percent) are right-handed, a minority (say 5 percent to 30 percent) are left-handed
---
You're right (har har)... when I use my left hand, it feels like I'm doing it to someone else... erk....
AMEN brother, if I could mod you up to 20 I would.
>>>
I know that history is written by the victors but where does is say that it should be rewritten 50 years later in the name of greed? Is this what they fought for?
sums it up quite well, That's why I only go to theatre to see movies like T2 or any science fiction movies or comedies, anything that relates to history and is 99% not accurate should be lynched. It's a total insult to history and human intelligence, then again, a bunch of monkeys drop their $$ to see that, passively thinking they go to bed smarter with a good history lesson... hey if it's on the screen, it must be the Truth....
I really am starting to feel that DSL companies are doing everything to lose their users... It's like here in Quebec/Canada, Sympatico, they are REALLY fast at installing your setup and activating your account... but they SUCK terribly when you change address... and I won't mention the ping pong race when you call for anykind of support other than setting your email account ;)
It's too bad, I don't know a single large DSL provider that doesn't have a web site running against it's suckish service.
I can understand that an unexpected big growth sometimes screws up the planning, but if it's the case, why are they still advertising on just about EVERY media available to grow their userbase and give such a bad name to a great technology? sheesh..
Ping DOES matter.
Q: why did I buy that 1GB JAZ drive many years ago when I was using a Videotoaster Flyer...
A: Because it was cheaper to buy 1GB cardriges to archive video, than buying extra SCSI hard drive (yes my Barracuda 4GB costed something around 5000$ back then)
Q: Why did it get so popular
A: Because it could hold shitload of data for a very decent price, plus it was fast and used to be reliable for the needs.
now when I read
The drive will sell for about $250 while the disks will retail at $160 for 10 gigabytes and $200 for 20 gigabytes.
that kills the "cheap way to backup and retreive fast" possibility (heck you can buy loads of hard drive and it'll be about the same price, and with all those cheap raid on board, do a mirror if you want to be safe).
Transport? well at these price levels and lack of popularity (you can bring your zip, you'll find a drive, JAZ 1GB, probably too, JAZ 2GB? getting rare, Click? even less popular, so that tells a lot), At these level, I was saying, I'd rather buy a USB enclosure and a 80GB drive, or if I had cash to burn, a nice NAS.
Sorry Iomega, you understood that your JAZ were too small for the current need, you've fixed that, but Bob wouldn't say "the price is right".
That's really cool now I've calculated 50 hits/second :)
His counter is screwed tho, it was at 693, I've refreshed, it was at 137
now not only I'll bang my mouse when I'll be pissed getting fragged in quake, I'll bang the keyboard at the same time, double the frustration releive in one single shot, the one who claims that isn't worth a patent is a complete idiot
" this summer Detroit Edison will lay 1200 feet of superconducting power cable near their Frisbie "
Uhmmm, I dunno about you, but that's gonna be one hell of a frisbie to throw.
("You're a residential customer, you can't serve data, only consume it!")
That's okay with me, I wanna consume p0rn not serve it.
http://www.cinema.com/trailers/item.phtml?ID=5025