We build a metric shitload (tm) of these. We start screwing up the ocean temperature, which screws up ocean currents. The Earth seeks equilibruium and BAM! A new ice age.
So you interviewed one guy who didn't fit your criteria and that is the US as a whole? Maybe you didn't look in the right places. I can't count how many times I run accross BS job postings. Example: 15+ years of web development required. Companies view H1Bs as cheaper alternatives, not only because they won't pay them as much but because: the visa holder can't find/get another job without first leaving the country, they typically won't see a raise, and are completely expendible with little legal recourse.
Don't have sources but please explain why Japanese and German car companies now open new plants in the US? The stats from these factories bare out that US workers build at higher quality and higher output. The Japanese had a lot of fun picking apart the "American Worker" but that was really a jab at American Management. So when American companies move plants outside of the US and claim quality and UAW as reasons, they are lying through their teeth. They simply want the cheapest labor they can find regardless of quality.
More than likely as a serious actor, he's above the role. I got that impression when he was making the interview tour for the first movie. I bet my friends that he wouldn't appear in any more Spidy movie beyond the first one. Looks like I might cash in.
Then they have *made* a choice. This has nothing to do with force.
Now welcome to the arguement the rest of us are having: Would this be a wise choice? I agrue no, we have a hard time predicting what will happen in 5 years in IT let alone 10 years down the road. The University should keep it's options open in case of major upheavals. Imagine if the doner made this offer in 1990, except the Uni had to use Mac exclusively. The University would have missed out on the rise of Microsoft products and the Linux movement. Doesn't sound so hot now, does it?
I respect your opinion, and I am not disagreeing with what you have to say. The thrust of my argument is that it would be wrong for the University to enter into an agreement that restricts the University's ability to choose different systems. Like I said, if the donor wanted to restrict how his money is spent, and go to OSS software labs, I have no problem with that. The donor is attempting to limit the University's options for the next 10 years. I find that reprehensible.
And yes, as a side argument, I think you are slightly hamstringing your current students by not having some access to Microsoft products, especially the non-CS majors. I would also argue that many CS majors would benefit by actually checking out the MS products and see what they are talking about and what they might writing programs for in the near future. Give them a chance to think outside their box before they have to deal with admins and apps in the real world.
How do you intend all the CURRENT running applications? THAT is the big cost. How nice that you want to teach the Jouralism students OpenOffice, but what about when they want to user thier specialty applcations? How about when the B-schoolers want to use Hyperion and Powerpoint? Think outside the CS box.
MCSE at the top end will equal out to the RHCE. And yes, I've seen those positions offered. Average for an MCSE is ~$60K. No, the paper guys don't see that salary.
Says who? I don't intend for this to be a troll or mean spirited in any way, but there are many fields of study that do not need to use Linux software in any way shape or form. It could be argued that folks from just about any field of study *can* get by just fine without Linux. I use emacs, but other than that, nothing else from Linux. Additionally, I have friends who are PhD mathematicians, MD's, writers, musicians, bioscientists etc... who actually don't use any software from Linux. All these folks are primarily using Dells, but a couple of them (engineers) are running Windows 2000 after moving from SGI's IRIX.
Funny, that while I'm poking holes in your arguement, so much of my version is absolutely true. (as is yours, no doubt.)
Not when they're going to walk into a job and be expected to know Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and Outlook. If they have trouble understanding one system, it doesn't hold that they will automatically learn another fast. Take it easy on the non-Techies and give them what they will see when they forage in the Real World.
This will not boost enrollment. This will drive students away. Believe it or not, MS products are not reviled outside of subgroups of the IT/Geek community. I know this will be hard for Slashdotters to grasp.
In the end, this guy's grandfather would be restricting CHOICE! Which is something that this group should be firmly against. He would also be hurting student's education by not including these products, which are widely used in the real world. He should walk away, or get the guy to agree that just THAT money won't be used for Microsoft products, which would be a reasonable request. If the grandfather takes this deal, he is doing the exact thing that Microsoft competitors complain about, i.e. pay OEMs to only use their products.
What the poster is getting at is that Canada with it's population of ~32 million needs far less energy than a nation of ~300 million like the US. NYC proper has a population of ~10 million alone. NY State and the state of California are larger in population than the entire country of Canada. So to say that it is easier for Canada to meet it's energy needs through renewable sources is correct. This is not an Anti-Canada statement. The fact is, the US could be getting more energy for renewable sources and you still would have low percentages for the US. You are failing to grasp the scale of the energy needs of the US. Now if you really want to stretch your scale, think of providing power to China.
But isn't the point of blocking to keep kids out of it? I know filters and blockers are not perfect, but that is what parents buy them for. So what if adults look at p0rn? If a friend gave me thier web history, a) do you really think I'd care if I found out he surfed over to playboy? b) you honestly think I'm going to read through any of that garbage?
I know. You'd have to think and all. Might be forced to judge the relative strengths and weaknesses in an organization and attempt to extrapolate those into what situations they would help and which they would hinder. We can't have that! Quick, find a Hollywood actor and give this man a bumper sticker cause!
Try telling that to the shareholders. Oh yes, we DID buy a $50 million dollar private jet. Yes, only the execs (all 12 of them) can use it. Golly, why is everyone at the shareholder's conference so pissed?
You, and all who pan Troopers in the same manner, have missed the point. It was the point to make it a campy B movie. They were lampooning the conformist attitude and showing the effects of totalitarian rule. Intellect is marginalized unless it is directly controlled by the state. The mindless football stud is elevated to puppet-hero; a perfect vassal for the powers that be. A violent reaction to those who are different. I realize books tend to be much better and have more depth than movies, but jesus, did the entire geek community only see the surface reflection of this movie????
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We build a metric shitload (tm) of these. We start screwing up the ocean temperature, which screws up ocean currents. The Earth seeks equilibruium and BAM! A new ice age.
Or I could be wrong. :-)
Which reminds me, what is Mr. Savage up to these days? Has he made any efforts to act on his ideas?
Smells familar. Haven't we stepped in this before?
No, actually I haven't. Because the UK has. Oh, they didn't send B-52s and the like, but they've done plenty of damage.
So you interviewed one guy who didn't fit your criteria and that is the US as a whole? Maybe you didn't look in the right places. I can't count how many times I run accross BS job postings. Example: 15+ years of web development required. Companies view H1Bs as cheaper alternatives, not only because they won't pay them as much but because: the visa holder can't find/get another job without first leaving the country, they typically won't see a raise, and are completely expendible with little legal recourse.
Don't have sources but please explain why Japanese and German car companies now open new plants in the US? The stats from these factories bare out that US workers build at higher quality and higher output. The Japanese had a lot of fun picking apart the "American Worker" but that was really a jab at American Management. So when American companies move plants outside of the US and claim quality and UAW as reasons, they are lying through their teeth. They simply want the cheapest labor they can find regardless of quality.
You're putting the cart before the horse. Price is set THEN customer demand for the service at that price is set.
More than likely as a serious actor, he's above the role. I got that impression when he was making the interview tour for the first movie. I bet my friends that he wouldn't appear in any more Spidy movie beyond the first one. Looks like I might cash in.
...are NOT... Miss one word, change the whole meaning.
North Korea isn't a real threat. They'll scream and holler, but they are dumb enough to push the button. Even GWB knows this.
About 90%
Now welcome to the arguement the rest of us are having: Would this be a wise choice? I agrue no, we have a hard time predicting what will happen in 5 years in IT let alone 10 years down the road. The University should keep it's options open in case of major upheavals. Imagine if the doner made this offer in 1990, except the Uni had to use Mac exclusively. The University would have missed out on the rise of Microsoft products and the Linux movement. Doesn't sound so hot now, does it?
And yes, as a side argument, I think you are slightly hamstringing your current students by not having some access to Microsoft products, especially the non-CS majors. I would also argue that many CS majors would benefit by actually checking out the MS products and see what they are talking about and what they might writing programs for in the near future. Give them a chance to think outside their box before they have to deal with admins and apps in the real world.
Yet still you'd screem bloody murder if the roles were reversed.
How do you intend all the CURRENT running applications? THAT is the big cost. How nice that you want to teach the Jouralism students OpenOffice, but what about when they want to user thier specialty applcations? How about when the B-schoolers want to use Hyperion and Powerpoint? Think outside the CS box.
MCSE at the top end will equal out to the RHCE. And yes, I've seen those positions offered. Average for an MCSE is ~$60K. No, the paper guys don't see that salary.
Funny, that while I'm poking holes in your arguement, so much of my version is absolutely true. (as is yours, no doubt.)
Not when they're going to walk into a job and be expected to know Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and Outlook. If they have trouble understanding one system, it doesn't hold that they will automatically learn another fast. Take it easy on the non-Techies and give them what they will see when they forage in the Real World.
In the end, this guy's grandfather would be restricting CHOICE! Which is something that this group should be firmly against. He would also be hurting student's education by not including these products, which are widely used in the real world. He should walk away, or get the guy to agree that just THAT money won't be used for Microsoft products, which would be a reasonable request. If the grandfather takes this deal, he is doing the exact thing that Microsoft competitors complain about, i.e. pay OEMs to only use their products.
What the poster is getting at is that Canada with it's population of ~32 million needs far less energy than a nation of ~300 million like the US. NYC proper has a population of ~10 million alone. NY State and the state of California are larger in population than the entire country of Canada. So to say that it is easier for Canada to meet it's energy needs through renewable sources is correct. This is not an Anti-Canada statement. The fact is, the US could be getting more energy for renewable sources and you still would have low percentages for the US. You are failing to grasp the scale of the energy needs of the US. Now if you really want to stretch your scale, think of providing power to China.
But isn't the point of blocking to keep kids out of it? I know filters and blockers are not perfect, but that is what parents buy them for. So what if adults look at p0rn? If a friend gave me thier web history, a) do you really think I'd care if I found out he surfed over to playboy? b) you honestly think I'm going to read through any of that garbage?
I know. You'd have to think and all. Might be forced to judge the relative strengths and weaknesses in an organization and attempt to extrapolate those into what situations they would help and which they would hinder. We can't have that! Quick, find a Hollywood actor and give this man a bumper sticker cause!
Try telling that to the shareholders. Oh yes, we DID buy a $50 million dollar private jet. Yes, only the execs (all 12 of them) can use it. Golly, why is everyone at the shareholder's conference so pissed?
Whatever you feel is right, of course. However, don't be shocked if your decision has consequences, i.e. loss of job.
You, and all who pan Troopers in the same manner, have missed the point. It was the point to make it a campy B movie. They were lampooning the conformist attitude and showing the effects of totalitarian rule. Intellect is marginalized unless it is directly controlled by the state. The mindless football stud is elevated to puppet-hero; a perfect vassal for the powers that be. A violent reaction to those who are different. I realize books tend to be much better and have more depth than movies, but jesus, did the entire geek community only see the surface reflection of this movie????