Has anyone else tried to use Flash/Flex to do anything more then just a game/animation? The frameworks are at best immature. While the Flex language is "ok" (basically just ECMAScript), the libraries, tools, frameworks, and most everything else that goes with it are just abysmally bad when compared to any other modern language (Java, Obj-C, Python, C#, etc).
The Flex Builder plugin for eclipse only supports Eclipse 3.3, which means modern plugins won't work. The flex compiler itself is slow and hard to setup. Oh, and the tools only officially support Windows and OSX. The documents are horrible and only give you most simplest of use case examples, but this might be because most of the frameworks breakdown when doing even remotely off the "rail" they have defined.
Just as a quick example of something inexcusably broken, the ComboBox that comes with Flex doesn't have a set selected by value function. You can only set by index and by label... which is just crazy when you consider most ComboBoxes contain localized strings order alphabetically in that local.
As a development environments go, I think you would be hard pressed to find something worse for development than flex.
And I could go on about how bad the user interaction is by default. But you really have to see that one to believe it.
How come I get 503 errors? I've been experiencing this for about 2 weeks now. Didn't seem to be happening before. It'd be one thing if it was all the time, but it's not. Is it slashdot, or my choice of browser (firefox)?
long and the short of it.. someone at slashdot's end broke something... There isn't anything we can do but complain for now.
2nd question is: how come sometimes there is text that renders as ^D^D^D^D^D^D sometimes. I think it's when someone tries to use a special character that my browser (again firefox) doesn't support, but I don't know how to fix this. Again, slashdot is the only place I experience this.
'^D' is when people want to pretend to delete things... it's because on terms that doesn't support the backspace key that's what shows up (since that's the actual code that gets sent)
So we will have freedom of speach for those that agree with us. Because the only true freedom is when it has tight bonds on it... Logistically this makes absolutely no sense to me.
ok, that is just plane untrue, there are physical effects of ADD/ADHD. Personal I become very hyper when I don't have enough stimulants in my system. Some days if I don't take ether my meds (which are stimulants, if give to someone with normal brain chemistry) or at least some caffeine I can't sit still.
Now this isn't to say that it isn't over diagnosed, but just because some people are using it to cheat the system doesn't mean everyone is.
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Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit. (There is no great genius without madness.) -- Seneca
And here is the reason I still drudge through the comments on slashdot. I would like to thank you for not only being able to write/spell, but also for making a good point.
I wish comments like this where the norm, not the exception.
-- "Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one." - A.J. Liebling
You should try to find Yevgeny Zamyatin's(Caution this is spelt a lot of different ways, but this is how it is spelt on my copy:) ) "We" it is the book that started the Brave New World/1984 idea of a Dystopic world... and it is a great nerd book.
------- "...everything is finite, everything is simple, everything is calculable. And then we shall conquer philosophically - do you understand? And you, my sir, are disturbing me, you are not letting me complete my calculation, you are screaming.." - Bathroom Mathematician to D-503 (Yevgeny Zamyatin's "We")
Well if the link had worked that would have been a good start...
Eh, I'm hitting a problem you see... If I give you a question I need to have the answer, right. But if I know the answer then another guy could know the answer...
maybe if you could show me some witness or something like that... maybe something like old posts somewhere that mention that you are female...
PS you do seem interesting though.. how about we switch the context of this argument.. try Emailing me (mE123 at softhome.net) or ICQing me (#11765864)
------- "Geez...You Guys are so un-hip it's a wonder your Bums don't fall off!" Zaphod Beeblebrox, Ex-Galactic President.
Slashdot Mirror
Has anyone else tried to use Flash/Flex to do anything more then just a game/animation? The frameworks are at best immature. While the Flex language is "ok" (basically just ECMAScript), the libraries, tools, frameworks, and most everything else that goes with it are just abysmally bad when compared to any other modern language (Java, Obj-C, Python, C#, etc).
The Flex Builder plugin for eclipse only supports Eclipse 3.3, which means modern plugins won't work. The flex compiler itself is slow and hard to setup. Oh, and the tools only officially support Windows and OSX. The documents are horrible and only give you most simplest of use case examples, but this might be because most of the frameworks breakdown when doing even remotely off the "rail" they have defined.
Just as a quick example of something inexcusably broken, the ComboBox that comes with Flex doesn't have a set selected by value function. You can only set by index and by label... which is just crazy when you consider most ComboBoxes contain localized strings order alphabetically in that local.
As a development environments go, I think you would be hard pressed to find something worse for development than flex.
And I could go on about how bad the user interaction is by default. But you really have to see that one to believe it.
This story has been here for an hour and still no comments??
Slashdot must be broken, because I know people aren't reading the article
I'm sure there is something snappy I could say here... but I'm really not in to it today...
I think I'm going to go back to bed
That was super fast, gave it a quick look over. It could be real. (It is at the very least a good fake)
I'm sure it will be up on the the pirate bay (and everywhere else) by tomorrow afternoon.
Happy reading, you stealing bastards
Ahh... got it working... it would seem that I was being confused by the blankness at the begining of each one of the talks.
Thanks to everyone that responded
I can't seem to open any of the archives, I tried both the Mark Shuttleworth and the Colin Walters talks...
I'm on a windows box, so I tried it with foobar, winamp, and WMP, none of which worked...
searchterm1 searchterm2 ~bogus
~ is the google synonym operator. To play with it try ~word -word, so you only get the synonyms.
Ah, google is there anything it can't do?
Is it me or was this site slashdoted before even the first comment was posted??
long and the short of it.. someone at slashdot's end broke something... There isn't anything we can do but complain for now.
'^D' is when people want to pretend to delete things... it's because on terms that doesn't support the backspace key that's what shows up (since that's the actual code that gets sent)
So we will have freedom of speach for those that agree with us. Because the only true freedom is when it has tight bonds on it... Logistically this makes absolutely no sense to me.
ok, that is just plane untrue, there are physical effects of ADD/ADHD. Personal I become very hyper when I don't have enough stimulants in my system. Some days if I don't take ether my meds (which are stimulants, if give to someone with normal brain chemistry) or at least some caffeine I can't sit still.
Now this isn't to say that it isn't over diagnosed, but just because some people are using it to cheat the system doesn't mean everyone is.
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Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit. (There is no great genius without madness.) -- Seneca
if they let me mess with the firmwear, I might well make one
yes, but 8-tracks where bigger and less cool... while Oggs are smaller and sexyer
Will it play Oggs? They released the Integer only version of the codec months ago.
If I can't play half my music, I don't care how big the harddrive might be.
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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Will it play Oggs? They released the Integer only version of the codec months ago.
If I can't play half my music, I don't care how big the harddrive might be.
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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
And here is the reason I still drudge through the comments on slashdot. I would like to thank you for not only being able to write/spell, but also for making a good point.
I wish comments like this where the norm, not the exception.
--
"Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one." - A.J. Liebling
I'll second that, QuickTime maybe evil but Real is the root of *all* Evil...
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All I want is a little more than I'll ever get.
Could some post a version of the Trailer in something other then .mov format... How about in .mpeg or maybe DivX .avi
I promise double points... and a happy reply
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"Computer science is as much about computers as astronomy is about telescopes" - E. W. Dijkstra
You should try to find Yevgeny Zamyatin's(Caution this is spelt a lot of different ways, but this is how it is spelt on my copy :) ) "We" it is the book that started the Brave New World/1984 idea of a Dystopic world... and it is a great nerd book.
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"...everything is finite, everything is simple, everything is calculable. And then we shall conquer philosophically - do you understand? And you, my sir, are disturbing me, you are not letting me complete my calculation, you are screaming.." - Bathroom Mathematician to D-503 (Yevgeny Zamyatin's "We")
it's saul.... W00t....
I think the Toronto Meetup must have been the best..
dare to disagree?
need I say more?
well if you think so... There were like 40ish people and not just that but there were 2 real (no I didn't check) girls....
All in all I think it must have been the best meetup
do you dare disagree?
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Toronto the center of the UNIVERSE
you are a disgusting deprived person.. and I praise you for it
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sex on Television can't hit you... unless you fall off
Whisky?
Well if the link had worked that would have been a good start...
Eh, I'm hitting a problem you see... If I give you a question I need to have the answer, right. But if I know the answer then another guy could know the answer...
maybe if you could show me some witness or something like that... maybe something like old posts somewhere that mention that you are female...
PS you do seem interesting though.. how about we switch the context of this argument.. try Emailing me (mE123 at softhome.net) or ICQing me (#11765864)
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"Geez...You Guys are so un-hip it's a wonder your Bums don't fall off!" Zaphod Beeblebrox, Ex-Galactic President.
Come on that's funny
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