An Apple Reseller cannot "sell some eMacs to a school". All educational sales go direct to Apple.
Any scrupulous Apple Reseller will kick the sale if it is shipped to a school address or once they discover it's a school, because there contract says Apple has exclusive access to schools. Even The Apple Store will refer you to Apple Education Sales.
Who knows....maybe those guys were soldering Apple I's together in the garage with the Steves? Still not quite 30 years but closer than the 20 between the Mac and the present.
It's called service my friend. I buy something from a dealer, I take it to the dealer when there's a problem. My VW dealers have never told me to call Volkswagen to get my car fixed.
Let me put it to you from a different perspective....why should I give my money to a reseller, when the level of service is the same as buying it from macconnection.com? Note I don't have to pay sales tax to macconnection, so why should I pay more for the privilege of my dealer telling me to call the manufacturer?
It's exactly your attitude that I'm talking about. "It's not my problem" I've never got that from The Apple Store. The resellers deal with their supplier is not my problem; I gave my money in good faith to the RESELLER not Apple. Therefore, I expect service from the RESELLER. And I think maybe you missed the real point...this particular reseller (*cough* Di-No) missed out on selling me not one but two powerbooks, a G5, a 17" and a 23" Cinema, all because of that attitude. IMO they deserve to be out of business for failing to take advantage of the opportunities right in front of their face.
If the margins aren't there for an Apple reseller, then perhaps this type of channel cleansing is a good thing, no?
Yeah I'm kind of echoing what a lot of people here are saying, I have a little different spin on it though.
There are a handful of legendary Apple Resellers that I have heard of. Never experienced, just heard of them. For this handful of stores, it is a most unfortunate situation.
All of the resellers I have dealt with were complete crap. Bozo sales people that couldn't field the simplest questions about specificaitons. Service people "I think it's fixed", "OH, you wanted that data?", and my favorite: "you need to call Apple". (I maintained a school network of at first 8 Mac SEs, eventually over 100 i/eMacs and PowerMacs over a 12 year period, so I know)
Aside from my professional experience, I decided to purchase a PM/933 from a local reseller, rather than drive across L.A. or pay shipping. When I ran across the screen spasms (turned out to be a driver problem), first they blamed my non-apple display. So I bought an Apple Display (this time from the Apple Store btw). Problem persisted. I pointed out the 900+ post on the Apple discussion forums to the service techs. Still nothing. "You need to call Apple", from their top dog tech whom I previously had respect for. Why should *I* have to call Apple? I just handed them a small fortune for the system, shouldn't *they* call Apple? Wanna guess how many more dollars I spent there?
I'm sure before the Apple Retail Project came into conception, Apple had heard thousands of stories just like mine. They knew opening retail stores would piss off a bunch of people, people that had helped them stay in business. They knew they would be sued. They knew little soapbox nazis would cry out about the injustice of it all. They also knew they had no choice but to surgically remove the cancer that had been eroding the value of their brand for the past decade. It was a simple cost:benefit analysis.
Really, do you think the iPod would have smashed the competition without The Apple Store? I remember taking a trip to New York a couple of months after the iPod was introduced. One of the retail shops my family owns is 3 blocks away from the SOHO Appple Store, so I had a chance to hang out and watch the street. Everywhere I looked, white headphones, white headphones, white headphones. Funny when I went uptown, not so many white headphones.
Sent my previous PB-667 in 363 days after purchase because the feet came off. It was returned to me in 3 days with a new case and a new battery (because one of the feet that fell off was on the battery).
Have either of you guys actually seen the text of this message?
Neither have I but I am sure (because it's Mac OS X) it goes a lot farther to empower and help the user understand the implications of their actions than the 'Always Trust Content from Gator Corp.' dialog you get with Internet Exploder.
And I hate to say it, most geek toys cost more than $100.
Here's an idea: get him something that is not geek-oriented at all. He will probably treasure it more than something destined to end up in one of his techno-junk piles or handed down to his "lower-tech" buddies.
You're thinking like a geek. Extra space? Removable what? These are the responses you'll get from an iPod mini customer. If you show them the larger, white box, they'll point at the mini and say "this one is cuter and smaller". And if you get a savvy ipod mini shopper, they'll say "1700 songs...more than I have or plan on getting".
You are correct, however 24 bits is a lot to work with if using 10. I could see a clever admin shying away from the "obvious" 10. addys like 10.0.0.x etcetcetc, and may actually have left a plausible signature on an attackers machine, like 10.137.231.66
I agree an in-car conversation can be just as immersing as a cell phone conversation. Actually, I'd say my conversations with passengers are much deeper, and require more thought, than those with people calling me while I'm driving. The difference with a passenger though, is sometimes they will alert the driver to potential danger, and will probably stop talking when there is a road crisis.
FWIW my family members and most of my friends have an understanding that one party can say "I'm driving, let me call you back", and the conversation ends.
I thought the League was an excellent film. No doubt my favorite I plunked down ~$10 to see in 2003. I got completely immersed in the film, and the writing/storytelling was more on par with a good book, compared the watered down crap that is most movies these days.
I think you missed the part of the article that says "These criminals are harming businesses in Virginia, and that concerns us,"
I think though 20 years is a bit extreme. I don't think he'll get all 20. 20 is probably a good place to start bargaining, he can probably plea it down to 3 or 4, which IMO is appropriate. Somehow though, I don't think this will put a dent in the 100's I of spam I get every day.
All the criteria you presented are fine engineering criteria.
Had only my ex-gf's dad's colleague mentioned just one of them, I might consider him to be more good than evil. As an engineer, the first criteria to cross his mind was "how much will it cost my customer when my product kills one of their customers". If that's what it means to be an engineer, I'll happily remain a programmer, where making things "better" acutally means "better".
All of those are sound engineering criteria. My point was that the engineer in question cared only about the cost of wrongful death litigation.
A key to survival, in a surviable plane crash, is your seat staying anchored to the floor plate it is attached to, rather than breaking loose and tumbling somersault style. Passengers are instructed to grasp their heads between their arms as a countermeasure. BTW I think Carbon Fiber may come in at a similar, if not lower weight, with superior strength to aluminum. Sure it costs more, and is usually reserved for airframe components at this time. What economies of scale would come into play if every airplane seat were instead made of carbon fiber? I'm not a materials engineer, so I have no idea. And if 1lb = $20K a year as someone else mentioned, what's the crossover, if indeed it is lighter? My ex-gf's dad's colleague would never know because he's only concerned with the cost of wrongful death litigation. As long as he's considered that, his job is done.
How about those people sucked out of the Hawaii-bound 747 when the latch came loose and ripped a hole in the fuselage? If their seats had stayed anchored... What a way to go...One minute sipping a tasty beverage, next you're just in the air and falling real fast.
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.NET is the next step in the logarithmically expanding Microsoft security problem. DUH!
All office apps already have that option. The problem is the average moron doesn't know enough to choose a different format.
An Apple Reseller cannot "sell some eMacs to a school". All educational sales go direct to Apple.
Any scrupulous Apple Reseller will kick the sale if it is shipped to a school address or once they discover it's a school, because there contract says Apple has exclusive access to schools. Even The Apple Store will refer you to Apple Education Sales.
Who knows....maybe those guys were soldering Apple I's together in the garage with the Steves? Still not quite 30 years but closer than the 20 between the Mac and the present.
You think it's any different for PC vendors? Bottom line: there's no money in hardware. The only money is in service.
It's called service my friend. I buy something from a dealer, I take it to the dealer when there's a problem. My VW dealers have never told me to call Volkswagen to get my car fixed.
Let me put it to you from a different perspective....why should I give my money to a reseller, when the level of service is the same as buying it from macconnection.com? Note I don't have to pay sales tax to macconnection, so why should I pay more for the privilege of my dealer telling me to call the manufacturer?
It's exactly your attitude that I'm talking about. "It's not my problem" I've never got that from The Apple Store. The resellers deal with their supplier is not my problem; I gave my money in good faith to the RESELLER not Apple. Therefore, I expect service from the RESELLER. And I think maybe you missed the real point...this particular reseller (*cough* Di-No) missed out on selling me not one but two powerbooks, a G5, a 17" and a 23" Cinema, all because of that attitude. IMO they deserve to be out of business for failing to take advantage of the opportunities right in front of their face.
If the margins aren't there for an Apple reseller, then perhaps this type of channel cleansing is a good thing, no?
Yeah I'm kind of echoing what a lot of people here are saying, I have a little different spin on it though.
There are a handful of legendary Apple Resellers that I have heard of. Never experienced, just heard of them. For this handful of stores, it is a most unfortunate situation.
All of the resellers I have dealt with were complete crap. Bozo sales people that couldn't field the simplest questions about specificaitons. Service people "I think it's fixed", "OH, you wanted that data?", and my favorite: "you need to call Apple". (I maintained a school network of at first 8 Mac SEs, eventually over 100 i/eMacs and PowerMacs over a 12 year period, so I know)
Aside from my professional experience, I decided to purchase a PM/933 from a local reseller, rather than drive across L.A. or pay shipping. When I ran across the screen spasms (turned out to be a driver problem), first they blamed my non-apple display. So I bought an Apple Display (this time from the Apple Store btw). Problem persisted. I pointed out the 900+ post on the Apple discussion forums to the service techs. Still nothing. "You need to call Apple", from their top dog tech whom I previously had respect for. Why should *I* have to call Apple? I just handed them a small fortune for the system, shouldn't *they* call Apple? Wanna guess how many more dollars I spent there?
I'm sure before the Apple Retail Project came into conception, Apple had heard thousands of stories just like mine. They knew opening retail stores would piss off a bunch of people, people that had helped them stay in business. They knew they would be sued. They knew little soapbox nazis would cry out about the injustice of it all. They also knew they had no choice but to surgically remove the cancer that had been eroding the value of their brand for the past decade. It was a simple cost:benefit analysis.
Really, do you think the iPod would have smashed the competition without The Apple Store? I remember taking a trip to New York a couple of months after the iPod was introduced. One of the retail shops my family owns is 3 blocks away from the SOHO Appple Store, so I had a chance to hang out and watch the street. Everywhere I looked, white headphones, white headphones, white headphones. Funny when I went uptown, not so many white headphones.
It's the day of purchase.
Sent my previous PB-667 in 363 days after purchase because the feet came off. It was returned to me in 3 days with a new case and a new battery (because one of the feet that fell off was on the battery).
Have either of you guys actually seen the text of this message?
Neither have I but I am sure (because it's Mac OS X) it goes a lot farther to empower and help the user understand the implications of their actions than the 'Always Trust Content from Gator Corp.' dialog you get with Internet Exploder.
Windows may have been involved but I'll bet a days wages that outsourcing has something to do with this.
I vote Cowboy Neal
Obviously, it's next to the "any" key.
I see, so we don't trust SPEC any longer?
electronic signature
which might be binding if "electronic signature" were an actual term of art
And I hate to say it, most geek toys cost more than $100.
Here's an idea: get him something that is not geek-oriented at all. He will probably treasure it more than something destined to end up in one of his techno-junk piles or handed down to his "lower-tech" buddies.
You're thinking like a geek. Extra space? Removable what? These are the responses you'll get from an iPod mini customer. If you show them the larger, white box, they'll point at the mini and say "this one is cuter and smaller". And if you get a savvy ipod mini shopper, they'll say "1700 songs...more than I have or plan on getting".
You are correct, however 24 bits is a lot to work with if using 10. I could see a clever admin shying away from the "obvious" 10. addys like 10.0.0.x etcetcetc, and may actually have left a plausible signature on an attackers machine, like 10.137.231.66
Assuming a lot of liability...perhaps. Creating a situation that provides plausible denaibility...maybe that is the case.
I agree an in-car conversation can be just as immersing as a cell phone conversation. Actually, I'd say my conversations with passengers are much deeper, and require more thought, than those with people calling me while I'm driving. The difference with a passenger though, is sometimes they will alert the driver to potential danger, and will probably stop talking when there is a road crisis.
FWIW my family members and most of my friends have an understanding that one party can say "I'm driving, let me call you back", and the conversation ends.
I think also the Tomahawk was designed to comply with a boundary in one of our strategic missile treaties.
(SMACKS AC upside the head) Looks like a press release to me, since it is it the "News" section under "Headlines".
I thought the League was an excellent film. No doubt my favorite I plunked down ~$10 to see in 2003. I got completely immersed in the film, and the writing/storytelling was more on par with a good book, compared the watered down crap that is most movies these days.
I think you missed the part of the article that says "These criminals are harming businesses in Virginia, and that concerns us,"
I think though 20 years is a bit extreme. I don't think he'll get all 20. 20 is probably a good place to start bargaining, he can probably plea it down to 3 or 4, which IMO is appropriate. Somehow though, I don't think this will put a dent in the 100's I of spam I get every day.
All the criteria you presented are fine engineering criteria.
Had only my ex-gf's dad's colleague mentioned just one of them, I might consider him to be more good than evil. As an engineer, the first criteria to cross his mind was "how much will it cost my customer when my product kills one of their customers". If that's what it means to be an engineer, I'll happily remain a programmer, where making things "better" acutally means "better".
All of those are sound engineering criteria. My point was that the engineer in question cared only about the cost of wrongful death litigation.
A key to survival, in a surviable plane crash, is your seat staying anchored to the floor plate it is attached to, rather than breaking loose and tumbling somersault style. Passengers are instructed to grasp their heads between their arms as a countermeasure. BTW I think Carbon Fiber may come in at a similar, if not lower weight, with superior strength to aluminum. Sure it costs more, and is usually reserved for airframe components at this time. What economies of scale would come into play if every airplane seat were instead made of carbon fiber? I'm not a materials engineer, so I have no idea. And if 1lb = $20K a year as someone else mentioned, what's the crossover, if indeed it is lighter? My ex-gf's dad's colleague would never know because he's only concerned with the cost of wrongful death litigation. As long as he's considered that, his job is done.
How about those people sucked out of the Hawaii-bound 747 when the latch came loose and ripped a hole in the fuselage? If their seats had stayed anchored... What a way to go...One minute sipping a tasty beverage, next you're just in the air and falling real fast.