I didn't say anything about enforced conformity? Why did you think I was talking about that?
Most likely because it was implied.
What I was saying is that drug use affects people's lives in a negative way - nothing more, nothing less.
This countries drug laws have a more negative effect that any drug ever could. Do you enjoy wasting $30+ Billion each year? We are to the delight of the drug lords.
What? You dislike the South American drug lords? Well then why do you support a status quo that enables them to make boat loads of money? Yeah, I guess history is beyond you (and basic economics).
If you want to live an unhappy, unproductive life, that's fucking fine with me. But don't tell me that
doesn't affect the people around you in a negative way.
Well, buddy it doesn't. Drug laws adversly affect my life more that the use of drugs ever has. Arbitrary laws effect me more any drug usage does.
You think your an American (or anyother lover of freedom); well your a fascist goon, nothing more.
Everything a person does each day has the possiblilty of effecting someone else. I think that you are being willfully ignorant of what the OP is speaking of.
Should mountian climbing be prohibited because of the possible victim(s)? How about driving a car?
I think that most reasonable people will only object against an action when there is actually a victim.
You seem to thing that drug use _always_ has a victim. That is not the case. Most often the victim is made by the laws passed. Or that only dangerous drugs are available to most people (cigs and alcohol).
Religion is the opium for the masses? Nonsense, legalized marijuanna (as well as opium) will be the
opium for the masses, as Vodka was to the people of the former USSR.
Well, that is fine by me. At least Marijuana and Opium are more safe than either alcohol or religion.
Freedom can be assured but it must be given a nudge.
It is ironic that your sig mentions freedom. Yet in your several posts you seem to want to deny others the basic freedom to injest things of their choice.
So, I'm just asking you to please not be a bigot. Think rationally.
It was made into existence by way of an Ammendment (that was subsequently repealed by another one...)
Income tax, is also Constitutional- but not in the form we know of it today.
I agree with you but, what the OP should have said was that both the income tax and prohibition are against the ideals of our country and (oh, what the hell..) the Declaration of Independance.;)
Freedom is something more absolute and lasting than anything in the Constitution (great as it is). The Constitution only enumerates our innate rights.
CO2 is also a pollutant from many human-made processes, so we would be stupid to discount the
possibility that we are largely responsible. All I'm saying is to remember the distinction between
proven fact and possibility.
That is not blind sarcasm. That's how science works.
Certainly, your right. I'm no climitologist but my gut as an engineer is the feeling that is this: it is pretty odd that this increased has happened while we are here. The history of CO2 concentration is pretty flat, the rise only began recently. Telling huhh?
Concrete, absolute proof may not be available for decades. Lets work toward sensable solutions (that we will have to adopt eventually anyway) in the mean time.
Why do you want to wait for proof that it is us that is causing these effects? I'm not saying you personlly are, just your argument:) These things are happening, we should work to stabilize the situation...
There is a lot of "pretty good" evidence that the world really is warming up in recent centuries.
I agree with you. What we do have is Really good evidence on is the increase of CO2 in Earths atmosphere. This is well documented there are no arguments what so ever. A graph of concentration verses time is frightenly exponintial. These measurements are taken from Hawaii btw.
Whether this increase will/is cause global warming is another question. Personally I pity the fools living on the East coast of America. I've got the Appalachian Mtns. to protect me, at least from the hurricanes (the heat will get us though, well it already does).
What I want to say is don't discount humans affecting earths weather. We can. The increasing CO2 concentration shows we can do this much (at least regarding the composition of the atmosphere). Come on folks think! Don't be blindly sarcastic.
"One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
-- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Many people seem to forget that laws aren't absolute, the fact of jury nullifcation illustrates this well..
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maybe if Tom Brokow started drinking beer during the broadcast and
starting throwing in the occasional (cough) "BullShit!" the news would have the youger audience.
While this sounds good, it won't work in practice.
Designing an engine that operates effenciently on multiple fuels is pretty hard to do (gasoline and methanol mixtures are difficult to do, not to say many different fuels). Sadly this competiton won't happen between car engines, but only fuels.
Personally my bets are on electric or hybrid autos. Making a super effecient single fuel engine will always be easier that a multi-fuel one.
Tree rings, ice cores, spring flood deposits... none of these can do anything to validate or invalidate a set of assumptions about the initial isotopes involved in carbon dating.
Sure they can. To use tree rings as an example:
You have a tree sample and you date it by counting its rings. You know the amount of C-14 in live tissue. So you can make a good assumtion about the amount of C-14 in the older tissue of the tree based on the half-life of C-14.
This way assumtions are tested, refined and improved by other people.
...they can't validate the assumptions without a causal link.
Just how do you think science operates? Once you get in to the nitty-gritty (away from basic laws and theories) science is upheld by a web of observations, facts and theory. It is not held up high on a pedestal untouched by anything else.
These causal links do not invalidate assumptions, but strenghen them.
Its good to see this struck down and to see that some people still value free speech. Some other important legislation that effects free speech and linking of the net is the bill known as the Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act.
One of the main problems with the bill is this:
Additionally, the bill would allow federal law enforcement officers to search people's homes while they're not there and copy their computer files without notifying them for months, possibly years, that the police were in their homes.
When a program your developing does crash you get a core file. Debug it and find out where the crash happened at! Really saves debugging time, just set a breakpoint before the point where it bombs out and you have saved your self stepping through the whole thing!
Now if I could discover why my parser segfaults I'd be happy! Note: don't use a C parser in C++ code:(
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Yep, I understand what your talking about. In fact coding small projects is the best way to learn. You work on something useful to yourself that you will use in future. The biggest downfall is that I sometimes skimp on the amount of helpful error messages I put in:)
I'd like to suggest my all time favorite coding project: a signature file rotator. Its simple and a good way to learn new languages. After that make ~/.signature a FIFO so that every read will return a different sig! Lots of possibilities.
Which was frankly a disgraceful way to treat someone who had more to do with defeating the Nazis than any other single person.
The worst thing about the situation is that Turing couldn't reveal anything about his war-time accomplishments. It was all still declaired secret.
During his trial he couldn't say "Look I'm a national hero, I helped crack German codes." At Virginia Tech I met a fellow who worked with him (and for the life of me can't remember his name, nice English fellow) and he felt that it was terrible that this couldn't be entered during the trials Turing went through. Things like that suck.
I attend Virginia Tech and while some courses do have their own vt.* newsgroups most often used are mailing lists. Most professers in CS, ECpE and EE fully support them and they are widely used.
Also, email is going to be more commonly used by most students i.e. they know how to use it already. Most profs. also use the listserv to send notices to the class and info thats sorta important. I use Usenet to a great extent but newsgroups, I feel, wouldn't be checked as often as email would. Now using an email newsgroup gateway would give the best of both situations...
Plus, I filter out and seperate my course listservs to seperate mailboxs, so I don't have to look at it is I don't want:) Thank goodness for procmail!
I believe that trading copyrighted material is wrong without compensating the authors. BUT, until record publish $1 a pop mp3's of all artists songs for me to checkout/buy I see nothing wrong with trading mp3s.
There is no alteritive at this time. I would think differently if legitimate mp3s could be easily bought.
Sadly the riaa will want a crufty encrypted audio format (thats propriatory). Oh well.
Well, my IBM 2-button is over 6 years old and works fine (It's currently hooked to my backup machine). My present mouse is a Logitech Mouseman, over three years and no problems...
I can only think you have seen lemon mice:) Or, ones that have been subjected to abuse.
Man, I love my Logitech three button! It's the best mouse I've used.
What if you don't want to break that law? Is it immoral to go about your business normally and also in compliance with an "immoral" law?
No, I don't believe it is. What I do think is immoral is the willful ignorance and disregard that our politicions and LEO's show toward the public in this country and those in the Southern Hemisphere. It's also immoral, IMO, to support the War on Drugs, it should be denounced at every chance.
I believe that laws on mary-wana are extreme (though I wouldn't want it to be entirely unregulated anymore than I would support that for alcohol or tobacco)... immoral for me to live my life as I would choose regardless of drug laws than to go out and committ a crime just to do it?
Rest easy. Your not an immoral person:) Unless you want me or anyone else to live as you do (and threaten to imprison them if they do otherwise).
But, my basic feeling is this: tact support of the War on (some) Drugs is to also support for the corruption, the Columbian cartels/druglords and the violence. These are all caused by the War, not drugs themselves. Makeing the possession of wrist watchs a felony would have the same negative effects, cartels etc.
Well it depends. A felony is not a black and white thing, there are shades of gray involved also. I would want to know what a person was convicted of before making any judgement.
And it's everyone fault that a "dispropotionate number of black males" are convicted felons? You break the law; you pay the price.
No, it isn't everyone's fault. It's the fault of bad laws. Drug laws exspecially. You can become a felon by being convicted of possessing mushrooms (or any Sced. 1 drug). Sure you pay the price, but why is the price for the above mentioned possession a felony?
The real issue is that there is nothing inherently felonous about mushroom (or cocaine) possession. They are arbitrarily assigned felonies. If there were any logic or reason behind them being felonies then it would be a felony to possess tobacco (which is far more dangerous than any illegal drug).
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money made from drug sales?
Sure why not? I'd take money from that, Bush or RG Renolnds. They are no different.
Ever wondered why drug lords haven't been stopped in Colombia?
Never wondered, I KNOW why. Prohibition is the reason. It's odd that now the liquor dealer the town over no longer attacks the dealer here in town. In the 1920-30's it was common, Capone, etc.
You don't like drug lords? Then don't let them make a profit. You can't legislate them away (while at the same time you make it profitable to sell drugs).
Our local hardware store sells these small devices that plug into the phone line. When you recieve a telemarketing call just push the button on the box and then hangup the phone.
What happens then is that a digitized voice tells the person to not call again/be removed from their list, etc.
It doesn't stop them from calling but at least you don't have to talk to them.
The sudo utility is great. With it you can give root access to users only for certain commands. Certainly, using groups is very useful but, if you need more fine grained control sudo is the best way to go.
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Most likely because it was implied.
What I was saying is that drug use affects people's lives in a negative way - nothing more, nothing less.
This countries drug laws have a more negative effect that any drug ever could. Do you enjoy wasting $30+ Billion each year? We are to the delight of the drug lords.
What? You dislike the South American drug lords? Well then why do you support a status quo that enables them to make boat loads of money? Yeah, I guess history is beyond you (and basic economics).
If you want to live an unhappy, unproductive life, that's fucking fine with me. But don't tell me that doesn't affect the people around you in a negative way.
Well, buddy it doesn't. Drug laws adversly affect my life more that the use of drugs ever has. Arbitrary laws effect me more any drug usage does.
You think your an American (or anyother lover of freedom); well your a fascist goon, nothing more.
Everything a person does each day has the possiblilty of effecting someone else. I think that you are being willfully ignorant of what the OP is speaking of.
Should mountian climbing be prohibited because of the possible victim(s)? How about driving a car?
I think that most reasonable people will only object against an action when there is actually a victim.
You seem to thing that drug use _always_ has a victim. That is not the case. Most often the victim is made by the laws passed. Or that only dangerous drugs are available to most people (cigs and alcohol).
Well, that is fine by me. At least Marijuana and Opium are more safe than either alcohol or religion.
It is ironic that your sig mentions freedom. Yet in your several posts you seem to want to deny others the basic freedom to injest things of their choice.
So, I'm just asking you to please not be a bigot. Think rationally.
Income tax, is also Constitutional- but not in the form we know of it today.
I agree with you but, what the OP should have said was that both the income tax and prohibition are against the ideals of our country and (oh, what the hell..) the Declaration of Independance. ;)
Freedom is something more absolute and lasting than anything in the Constitution (great as it is). The Constitution only enumerates our innate rights.
That is not blind sarcasm. That's how science works.
Certainly, your right. I'm no climitologist but my gut as an engineer is the feeling that is this: it is pretty odd that this increased has happened while we are here. The history of CO2 concentration is pretty flat, the rise only began recently. Telling huhh?
Concrete, absolute proof may not be available for decades. Lets work toward sensable solutions (that we will have to adopt eventually anyway) in the mean time.
Why do you want to wait for proof that it is us that is causing these effects? I'm not saying you personlly are, just your argument :) These things are happening, we should work to stabilize the situation...
I agree with you. What we do have is Really good evidence on is the increase of CO2 in Earths atmosphere. This is well documented there are no arguments what so ever. A graph of concentration verses time is frightenly exponintial. These measurements are taken from Hawaii btw.
Whether this increase will/is cause global warming is another question. Personally I pity the fools living on the East coast of America. I've got the Appalachian Mtns. to protect me, at least from the hurricanes (the heat will get us though, well it already does).
What I want to say is don't discount humans affecting earths weather. We can. The increasing CO2 concentration shows we can do this much (at least regarding the composition of the atmosphere). Come on folks think! Don't be blindly sarcastic.
The quotes author is P. J. O'Rourke.
One of my favorite quotes is this:
"One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Many people seem to forget that laws aren't absolute, the fact of jury nullifcation illustrates this well..
Ha, Ha I've now got a new .sig!
Thanks!
Designing an engine that operates effenciently on multiple fuels is pretty hard to do (gasoline and methanol mixtures are difficult to do, not to say many different fuels). Sadly this competiton won't happen between car engines, but only fuels.
Personally my bets are on electric or hybrid autos. Making a super effecient single fuel engine will always be easier that a multi-fuel one.
Sure they can. To use tree rings as an example:
You have a tree sample and you date it by counting its rings. You know the amount of C-14 in live tissue. So you can make a good assumtion about the amount of C-14 in the older tissue of the tree based on the half-life of C-14.
This way assumtions are tested, refined and improved by other people.
Just how do you think science operates? Once you get in to the nitty-gritty (away from basic laws and theories) science is upheld by a web of observations, facts and theory. It is not held up high on a pedestal untouched by anything else.
These causal links do not invalidate assumptions, but strenghen them.
The only parallel is that the end result is the same.
One of the main problems with the bill is this:
Some coverage can be found here.
Now if I could discover why my parser segfaults I'd be happy! Note: don't use a C parser in C++ code :(
I'd like to suggest my all time favorite coding project: a signature file rotator. Its simple and a good way to learn new languages. After that make ~/.signature a FIFO so that every read will return a different sig! Lots of possibilities.
The worst thing about the situation is that Turing couldn't reveal anything about his war-time accomplishments. It was all still declaired secret.
During his trial he couldn't say "Look I'm a national hero, I helped crack German codes." At Virginia Tech I met a fellow who worked with him (and for the life of me can't remember his name, nice English fellow) and he felt that it was terrible that this couldn't be entered during the trials Turing went through. Things like that suck.
Also, email is going to be more commonly used by most students i.e. they know how to use it already. Most profs. also use the listserv to send notices to the class and info thats sorta important. I use Usenet to a great extent but newsgroups, I feel, wouldn't be checked as often as email would. Now using an email newsgroup gateway would give the best of both situations...
Plus, I filter out and seperate my course listservs to seperate mailboxs, so I don't have to look at it is I don't want :) Thank goodness for procmail!
There is no alteritive at this time. I would think differently if legitimate mp3s could be easily bought.
Sadly the riaa will want a crufty encrypted audio format (thats propriatory). Oh well.
I can only think you have seen lemon mice :) Or, ones that have been subjected to abuse.
Man, I love my Logitech three button! It's the best mouse I've used.
No, I don't believe it is. What I do think is immoral is the willful ignorance and disregard that our politicions and LEO's show toward the public in this country and those in the Southern Hemisphere. It's also immoral, IMO, to support the War on Drugs, it should be denounced at every chance.
I believe that laws on mary-wana are extreme (though I wouldn't want it to be entirely unregulated anymore than I would support that for alcohol or tobacco)... immoral for me to live my life as I would choose regardless of drug laws than to go out and committ a crime just to do it?
Rest easy. Your not an immoral person :) Unless you want me or anyone else to live as you do (and threaten to imprison them if they do otherwise).
But, my basic feeling is this: tact support of the War on (some) Drugs is to also support for the corruption, the Columbian cartels/druglords and the violence. These are all caused by the War, not drugs themselves. Makeing the possession of wrist watchs a felony would have the same negative effects, cartels etc.
Well it depends. A felony is not a black and white thing, there are shades of gray involved also. I would want to know what a person was convicted of before making any judgement.
And it's everyone fault that a "dispropotionate number of black males" are convicted felons? You break the law; you pay the price.
No, it isn't everyone's fault. It's the fault of bad laws. Drug laws exspecially. You can become a felon by being convicted of possessing mushrooms (or any Sced. 1 drug). Sure you pay the price, but why is the price for the above mentioned possession a felony?
The real issue is that there is nothing inherently felonous about mushroom (or cocaine) possession. They are arbitrarily assigned felonies. If there were any logic or reason behind them being felonies then it would be a felony to possess tobacco (which is far more dangerous than any illegal drug).
Sure why not? I'd take money from that, Bush or RG Renolnds. They are no different.
Ever wondered why drug lords haven't been stopped in Colombia?
Never wondered, I KNOW why. Prohibition is the reason. It's odd that now the liquor dealer the town over no longer attacks the dealer here in town. In the 1920-30's it was common, Capone, etc.
You don't like drug lords? Then don't let them make a profit. You can't legislate them away (while at the same time you make it profitable to sell drugs).
How soon people forget the lessons of history.
What happens then is that a digitized voice tells the person to not call again/be removed from their list, etc.
It doesn't stop them from calling but at least you don't have to talk to them.
The sudo utility is great. With it you can give root access to users only for certain commands.
Certainly, using groups is very useful but, if you need more fine grained control sudo is the best way to go.