Anyway - I'm just tired of hearing this tired, recycled bull about "laptop fuel cells" - I was on board with it until the 2nd story came out around the time cells hyped in the first article were supposed to see market...
It seems like the "this will be on the shelves by" date has getting incremented by 12 to 18 months each time the story sees daylight since the I first started seeing it in - what, 2003? 2004?
The point about it that disrupts the "willfull suspension of disbelief" that I typically rely on when trying to grasp most other "news" is the ongoing emphasis on form factor: If "they" realy can make a methanol fuel cell with sufficient current to e.g. power a laptop computer, why don't they just put it on the market with a cord that will plug in as the present-day power supply brick does?
Such a device would be generic to the point that it could be used with a wide variety of models, as well as with devices that are not computers - but just try asking for a "19-volt 200W methane fuel cell" in Best Buy or Radio Shack and see what you get...
software is NOT always the best solution for every problem, especially when it comes to security.
.... you say this [the above], the procede to make an argument based solely on funcitonality and support of software packages available. Do you have anything to back up your initial statement there, that non-Open software is somehow better for applications that require "security" (a vague term at best, in this context, I think - are you talking security against networked crackers, automated worm attacks, attempts to de-crypt encrypted data... )? I'm not trying to "flame" you, but you don't support the your statement at all in your post, and I honestly can't think of an instance where proprietary or closed source software is "more secure" than F/OSS...
I can not take a course on Linux at my local Community College.
You should move to where there's a better community college - I think it may even be safe to use the word "most" when describing how many schools there are across the country now that are teaching Linux, FreeBSD, or both. Are you saying your school doesn't offer it, or that you can't take it for some other reason?
As a sidelight, note that many schools that have recieved endowments from M$ (thru one channel or another) have magickally dropped the course-work they once had that didn't require the purchase (at a student discount, of course) of M$ products - if that's what's going on at your school, you might want to address it with your administration - after all, when you're paying for an education, they're defrauding you if they don't give you what you pay for - regardless of what M$ is paying them (under the table) not to teach you....
out in to the real world as system administrators and/or programmers, they will have a better chance to find a job if they know Windows and Linux
Not sure just what sector of the real world you're talking about, here, but *I* won't hire you if you don't understand operating systems generally (we're talking critical embedded systems here - the stuff that's going to outlive the users who are thinking they need a "new" obsolete PC), and have some skill with anything that can be called one. "Platform Independance" and "Language Independant" aren't just test questions in the Real World outside Microsoft Applications Land - a rich and profitable land to be sure, but nothing grows there so all [brain] food must be imported, and life expectancy is pretty short generally due to contaminated memepools, rarified atmospheres, and the mind numbing depressions induced by the incredibly bleak cyberscapes...)
Anyway - all that said, I do agree with you about support for F/OSS - it is overall diffcult to access, often hard to understand, and generally just unusable for those who are not already to some degree techinical initiates. And that does need to change. Imo.
Exactly where do you think the line is between "I disagree with your ideas" and "Shut the fuck up, you're an idiot?"
Well, it's mostly a matter of language, which I think is fairly well defined elsewhere so I won't go into it here...
One fosters discussion and the advancement of ideas and knowledge; the other just makes you look like a clown.
So you want to go to your interpretation of what he said and what you think it means about him? Funny, that's pretty much what I was doing, but you decided to go all ad hominem on me. Hmmm, you didn't seem to understand "Dumbass" - how do take your "Fuck Off" - w/ cream or w/o?
Are you interested in the debate at all, or do you just come to the internet to swing your dick around?
Are you really interested in my enormous e-penis, or do you just come to slashdot to watch.
In this case, you do miss your guess, by a mile.
Ahem. Well, obviously not.
Honestly, when you come out swinging ("Dumbass," "You think you have nothing left to learn," etc.) you just show your ass.
Well, in the same spirit of Honesty and Forthright Expression, it is a really fine ass, I guess I just take a lot of pride in it.
Not everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, capisce?
Well, I must point out that I wasn't calling everyone who disagrees with me a dumbas - just you. So does this mean you disagree with me? Does this mean you don't believe this is an open forum?
As for the parent: I think you're reading too much into his rhetoric, simple as that. Maybe he's saying that everyone who disagrees with him should STFU (and so, to him, freedom of speech should not exist). However, I think it's more likely that this is just the way he writes--just as with you, everyone who disagrees is obviously stupid. If you believe that, then which one of us really thinks he's learned it all?
So what's your point, here? I don't really care what he meant or what you think he might have meant, or why you think it's important. I simply pointed out that this is a public forum and his stated desire to squelch dissent didn't match up very well with the rest of his persona which he laid out in the first part of his post - it's a moral and philosphical inconsistancy, and I stand by my remarks about it, despite your wild - nay, hysterical - attrack on what you imagine to be my character.
Which brings us right back around to you and the question "wtf do you care, anyway?" So? Why are you in this? You're not adding anything, hell, you're not even making sense - are you a Republican, or something?
If you think he is incorrect you should be able to challenge his beliefs without resorting to ad hominem attacks. He's only voicing his opinion. If that's bullying then I have a pot and a kettle I want to show you.
Dumbass - there's a differnce between simply "that's dumb" and telling someone they should "be quiet" - I have no problem arguing with him "ad hominem" or otherwise - he's the one who took the position of demand that others not respond. You should go back and read the thread.
Furthermore, I believe I stated that I agreed with what he was saying right up to the point where he demanded that others not challenge his opinion. I can only hope he learned more from the exchange than you obviously did. Unless I miss my guess you are one of those who believes they have nothing left to learn...
Let me explain a few things outside of this debate.
This is not a debate, this is public forum where we all get to speak our piece. I have done so (repeatedly), and stand by the post to which you are attempting to respond (at least, I think you were attempting to respond - you didn't actually address anything in my post - probably because you are not as clever as you think you are, but I'll leave that for a later "proof". Clue: This is not about me - or you either, for that matter...
Basically:
your post is crap
you are beside the point
you didn't manage to piss me off (your stated goal)
In short: Game over, you lose, please play again... yes, do feel free to try again later when you have have some more tokens, eh?
PS: If you really are my ex-wife, and you just wanted to berate me in public, that's cool - I would just suggest you set up a seperate forum or topic for 0x0000-bashing, rather that trying to shoehorn it into a discussion about something else...
I believe government exists to defend the liberty of its citizens [...] keep it to yourself.
Well, I was with you up to those last 4 words. I guess you're note "lockstop" on minor issues like Speech, eh?
Why are you really so afraid of the idea of organized resistence to the (Totalitarian) Regime that currently controls the US? AFter all, you can just shoot the protestestors, right? It's not as though they have any right to participate in the determination of how their government acts, right? Hell, in your view, they're probably not even ciitizens - or at least, not as fully endowed with the Rights and Privileges of Citizenship as yourself, eh? I mean, you are a "conservative libertarian" - you have the Correct view of the government, right?
Perhaps the phrase "shooting yourself in the foot" would have some meaning for you? As a supporter of the Constitution of the United States of America, (you were sworn to uphold and protect that document, right?) I decry your attempt to bully others into silence in a public forum.
mostly what he expressed is opinion.. you may very well disagree.. but that certainly doens't make him a moron
You're making assumptions. It's not whether or not anyone dis/agrees that makes him a moron, it's the opinion(s) he posted.
Specificly, disagreeing with a moronic opinion is not mutually exclusive with the holder or purveyor of the opinion being a moron - a moron is a moron, independant of whether or not anyone agrees or disagrees with the moronic opinions expressed by said moron.
let's see how many pro-bush comments are modded up vs how many anti-bush comments are modded up.
Why would anyone in their right mind mod up a pro-Bush comment?
You are creating a completely spurious and hypothetical argument, here. Those that support the Regime are mostly too stoopid to figure out how to post - and those that have the requisite chimpanzee skills to work a keyboard are incapable of composing a coherent message of support.
Furthermore, any message of support for Dubya would de facto have to include a lot of lies (i.e. BULLSHIT), and since that's one thing that does function pretty well around here is the bullshit detectors, well, you're just shit outta luck, buddro.
Let me also point out to you that, in supporting the dumbasses in the Whitehouse, you are not "resisting the group-think", you're just demonstrating that you are of below-average intelligence.
good lord did he rape your mother or something?
Well, the perp is a Republican, so it was probably not the mother. Probably more like the little brother. It was Clinton liked the femmes, remember? That seemed to piss you guys off, for some reason...
calm down.
Hey, you're the one whose panting and sweating, whining and begging that the rest of us please quit talking about your little bitch Dubya and his bitch dom Cheney. Calm down yerself.
look i understand the typical./er doesn't like bush
Do you really? I don't think you do, or you would understand that it's not about "like", it's about things like Patriotism and the Constitution. It's about America before it was taken over by a Fascist Regime. "Like" doesn't figure into it. It's about the Constutution, the Rule of Law, Freedom, Democracy, and (of course) Economics. And no, no one expects you to understand any of that, it's obvious to all that you're... politically challenged, shall we say.
One day we'll have to sit down and talk about that "typical./er" remark, too - I hear a lot from the fanatics on your team about "typical slashdotters" - they've never managed to demonstrate the alleged phenomenon to my satistfaction, note - but you're the first I've noticed raving about dot-slashers...
but would you all please stop talking like this?
Like what? Like Americans? Like people who care? Like people who know wtf they're talking about? Why? Do those things bother you so much? No wonder you support a regime that promises you it will make everything the same - make it all go away...
Of couse, it may be that you're confusing/. with the voices in your head - if so, I can tell you in good confidence that you need to drink heavily. And take more drugs. It really does help.
or atleast stop acting like this is unique.
Actually, if you go back and check, you'll find that it is
jobs at an aerospace corporation where the employees were taken seriously[emphasis mine]
Heheh. Good one. You had me going right up until that last statement.... *snicker* aerospace... take s/w seriously *guffaw* I'll have to remember that one...
You can love your country and hate the current administration. There is no conflict between those positions.
It might be useful if someone could make this point to the Regime and its brownshirt supporters. The fact that they don't "get it" means to me that - quite simply - they are not Americans. They're Fascists, through and through. No tolerance for dissent, no tolerance for the democractic process. The fact that the current Regime cannot tolerate any person or behaviour except what they have defined as correct will ultimately lead to what the Regime will call "civil war" and what the rest of us will call "revolution". I guess it's just too much to ask that neo-cons learn anything from history.
You might want to check that factoid. I remember seeing t.v. news broadcasts to the effect that the CIA has been given operational authority within the US to e.g. make arrests and conduct "investigations" - naturally these new powers will never be used against US citizens, but it definitely goes beyond cooperation and sharing of information.
(You are better off using gas, wood, etc. for heating and cooking in emergency circumstances. A solar system [heh] that could run your electric range would be formidable.)
I've seen some really slick designs for solar cookers - both commercial and DIY - that might be preferable to cooking over fire if one is trying to save either $$ or the environment. Sorry I don't have links handy...
A/C? Right out. VERY current-hungry.
... in fact, any sort of inductive motor load could be considered too "heavy" - that would be anything that has an AC motor in it: AC, fridge, washing machine, dryer, etc. There are alternatives for most of these, but conversion is required to uncouple the functionality from the 120V/60hz AC power grids.
Convenction systems for heating and cooling are interesting...
Yet you have pointed out that musicians are often interested in programming.
Actually, I was getting at the fact that both programming and music have a common basis: mathematics (also the language of science), and that this tendency of musicians to be interested in coding works both ways - many programmers moonlight as musicians or have a high degree of interest in playing music as a "hobby".
This relation between code and music is well-known and long-standing - the war department during WWII used musicians as code breakers, for instance... I think that basically supports your point while expanding on it a bit...
Just be wary of seeing obvious patterns, some of the computer scientists I work with see 'patterns' in everyone elses' behaviour and tell them how they behave is so obvious etc. In practice this pisses off the listener, and the proposer is often wrong.
LoL. Uhm, yeah. Okay. Sounds like a personal problem - not unexpected, since given the obvious pattern that exists in the makeup of your band, one could trivially conclude that everyone in the group is probably a bit fascinated with patterns and their meanings - in fact, I would postulate that such a group of people would probably argue about those meanings quite frequently...
I just find your statement that the makeup of the group (w.r.t. science/programming) is "conincidental" preposterous. Given the long-standing and well-understood relationship between coding ability and musicianship, it is to be expected that there will be a large degree of crossover between the fields, your band being no exception to that rule.
Furthermore, your assertion that makeup is "coincidence" fails to support your point - which I see from your post here is almost certainly part of another pattern.
Seriously, dude, you should... Just chill. WtF is bothering you? I see patterns all over the place, comment on them when I feel like it, and anyone who "gets pissed" about it can just get glad in the same bag they got mad in. I could really give a shit who is "pissed" with the verbalization of the obvious which the pissed seem to have managed to miss completely despite the obviousness of the point. Perhaps you can see the obvious pattern, there, as well, eh?
All the musicians in your band are programmers or scientists. It's a mathematical aptitude thing - the correlation between musicians and programmers has been notable for some time - it is believed to have something to do with the mathematical principles that underlie both fields. People who have musial "talent" are often drawn to the (mathematical) structures in computer science in much the same way they are drawn to the (equally mathematical) structures in music. This seems (to me) to be even more try of people who write music. Creating a musical score is much like creating a computer program - and nowadays in frequenty involves using computer programs, even. I see a pattern there, but I suppose "obvious" may have been too strong a word for the general case...
(all the musicians in my band are computer programmers or scientists - and that is purely coincidental)
Coincidental? There's no such thing as coincidence. You are simply too close to the pattern to see the entirety of it - to anyone outside your band, the pattern is obvious.
What the name of holy hell are you talking about? All that would do is delegitimize the problem and probably just piss everyone off.
Well wtf did it sound like I was talking about?
The RIAA is thugs, and should be treated as such - if they can't be prosecuted (as seems to be the case so far) they should be beat to hell, shot, stabbed, business firebombed, etc etc. Removed from polite society by force. Lynched, even. Strung up by vigilantes who still support the Constitution and the Rule of Law (as opposed to the Rule of the Corporate Dollar). I think I made that pretty clear...
As far as "delegitimizing the problem" - yer newspeak and political correctness are just lame. The "problem" isn't "legitimate" to start with. If a few lawyers were shot over it, it might be taken seriously, but (as your post illustrates) for now it's just a bad joke.
If lives - or even some large amount of money - like Arista records in bankruptcy large - perhaps the RIAA would begin to get the idea that there is some difference between Crime (assault, arson, murder) and passing digital data around a network. The RIAA and their ilk are no strangers to Crime, after all. They built their empire on it.
Pissing everyone off? Well, I think that's pretty much what's called for, eh? You yourself claim no one cares enough about what the RIAA is doing to boycott - and a boycott requires numbers to have any chance at all of success. Hell, I've been boycotting the RIAA since they first started mouthing off against Napster, and I don't even *use* P2P. I just saw their tactic for what it is: A transparent attempt to kill off the use of the Internet for independant media (musicians, in this case). To believe it is anything else is simply naive. People need to be up in arms about this, in short. It (the RIAA's actions) is an infringement of a fundamental liberty: The freedom to communicate.
Remember the riots of 1991? The police officers were still let go.
I believe that supports my point...
Jesus someone needs to teach you some history.
I'm not Jesus, but I'll pass the message along when I see him.
Actually, you totally skipped the part where the city started taking ham-fisted action in response to the boycott and triggered the national attention. See wikipedia.
Well, technically I skipped a whole bunch of stuff, but I have limited time and space to discuss this... Furthermore, you're skipping the part about continued oppression despite the limited success of the Rights movement in the 1960's.
The scale of the problem of the RIAA/MPAA/etc requires something of a broader scope than what Rosa Parks' boycott actually acheived. Ghandi might be a better example of a peaceful resistance, but Ghandi apparently had considerably more patience than I have or than the Founding Fathers of the US seem to have had... I think the paradigm here should be Battle, not Peaceful Resistance. The member companies of the RIAA have killed enough recording artists, destroyed enough lives, and just generally enslaved enough populations to make them a candidate for action against Organized Crime - if we can't get governmental support, the course is clear.
Rosa Parks won govt support by exposing abuse of a population. The RIAA's abuse is about as obvious as it's going to get, and there is no govt support forthcoming absent more drastic action by the victims. A boycott won't even be noticed, since the RIAA will simply continue to blame lost profits on "pirates". You fail to mention just how, exactly, you imagine you will prevent them from continuing to do just that?
The public here is being raped financially by the "entertainment industry" - a rape victim is entitled to deadly force to prevent the crime. You're still trying to pretend that
Imagine what would've happened if in response to Rosa Parks, blacks just stole busses and started driving them to their destinations instead of boycotting.
Or imagine what would have happened if she had, say, firebombed some buses, lynched a city council member, and gotten herself some guns... it probably would have been a lot more effective than the boycott was/is-to-this-day, especially if the panthers had back her play...
The fact that they walked and SACRIFICED showed the companies that they had to yeild and change their policies.
Actually, it was Federal intervention that convinced the companies and the governments to change policy - the walking just convinced them to bring out dogs and turn firehoses on the crowds. It has ever been the unwillingness of the "peaceniks" to break heads that has let the fascist oppressors get the upper hand.
"Sacrifice" just means there's that much more you have to fight to win back.
While Rosa Parks is a wonderful example should one find ones self in her situation, I think a better example for the spot we currently find ourselves in would be the Boston Tea Party: buncha patriots meet at the pub, get likkered up, decide somethings gotta be done; dress up like gangstas and go trash the latest shipment of the product, wiping corporate profits *and* taxation (without representation) for at least a week in a single act of studied mayhem... it seemed to be somehow related to broader changes, but I bet the British didn't think so at the time... took 'em a minit to figure out, it did...
Well, since you would be a criminal, you might not be able to draw welfare (actually, is there still any such things as welfare? I thought the neo-cons put an end to that?).
No, I think that since the RIAA are demanding the criminalization of file sharing behavior, the file sharers should oblige them - deal with the RIAA in terms they can understand: Gang fo thugz to gang of thugz.
E.g. Form an IP Theft Crime Syndicate and respond to each lawsuit with a couple drive-bys at some RIAA member corporate offices. There are more of you than there are of them, and they are highly visible wiht a lot to lose - right out there in the open. Vulnerable.
For the financially disadvantaged (those who can't just dash out and buy a tech 9 or mac 10 or whatever they're called - toss a couple of gasoline bombs thru their plate glass (wait til everyone has gone home if you're squeamish about offing the bastards - but a more useless bunch of dickheads I really have trouble imagining) - show them what "losses" are really all about...
And speaking of fininancially disadvantaged, hasn't anyone noticed that the RIAA/MPAA thugs only pick on middle-to-low income citizens? They seem very careful to avoid going after anyone who has the real financial oomph to give them a real legal fight. This Michigan decision is not too bad, but the war is far from over, and the people are losing.
The RIAA/MPAA will no more be stopped by legal means than any other group of entrenched gangsters.
If the courts and law enforcement won't stand up for the citizens' rights, the citizens have to do it themselves.
This girl's mother could obviously afford a lawyer, and was willing to take the chance - what about all those other one-paycheck-from-the-streets victims who are having to balance next a paying couple months rent in protection money to the RIAA thugs against the possility that if they give a similar amount of money to lawyer they *might* not get stuck with an even larger fine?
I figure if the RIAA/MPAA thugs had their families threatened in the same way - to the same degree - they are threatening the families of their victims they might at least begin to understand what's at stake.
Regardless of what protestations and representations the RIAA/MPAA thugs might make, file sharing as we know it is not illegal. The fact that they have purchased legislattion supporting the pretense of its illegality doesn't change that. To those victims without sufficient funds to purchase legislation to protect themselves from unjust action under the color of Law, force becomes the only possible response.
It's a rigged system. It's ime to shut it down and start over.
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Anyway - I'm just tired of hearing this tired, recycled bull about "laptop fuel cells" - I was on board with it until the 2nd story came out around the time cells hyped in the first article were supposed to see market...
It seems like the "this will be on the shelves by" date has getting incremented by 12 to 18 months each time the story sees daylight since the I first started seeing it in - what, 2003? 2004?
The point about it that disrupts the "willfull suspension of disbelief" that I typically rely on when trying to grasp most other "news" is the ongoing emphasis on form factor: If "they" realy can make a methanol fuel cell with sufficient current to e.g. power a laptop computer, why don't they just put it on the market with a cord that will plug in as the present-day power supply brick does?
Such a device would be generic to the point that it could be used with a wide variety of models, as well as with devices that are not computers - but just try asking for a "19-volt 200W methane fuel cell" in Best Buy or Radio Shack and see what you get...
.... you say this [the above], the procede to make an argument based solely on funcitonality and support of software packages available. Do you have anything to back up your initial statement there, that non-Open software is somehow better for applications that require "security" (a vague term at best, in this context, I think - are you talking security against networked crackers, automated worm attacks, attempts to de-crypt encrypted data ... )? I'm not trying to "flame" you, but you don't support the your statement at all in your post, and I honestly can't think of an instance where proprietary or closed source software is "more secure" than F/OSS...
You should move to where there's a better community college - I think it may even be safe to use the word "most" when describing how many schools there are across the country now that are teaching Linux, FreeBSD, or both. Are you saying your school doesn't offer it, or that you can't take it for some other reason?
As a sidelight, note that many schools that have recieved endowments from M$ (thru one channel or another) have magickally dropped the course-work they once had that didn't require the purchase (at a student discount, of course) of M$ products - if that's what's going on at your school, you might want to address it with your administration - after all, when you're paying for an education, they're defrauding you if they don't give you what you pay for - regardless of what M$ is paying them (under the table) not to teach you....
Not sure just what sector of the real world you're talking about, here, but *I* won't hire you if you don't understand operating systems generally (we're talking critical embedded systems here - the stuff that's going to outlive the users who are thinking they need a "new" obsolete PC), and have some skill with anything that can be called one. "Platform Independance" and "Language Independant" aren't just test questions in the Real World outside Microsoft Applications Land - a rich and profitable land to be sure, but nothing grows there so all [brain] food must be imported, and life expectancy is pretty short generally due to contaminated memepools, rarified atmospheres, and the mind numbing depressions induced by the incredibly bleak cyberscapes...)
Anyway - all that said, I do agree with you about support for F/OSS - it is overall diffcult to access, often hard to understand, and generally just unusable for those who are not already to some degree techinical initiates. And that does need to change. Imo.
*sigh* *idly twirls ENORMOUS e-penis*
Well, it's mostly a matter of language, which I think is fairly well defined elsewhere so I won't go into it here...
So you want to go to your interpretation of what he said and what you think it means about him? Funny, that's pretty much what I was doing, but you decided to go all ad hominem on me. Hmmm, you didn't seem to understand "Dumbass" - how do take your "Fuck Off" - w/ cream or w/o?
Are you really interested in my enormous e-penis, or do you just come to slashdot to watch.
Ahem. Well, obviously not.
Well, in the same spirit of Honesty and Forthright Expression, it is a really fine ass, I guess I just take a lot of pride in it.
Well, I must point out that I wasn't calling everyone who disagrees with me a dumbas - just you. So does this mean you disagree with me? Does this mean you don't believe this is an open forum?
So what's your point, here? I don't really care what he meant or what you think he might have meant, or why you think it's important. I simply pointed out that this is a public forum and his stated desire to squelch dissent didn't match up very well with the rest of his persona which he laid out in the first part of his post - it's a moral and philosphical inconsistancy, and I stand by my remarks about it, despite your wild - nay, hysterical - attrack on what you imagine to be my character.
Which brings us right back around to you and the question "wtf do you care, anyway?" So? Why are you in this? You're not adding anything, hell, you're not even making sense - are you a Republican, or something?
Dumbass - there's a differnce between simply "that's dumb" and telling someone they should "be quiet" - I have no problem arguing with him "ad hominem" or otherwise - he's the one who took the position of demand that others not respond. You should go back and read the thread.
Furthermore, I believe I stated that I agreed with what he was saying right up to the point where he demanded that others not challenge his opinion. I can only hope he learned more from the exchange than you obviously did. Unless I miss my guess you are one of those who believes they have nothing left to learn...
You didn't mention Dubya's spiritual progenitor: Adolf Hitler was also democraticly elected.
This is not a debate, this is public forum where we all get to speak our piece. I have done so (repeatedly), and stand by the post to which you are attempting to respond (at least, I think you were attempting to respond - you didn't actually address anything in my post - probably because you are not as clever as you think you are, but I'll leave that for a later "proof". Clue: This is not about me - or you either, for that matter...
Basically:
In short: Game over, you lose, please play again ... yes, do feel free to try again later when you have have some more tokens, eh?
PS: If you really are my ex-wife, and you just wanted to berate me in public, that's cool - I would just suggest you set up a seperate forum or topic for 0x0000-bashing, rather that trying to shoehorn it into a discussion about something else...
Well, I was with you up to those last 4 words. I guess you're note "lockstop" on minor issues like Speech, eh?
Why are you really so afraid of the idea of organized resistence to the (Totalitarian) Regime that currently controls the US? AFter all, you can just shoot the protestestors, right? It's not as though they have any right to participate in the determination of how their government acts, right? Hell, in your view, they're probably not even ciitizens - or at least, not as fully endowed with the Rights and Privileges of Citizenship as yourself, eh? I mean, you are a "conservative libertarian" - you have the Correct view of the government, right?
Perhaps the phrase "shooting yourself in the foot" would have some meaning for you? As a supporter of the Constitution of the United States of America, (you were sworn to uphold and protect that document, right?) I decry your attempt to bully others into silence in a public forum.
You're making assumptions. It's not whether or not anyone dis/agrees that makes him a moron, it's the opinion(s) he posted.
Specificly, disagreeing with a moronic opinion is not mutually exclusive with the holder or purveyor of the opinion being a moron - a moron is a moron, independant of whether or not anyone agrees or disagrees with the moronic opinions expressed by said moron.
Why would anyone in their right mind mod up a pro-Bush comment?
You are creating a completely spurious and hypothetical argument, here. Those that support the Regime are mostly too stoopid to figure out how to post - and those that have the requisite chimpanzee skills to work a keyboard are incapable of composing a coherent message of support.
Furthermore, any message of support for Dubya would de facto have to include a lot of lies (i.e. BULLSHIT), and since that's one thing that does function pretty well around here is the bullshit detectors, well, you're just shit outta luck, buddro.
Let me also point out to you that, in supporting the dumbasses in the Whitehouse, you are not "resisting the group-think", you're just demonstrating that you are of below-average intelligence.
Well, the perp is a Republican, so it was probably not the mother. Probably more like the little brother. It was Clinton liked the femmes, remember? That seemed to piss you guys off, for some reason...
Hey, you're the one whose panting and sweating, whining and begging that the rest of us please quit talking about your little bitch Dubya and his bitch dom Cheney. Calm down yerself.
Do you really? I don't think you do, or you would understand that it's not about "like", it's about things like Patriotism and the Constitution. It's about America before it was taken over by a Fascist Regime. "Like" doesn't figure into it. It's about the Constutution, the Rule of Law, Freedom, Democracy, and (of course) Economics. And no, no one expects you to understand any of that, it's obvious to all that you're ... politically challenged, shall we say.
One day we'll have to sit down and talk about that "typical ./er" remark, too - I hear a lot from the fanatics on your team about "typical slashdotters" - they've never managed to demonstrate the alleged phenomenon to my satistfaction, note - but you're the first I've noticed raving about dot-slashers...
Like what? Like Americans? Like people who care? Like people who know wtf they're talking about? Why? Do those things bother you so much? No wonder you support a regime that promises you it will make everything the same - make it all go away ...
Of couse, it may be that you're confusing /. with the voices in your head - if so, I can tell you in good confidence that you need to drink heavily. And take more drugs. It really does help.
Actually, if you go back and check, you'll find that it is
Heheh. Good one. You had me going right up until that last statement.... *snicker* aerospace ... take s/w seriously *guffaw* I'll have to remember that one...
It might be useful if someone could make this point to the Regime and its brownshirt supporters. The fact that they don't "get it" means to me that - quite simply - they are not Americans. They're Fascists, through and through. No tolerance for dissent, no tolerance for the democractic process. The fact that the current Regime cannot tolerate any person or behaviour except what they have defined as correct will ultimately lead to what the Regime will call "civil war" and what the rest of us will call "revolution". I guess it's just too much to ask that neo-cons learn anything from history.
You might want to check that factoid. I remember seeing t.v. news broadcasts to the effect that the CIA has been given operational authority within the US to e.g. make arrests and conduct "investigations" - naturally these new powers will never be used against US citizens, but it definitely goes beyond cooperation and sharing of information.
Damn! My advice: Drink heavily. I didn't, and look what happened to me, eh? Good luck...
I've seen some really slick designs for solar cookers - both commercial and DIY - that might be preferable to cooking over fire if one is trying to save either $$ or the environment. Sorry I don't have links handy...
... in fact, any sort of inductive motor load could be considered too "heavy" - that would be anything that has an AC motor in it: AC, fridge, washing machine, dryer, etc. There are alternatives for most of these, but conversion is required to uncouple the functionality from the 120V/60hz AC power grids.
Convenction systems for heating and cooling are interesting...
Actually, it's my understanding that under the so-called USA PATRIOT Act the CIA can and in fact does operate within the USA.
Actually, I was getting at the fact that both programming and music have a common basis: mathematics (also the language of science), and that this tendency of musicians to be interested in coding works both ways - many programmers moonlight as musicians or have a high degree of interest in playing music as a "hobby".
This relation between code and music is well-known and long-standing - the war department during WWII used musicians as code breakers, for instance... I think that basically supports your point while expanding on it a bit...
LoL. Uhm, yeah. Okay. Sounds like a personal problem - not unexpected, since given the obvious pattern that exists in the makeup of your band, one could trivially conclude that everyone in the group is probably a bit fascinated with patterns and their meanings - in fact, I would postulate that such a group of people would probably argue about those meanings quite frequently...
I just find your statement that the makeup of the group (w.r.t. science/programming) is "conincidental" preposterous. Given the long-standing and well-understood relationship between coding ability and musicianship, it is to be expected that there will be a large degree of crossover between the fields, your band being no exception to that rule.
Furthermore, your assertion that makeup is "coincidence" fails to support your point - which I see from your post here is almost certainly part of another pattern.
Seriously, dude, you should ... Just chill. WtF is bothering you? I see patterns all over the place, comment on them when I feel like it, and anyone who "gets pissed" about it can just get glad in the same bag they got mad in. I could really give a shit who is "pissed" with the verbalization of the obvious which the pissed seem to have managed to miss completely despite the obviousness of the point. Perhaps you can see the obvious pattern, there, as well, eh?
All the musicians in your band are programmers or scientists. It's a mathematical aptitude thing - the correlation between musicians and programmers has been notable for some time - it is believed to have something to do with the mathematical principles that underlie both fields. People who have musial "talent" are often drawn to the (mathematical) structures in computer science in much the same way they are drawn to the (equally mathematical) structures in music. This seems (to me) to be even more try of people who write music. Creating a musical score is much like creating a computer program - and nowadays in frequenty involves using computer programs, even. I see a pattern there, but I suppose "obvious" may have been too strong a word for the general case...
Coincidental? There's no such thing as coincidence. You are simply too close to the pattern to see the entirety of it - to anyone outside your band, the pattern is obvious.
Well wtf did it sound like I was talking about?
The RIAA is thugs, and should be treated as such - if they can't be prosecuted (as seems to be the case so far) they should be beat to hell, shot, stabbed, business firebombed, etc etc. Removed from polite society by force. Lynched, even. Strung up by vigilantes who still support the Constitution and the Rule of Law (as opposed to the Rule of the Corporate Dollar). I think I made that pretty clear...
As far as "delegitimizing the problem" - yer newspeak and political correctness are just lame. The "problem" isn't "legitimate" to start with. If a few lawyers were shot over it, it might be taken seriously, but (as your post illustrates) for now it's just a bad joke.
If lives - or even some large amount of money - like Arista records in bankruptcy large - perhaps the RIAA would begin to get the idea that there is some difference between Crime (assault, arson, murder) and passing digital data around a network. The RIAA and their ilk are no strangers to Crime, after all. They built their empire on it.
Pissing everyone off? Well, I think that's pretty much what's called for, eh? You yourself claim no one cares enough about what the RIAA is doing to boycott - and a boycott requires numbers to have any chance at all of success. Hell, I've been boycotting the RIAA since they first started mouthing off against Napster, and I don't even *use* P2P. I just saw their tactic for what it is: A transparent attempt to kill off the use of the Internet for independant media (musicians, in this case). To believe it is anything else is simply naive. People need to be up in arms about this, in short. It (the RIAA's actions) is an infringement of a fundamental liberty: The freedom to communicate.
I believe that supports my point...
I'm not Jesus, but I'll pass the message along when I see him.
Well, technically I skipped a whole bunch of stuff, but I have limited time and space to discuss this ... Furthermore, you're skipping the part about continued oppression despite the limited success of the Rights movement in the 1960's.
The scale of the problem of the RIAA/MPAA/etc requires something of a broader scope than what Rosa Parks' boycott actually acheived. Ghandi might be a better example of a peaceful resistance, but Ghandi apparently had considerably more patience than I have or than the Founding Fathers of the US seem to have had... I think the paradigm here should be Battle, not Peaceful Resistance. The member companies of the RIAA have killed enough recording artists, destroyed enough lives, and just generally enslaved enough populations to make them a candidate for action against Organized Crime - if we can't get governmental support, the course is clear.
Rosa Parks won govt support by exposing abuse of a population. The RIAA's abuse is about as obvious as it's going to get, and there is no govt support forthcoming absent more drastic action by the victims. A boycott won't even be noticed, since the RIAA will simply continue to blame lost profits on "pirates". You fail to mention just how, exactly, you imagine you will prevent them from continuing to do just that?
The public here is being raped financially by the "entertainment industry" - a rape victim is entitled to deadly force to prevent the crime. You're still trying to pretend that
Or imagine what would have happened if she had, say, firebombed some buses, lynched a city council member, and gotten herself some guns ... it probably would have been a lot more effective than the boycott was/is-to-this-day, especially if the panthers had back her play ...
Actually, it was Federal intervention that convinced the companies and the governments to change policy - the walking just convinced them to bring out dogs and turn firehoses on the crowds. It has ever been the unwillingness of the "peaceniks" to break heads that has let the fascist oppressors get the upper hand.
"Sacrifice" just means there's that much more you have to fight to win back.
While Rosa Parks is a wonderful example should one find ones self in her situation, I think a better example for the spot we currently find ourselves in would be the Boston Tea Party: buncha patriots meet at the pub, get likkered up, decide somethings gotta be done; dress up like gangstas and go trash the latest shipment of the product, wiping corporate profits *and* taxation (without representation) for at least a week in a single act of studied mayhem ... it seemed to be somehow related to broader changes, but I bet the British didn't think so at the time ... took 'em a minit to figure out, it did...
Well, since you would be a criminal, you might not be able to draw welfare (actually, is there still any such things as welfare? I thought the neo-cons put an end to that?).
No, I think that since the RIAA are demanding the criminalization of file sharing behavior, the file sharers should oblige them - deal with the RIAA in terms they can understand: Gang fo thugz to gang of thugz.
E.g. Form an IP Theft Crime Syndicate and respond to each lawsuit with a couple drive-bys at some RIAA member corporate offices. There are more of you than there are of them, and they are highly visible wiht a lot to lose - right out there in the open. Vulnerable.
For the financially disadvantaged (those who can't just dash out and buy a tech 9 or mac 10 or whatever they're called - toss a couple of gasoline bombs thru their plate glass (wait til everyone has gone home if you're squeamish about offing the bastards - but a more useless bunch of dickheads I really have trouble imagining) - show them what "losses" are really all about...
And speaking of fininancially disadvantaged, hasn't anyone noticed that the RIAA/MPAA thugs only pick on middle-to-low income citizens? They seem very careful to avoid going after anyone who has the real financial oomph to give them a real legal fight. This Michigan decision is not too bad, but the war is far from over, and the people are losing.
The RIAA/MPAA will no more be stopped by legal means than any other group of entrenched gangsters.
If the courts and law enforcement won't stand up for the citizens' rights, the citizens have to do it themselves.
This girl's mother could obviously afford a lawyer, and was willing to take the chance - what about all those other one-paycheck-from-the-streets victims who are having to balance next a paying couple months rent in protection money to the RIAA thugs against the possility that if they give a similar amount of money to lawyer they *might* not get stuck with an even larger fine?
I figure if the RIAA/MPAA thugs had their families threatened in the same way - to the same degree - they are threatening the families of their victims they might at least begin to understand what's at stake.
Regardless of what protestations and representations the RIAA/MPAA thugs might make, file sharing as we know it is not illegal. The fact that they have purchased legislattion supporting the pretense of its illegality doesn't change that. To those victims without sufficient funds to purchase legislation to protect themselves from unjust action under the color of Law, force becomes the only possible response.
It's a rigged system. It's ime to shut it down and start over.
Why would you want to keep scp in /usr/sbin? Is /usr/sbin in your users' $PATH? I don't get it....
"This is going to go into your permanent record, young man..."
Wasn't Grog a muppet?
Hey, Mad Dog is smoooth - it's Wild Irish Rose that has thorns... *ouch*
More like Linux can run on it - and it provides more Gflops than ordinary pilsner!