The group didn't cite any reason outside "testing" for the initial and uncalled for attack on ProtonMail
As opposed to, er, "called for" (justified?) attacks?
He said the group didn't intend to harass ProtonMail all day yesterday or today but decided to do so after ProtonMail's CTO, Bart Butler, responded to one of their tweets calling the group "clowns."
Oh. Well then. That's perfectly reasonable then...
The quotation in the summary and even a bit in the article are very misleading. The company seems to take full responsibility for the issue and are not passing blame. The line right after that quote is:
"We are regretful that this was not addressed immediately and adequately by our support team, when discovered. We have addressed this and made some internal changes."
They do however have a previous incident where the exact same thing happened, and in that case they apparently suggested it was because two completely unrelated users used the same user and password (which wasn't true).
So in other words, they are incompetent and there is about zero reason for me to trust them with access to a camera in my house.
Expecting the consumer to do it is pointless. There's no way you can have a system of the consumer carefully sorting and separating materials, without mistakes or laziness. And expect it to work.
I'm not sure what the answer is (Wall-E? Robots maybe?) but this ain't it.
I believe it has been ascertained that, once a sufficiently large number of people start using this, the end result is that traffic jams move from one location to a different one, and then back, as people readjust. Thus, instead of having a huge traffic jam in a location, we end up with a round-robin succession of not significantly smaller traffic jams in several different locations.
Just think of what would happen if the galaxy were not properly greased. It would be like trying to drive a truck with no axle grease for the axles. Things would quickly come to a grinding halt from all the friction of the rotation of the galaxy.
And what's worse, it's not under warranty!
Well, you do need to change it every 3000 parsecs...
No. This is one of the fallacies put forth by religious people that random atoms bumping together made life. That's not how chemistry works in general, and is an outright complete misrepresentation of organic chemistry in specific. Go take a year of chem majors O-chem, then you'll understand.
It's jus ta shorthand phrase.
Snarking doesn't solve the problem. It's still apparently unlikely enough that you haven't found it anywhere else.
So I guess we can safely assume that he wasn't as great at resolving internet arguments as he thought he was?
Because an argument that lead to one of the parties getting to pissed off they decided to find the other in meatspace so that could stab them to death can't have ended particularly well...
There are always a few people out there who will resist any reasonable attempt to resolve differences, no matter how well done.
That said, I have to wonder what drove his attacker to (a) kill him, then (b) turn himself in within a few hours (but not immediately)....
That's not uncommon, actually.
People do the crime out of high emotion, then a little reason kicks back in afterward and they realize their situation is hopeless and they will be hunted down anyway.
I actually know someone who did that (though he turned himself in in a couple of days, not hours).
stabbed to death minutes after giving a seminar on how to resolve personal disputes on the internet.
Not to be snarky here, but my first thought after reading this was "So I guess that's exactly NOT what you should do, huh?" (Sorry to be morbid.)
At least the guy turned himself in soon afterwards. But he bothered the guy online, even kept making new IDs to hassle the guy after the previous one was disabled.
What the hell is wrong with people? "Someone's wrong on the internet / in life and it's my duty / job / addiction to permanently correct them? Get over yourself and come up with a better argument. Make them come over to your side instead.
Hell, maybe you'll even learn something yourself.
Winston Churchill: A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
I know, right?
They need to look at our progressive American way of doing things instead: throw people out of your restaurant, get them fired, and gather in mobs outside their house.
On the other hand, if they are helping ensure that guys like Pruitt get in charge of the EPA and gut the regulations so they don't have to spend money to be poisoning us less, then that's a bit different.
Perhaps we could peacefully decide and manage such big, diffuse, divisive issues by, I dunno, electing representatives and stuff.
like what's causing the warming, and what the speed and essential content of response needs to be,
should be decided by science,
and then the results of that should be respected by political leadership.
Oh what a wonderful world that would be....
What to do about it, on a governmental level, is a political question.
Expert witnesses can testify, submit evidence, etc., but they don't decide cases. That's never how it works.
That judge may or may not have the law interpreted correctly, but his spew about politicians making decisions about science rather strongly suggests the majority of his income derives from ExxonMobil or the equivalent Putin-owned company.
One more example of why judges should be required to accept the input of nonlegals like, you know, scientists and software professionals.
As long as we're getting our governmental wires crossed, let's have our elected representatives vote to lock him up!
And at least Jabber offers the possibility of TLS and a decent password hashing system that allows strong passwords without them getting truncated for validation and encoded using a weak crackable hash. So what's the draw of the AIM client today?
Nostalgia.
Same reason anyone would want to play (original Atari) Pitfall...
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Isn't it the act of *meeting the need* that (rightfully) results in profit?
No! It's so much better to not get needs met, as long as you stick it to the Man!
...of which the basis is profiting from unmet need.
You can theoretically get your replacement lung in communist countries, but it takes 5 years. If you know someone in the Party.
The group didn't cite any reason outside "testing" for the initial and uncalled for attack on ProtonMail
As opposed to, er, "called for" (justified?) attacks?
He said the group didn't intend to harass ProtonMail all day yesterday or today but decided to do so after ProtonMail's CTO, Bart Butler, responded to one of their tweets calling the group "clowns."
Oh. Well then. That's perfectly reasonable then ...
They are a bunch of clowns. Or paid by GMail ...
The quotation in the summary and even a bit in the article are very misleading. The company seems to take full responsibility for the issue and are not passing blame. The line right after that quote is:
"We are regretful that this was not addressed immediately and adequately by our support team, when discovered. We have addressed this and made some internal changes."
They do however have a previous incident where the exact same thing happened, and in that case they apparently suggested it was because two completely unrelated users used the same user and password (which wasn't true).
So in other words, they are incompetent and there is about zero reason for me to trust them with access to a camera in my house.
Trump's approval rating is the same as Obama at the same point in his presidency.
I didn't know Obama also had consistently low approval ratings compared to other recent presidents - thanks for the info!
How dare you quote that notable right wing rag, Newsweek!
Trump's overall approval rating has been consistently low compared to other recent presidents. But among Republicans, his approval rating is at 90%.
The Republican party is Trump's bitch.
Are you trying to persuade anybody? Because, that's not actually how you do it.
You are actively working for a midterm loss and for Trump's second term.
Gerrymandering has just been legalized.
It's been around for decades. Practiced by both parties.
Expecting the consumer to do it is pointless. There's no way you can have a system of the consumer carefully sorting and separating materials, without mistakes or laziness. And expect it to work.
I'm not sure what the answer is (Wall-E? Robots maybe?) but this ain't it.
I believe it has been ascertained that, once a sufficiently large number of people start using this, the end result is that traffic jams move from one location to a different one, and then back, as people readjust. Thus, instead of having a huge traffic jam in a location, we end up with a round-robin succession of not significantly smaller traffic jams in several different locations.
Ascertained by who? Works quite well where I am.
Of course space is full of grease.
Just think of what would happen if the galaxy were not properly greased. It would be like trying to drive a truck with no axle grease for the axles. Things would quickly come to a grinding halt from all the friction of the rotation of the galaxy.
And what's worse, it's not under warranty!
Well, you do need to change it every 3000 parsecs ...
"Are we alone in the universe?" she asked. "Yes," said the Oracle. "So there's no other life out there?" "There is. They're alone too."
Elf (in Rudolph): "Let's be independent ... together!"
No. This is one of the fallacies put forth by religious people that random atoms bumping together made life. That's not how chemistry works in general, and is an outright complete misrepresentation of organic chemistry in specific. Go take a year of chem majors O-chem, then you'll understand.
It's jus ta shorthand phrase.
Snarking doesn't solve the problem. It's still apparently unlikely enough that you haven't found it anywhere else.
Been going on for quite awhile, hasn't it?
Observing that communism/socialism fails is trivial. _Everything_ fails.
Yet, strangely, we have toilet paper and they don't.
More planets for us.
So I guess we can safely assume that he wasn't as great at resolving internet arguments as he thought he was? Because an argument that lead to one of the parties getting to pissed off they decided to find the other in meatspace so that could stab them to death can't have ended particularly well...
There are always a few people out there who will resist any reasonable attempt to resolve differences, no matter how well done.
That said, I have to wonder what drove his attacker to (a) kill him, then (b) turn himself in within a few hours (but not immediately)....
That's not uncommon, actually.
People do the crime out of high emotion, then a little reason kicks back in afterward and they realize their situation is hopeless and they will be hunted down anyway.
I actually know someone who did that (though he turned himself in in a couple of days, not hours).
stabbed to death minutes after giving a seminar on how to resolve personal disputes on the internet.
Not to be snarky here, but my first thought after reading this was "So I guess that's exactly NOT what you should do, huh?" (Sorry to be morbid.) At least the guy turned himself in soon afterwards. But he bothered the guy online, even kept making new IDs to hassle the guy after the previous one was disabled. What the hell is wrong with people? "Someone's wrong on the internet / in life and it's my duty / job / addiction to permanently correct them? Get over yourself and come up with a better argument. Make them come over to your side instead. Hell, maybe you'll even learn something yourself. Winston Churchill: A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
I know, right?
They need to look at our progressive American way of doing things instead: throw people out of your restaurant, get them fired, and gather in mobs outside their house.
On the other hand, if they are helping ensure that guys like Pruitt get in charge of the EPA and gut the regulations so they don't have to spend money to be poisoning us less, then that's a bit different.
Perhaps we could peacefully decide and manage such big, diffuse, divisive issues by, I dunno, electing representatives and stuff.
let me get this straight: if person X does damage to person Y, but this kind of damage isn't legislated, person Y can't defend him/herself ?
Who's person X? Your next door neighbor who filled their gas tank today? Why or why not?
like what's causing the warming, and what the speed and essential content of response needs to be, should be decided by science, and then the results of that should be respected by political leadership.
Oh what a wonderful world that would be....
What to do about it, on a governmental level, is a political question.
Expert witnesses can testify, submit evidence, etc., but they don't decide cases. That's never how it works.
The courts are a good venue for this kind of thing, especially in the US where politicians are owned by corporations.
Judges are appointed by politicians, and are supposed to decide cases based on law that politicians make.
That judge may or may not have the law interpreted correctly, but his spew about politicians making decisions about science rather strongly suggests the majority of his income derives from ExxonMobil or the equivalent Putin-owned company.
One more example of why judges should be required to accept the input of nonlegals like, you know, scientists and software professionals.
As long as we're getting our governmental wires crossed, let's have our elected representatives vote to lock him up!
Well, yes. Political questions should be decided politically.
And at least Jabber offers the possibility of TLS and a decent password hashing system that allows strong passwords without them getting truncated for validation and encoded using a weak crackable hash. So what's the draw of the AIM client today?
Nostalgia.
Same reason anyone would want to play (original Atari) Pitfall ...