Yes, we have created TDEE calculators for that. We know that one side of the equation will be 'unfair' to short women and at the extreme end an extra 300kcal per day for a tall man.
Does that excuse the short female from eating herself into obesity? You tell me.
Cute. I like your judgemental approach. It makes everything seem so clear.
Could you explain to me how I was so virtuous when I was younger? I could eat a whole pizza, a tub of ice cream, etc, essentially "pigging out" and not gain a single pound that would stay on my body. I was somewhat active. It was not unheard of for me to put on more than 100 miles in a day on a bicycle, but I could eat FAR beyond that and not gain weight.
Easily. You were eating at or below your TDEE per day.
I am of the opinion that you should show some restraint in judging people regarding weight until you have hard evidence pointing towards your default judgements. It is not as simple as calories going in and calories burned.
My judgements are based on physical laws, you might as well be arguing with me about gravity here
That being said, I have seen a lot of "slobs" that are disgustingly huge because of lack of control. That does not mean that all weight gain is due to being a pig.
All weight gain is certainly not due to being a pig. Pigs actually know when to stop
You appear to be desperately focusing on the involuntary side of the equation, trying to make it outside of peoples control, therefore not their fault they gain weight.
Except everybody has the same equation. There is definitely going to be a difference between a 5 foot barely any lean muscle female and a giant 6'5' man, by sheer mass alone. They both control the input however. This means its no mistake, if they gained weight, nobody forced them to overeat past their individual TDEE.
The people with allergies or an inability to digest certain things are a minority given the obesity levels. The food is working if people are able to gain weight to these recorded levels. You are making it needlessly complex and I don't even factor in exercise because its basically worthless for weight loss.
That study highlighted something already well known. If your mass is less, you require less energy.
If they returned to eating more than they needed, on an individual basis, they would store the excess as fat. It doesn't say anything about making you feel tired or cranking up feelings of hunger.
I only dropped off his pointless ad hominem. The entire point, if he had one, was quoted. Nothing of which he italicized disagrees with calories in and out. Guess what, if you're facing an obesity epidemic, the food is getting absorbed just fine. Its working as intended.
So, where is your point, exactly?
I don't think I am ignoring the science here and its not complex. You want it to be complex, that gives you an out. Too bad, so sad. You eat more than your TDEE per day, you wear it.
You can scream metabolic rate all you like, not going to change the physics behind weightloss.
If it were as easy as eating less and doing more exercise then people wouldn't find it so hard to lose weight. Clearly it's more than just balancing the calorie chequebook.
Its not.
The main problem is that once you have put on significant weight your body fights you to stop to taking it off. If you try to eat fewer calories it cranks up the feelings of hunger and reduces energy consumption, making you feel tired, which in turn has mental health consequences over the longer term.
Got any sources for those bold claims?
Even if you don't believe that, you must surely accept that blaming people for "gluttony" doesn't work either. Berating and denigrating them for being overweight does not help or encourage them to lose weight. From a pure engineering point of view we need a better solution.
Yes I could have framed it better. How about this, you stop using food as entertainment and find something else. Also, vanity works far better as a reason to lose than health. Health is invisible.
Calories eaten and absorbed minus calories burnt from exercise and resting metabolism will be stored as fat, sure. You might note that some parts of that sentence describe things not under voluntary control.
Calories eaten is under everyones voluntary control. I'm not sure what your point is here.
You know there are literally drugs that will make people just drop weight off, right? Problem is they have a bunch of terrible side-effects.
Yes, DNP. Its LD50 is quite low and can just kill you. Its much better to have a surgeon make a big cut where the fat has pressed against the skin thinning the blood flow, and thus the immune response, so he can bypass your stomach. Then when the infection sets into that cut, and the antibiotics are ineffective, he'll go into sepsis and multiple organ failure while his family hits up facebook begging for a donation. He dies in a coma.
Body processes aren't static: if you drop 300 calories from your diet your body will adjust (mainly noticed by having no energy and wanting to sleep a lot), and you won't actually lose weight. Is it *possible* to lose weight? Of course, but it's not easy , and the limiting factor is knowledge not "will power."
Might want to look up homeostasis before you make the claim the bodies processes aren't static. I don't ignore the evidence, I've lived it. Weightloss is not easy, but its simple. I didn't suffer a lack of energy nor did I wish to sleep a lot. Sorry, people that are overweight or obese are doing exactly what I was doing; eating more than they need per day and having the excess stored as fat.
While you can consume calories, what gets absorbed by the body, and then how it is used by the body varies greatly. I'd love to see tests that count calories before consumption and then check for calories when it comes out the other end.
They already did, and the result is called calories. Its called the modified atwater system. The case study of gut floras effects are interesting, but they are not breaking physics and creating energy from nothing.
What a lovely argument you're having with yourself. Life sucks, and calories count. Even if you don't.
Oh wait thats right. They're controlling us through the food we eat. Its a global conspiracy cooked up by the food industry that is... oops, occams razor. People are overeating. Womp womp
Another article, another piece to a solved puzzle. If you want to gain weight, what does google say? You have to eat more calories than you expend. The excess will be stored as fat.
And if you want to lose weight, you do the opposite. This will never stop working. People cling to these articles out of nothing but confirmation bias for their continued gluttony. Its not hormones, insulin, genetics, PCOS, or medications. Just gluttony.
but what you're really interested in isn't "calories in/calories out" as measured by "food in the mouth, physical activity of the muscles". You could put a metal ball with 10,000 calories of energy in your body, and not be able to metabolize any of it. So the *quality* of the calorie counts too.
Good thing calories come calculated using the modified atwater system which only includes things humans can gain energy from.
In the case of insulin, which drives fat accumulation, it is driven by blood sugar levels, which is driven by carbohydrate intake (particularly refined carbohydrates). If you don't include that in your calculation, you're using a simple formula for a complex scenario.
The calorie values for carbs(4kcal/gram), nor protein(5kcal/gram) or fat(9kcal/gram). Insulin doesn't drive fat accumulation without excess consumption. It doesn't create energy from nothing. Once again, you eat an excess over your TDEE, your body will store it as fat. There is no simpler way to put it.
You completely missed the entire chemistry behind insulin, insulin reaction, ketosis, and more.
I don't think I have sir.
The obesity epidemic is the direct result of sugar/starch/carb addiction.
No, its excess kcal over time.
Calories aren't useful for most people, but carbs are necessary for all.
Calories are necessary for human life. Its a unit of food energy. The books you are reading are running contrary to thermodynamics. Nobody has hijacked your brain using sugar. You just want to blame that so you don't have to take responsibility.
Physics doesn't really care either way. You eat an excess, you'll wear it.
I watched all the matches. The AI 'reading' the API didn't stop them making fucking 'dumb' decisions no human player would ever make. Buying salves(consumable healing item) constantly, wasting smokes randomly, double ward glitching. The only questionable play they made was the near instant hex on a blinking earthshaker about to land his combo. But top level players know what the fuck earthshaker does.
They are prepared for him to show up like that. Its called fucking learning, and its exactly what this AI did. You can talk about unfair reaction speed, but experience means far more, holding your disable cooldown for the right target.
Making the correct decision is not fucking cheating. They acted without hesitation, and they crushed m-dog, f-dog and every other dog that dared taunt them with 'baited kid'. Up until they let 4chans IRC aka twitch chat draft their 3rd game.
It's not about calories, it's about net carbs after fiber. Counting calories works well for high-output individuals, who in the US, are about 2 in 10. The rest of the people need to count carbohydrates by the gram or other measure.
Calories isn't so much of a figment, rather, it doesn't portray the accuracy of a nutritional diet.
Counting calories works for everyone. If you consume more energy than you need, the excess is stored as fat. Our population is not facing nutritional deficiency, but an obesity epidemic. And exercise is a pitiful amount of energy expenditure, so its not the lack of that. Its the lack of accurately counting kcal consumption that is causing it. Blaming carbs, protein and fats for this is foolish.
Thats not communism, just a dictatorship. The fervor in which successful capitalists go to any length to pin failures on their greatest threat never fails to amuse. Better dead than red, right
Only if we get to label everything thats a GMO - in-line breeding or direct selections in a lab. Welcome to half your fruit and vegetable displays wearing the GMO label.
Exactly. The computer cannot be lied to, or rather it will except everything as truth. Trying to program in english is going to result in the same speed as reading legal documents that have had all the doubletalk and loopholes removed. English is a terrible language for specified instructions. The work needs to be done in breaking down the problem you want solved. But where do you even start?
Personally I wanted to write a small program that would act like a sound firewall for games. I know next to nothing about programming. It should sit inbetween the game and the final output to the audio driver, be able to initiate a listen mode, you fire off the offending sound in game, it populates a list with everything 'hear' and generates a unique ID for them, with an option to replay each until you find the offender. Then create a rule that blocks it.. The problem is I don't even know if this is even possible or what language besides c++ that could even handle it.
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tipped heavily one way, requiring a course correction. Ergo, calorie deficit !
Does that excuse the short female from eating herself into obesity? You tell me.
Cute. I like your judgemental approach. It makes everything seem so clear.
Could you explain to me how I was so virtuous when I was younger? I could eat a whole pizza, a tub of ice cream, etc, essentially "pigging out" and not gain a single pound that would stay on my body. I was somewhat active. It was not unheard of for me to put on more than 100 miles in a day on a bicycle, but I could eat FAR beyond that and not gain weight.
Easily. You were eating at or below your TDEE per day.
I am of the opinion that you should show some restraint in judging people regarding weight until you have hard evidence pointing towards your default judgements. It is not as simple as calories going in and calories burned.
My judgements are based on physical laws, you might as well be arguing with me about gravity here
That being said, I have seen a lot of "slobs" that are disgustingly huge because of lack of control. That does not mean that all weight gain is due to being a pig.
All weight gain is certainly not due to being a pig. Pigs actually know when to stop
You appear to be desperately focusing on the involuntary side of the equation, trying to make it outside of peoples control, therefore not their fault they gain weight. Except everybody has the same equation. There is definitely going to be a difference between a 5 foot barely any lean muscle female and a giant 6'5' man, by sheer mass alone. They both control the input however. This means its no mistake, if they gained weight, nobody forced them to overeat past their individual TDEE. The people with allergies or an inability to digest certain things are a minority given the obesity levels. The food is working if people are able to gain weight to these recorded levels. You are making it needlessly complex and I don't even factor in exercise because its basically worthless for weight loss.
If they returned to eating more than they needed, on an individual basis, they would store the excess as fat. It doesn't say anything about making you feel tired or cranking up feelings of hunger.
This is not a valid excuse for gluttony.
I only dropped off his pointless ad hominem. The entire point, if he had one, was quoted. Nothing of which he italicized disagrees with calories in and out. Guess what, if you're facing an obesity epidemic, the food is getting absorbed just fine. Its working as intended. So, where is your point, exactly?
I don't think I am ignoring the science here and its not complex. You want it to be complex, that gives you an out. Too bad, so sad. You eat more than your TDEE per day, you wear it. You can scream metabolic rate all you like, not going to change the physics behind weightloss.
If it were as easy as eating less and doing more exercise then people wouldn't find it so hard to lose weight. Clearly it's more than just balancing the calorie chequebook.
Its not.
The main problem is that once you have put on significant weight your body fights you to stop to taking it off. If you try to eat fewer calories it cranks up the feelings of hunger and reduces energy consumption, making you feel tired, which in turn has mental health consequences over the longer term.
Got any sources for those bold claims?
Even if you don't believe that, you must surely accept that blaming people for "gluttony" doesn't work either. Berating and denigrating them for being overweight does not help or encourage them to lose weight. From a pure engineering point of view we need a better solution.
Yes I could have framed it better. How about this, you stop using food as entertainment and find something else. Also, vanity works far better as a reason to lose than health. Health is invisible.
Do tell, what are these many variables.
Calories eaten and absorbed minus calories burnt from exercise and resting metabolism will be stored as fat, sure. You might note that some parts of that sentence describe things not under voluntary control.
Calories eaten is under everyones voluntary control. I'm not sure what your point is here.
You know there are literally drugs that will make people just drop weight off, right? Problem is they have a bunch of terrible side-effects.
Yes, DNP. Its LD50 is quite low and can just kill you. Its much better to have a surgeon make a big cut where the fat has pressed against the skin thinning the blood flow, and thus the immune response, so he can bypass your stomach. Then when the infection sets into that cut, and the antibiotics are ineffective, he'll go into sepsis and multiple organ failure while his family hits up facebook begging for a donation. He dies in a coma.
Or maybe... eat less than your TDEE.
Go on, do tell me where I am mistaken.
No, you've never struggled with weight loss
Yeah about that.
Body processes aren't static: if you drop 300 calories from your diet your body will adjust (mainly noticed by having no energy and wanting to sleep a lot), and you won't actually lose weight. Is it *possible* to lose weight? Of course, but it's not easy , and the limiting factor is knowledge not "will power."
Might want to look up homeostasis before you make the claim the bodies processes aren't static. I don't ignore the evidence, I've lived it. Weightloss is not easy, but its simple. I didn't suffer a lack of energy nor did I wish to sleep a lot. Sorry, people that are overweight or obese are doing exactly what I was doing; eating more than they need per day and having the excess stored as fat.
Here's the part that you're missing:
While you can consume calories, what gets absorbed by the body, and then how it is used by the body varies greatly. I'd love to see tests that count calories before consumption and then check for calories when it comes out the other end.
They already did, and the result is called calories. Its called the modified atwater system. The case study of gut floras effects are interesting, but they are not breaking physics and creating energy from nothing.
A calorie deficit is not enough. You need to have a good balance or the weight will just pop back.
Its more than enough. The 'pop back' part is people that ignore their TDEE and stop counting. Its called a normal amount of food.
What a lovely argument you're having with yourself. Life sucks, and calories count. Even if you don't.
Oh wait thats right. They're controlling us through the food we eat. Its a global conspiracy cooked up by the food industry that is... oops, occams razor. People are overeating. Womp womp
A calorie deficit is not starving. Its called being a responsible adult and not a child that wants treats 24/7.
Another article, another piece to a solved puzzle. If you want to gain weight, what does google say? You have to eat more calories than you expend. The excess will be stored as fat.
And if you want to lose weight, you do the opposite. This will never stop working. People cling to these articles out of nothing but confirmation bias for their continued gluttony. Its not hormones, insulin, genetics, PCOS, or medications. Just gluttony.
Yeah, you completely missed the Kreb Cycle.
Not really.
but what you're really interested in isn't "calories in/calories out" as measured by "food in the mouth, physical activity of the muscles". You could put a metal ball with 10,000 calories of energy in your body, and not be able to metabolize any of it. So the *quality* of the calorie counts too.
Good thing calories come calculated using the modified atwater system which only includes things humans can gain energy from.
In the case of insulin, which drives fat accumulation, it is driven by blood sugar levels, which is driven by carbohydrate intake (particularly refined carbohydrates). If you don't include that in your calculation, you're using a simple formula for a complex scenario.
The calorie values for carbs(4kcal/gram), nor protein(5kcal/gram) or fat(9kcal/gram). Insulin doesn't drive fat accumulation without excess consumption. It doesn't create energy from nothing. Once again, you eat an excess over your TDEE, your body will store it as fat. There is no simpler way to put it.
You completely missed the entire chemistry behind insulin, insulin reaction, ketosis, and more.
I don't think I have sir.
The obesity epidemic is the direct result of sugar/starch/carb addiction.
No, its excess kcal over time.
Calories aren't useful for most people, but carbs are necessary for all.
Calories are necessary for human life. Its a unit of food energy. The books you are reading are running contrary to thermodynamics. Nobody has hijacked your brain using sugar. You just want to blame that so you don't have to take responsibility.
Physics doesn't really care either way. You eat an excess, you'll wear it.
I watched all the matches. The AI 'reading' the API didn't stop them making fucking 'dumb' decisions no human player would ever make. Buying salves(consumable healing item) constantly, wasting smokes randomly, double ward glitching. The only questionable play they made was the near instant hex on a blinking earthshaker about to land his combo. But top level players know what the fuck earthshaker does.
They are prepared for him to show up like that. Its called fucking learning, and its exactly what this AI did. You can talk about unfair reaction speed, but experience means far more, holding your disable cooldown for the right target.
Making the correct decision is not fucking cheating. They acted without hesitation, and they crushed m-dog, f-dog and every other dog that dared taunt them with 'baited kid'. Up until they let 4chans IRC aka twitch chat draft their 3rd game.
No, you miss the point.
It's not about calories, it's about net carbs after fiber. Counting calories works well for high-output individuals, who in the US, are about 2 in 10. The rest of the people need to count carbohydrates by the gram or other measure.
Calories isn't so much of a figment, rather, it doesn't portray the accuracy of a nutritional diet.
Counting calories works for everyone. If you consume more energy than you need, the excess is stored as fat. Our population is not facing nutritional deficiency, but an obesity epidemic. And exercise is a pitiful amount of energy expenditure, so its not the lack of that. Its the lack of accurately counting kcal consumption that is causing it. Blaming carbs, protein and fats for this is foolish.
Thats not communism, just a dictatorship. The fervor in which successful capitalists go to any length to pin failures on their greatest threat never fails to amuse. Better dead than red, right
Only if we get to label everything thats a GMO - in-line breeding or direct selections in a lab. Welcome to half your fruit and vegetable displays wearing the GMO label.
Exactly. The computer cannot be lied to, or rather it will except everything as truth. Trying to program in english is going to result in the same speed as reading legal documents that have had all the doubletalk and loopholes removed. English is a terrible language for specified instructions. The work needs to be done in breaking down the problem you want solved. But where do you even start?
Personally I wanted to write a small program that would act like a sound firewall for games. I know next to nothing about programming. It should sit inbetween the game and the final output to the audio driver, be able to initiate a listen mode, you fire off the offending sound in game, it populates a list with everything 'hear' and generates a unique ID for them, with an option to replay each until you find the offender. Then create a rule that blocks it.. The problem is I don't even know if this is even possible or what language besides c++ that could even handle it.
That's the answer they want people to hear. The real answer is no longer having to pay nvidia.