Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad. Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away. Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work. Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock. Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money] Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
What about the windows version of Tribes 2? (loki did the linux port,and it's rock solid)
"Unhandled Exception at " Is the buzzword of the day.
Perhaps on average open-source software is buggier (due to programmers with larger 'maverick' streaks), but there is still some shocking commercial stuff out there.
Ever stopped to wonder just how many people would own Micros~1 Office 97 if there weren't any illegal software out there? Of course Microsoft doesn't mind pirating, because it means people get their software for free. You get Windows 98 for free, and then decide to BUY Office 97. You wouldn't have bought Office if you didn't already have Windows. Granted, of course they'd rather we all paid for the software, more money to them, but they understand the economics. Better to "give away" a free OS and then charge a packet for the applications.
Of course, I'd be more inclined to pay AU$150 for Linux, and AU$5 for Windows, but that's just a pipedream.
Great. We can have all the software support we like. What about hardware support? Whee...Quake3 installed, but still only 15fps because of poor drivers! Linux has a way to go yet before it gets seriously considered as a gaming platform.
How can Tom possibly make a scientifically stable benchmark, using beta drivers? nVidia themselves say that the GeForce256 [I still like the name NV10] currently does not have a set of complete [funtionality/optimisation] drivers. Wouldn't it make sense to wait for decent software before running your benchmarks?
Call me biased, but I'm not really suprised when a tragedy such as this occurs. Given the US's reputation of 'damn the consequences, it's my legal right to own a gun so I will' and the statistical probability that given a population of some 300 million (?) all you need is a.. one in 300million chance of someone snapping, and of having access to the firepower, and something has to happen. I, however, live in Australia. We recently [2-3 years ago] had a similar situation [Port Arthur], and this resulted in a very controversial change to our legistation, basically [and i'm generalising here] outlawing all semi-automatic rifles [pistols are already illegal without the licence]. We may only have a pop'n of 19million, but gun-inflicted fatalities are proportionally less than in the US. It is my opinion that the US gun ownership laws are at fault. Unfortunately, they cannot be changed democratically, as the people are sufficiently ignorant enough to not see the greater good in outlawing personal guns. It's entrenched in "The American Way".
Overlocking a pair of 466s? You have to be joking...
The only FSB speed I would consider running anything at is either 66 or 100mhz, and to overclock a 466 celeron up to a 100mhz FSB, it would run at 700mhz. Sounds nice, but is, as far as I know, impossible to attain. Even with 2.3v through the cpu.
The easiest to overclock have always been the 300As, (which I myself have running at 4.5x103), but the 366s became popular for running at 550 with a bit of tweakage.
I have a mate with a Abit BP6, and two 366s running at 550 mhz each, which totals to 1.1GHz, if you use a SMP-enabled OS, such as linux or NT.
However, his case temp is up to 40 degrees celcius, which I regard as ridiculous (as mine runs at 20).
My point is, the higher the clock multipler, the harder they get to overlock. Anything above 366 is very hard to reach 100mhz (FSB), and running the FSB at 75 or 83Mhz is just plain stupid, due to the AGP/PCI overclock, which can (and ofter does) result in destroying your cards.
So buying a dual 466mhz system, with hopes to overclock, will leave you disappointed.
Overlocking a pair of 466s? You have to be joking... The only FSB speed I would consider running anything at is either 66 or 100mhz, and to overclock a 466 celeron up to a 100mhz FSB, it would run at 700mhz. Sounds nice, but is, as far as I know, impossible to attain. Even with 2.3v through the cpu.
The easiest to overclock have always been the 300As, (which I myself have running at 4.5x103), but the 366s became popular for running at 550 with a bit of tweakage. I have a mate with a Abit BP6, and two 366s running at 550 mhz each, which totals to 1.1GHz, if you use a SMP-enabled OS, such as linux or NT. However, his case temp is up to 40 degrees celcius, which I regard as ridiculous (as mine runs at 20).
My point is, the higher the clock multipler, the harder they get to overlock. Anything above 366 is very hard to reach 100mhz (FSB), and running the FSB at 75 or 83Mhz is just plain stupid, due to the AGP/PCI overclock, which can (and ofter does) result in destroying your cards.
So buying a dual 466mhz system, with hopes to overclock, will leave you disappointed.
Slashdot Mirror
http://www.google.com/mobile/shopper/
Does exactly this. Lets you scan the product or barcode, and will find you prices online.
Because you're not killingpeople?
See A1 GP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_Grand_Prix
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
And then somebody reminds you of the Woomera and Baxter "illegal immigrant" detention camps.
So, can i blame you for the rushing of Tribes 2, and the dissolution of Dynamix?
I'd add a ";)", but I'm not completely joking.
*sigh*
maybe you should look up the object tag for using gifs when the user agent doesn't support PNG.
oh, hangon, IE is notorious for bad OBJECT handling.
nevermind.
What about the windows version of Tribes 2? (loki did the linux port ,and it's rock solid)
"Unhandled Exception at " Is the buzzword of the day.
Perhaps on average open-source software is buggier (due to programmers with larger 'maverick' streaks), but there is still some shocking commercial stuff out there.
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Silly yanks.
Tribes 2 is going to have a linux client, and is in beta testing right now (for both windows and linux)
May I suggest Putty?
FAQ
You're forgetting that Optus@Home and BigPond Advance now have cable services serving the cities on the east coast of Australia.
AFAIK, UT does not support SMP.
Ever stopped to wonder just how many people would own Micros~1 Office 97 if there weren't any illegal software out there?
Of course Microsoft doesn't mind pirating, because it means people get their software for free. You get Windows 98 for free, and then decide to BUY Office 97. You wouldn't have bought Office if you didn't already have Windows.
Granted, of course they'd rather we all paid for the software, more money to them, but they understand the economics. Better to "give away" a free OS and then charge a packet for the applications.
Of course, I'd be more inclined to pay AU$150 for Linux, and AU$5 for Windows, but that's just a pipedream.
"Only now, at the end, do you understand..."
They're here
I'm talking about a celeron 300a@464mhz, 128mb ram, with a asus v3400 tnt [16mb sgram].
:P
The framerate is godawful.
It's the poor quality of the nVidia drivers that are slowing me down. Sometimes I pine for a 3DFX card..sometimes
Great.
We can have all the software support we like.
What about hardware support?
Whee...Quake3 installed, but still only 15fps because of poor drivers!
Linux has a way to go yet before it gets seriously considered as a gaming platform.
How can Tom possibly make a scientifically stable benchmark, using beta drivers? nVidia themselves say that the GeForce256 [I still like the name NV10] currently does not have a set of complete [funtionality/optimisation] drivers. Wouldn't it make sense to wait for decent software before running your benchmarks?
Bah.
Call me biased, but I'm not really suprised when a tragedy such as this occurs. .. one in 300million chance of someone snapping, and of having access to the firepower, and something has to happen.
Given the US's reputation of 'damn the consequences, it's my legal right to own a gun so I will' and the statistical probability that given a population of some 300 million (?) all you need is a
I, however, live in Australia. We recently [2-3 years ago] had a similar situation [Port Arthur], and this resulted in a very controversial change to our legistation, basically [and i'm generalising here] outlawing all semi-automatic rifles [pistols are already illegal without the licence]. We may only have a pop'n of 19million, but gun-inflicted fatalities are proportionally less than in the US.
It is my opinion that the US gun ownership laws are at fault. Unfortunately, they cannot be changed democratically, as the people are sufficiently ignorant enough to not see the greater good in outlawing personal guns. It's entrenched in "The American Way".
Oh well...it's your country.
Finally..something good about living in Australia.
I suppose our extreme lack of encryption laws partially compensates for the incoming GST...
Perhaps the USA is not the greatest 'democracy', if the politicians don't listen to the people...
Sorry about the repeat post!
Overlocking a pair of 466s? You have to be joking...
The only FSB speed I would consider running anything at is either 66 or 100mhz, and to overclock a 466 celeron up to a 100mhz FSB, it would run at 700mhz. Sounds nice, but is, as far as I know, impossible to attain. Even with 2.3v through the cpu.
The easiest to overclock have always been the 300As, (which I myself have running at 4.5x103), but the 366s became popular for running at 550 with a bit of tweakage.
I have a mate with a Abit BP6, and two 366s running at 550 mhz each, which totals to 1.1GHz, if you use a SMP-enabled OS, such as linux or NT.
However, his case temp is up to 40 degrees celcius, which I regard as ridiculous (as mine runs at 20).
My point is, the higher the clock multipler, the harder they get to overlock. Anything above 366 is very hard to reach 100mhz (FSB), and running the FSB at 75 or 83Mhz is just plain stupid, due to the AGP/PCI overclock, which can (and ofter does) result in destroying your cards.
So buying a dual 466mhz system, with hopes to overclock, will leave you disappointed.
---Transmission Ends.---
Overlocking a pair of 466s? You have to be joking...
The only FSB speed I would consider running anything at is either 66 or 100mhz, and to overclock a 466 celeron up to a 100mhz FSB, it would run at 700mhz. Sounds nice, but is, as far as I know, impossible to attain. Even with 2.3v through the cpu.
The easiest to overclock have always been the 300As, (which I myself have running at 4.5x103), but the 366s became popular for running at 550 with a bit of tweakage.
I have a mate with a Abit BP6, and two 366s running at 550 mhz each, which totals to 1.1GHz, if you use a SMP-enabled OS, such as linux or NT.
However, his case temp is up to 40 degrees celcius, which I regard as ridiculous (as mine runs at 20).
My point is, the higher the clock multipler, the harder they get to overlock. Anything above 366 is very hard to reach 100mhz (FSB), and running the FSB at 75 or 83Mhz is just plain stupid, due to the AGP/PCI overclock, which can (and ofter does) result in destroying your cards.
So buying a dual 466mhz system, with hopes to overclock, will leave you disappointed.
---Transmission Ends.---