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Linux (Car) Crashes At Indy 500
thanksforthecrabs writes to let us know that the Linux-sponsored Indy 500 car had a rough day at the track this weekend: it was the first car to crash on the track and finished dead last. Joost sponsored a car that came in a respectable seventh.
Oblig: Of course it crashed because of a bad driver.
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Go canucks, habs, and sens!
It crashed but it still made it to the finish thanks to an experienced root at the helm.
Take that Netcraft.
Moral of the story: Linux doesn't have good uptimes when you run it on unstable hardware.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Are there any photos or videos available of the crash? I'm all for linux, but seeing Tux splashed all over the road should be an interesting sight.
I wonder if M$'s people were at the track?
That's impossible; everyone knows Linux can't crash. He must have been dual-booting Windows.
It did as well as the geek vote of '04.
The penguin couldn't see over the dashboard.
GetOuttaMySpace - The Anti-Social Network
Obviously he couldn't see through his.
Everyone here's gonna post some smartass comment about it all so just have a bot go through and give everyone +5 Funny to save time as well as valuable mod points.
I like basketball!!1!
...cuz this is the only way you'll see Linux crash....
we must be gracious and magnaminous and say, damm i hate it when that happens.
now we know how Bill Gates feels
Linux Crashes At Indy 500
I wouldn't have even heard about this if the car didn't crash!!
--jeffk++
ipv6 is my vpn
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: it's hard to find drivers for Linux.
Poor driver support as usual.
That reminds me when Sun Microsystems fielded the only yacht to have ever sunk in the Americas Cup. Sun had this tongue-in-cheek orientation video with a "thrill of victory / agony of defeat" section that showed the video clip of their yacht, with the Sun logo prominently emblazoned on the side, going to Davey Jones' Locker.
Done with slashdot, done with nerds, getting a life.
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer was spotted at the sides lines at the Indie 500 with a miniature version of the Linux-sponsored Indie 500 car. When questioned why he was shaking it around in a comical fasion, Ballmer responded he was trying his hand at voodoo.
Everyone, try not to Panic!
So many jokes.....
ATI drivers, binary blobs vs open source, etc.
Shamelessly stolen from Digg
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of them...
Once I was a four stone apology. Now I am two separate gorillas.
They would be the worst of the best and crash quickly apparently.
Maybe Microsoft should try making cars.
A penguin walks into an auto repair shop. "There's oil all over the motor and I have to add oil every day," she says. The mechanic says it will take an hour to check out so the penguin leaves.
It's a hot day, and not being an African penguin doesn't like the heat and decides to get an ice cream cone to cool off.
Of course, hot as it is it drips all over her chest. An hour later she goes to check on her car.
"Looks like you blew a seal," the machanic says.
"Oh, no," laughs the penguin, "That's just ice cream."
I blame the WINE.
"... meanwhile, the Microsoft car was seen slinking away from the scene with a guilty look on its face."
The Technonaut
People are panicking? Why are they panicking, is something wrong? And why say "TRY not to," is it so bad that panic is almost a certainty? FOR GOD'S SAKE, WHAT AREN'T YOU TELLING US?
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Balmer can now "honestly" say that Linux is the first to crash.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yudhishtira#Drona.27
On Sunday, March 5th, 1995 oneAustralia sank. See this: http://www.americascup.com/en/acclopaedia/boatdest iny/index.php?idIndex=0&idContent=2540/
Given the amount of cool as shit tech that goes into racing, if there was ever a sport embraced by geeks, racing would be it :P
*coughs* The Detroit Redwings are probably the team you are thinking of, not the Detroit "Penguins". Or perhaps you are thinking of the NBA team, the Detroit Pistons. But there are no penguins in Detroit.
The team you're looking for is the Pittsburgh Penguins. Detroit is the Red Wings.
...is not the year of Linux on the Racetrack.
If you're not first, you're last. - Ricky Bobby
Considering it didn't have windows.
They didn't even MAKE a Vista car. They're still clicking "[Cancel] or [Accept]" boxes asking if they want to install an engine, cup holders and mandatory spyware. Not to mention the fact that it's almost impossible to find any good Vista drivers...
As for the Linux car, this just goes to show why you shouldn't use binary drivers! If the driver had been open source, we could've just analyzed the core dump and had him patched in minutes!
Car crashes Linux and then phones "President" George W. Bush.
Does this look like NASCAR to you?
It would be better if you checked to see if you knew what you were talking about before posting comments.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
This is Grand Prix racing, not a bunch of hicks with tractors from NASCAR. You know, super expensive cars, handsome drivers with fancy European names like "Dario", silken ascots worn under tight-fitting racing uniforms, sponsorships by barely profitable Internet firms . . .
OMFG! IT'S 1999 AGAIN!
Give a man a fish and you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish, and he'll say "WHERE'S MY FISH, YOU IDIOT?"
Black Tarmac of Death.
...but a Windows car would have crashed earlier and more often.
Obviously Linux isn't ready for the race-track ;)
find / -iname life 2>
Could you help us out maybe by posting a relevant URL here? Maybe to some sort of news article with more information?
If probably does look like NASCAR to him. That's the point.
...that the suspend operation worked flawlessly and throttling handled by hardware monitoring was handled to perfection.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
...only because you get to sit on your arse the whole time
He probably also meant "Stanley Cup", unless he has mistaken the Penguin to be interchangable with the Tiger.
Exactly! The Detroit Zoo is in Royal Oak.
That will tell you why it crashed.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
That was the commenter's point, going straight over your head.
Yes.Oh, wait, I see the difference now. Indy 500 is "Go fast, turn left, winner drinks Champagne." But NASCAR is "Go fast, turn left, winner drinks Budweiser."
Maybe we should just stick with the lame driver jokes.
John
...this proves that no matter how bad your drivers are linux will always keep you on your feet
In this timing benchmark, the Tux car was first to complete the race.
When I was in college I won a sweepstakes to go to Bob Bondurant at Sears Point, this is before they moved to Arizona. I learn much in that week of driving school and one of classes was driving a mini-Indy race car. That car was difficult to drive since you are fighting G's and no power steering on those fat wheels. My arms where sore because of steering and shoulders and rear where bruised because of banging against the side of car for just one hour for only 160 miles. I hate to do that for 500 miles. It does look easy in those video games but the real thing that is missing in those games are the G's and steering effort.
The Microsoft sponsored car turned blue with white writing mid way through and idled in the middle of the track for the rest of the race.
After hearing that the car qualified, I watched as the cars were rolled out of the pits and the first few laps of the race, trying to find the car with the linux sponsorship (I only saw the rendering until just now). The car was nowhere to be found, so I completely forgot about it and figured that it blew up/crashed/dq'd on Carburetion Day. Now I see that the entire tux500 project came down to a tiny sticker that was visible on TV for about 5 seconds when the car wrecked. Sounds a bit like a waste.
I believe the winner drinks milk.
Those generic drivers are always unstable.
Shows what I know.
John
He had to swerve to avoid a flying chair...
//Nothing to see here, please move along.
Ha ha!
The Linux car might not have faired well, but the Go Daddy girl came in 8th. http://www.danicaracing.com/
And I'd much rather see her on the track.
In Soviet Russia, Nigel makes plans for you!
Top Gear tried a side-by-side comparison a few years ago. Lap Laguna Seca in a Honda NSX on a PlayStation. Then do it for real. Compare. Try not to shit yourself on the Corkscrew. :-)
...laura
Well, this is what happens when your pit crew scoffs and tells you to "RTFM" when you pull-in for a pit stop.
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
I'm not sure I understand exactly what this story is about. Can someone maybe post a car analogy for me?
Didn't the Renault team use SUSE Linux for all their computing needs? And they did (still do?) really well. Now, seeing the Linux logo in F1 would be cool. That's real motorsports for you. (And I don't give a cr** about cars anyway.) - K
Concatenation of the discussion between my brother and I immediately after we heard about the crash:
At first, it appeared to be a problem with the IndyCar extensions to X, given the user was able to take it down to a console-based tow truck (it wasn't pretty, but it at least got a controlled shutdown). However, further investigation showed it was definitely a hardware issue, as the system couldn't get back on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway network after a full restart of the engine. Most probable cause was a network collision.
Demanding constant attention will only lead to attention.
They should have used OpenBSD
Here is a list of things people who wish to support open source software should be doing with their money, sorted by priority.
1. Donate directly to open source developers.
2. Donate directly to open source project organizers, moderators, user supporters, testers and bug reporters.
3. Donate directly to open source projects that you don't use.
4. Donate to EFF and/or FSF.
5. Donate to scholarship funds.
6. Burn your money in a trash can.
7. Donate to Tux 500 or SpreadFirefox
Campaigns like SpreadFirefox and Tux 500 are bad for OSS. They takes money that could be going to open source projects and give it to newspapers and (in this case) crashy car drivers.
Some open source developers will reject compensation, others will welcome it. In my opinion, they get first dibs on any money coming in.
Next in priority is tackling the administrative costs of operating an open source project, namely compensating the individuals and institutions that volunteer time and effort and bandwidth maintaining servers and moderating forums, etc.
If you feel you've given amply to all the projects you love and use and can't think of anything better to do with your money, why not support a project that you don't use? Or perhaps even a project that you dislike? Linux supporters support FreeBSD and vice versa. At least then the money stays in the community.
EFF and FSF are great organizations that need your bucks. EFF protects your favorite project from frivolous imaginary patent lawsuits and FSF promotes OSS intelligently.
If you still have money to burn, give it to scholarship funds or schools to help foster the education of the next generation of open source developers.
If after all that you've still got cash in your pocket, Mr. Gates, then you have RMS' permission to burn it or give it to other worthy causes, but for the love of God please do not support campaigns like SpreadFirefox and Tux 500 or any other campaign that aims to "get the word out" or crap like that because when push comes to shove, it's just writing a check to the New York Times instead of the hard working people who make your favorite open source project possible.
Thanks,
_aa_
Aggressive garbage collection during the race.
Linux has been running the much better Indy 5000 since July 1997. (note, search for R5000)
The #77 Indy car raced with bad tires because M$ patented a #77 Indy car with good ones.
****whoosh****
Even though parent posted as AC, find it hard to believe it was marked as Troll... he/she does have a point... perhaps flamebait?
Next time try: /etc/init.d/brakes restart
and paste results here.
Thanx
of paying so much money for a sponsorship. The driver is not going to get a lot of media attention, and the only way Linux was going to get any television time was if a) the car won (unlikely) or b) the car crashed/engine blew up (very likely). Choice b would yield very little air time, and with drivers like Hornish Jr., Dixon, Castroneves, Kanaan, Wheldon, and Patrick, Moreno would have to get very lucky.
Please, stop raising money for pointless advertisements and sponsorships. Open-source would benefit from better and more effective means of advertising.
It's not the underdog, dipshit, it's just better.
Nobody's panicking. Well, except for that guy over there who calls himself The Colonel...
... but linux had the "Screaming accept..." bit pretty much since birth.
We call it sudo, and some of us actually consider it a good thing.
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I did say "backmarker"
-- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! "You are what you do when it counts" - the Masso
Talking about Slashdot, has there been some change in the tagging, recentely ? I mean, not long ago, it the subject was any question e.g. "Is Linux ready for the desktop ?". The tags would invariably be: yes, no, maybe, wtf... But I've noticed that now, it seems to make (a little) more sense... I guess I could have checked out the FAQs about this but hey, this is /.
An open sores driver might have gotten a virus after a crash like that...
Tired of all the isms, don't exploit people as an employer, or a government, mmmmK?
Who's Joost?
I always thought otherwise, but the geek(car) performance proves that auto racing must in fact be a SPORT, not a science.
Maybe they shouldn't have used open source lug nuts... next time get proprietary lug nuts and use an ndis wrapper.
Crash and any publicity is good for linux, nobody would have mentioned about it if that car had finished 15th without any incident.
It crashed because Linux already crashed long time ago with the XP launch.
Linux doesn't work for the desktop, nor for the speedway. HAHAHA!
I was at the race and was looking for Tux, but with the logo on the nose cone of the car there was no way to see it unless the car was standing still and you had a zoom lens.
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Here's some of my videos (I know, I need a new camera) --
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-54575453
Here's my pictures, although you won't see Tux in them --
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/head_dunce/album/5764
If this Tux500 thing had something to offer me, like access to the garages, I would have helped out with the sponsorship. To just give money to get a Tux sticker on a car seems like something Red Hat or Novell should be doing, not me. Although I'm sure the guy who thought of this idea had access to the pits, garages, or anywhere else he wanted to go...
Next time lets enter a BSOD car so that it won't look so bad in comparison.
Table-ized A.I.
The driver must be thinking about "What terminal command should I use to turn left" when he was facing the wall. ;) :P
Poor driver, The next time there must be an internet line in the car to google it fast,
Be like shadow in the light or darkness.KMZ
Just imaginge RMS in a GNU car in the race.
He will forget the race and heads straight toward reporter's station when one of them calls his car, linux car, by mistake.
Be like shadow in the light or darkness.KMZ
The irony is surreal...
No sig for you! Come back one year!
After we all complained to CmdrTaco about the shitty tags like that, it seems they are devalued quite a bit. Although, now all we get are the tags that correspond to the topics chosen by the editor for that story and rarely anything else. :/
'Yes, firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.'
It actually happened! LINUX CRASHED! now we know something that Bill told us long time ago! It IS POSSIBLE ! linux can crash!
I was there, and I think I'm the only person who actually saw the Tux logo. That's because I was sitting in the grandstand right behind 77's pits, and their gear had a big Tux logo and "Linux" on it. Nose cone logo: very hard to see. Toolbox logo: very very easy to see if you were in those few sections of stands.
Also, for those who don't understand the subtler points of racing, yeah, he was the first to crash, but after all the rain the night before, the track had hardly any rubber on it, and all it took was a little tiny slide to the high end of the turns to crash.
I was listening to the drivers' radios, and a lot of them were complaining about how "green" the track was. Unfortunately, 77 was running slow, and was doing the courteous thing by letting the faster cars pass him, but he got into the marbles and hit the wall.
No Blank Wall Of Defeat jokes? Oh, wrong OS.....
Free, as in your money being freed from the confines of your account.
Actually, Linux is quite good at staying up on bad hardware. BadMem patches, hdparm...
Problem Exists Between Steering Wheel And Chair
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Unix Philosophy:
section 1:
12: Rule of Repair - When you must fail, fail noisily and as soon as possible.
Section 2:
3: Build a prototype as soon as possible
Section 3:
1. Allow the user to tailor the environment
9. Worse is better
I think the Linux car gave it a good Unix style first run. If it was a Windows
car, The steering wheel would have frozen, the car would have taken off in the
wrong direction for a while, everything would stop moving and you would left stuck
unable to get out or turn it off.
Need help finding the flow? http://www.myspace.com/naturalismandbalance
Slashdot's SOP is to castrate any feature people complain about. So there you have it. What I find amusing is all the people willing to pay for it anyway, but hey, it's their money.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
They were probably using a Microsoft driver.
Do you really want an answer to that question? I doubt it, but here it is anyway. LOL YES. Unless your a car freak or an NASCAR nut or a racing fan in general hell yeah it does. They all look alike if its not what your into. It's like expecting a girl who doesn't watch baseball to call you when its bottom of the ninth with a 2-0 count.
This is Slashdot! Give me the latest gadget, bug, or OS project! This ain't english class so don't confuse the two!