Since when do you need support for a console? From my first 2600 to my current PlayStation, all that was necissary to play it was connecting the cables correctly (it's almost impossible to connect them incorrectly), drop in the game and turn the thing on.
Leave it to Microsoft to create an entire new industry just by entering a new market.
Is the DVD going to come with an ending? Watching that movie in the theater was like making out with your middle-school girlfriend for three hours and then having to go home...
Vad things happen to stupid people all the time, just check out rotten.com.
If you think it's normal to blindly click "ok" on that dialog that comes up asking you to either download or execute something, then it's going to happen to you too.
...and maybe after you get ripped by a virus or some other malicious code you'll learn your lesson.
I think it's funny that the people who think this is a valid article are the same ones bashing the lion and lamb garbage...it's the same damn thing.
That there are websites out there like this to serve as a resource to parents who can't waste their precious time learning about what their kids are playing with!
What would we do without a wonderful resource such as "the lion and the lamb"? It makes me yearn for the days of the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) and Tipper Gore helping me know what music kids should listen to and what music will make them kill themselves and do drugs.
Because God knows there were no drugs being used before rock music!
My only hope is that some day there will be groups of concerned citizens like this to tell my children what to eat, because I beleive strongly that M&M's cause tooth decay, and you know that over 95% of serial killers have at least one cavity?!?
Howstuffworks has been a great source of information for me and I think they are one of the most valuable resources on the internet.
What a waste of their time it was to publish this article. Aside from the fact that 90% of the web isn't worth a penny per page, imagine the impossibility of managing the accounting.
The other angle on this is that there were information systems like this before the internet. Networks like CompuServ, AOL, etc made you pay for the information on their networks and guess what happened? The internet brought free publishing and subscribing to information to anyone who could manage a connection.
Do you really beleive that if such a system was put in place that some brilliant (or even medeocre) hackers wouldn't build a free underground fabric underneath?
And still yet, any company who wants to draw visitors to their site would simply drop the surcharge and let people in for free. I have read about movie theaters who give free admission simply to sell concessions. Once this happens, it will become the expectation of the consumer and all other sites will have to follow suit, leaving us right where we started, only having wasted an un-imagineable amount of resources implementing this system.
I spent the last year trying to find solutions to the development problems we are having by reading many "modern" books about managing projects, the trade-offs between cost and quality, and the conflicts between the developer, manager and customer perspectives and while I did find several usefull books on particular aspects (code complete, the humane interface, etc), I struggled to find something that put universal meaning to the whole picture.
At this point I began to look outside of the industry and see if I could find parallels in other facets of business. Indeed, I didn't have to look far as my first shot (the automotive industry) was an almost perfect analogy.
If you look at the early days of the automobile, there were many companies who were strapping motors to horse-carts and selling this as a solution (simular to some of the first online shopping cart solutions). These vehicles were not very efficient or safe, and seldom out-performed what they were designed to replace (horses and steam-engines), but for the eccentric few who desired to be on the "cutting edge", they did the trick, and they did prove the concept.
The next step was to improve the device itself, improve reliabilty, performance, efficiency etc. This required more expertiese and refined the list of "manufacturers" to companies who had enough engineering expertise to understand the underlying principals involved (mechanics, power, etc) and make improvements at that level. This improved the device but conversely increased the expense beyond simply the cost of the parts. The next step was to engineer the "product".
The most significant event at this stage was Ford and the assembly line, which was able to make up for the up-front investment in engineering by reducing the cost of manufacturing.
After this stage we bounce between the engineering of the device and the engineering of the product, continually refining actual features and coming up with new ways to convince people they need to buy them.
This is where I beleive software is today. I think that consumers are generally smart enought to know the difference between a quality application and a cheap one, but are willing to settle based on cost (the reason you don't see duesenburgs anymore (I'm not sure about the spelling)).
I think it's funny that we think our problems as web developers are new. It is easy to parallel the problems we have writing software with any other industry that involves engineering and marketing, how arrogant of us to beleive that we are any different.
I suggest picking up any systems design and analysis book from the '70s for starters if you're looking for guidance as a developer, and if you need a bigger-picture view, read up on the industrial revolution.
I guess I should have known better than to expect a subjective analysis from an article on a site named "linuxworld", but even considering that, I would expect a more realistic portrail of the network environment in an industrial setting.
While I beleive that the linux/unix choice might make sense in the university (in particular, for Comp Sci students), can you imagine mom, pop and jr trying to troubleshoot a dial up issue on linux so that jr can upload his homework?
My favorite is this quote:
The school using Unix can reasonably expect to achieve nearly perfect system reliability while maintaining a relative immunity to student attacks.
How can anything based on open source consider itself immune? Doesn't the author understand that it's easier to hack a system when you can know EVERYTHING about how it works?
This is what I think is frustrating about the unix/linux community and why I think that it will never be accepted uniformally in commercial environments. This unabashed bravado that boasts such wonderful reliability and security.
I agree that it is possible for unix to be so reliable and such, with proper administration, but in reality administrators like this are few and far between. The same argument can be made for Windows environments (I have three web servers and a database cluster running on Win2k and I have had one unscheduled outage, which was caused by a HVAC failure). The better argument is that Windows administrators are weaker as a group than unix administrators, which I would agree, but to say that there is some magical attribute to the unix operating system that makes it hack-and-crash-proof is innacurate.
Anyone know how well this works with Redhat? I'd like to pick one up to play with but it would suck to get it home and find out that the built-in video won't run X or something equally lame.
Unfortunately I can't take credit for that statement, although I would respond to your last statement with "who's time is saved in the long run?".
I have used linux in production environments as a server os for DNS, HTTP, etc and I've been very happy with it, howerver the time it takes to deploy these solutions, compared to the same things on NT, especially in sophisticated configurations, is almost always double.
You could argue that this is a factor of my incompetence as a linux sysadmin and you may be correct, howerver I have been working with Linux as long as I have been working with NT and these deployment times have always been about the same (linux being twice as long as NT), so I would say that it is only fair to say that if I am a poor linux sysadmin and a strong NT administrator, this is a function of linux as a product and the learning curve required to attain an equal level of competence with NT.
The bottom line: either way you look at it, more time must be spent with linux, either learning it or deploying it, than Windows. This means that for customers of a consultant, you quickly make of the difference in inital cost of purchase with longer billable hours.
I'm not trying to say that linux is worthless or anything else, I'm just pushing for more realistic comparisons between the two products.
Does anyone know what groupware (calendar, etc) they are using for the linux part of this comparison? Does it have a windows client, or integrate with Outlook?
I know how much fun it is to support Exchange, but our users demand integrated groupware on the Windows platform, so it's hard to justify a solution that has to be run in a browser or worse, only runs on Linux.
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Maybe it will be an equalizer between the slick corporate lawyer in the $1000.00 suit and a smaller software company trying to defend themselves?
yeah, fp
Since when do you need support for a console? From my first 2600 to my current PlayStation, all that was necissary to play it was connecting the cables correctly (it's almost impossible to connect them incorrectly), drop in the game and turn the thing on.
Leave it to Microsoft to create an entire new industry just by entering a new market.
I guess I didn't make it clear that I ment the girlfriend I had when I was in middle school....
...I don't know about you buy mine was 25 ; )
Sure you can ... do you know how to read? ;>
What, are you Amish?
Is the DVD going to come with an ending? Watching that movie in the theater was like making out with your middle-school girlfriend for three hours and then having to go home...
...only you can't even finish the movie yourself!
You are the stupidest poster I've seen today. Why would you think IBM owned Dell? Christ...
You also mis-quoted fucking AC/DC. What the fuck?
You remind me of my sister-in-law who thought Betty White created the American flag.
Vad things happen to stupid people all the time, just check out rotten.com.
If you think it's normal to blindly click "ok" on that dialog that comes up asking you to either download or execute something, then it's going to happen to you too.
...and maybe after you get ripped by a virus or some other malicious code you'll learn your lesson.
I think it's funny that the people who think this is a valid article are the same ones bashing the lion and lamb garbage...it's the same damn thing.
That there are websites out there like this to serve as a resource to parents who can't waste their precious time learning about what their kids are playing with!
What would we do without a wonderful resource such as "the lion and the lamb"? It makes me yearn for the days of the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) and Tipper Gore helping me know what music kids should listen to and what music will make them kill themselves and do drugs.
Because God knows there were no drugs being used before rock music!
My only hope is that some day there will be groups of concerned citizens like this to tell my children what to eat, because I beleive strongly that M&M's cause tooth decay, and you know that over 95% of serial killers have at least one cavity?!?
Hail Jesus!
"This provides a common language for authentication to ensure no one company controls the single authentication network" said a rep. "
Right, no one company other than AOL.
Howstuffworks has been a great source of information for me and I think they are one of the most valuable resources on the internet.
What a waste of their time it was to publish this article. Aside from the fact that 90% of the web isn't worth a penny per page, imagine the impossibility of managing the accounting.
The other angle on this is that there were information systems like this before the internet. Networks like CompuServ, AOL, etc made you pay for the information on their networks and guess what happened? The internet brought free publishing and subscribing to information to anyone who could manage a connection.
Do you really beleive that if such a system was put in place that some brilliant (or even medeocre) hackers wouldn't build a free underground fabric underneath?
And still yet, any company who wants to draw visitors to their site would simply drop the surcharge and let people in for free. I have read about movie theaters who give free admission simply to sell concessions. Once this happens, it will become the expectation of the consumer and all other sites will have to follow suit, leaving us right where we started, only having wasted an un-imagineable amount of resources implementing this system.
what a waste...
You're right, I guess time and technology didn't have any effect on the automotive industry.
...now I need to go so I can check the spokes on my Model T and fill'er up with petrolium distillates, post-haste!
I agree.
I spent the last year trying to find solutions to the development problems we are having by reading many "modern" books about managing projects, the trade-offs between cost and quality, and the conflicts between the developer, manager and customer perspectives and while I did find several usefull books on particular aspects (code complete, the humane interface, etc), I struggled to find something that put universal meaning to the whole picture.
At this point I began to look outside of the industry and see if I could find parallels in other facets of business. Indeed, I didn't have to look far as my first shot (the automotive industry) was an almost perfect analogy.
If you look at the early days of the automobile, there were many companies who were strapping motors to horse-carts and selling this as a solution (simular to some of the first online shopping cart solutions). These vehicles were not very efficient or safe, and seldom out-performed what they were designed to replace (horses and steam-engines), but for the eccentric few who desired to be on the "cutting edge", they did the trick, and they did prove the concept.
The next step was to improve the device itself, improve reliabilty, performance, efficiency etc. This required more expertiese and refined the list of "manufacturers" to companies who had enough engineering expertise to understand the underlying principals involved (mechanics, power, etc) and make improvements at that level. This improved the device but conversely increased the expense beyond simply the cost of the parts. The next step was to engineer the "product".
The most significant event at this stage was Ford and the assembly line, which was able to make up for the up-front investment in engineering by reducing the cost of manufacturing.
After this stage we bounce between the engineering of the device and the engineering of the product, continually refining actual features and coming up with new ways to convince people they need to buy them.
This is where I beleive software is today. I think that consumers are generally smart enought to know the difference between a quality application and a cheap one, but are willing to settle based on cost (the reason you don't see duesenburgs anymore (I'm not sure about the spelling)).
Is someone going to mod down this illiterate off-topic post?
I think it's funny that we think our problems as web developers are new. It is easy to parallel the problems we have writing software with any other industry that involves engineering and marketing, how arrogant of us to beleive that we are any different.
I suggest picking up any systems design and analysis book from the '70s for starters if you're looking for guidance as a developer, and if you need a bigger-picture view, read up on the industrial revolution.
I guess I should have known better than to expect a subjective analysis from an article on a site named "linuxworld", but even considering that, I would expect a more realistic portrail of the network environment in an industrial setting.
While I beleive that the linux/unix choice might make sense in the university (in particular, for Comp Sci students), can you imagine mom, pop and jr trying to troubleshoot a dial up issue on linux so that jr can upload his homework?
My favorite is this quote:
The school using Unix can reasonably expect to achieve nearly perfect system reliability while maintaining a relative immunity to student attacks.
How can anything based on open source consider itself immune? Doesn't the author understand that it's easier to hack a system when you can know EVERYTHING about how it works?
This is what I think is frustrating about the unix/linux community and why I think that it will never be accepted uniformally in commercial environments. This unabashed bravado that boasts such wonderful reliability and security.
I agree that it is possible for unix to be so reliable and such, with proper administration, but in reality administrators like this are few and far between. The same argument can be made for Windows environments (I have three web servers and a database cluster running on Win2k and I have had one unscheduled outage, which was caused by a HVAC failure). The better argument is that Windows administrators are weaker as a group than unix administrators, which I would agree, but to say that there is some magical attribute to the unix operating system that makes it hack-and-crash-proof is innacurate.
Thank you, o lord of the moderators!
I think I've seen more zero-point posts in this thread than ever before....
...and I'm sure I won't be the last ; )
Anyone know how well this works with Redhat? I'd like to pick one up to play with but it would suck to get it home and find out that the built-in video won't run X or something equally lame.
yeah baby, it's all good beeyotch!
Dammit, I had this idea four years ago (remember this Mr. White?). yeah
Now you can look like the dork you were with the calculator watch in sixth grade... woo hoo!
motorola and a few other manufacturers developing methane based electrochemical generators.
Cool, so when your batteries go dead you can stick it up your ass for a recharge?
amen ; )
Unfortunately I can't take credit for that statement, although I would respond to your last statement with "who's time is saved in the long run?".
I have used linux in production environments as a server os for DNS, HTTP, etc and I've been very happy with it, howerver the time it takes to deploy these solutions, compared to the same things on NT, especially in sophisticated configurations, is almost always double.
You could argue that this is a factor of my incompetence as a linux sysadmin and you may be correct, howerver I have been working with Linux as long as I have been working with NT and these deployment times have always been about the same (linux being twice as long as NT), so I would say that it is only fair to say that if I am a poor linux sysadmin and a strong NT administrator, this is a function of linux as a product and the learning curve required to attain an equal level of competence with NT.
The bottom line: either way you look at it, more time must be spent with linux, either learning it or deploying it, than Windows. This means that for customers of a consultant, you quickly make of the difference in inital cost of purchase with longer billable hours.
I'm not trying to say that linux is worthless or anything else, I'm just pushing for more realistic comparisons between the two products.
Does anyone know what groupware (calendar, etc) they are using for the linux part of this comparison? Does it have a windows client, or integrate with Outlook?
I know how much fun it is to support Exchange, but our users demand integrated groupware on the Windows platform, so it's hard to justify a solution that has to be run in a browser or worse, only runs on Linux.