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Citizen/IBM To Make A Linux Watch
backtick writes: " Yup, they're making the Watchpad.
'Besides telling time, the WatchPad comes with a calendar-scheduling application, a pager-like application for sending and receiving short messages, and a Bluetooth chip for wireless communication with notebooks, handheld computers and cell phones'" If they'll make a watch that runs Linux and takes pictures like Casio's camera watch, I might just switch back to a digital. Gerdts points out that the watch's battery life is either up to six hours, or only six hours, depending on how you look at it.
(sorry)
-- @rjamestaylor on Ello
you're frickin joking. I wizz more often than that.
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Now you can look like the dork you were with the calculator watch in sixth grade... woo hoo!
second society
- Does it have a picture of Tux on the watchface?
- Imagine a beowulf cluster of these.
- [Insert "If MS made watches joke here]
"Enough of this wretched, whining monkey life." -- Marcus Aurelius, _Meditations_, Book 9, 37
If this device only has a battery life of 6 (or fewer hours) *I don't want it*. I expect my watch to continue telling time for serveral months without replacing the battery. I don't want another charger to clutter up my house either. (Let's see palm cradle, laptop cord & docking station, three cell phone chargers...Too many already).
Hell, I sleep with my watch on. If it's on the charger, I can't tell time.
Hmmmmm, maybe i'm just in a bad mood, but the geek factor doesn't overweigh the stupidity of this.
mr.
It is only the interface that has always bothered me with smaller and smaller computers. Has there been significant progress into wearable screens like the cool one in the commercial with the day-trader kid?
Once we have the interface down, things can be as small as we want.
Mattcelt
I think this will be like the Newton. Nice idea, but technology not where it should be yet.
More like a wrist mounted PDA.
It looks like a PDA with a wriststrap. Besides, something that big on my wrist would probably get annoying after a while.
I'll stick to a PDA or pocket PC.
First, what's the point of a watch whose battery life is measured in hours, as opposed to months? It's nice as a concept toy, I guess.
Second, the fully loaded digital watch was all the rage back in the 80s (you kids may not remember that decade very clearly, so I'll let you know that those watches covered a substantial part of your wrist and then some and if you had the muscles to wear them for long you could probably get tennis arm...). It died out pretty quickly then, partly due to their weight, but also because it really isn't very convenient to handle lots of buttons or operations when 1 hand is incapacitated (the one the watch is on) and the other is busy activating the device....
- How long until someone roots your wrist?
You should have used the DOD Linux version. Of course, the watchband is green then. Bastille Linux - maybe the Swiss Army Linux Watch will have that.
- Does it have a picture of Tux on the watchface?
Yes, which you would have seen if you had followed the main story link.
- Imagine a beowulf cluster of these.
Probably find one at Times Square - look for the guy with the raincoat.
- [Insert "If MS made watches joke here]
Then they would run backwards at times, you would have to pay more money each year for the same watch with the bug fixes, and sometimes it would just stop and you'd have to replace the battery to start it again.
--- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
Please don't let a few dumb people taint your view of slashdot. I don't intent to let a few dumb moslems taint my view of entire religion.
The battery life seems rather ridiculous. Who would want to wear a watch that can't make it through an entire day at work? Besides, sounds to gimicky and gadget packed to be useful for anyone who isn't an ubergeek.
Scheduling, ability to communicate with other devices-big plus
Six hour battery life-big minus
This watch has a big potential, as the technology matures and the battery life improves.
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2. "Faggot" is a derogatory term. Also, homophobia is not to be tolerated.
3. Boobies
I might just switch back to a digital.
Timothy doesn't use a digital watch? Why??
I couldn't live w/o the handy countdown timer
(for muting ads on radio and knowing when to turn it back up. In what I listen to the break for ads are always exactly 4 minutes long) or the stopwatch for benchmarking stuff.
try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
I'll keep my Rolex and enjoy a considerable amount of more female attention while you are showing your little toy off to all the other nerdboys.
I imagine this will match your Linux t-shirt and Apple bumper sticker well.
--
$ chown -R us:us yourbase
get over it. I stink like milk, and my ancestors were all drunks. Its a stereotype, but it's true. Chew on a rock.
Most people I've met can't even use most of the features on their 'sporty' new watch, such as the calendar, timer, or otherwise. What makes the creator of this watch thing people are going to be able to use Linux with it? "I just want to know what time it is, damn it! I don't want to compile anything!"
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
Linux Devices has the prototype of this watch on their cool embedded linux devices list.
You can check out the link here..
**Karma Killing Whine Alert**
BTW: I reported on this three days ago, and the article was rejected.
**End of Karma Killing Whine Alert**
The Dopester
"Yes, I'm a Karma Whore, but I'm doing it to pay my way through school."
IBM states that the 6 hours are a product of optimizing the underlying OS. They also say that they target day-long battery life by further research.
Perhaps one of those kinetic powersources in some of todays watches could further prolong battery life. I think slashdot carried a story about those while back, but a quick search didn't turn anything up.
-- The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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This
I would hope so.
That kind of battery life I would expect from another OS.
Sadly, the IBM page link is ead:
dead link -> http://www.research.ibm.com/MobileComputing/WatchP ad.html
But there is some info in this earlier Infoworld article:
Nice technology!"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
Just what I always wanted! A Jane Fonda wrist weight that could also tell the time!
and e-mail, quake, GCC...
But does it show the time ???
What ? Me, worry ?
Beats hell out of a barcode tattoo.
"Slashdot is about legos and staplers." -Cmdr. Taco
I guess this is cool but I would like mine to display *only* #uptime
D~y
Cheers to IBM for pusing forward! Here's to the next few years!
If I can't see it in Lynx I'm not interested.
Don't fret the short battery life, folks. Any self-respecting geek is just going to strap an APC power supply to his ass and snake cabling down his shirtsleeve to run this.
when a "Kick Me" sign is just too subtle.
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
a pager-like application for sending and receiving short messages
I can't believe they only have three buttons on the thing and expect text to be entered. I thought for sure they would have something like the timex watches that has a ring that can easily be rotated to make selections or set the time, using only just one hand. When everyone is born with a stylus instead of an index finger, we'll talk about that option of a touch screen on this tiny thing. Most of the (older)people I work with have an extremely hard time using a regular PDA, you can forget about these things ever being more than a prototype or neat toy.
"Get them before they get....
The pros:
So, um, who would buy this, seriously?
- A.P.
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Tired of those long, tedious 8-hour days at work? Introducing the 6-hour watch! Leave work early!
Not since Marie-Antoinette played milkmaid has looking simple and honest been so fake and complicated.
Maybe these guys can get with Applied Digital to make the watch powered by a body heat battery.
YHBT. Hand.
We are implementing the technology to equip and call Dick Tracy.
"It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
I have a hard enough time with my watch that can recieve pages and the battery dies every 3 months. How am I supposed to add PDA functions to my wrist and use them effefectively and remember to recharge. I will stick with my watch (timex internet messenger) and my visor deluxe.
The real issues will be what features can be supported in a device the size of (a presumably largish) wristwatch.
This may be the PDA equivalent of the dancing bear. It's not that it dances well that's amazing. What's amazing is that it can dance at all.
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Is it me, or is Linux everywhere these days?
I imaging in a few years:"Just a second, I'm downloading new drivers for my Car" will be a common phrease, and mechanics are now reduced to recompiling the kernel.
Linus then states that the brakes WILL be fixed in the next release.
Mvh:
- Knut S.
Can you make one that's self-rewinding?
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
I know that citizen watches use Eco-Drive technology...
From Citizenwatch.com ---
Citizen Eco-Drive watches use the simplest, yet most technically advanced power generating and storage system in the Watch Manufacturing Industry. A Solar Cell and a rechargeable battery are the power provider for these Quartz Watches. Eco-Drive's ability to use light from any source to generate electrical power means that the supply is limitless and free. The absence of any added complex power generating machinery that would require additional upkeep is another big advantage. ---
Including this type of technology might help to extend battery life. Recharge while in use during the day, drawing on the 6hr life at night.
OR--- Some type of kinetic energy transfer. Will add to the bulk, but this is in Dev as it is.
Just a thought---
I am me...I think
But this has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
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--- The reclining dragon deeply fears the blue pool's clarity.
Seriously though, I think this would be awesome if they could get the battery life up. If it was ~24 hours that'd be fine, I could recharge it every nite. But 6 is just inconveinent. Unless of course that 6 hours of DOING things, it can act as nothing more than a watch for maybe 48 hours straight. That'd be good.
IDEA: Maybe we could get GPS built in and use that as an Etch-A-Sketch! I'd look weird walking around staring at my watch to see if I'd made a good smiley face yet though ;)
Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
We were already down to 3! (Less if you used ELKS, I believe.) How much further did IBM take it?
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
1. 6 hour battery life? Come on!!! A Palm will run for a month on a pair of AAA's. Even if battery is bumped up to 24 hours, still not real convenient. Hate to have to dock my watch everynight for a recharge. And what if I travel? Yet another thing to carry along to charge batteries (cell, laptop, shaver, watch, HOLY DC ADAPTERS BATMAN!)
2. Privacy! Yes, it's damn convenient to have your watch act as your EZ-Pass when you go through a toll gate (either highway or public transportation), but the privacy types will be all up in arms over this (If 'they' can track you at Grand Central, they can track you ANYWHERE!!!).
Just my $0.02 worth!
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Palms/2547/Bas ic_Humor.html
They had some demo watches out at a show here in NZ about six months ago. The dude who was a key guy in the development team also came (from Japan). Very cool. Especially the number of things he could do with it. hmm. sounds dodgy.
:)
Well, for instance, he was doing a slide presentation with it (remotely if i recall correctly).
Anyhow, what struck me at the time was that it would be very cool to have a watch with a firewall
Nevrar
Hmmm, IBM predicts in about a year that they'll have battery life up to a whole day. A short battery life kinda ruins the point of a Calendar program, yes?
Today: Okay watch, I gotta job interview tomorrow evening at 6:30 PM.
Day-after-tomorrow: "Sorry I didn't come, sir. My watch battery went dead!" == Lamest excuse ever.
Hopefully advances in mini-fuel cells and the like will be able to push battery life to at least a week, if not a month.
Other things I wonder about
What kind of input device does this use? I'm assuming that you would not be able to directly input data, but that this would work in tandem with a Palm, Visor, one of those PDA/Cell phone concoctions, or maybe a home/office computer.
If that's true, then all the people with Palm, Visors, or PDA/Cell phones would just use those for most tasks. The only people who would buy these watches are those who have a computer at home but don't own another PDA.
They COULD figure out a way to input data into the watch, but this probably means some sort of attachment to the watch (like one of those nifty foldable Palm Keyboards) but then why not just get a PDA in the first place?
Anyone who's not getting excited about this has no imagination. Don't think of it as a PDA -- think of it as the first fully programmable watch! How many of you have seen the Casio filmwatches with little animations on them? As an animator I've always wanted to be able to program my own. Add bluetooth to the equation -- a hobbyist's dream. And a 1 GB Microdrive? ... It sounds wonderful.
Yes it will be cumbersome to wear. But this is a step in the right direction for a toy that is long overdue in my opinion. Now it needs a motion sensor and digital camera...
People looking for serious tools like PDAs should look elsewhere.... in the meantime, I'll be writing the code for an animated avatar who tells me the time, waves at me when I have an email, and gets jostled when I move my wrist quickly (to be implemented when that motion sensor gets included). Insert Alvin and the Chipmunks Christmas song... here.
The wrist should be where the PalmOS goes to. Shrink the screen to 1/4 of what it is now keeping the same resolution with Icons etc. scaled up maybe 4x.
Who needs a PocketPC when all the palm apps run on your wrist?
160x160 square LCD would make a nice analog watch screen saver.
but I'm having a hard time seeing the true market appeal of this. I mean, we already have access to Linux PDAs that do a LOT of useful things, and a notebook PC loaded with Linux is even better.
A nifty concept all right, but I stack it up there along with the earlier story about the uber-cellphone. Cool? Yes. Would I buy one (or anybody I know for that matter)? No.
Sometimes, just because something runs Linux doesn't mean it's a fantastic idea. On the other hand, I *do* love my PC
The OS it runs comes about 93rd between whether it plays the Star Spangled banner and it's ability to float in orange juice.
Manufacturers who tout Linux as a PDA's main feature or expect the open source community to fix their crappy software may as well give up before they start. Geeks might care about such stuff but no one else does. Get the other stuff right and the fact it runs Linux is just icing on the cake.
Hopefully, the watch will have no buttons in the final version and all functions will be controlled via wireless access.
Well, maybe a password reset button on the watch would be good.
why on earth I would need a multi-user operating system running on my wristwatch?
Why not have 2 batteries? 1 battery, an eco battery or something equivalently efficient, for thelcd screen for the watch part. Then a second battery that powers the cpu. That battery could be cycled on and off as needed for the pda part of the watch. There's some things you'd have to overcome, but I'd certainly investigate splitting the power out. 'Course, I don't work for IBM, so I could be full of it.
And then there's the bad geeks. The ones that give the rest of us a bad name. They don't bathe often enough, they wear thick glasses (when thin ones would do), they have pocket protectors, and they wear big honkin' Dick Tracy watches on their wrist.
Egads!
-S
--- What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
You wouldn't need to 'switch to digital'... as far as I know, one of the only applications they have on the watch is Xclock in analog mode.
If IBM has a hand in this, why not rig this thing up with ViaVoice? Imagine the possibilities!
Me: KITT! Get me outta here!
KITT: Yes Michael *wooh-wooh*.
KITT Turbo-boosts into room and slides up beside me.
Me: Thanks buddy.
This watch will never encounter any traces of melanin on any wrist it ever touches.
is basically a solar panel on the watch face. I don't think light will go through a lit LCD display so that may not work. However, your kinetic energy transfer, a la the Seiko Kinetic, could work.
A PDA, even if it comes with a wrist strap, consumes vastly more power than an actual wristwatch.
I assume the automatic-recharging watches you're talking about are the type that harvest kinetic energy as you go about your daily routine. You'd have to move this Linux watch around one hell of a lot to recharge it using that model.
Speaking of Deja Vu, haven't I seen this before??
Slow news day today, I guess...
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
Like... how much memory is in there? :)
And I guess another important issue will be how hackable it will be?
If you have the source, you have the whole world...
Even two hours of batter life doesn't seem that bad to me. I'm not always looking at my watch or using an application on my Visor, so why should the Linux watch be on all the time? I would lift up my wrist and press the button, and it's on. It could be like a dual purpose flashlight switch, which can either be on only when it is pressed, or flipped on by sliding it.
LS
There is a fine line between being a cultivated citizen and being someone else's crop. - A. J. Patrick Liszkie
I was under the impression that "geeks" have never failed to embrace things just because they're stupid. Look at the inventory of ThinkGeek. Don't even get me started on Star Trek, that piece of third-rate, communist sci-fi which has become a cornerstone of geek "culture".
Sadly, history shows that this Linus-powered wristwatch will indeed have an audience, no matter how ridiculous a concept it is.
A smart watch has been a technological dream since the days when Dick Tracy battled Pruneface in the Great Depression
Great. Now we have something to battle Ballmer with during the tech slump.
[NOT]
try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
Can you make one that's self-rewinding?
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I can just picture the next time you go to a bar. You'll be able to tell all the Linux Geeks - they'll be the ones shaking their wrists all the time
--- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
from linux today, as usual.
I have vague notions flying around in my head for an advertising campaign for this baby involving the rabbit from Alice in Wonderland and the "I'm late! I'm late!" sequence. Anybody else wanna run with it?
Does anyone know how to get the night vision sniper rifle in RTCW Test?
I wonder if WINE will run on that watch? Should, considering it's a Linux box (box?). Hey, that means I can now play Starcraft at school! It has a battery life greater than that of most laptops, which is a definite plus. Of course, laptops aren't on 24/7.... I also can't quite see this freak of modern engineering being a Half-Life server.
It'll be a definite pisser if the watch's data is stored in volatile memory. It's almost certain the owner will forget to put it in the charger.
Must be one of the low end Rolexes. I was looking at a Breitling at the store a couple of months ago at it ran $10K. (about 9.75K too much for my wallet!)
The only Rolex I have personally ever handled was diamond encrusted and valued at approx. $250K. I know, that was a custom job, but I still can't imaging wearing the value of my house on my wrist!
McFly777
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"What do people mean when they say the computer went down on them?" -Marilyn Pittman
It's now:
GNU/Citizen and GNU/IBM to make a GNU/Linux GNU/Watch
m00.
It seems unfair to have so many negitive posts about this. The ./ posting for the original IBM Linux wristwatch was full of fervent assertions that the poster would buy one like a shot if IBM could just be persuaded to turn it into a product.
Well, now the guys at IBM have done there bit, possibly in part because of that ./ feedback, and they probably had to work hard to do so as it's not easy to get a product promoted from lab toy to product over at Big Blue.) So if you were one of posters who encouraged them by saying you'd buy one then maybe it's time to consider making good on your promise instead of whining about details of the design.
Having said that - and in direct contravention of the previous sentence - I'm assuming that they'll have the battery life up to something usable by the time it ships. (Say 24 hours or better along with a fast-charge cradle)
until movado releases a linux powered classic museum watch, I'll keep my old fashioned one ;-)
It was hot and steamy as we arrived at the airport in Bris-
bane for the long journey home to Boston. This was the end of a
month-long campervan vacation in Australia, and I, for one, was
overjoyed to be heading back to some normalcy. For an entire
month my wife Anne (I call her "the queen") had avoided sex in
the campervan, or anywhere else for that matter, since "the
children are nearby." - The irony of her way of thinking will be
evident shortly.
Actually, she is not very interested in sex anytime, since
she was taught by her mother that sex was "dirty." The only time
she ever saw her parents making love, they were fully clothed
(hike up the skirt, dear - I'll just quickly unzip.) Sometimes I
wonder how we ever ended up with three children; one is grown and
on her own, the two boys (Ralph, 17 and Trevor, 14) were with us
on holiday. Because I travel regularly, I have opportunity for
other sexual outlets during the year, but four plus weeks within
close quarters with a demanding uptight woman does not give you
much opportunity to develop alternatives.
I had some first class upgrade coupons, but at check-in time
was told there was only one seat available. Anne immediately
volunteered because of her "potential for a bad back," and was
seated in 3A. The boys and I were given 21K/L and 22L. This was
aisle and window seating in the 2-5-2 configuration, and the last
two rows in the second section. I took the single seat, and let
Ralph and Trevor sit together for the first ten-hour segment of
the flight.
An attractive woman dressed in a loose sweater and very tight
blue jeans took the seat next to me. I could see that Ralph was
uncomfortable and maybe even a little jealous, since he kept
turning around to talk to me, but she was too old (29) to be
interested in him. She introduced herself as Christine, "You can
call me Chrissy." She was about five foot eight, light brown
(almost blond) long hair, a nice ass - firm and high, breasts
with an impact even through her shapeless sweater, and obviously
in good physical condition.
Chrissy was headed for Miami to pick up her belongings from a
recent divorce; she and her husband had been working together on
private yachts for eight years, and he had developed a cocaine
habit. When he would not seek help to end his drug addiction,
and more immediately after a close call with customs in Australia
last year, she decided then and there to split from him, filed
for divorce, stayed in Brisbane, and had just been notified the
divorce was final. In the meantime, she had met another guy she
wanted to stay with, and was going to Miami to settle up the
property and return to her new lover. This I discovered during
dinner conversation and over a few shared glasses of wine.
Looking into my eyes, she confided she was "now free and ready
for some excitement."
The movie started, the flight attendants went around the
cabin to lower all the shades, and Chrissy said, "I'd rather
talk, if it's OK with you; this movie is terrible." I had also
seen the movie and agreed. We spent the next two hours getting
to know each other better. Chrissy at one point said, "You have
terrific eyes, I get really turned on by eyes." We talked about
the kids, and when she asked if I was married and learned about
Anne in the front cabin, she thought it displayed selfish behav-
ior and then never mentioned my marital status again.
By now, the boys had fallen asleep, and just before the end
of the movie, Chrissy excused herself for a few minutes, reached
into the overhead bin for her carry-on (stretched long enough to
get my mind focused on her hips and legs in those wonderful tight
jeans,) and headed to the lavatory in the back. When she re-
turned, she was wearing loose-fitting sweatpants, and when she
asked if I minded if she lifted the arm dividing the seats, I
replied "Of course not!" By now I had an idea of what she had in
mind, because she had confided during the movie that one of her
greatest turn-ons was the risk of discovery while having sex.
"My husband was not a great lover, but in the close confines of
the boat it was always exciting to fuck without anyone nearby
knowing about it; I had more orgasms from fucking near other
people than from the sex act itself." As she shared this with
me, she was already visibly breathing more quickly.
Chrissy and I arranged the blankets over both of us, now no
longer separated, and curled up like spoons in the otherwise
crowded seats. I started to give her a back rub, slowly working
over her muscles by now cramped from the first five hours of the
flight. She purred quietly, and after a while squirmed her
shapely ass on the seat, pushing it back into my
growing erection. With both hands I reached around under her
loose sweater, and fondled her globes, her nipples growing firmer
under my gentle stroking.
Chrissy reached back and with one hand released my belt, then
unbuckled and unbuttoned my pants. I whispered in her ear, "How
do you do that? I can't even do that with one hand, and they're
my pants."
She laughed, and said, "Years of practice; don't worry, it
gets better." My hard-on sprang out of my tight bikini briefs as
she pulled the waistband forward, and she whispered, "I'm glad
you're not wearing boxer shorts, I can't stand them."
Chrissy began to stroke my cock, now slightly oozing with its
own lubrication. She used the pre-come to help rotate her fin-
gers gently around the head, stroking it with ever firmer pres-
sure. I withdrew my hands from under her sweater to push my
pants down further, allowing me to slip the briefs down below my
swollen balls, which she now explored with her questing hand.
Lubricating her fingers even more with her saliva, she alternate-
ly rubbed my balls and massaged the head of my dick.
My hands were now free, and I hungrily reached forward for
her erect nipples, shortly afterward sliding my right hand down
her belly and slipping it under the waistband of her sweatpants.
She was wearing no panties underneath, and the inside of the
cotton sweats was already wet with her juices. As I stroked her
mound, her lubrication welcomed my fingers into her warm wet
cunt. Rubbing the juices on my fingers, I began to circle her
clitoris and then used my fingers to stroke in and out of her
pussy while my thumb pushed against her swollen clit. She was
breathing harder now, and could not stop moving her ass around on
the seat, first bucking her soaking cunt against my right hand,
then pushing her ass back against my cock through the sweatpants.
Just then, the stewardess came down the aisle, paused notice-
ably as she came up to our row, glared at me (me? why me? there
are two of us here, you know!), almost said something, then
apparently decided that since we were bothering nobody else, she
would keep moving. Thank God! While we were both close to fully
clothed at that time, there was little chance she could do any-
thing legally disastrous, but who needs the embarrassment, or the
hassle from the kids for that matter.
As the stewardess left, Chrissy whispered. "She knows exact-
ly what we are doing, and she's jealous! Now I want to have your
prick inside me. I'll keep quiet, but I need you to fuck me
now." With this, she lifted her ass off the seat and slid her
sweats down below her knees, then separated her legs slightly and
moved back so I could slide into her dripping pussy from behind.
I moved slowly in and out as she purred and pushed back onto my
cock quietly so we would not wake our neighbors.
At the same time, I reached back around to stroke her clito-
ris easily but steadily. The appearance of the stewardess had
startled me, and most of the urgency for release that had built
up from her stroking my hard-on had subsided, so it was a nice,
long, easy fuck, punctuated by her spasming in orgasm three times
before my cock pressure built up to the point of no return. I
came with the most excruciating pleasure I had felt in my life
(actually for the last month, but you know how easy it is to lose
perspective at the moment.) I felt like I unleashed at least a
pint of come into her already dripping cunt. I sighed, and
whispered' "Chrissy, it must have been heaven that sent you to
this seat. You don't know how much I needed that."
She then turned around in the seat to sit normally, and
kissed me for the first time. "I needed it just as much as you
did; you're a terrific fuck, but on top of that it's the danger
that makes me come so much. Thanks for being here, I dreamed
that I'd be fucked silly on this trip. As we kissed, I told her
about my favorite turn-on. "What I like best is eating pussy,
but there is no room here for that. Would you like to go to the
back of the plane with me?"
"What do you mean? In the lavatory?" she asked.
"Yes. If we are reasonably cautious we can get in there
without causing an uproar," I replied.
"I've never done that before," Chrissy explained.
"There's a first time for everything," I said, and moved to
pull up my pants and buckle my belt. She thought about it for a
minute, and then said, "why not, let's try it!" She drew up the
sweatpants and tied the drawstring (I hadn't noticed there was
one before - must not have been tied.) Then she got up and
headed for the back of the plane, with me following directly
behind.
She entered the first lavatory, which was vacant (good thing
the flight was long, and everybody was still asleep.) I slipped
right in behind her before the flight attendants noticed we were
even there. As I closed the door, she turned and we started to
kiss passionately. She broke for a quick query, "how do you do
anything in this little space?" As I untied the drawstring on
her sweatpants, I said, "Just lift up and sit on the sink, and
let me taste your cunt."
Chrissy lifted, spread her legs, and I could see her cunt
lips were still swollen from her last orgasm. I gently tongued
her outer lips, occasionally swiveling my head to nip the insides
of her thighs, but always returning to circle her clit, and as it
swelled up, suck on it gently. There was no end to the wetness;
her own lubrication, supplemented by the enormous load of come I
had left in her pussy, dripped down both sides of my chin onto
the stainless steel sink surface and trailed down her thighs.
After tonguing her into a few more orgasms, I realized how
hard I was getting again, and finally stood up, sliding her ass
slightly off the surface, and drove my cock into her again while
we exchanged extremely wet but tasty kisses, flavored by both of
our juices. Such a short time after the last fuck, and she was
sooo wet; this time it lasted at least twenty minutes, both of us
sighing and savoring the overwhelming sensations coursing through
our bodies. Finally, after a slow buildup that I never wanted to
end, I came again, not as much this time, but she sensed it and
started bucking hard just at the same moment. The pleasure was
so intense it was almost painful.
The light came on to return to the cabin, and after a few
minutes we were able to adjust ourselves to some degree of
presentability to return to our seats. Just as we opened the
door, the same stewardess was looking right into my eyes. She
said angrily, "Please return to your seats and stay there. We
have some turbulence and the captain has turned on the seat
belt sign." I couldn't help but think that maybe we were the
cause of the turbulence, but then that's just my imagination
running away with me again.
As we settled in to the seats, Chrissy pushed the seat divid-
er down, saying, "I think everyone is waking up, let's not embar-
rass your boys." The breakfast service was beginning, the cabin
lights were turned on, and we were again two strangers who hap-
pened to be sitting next to each other on the plane. The secret
of our mile-high lovemaking was secure.
We exchanged addresses, but with her in Brisbane and me in
Boston it's not likely we'll ever meet again. Both of us prom-
ised to use caution in contacting each other should the opportu-
nity arise, so our current SO would not be disturbed, but also
promised to get together if possible again.
I said goodbye to Chrissy at the seat, and went forward with
the unsuspecting boys to deplane.
As we got to the end of the ramp in the terminal, I asked
Anne, "How was your flight?"
"Great," she replied, "one of the most relaxing ever."
"Me too!"
hey, there's a fact sheet about the Citizen/IBM WatchPad prototype over at linuxdevices.com -- the device has a 32-bit CPU (not specified), 8MB DRAM and 16MB flash, and uses Linux kernel version 2.4 and Microwindows for the GUI.
My top things:
scientific calculator: (for figuring the tip)
remote control (for TV and X10 modules)
IrDa link to PC for Time syncing to Atomic Time
List of important phone numbers/appointments
make Linux, not Microsoft. sin(beast) = -0.809016994374947424102293417182819
A true story that really happend to me.
I had this really good friend named Dave who also had a friend
named Rusty. Well, Rusty had this really knockout girlfriend named
Candy. Dave is a real bullshitter and I didn't believe half of the
wild stories he told, so I just ignored his comments about how wild
Candy got when she got drunk. He told me how Rusty was the type of
guy that only wanted it about once or twice a week and Candy wanted it
once or twice an hour. Since she was a "good little girl" she
couldn't really cheat on Rusty, but if you got her drunk, she would do
anything and not feel guilty about it.
One day Dave told me he was going to prove to me how wild Candy
really was. He had arranged for us to meet her at the local Pizza Hut
for pizza and beer. When she met us I noticed that the dress she was
wearing was really unusual in that it was made almost exactly like a
raincoat, buttons down the front with a belt around the middle. I
also noticed a lot of cleavage and her shapely claves encased in
fishnet stockings.
We sat down and ordered our pizza and two pitchers of beer. When
the beer arrived, Candy said that she didn't want to drink any because
she didn't like the taste. Well, after our pizza arrived Candy gave
in and poured herself a glass of beer. When we were done with the
pizza, we were also done with the beer and Candy had only had one. We
soon ordered two more pitchers and convinced Candy that the only way
for her to drink with us was to "chug" each glass so she wouldn't
taste it so much. After "chugging" about six or seven glasses of
beer, Candy was being as sweet as her name. She had unbuttoned two of
the lower buttons on her dress so that she could mover her legs enough
to play footsie under the table with me. As we were leaving, Dave was
getting in the driver's side of the car and I was waiting for him to
unlock the passenger door when Candy called out to me. She was
standing in the center of the parking lot and when I turned she opened
up her dress and showed me a braless cutout corsett with garters and
stockings. Her nipples were about the size of a quarter and looked
like Hershey's Kisses in the cool evening air. Her bush was a light
strawberry blonde that looked like the hair was very thin or recently
trimmed. About then I realized that we were in the middle of a city
with about 100,000 people in it and it was still daylight at 8 P.M.
Dave unlocked the door and we got into the car. Nothing else happened
that night, but Candy and I became drinking buddies for several
months.
One evening about 4 months later Candy called me and invited me
and my bottle of rum over to her apartment for margaritas. I quickly
showered, dressed, hit the liquor store and was at her apartment in
about 20 minutes. When I got there I thought something was up because
Rusty was working night shift and Candy's roommate was out for the
rest of the night with her new beau. Candy made the mistake of
letting me make the margaritas and I loaded about a cup of rum into
each one of the drinks. After our third round Candy was feeling real
loose.
Our casual conversation suddenly turned sexy when candy asked if
I had liked her lingere that night at Pizza Hut. I said that I loved
lingere but had trouble finding women who were into it as much as I
was. When Candy heard that I loved lingere she offered to give me a
fashion show of her lingere collection. I quickly agreed and she
disappeared into the bedroom to change.
The first outfit she came out in really knocked my socks off. It
was a basic white bra with frilly lace accross the top edge of the
cups. The lace was cut just low enough to expose the top half of each
perky brown nipple. She was wearing white garters that rode perfectly
across her slender, full hips with four long, lacy straps leading down
to her white stockings. The stockings were the sheer white kind that
sparkle in the light and she was moving around alot to produce the
best possible effect with the little light available. She was wearing
white lace panties that were no more that two triangles of cloth held
together by lace straps. The front panel was transparent enough that
I could see her light bush and a hint of pussy lips. She really knew
what she was doing because she had put her panites on over the garters
so she could take off her panties without removing the garters.
The fashion show didn't get any further then because Candy sat
down next to me and started necking. Being fully clothed and in the
arms of this green-eyed, red-haired beauty while she was only clad in
her underwear was more than I could stand. I got up and started to
undress when Candy said "Let me do that for you." Candy undresses me
but made it a point not to touch me. She laid back on the couch and
handed me a vibrator that had magically appeared in her hand. "Do me
with this," she said. I took the vibrator from her and turned it on,
adjusting the speed to a very slow, humming speed. I started out on
her nipples and when they got good and hard I pushed the cups of her
bra down to expose them to my tongue. With one nipple in my mouth and
my left hand on the other, my right hand moved the vibrator around her
crotch and upper legs.
After about five minutes of playing this way I started to move
the vibrator into her cunt. I slowly tickled the outer lips of her
pussy with the tip of the vibrator and watched as her pussy unfolded
like a lovely flower. The vibrator was already slick with her pussy
juices that were leaking out of her like a lake draining so I pushed
it slowly up into her pussy. I kept pushing until all eight vibrating
inches were burried in her cunt. We moved into a sixty-nine position
so she could suck my cock and I could lick on her clit while I diddled
her with the vibrator.
I finally removed the vibrator from her pussy and decided to get
down to some serious cunt lapping. I shoved two fingers of my left
hand up into her pussy and started to dig around until I found the
magic spot. Once I had done this I sucked her clit into my mouth and
pushed up on the spot. Candy started squealing and bucking like she
was being electricuted and pussy juice coated my face and my arm down
to the elbow. Suddenly Candy stopped thrashing about and just lay
there breathing rapidly and deeply. Without any warning at all Candy
pissed all over the couch but didn't seem to notice or to wake up.
After about five minutes Candy woke up and was really embarassed about
peeing on the couch. Apparently she was totally knocked out by the
series of multiple orgasms. When she got her composure back she said,
"You can do anything you like."
When I heard this I was ecstatic. I first shoved my hard dick, I
still hadn't come yet, up her juicy cunt and then shoved a finger up
her asshole. After ten minutes of slow fucking and several orgasms by
Candy I lifted her legs over my shoulders. From this position I
withdrew my cock in a long slow stroke that made a popping sound when
it finally came out. Candy whimpered for me to put it back in her
when I pulled out but I had other ideas. I put my cunt juice
slickened dick right up to her anus and began to push. Candy was
obviously no stranger to anal sex because she relaxed and shoved right
back until my balls hit her ass. Then she started bucking and I
started pushing. This time the strokes were long, hard, and fast.
Candy grabbed the vibrator off the floor and pushed it into her cunt
with such savage force that I thought that she might hurt herself.
The vibrations were too much for Candy and she came twice real close
together then I was ready to come. Candy stopped me and told me to
come in her mouth so I withdrew my dick and, with her legs around my
thighs, shoved it into her mouth. With Candy sucking on the head of
my dick, one hand playing with my balls, and one finger of her other
hand up my asshole I came what seemed like gallons. Candy drank it
all down like a pro and then complimented me on my lovemaking.
I saw Candy regularly and more kinkily for several more months
and then she finally made a commitment to be true to Rusty and as far
as I know she hasn't broken it. She always knows that if she wants
anything in the way of sex she can call me.
Gerdts points out that the watch's battery life is either up to six hours, or only six hours, depending on how you look at it.
So what, if I look at it longingly then the battery will last 6 hours, but if I give it a stern frowning look then it will only last for four? What gives?When I want your opinion I will beat it out of you.
...all I wanted was the time!
Login: user
Password:
Linux Watch 2.4.11.
watch~$ date
Thu Oct 11 17:40:32 EDT 2001
watch~$ exit
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Sorry, I don't have the physics/ee chops to seriously think about this, but couldn't you combine this watch with the kinetic battery seen in some watches, so maybe you can extend the life?
Or am I missing something?
ceci n'est pas un sig.
If it was a Citizen-Micro$oft joint venture, then the watch would need to be 'activated' with your credit card number. Thereafter, each time you look at the time, or check the alarm, it would keep a tally, and debit your credit card monthly. Also, every two years, it would forcibly download new software, and debit your credit card for more than the original price of the watch.
-- In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was UNSIGNED, and the main(){} was without form and void...
Just replace your battery every 6 hours and count the old ones in your pocket.
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Matsucom has been making a similar watch -- the "onhand" for some time now. Technologically, the ibm watch does a whole lot more, but if all you want is the ability to run your own programs on your wrist, it'll do.
Most important, the onhandpc has a free SDK. The specs: It has a 16-bit CPU (V20ish I think), running a dos look-alike. It has 128KB RAM, 512KB ROM, and 2MB FLASH. The display isn't nearly as nice as IBM's prototype OLED: 102x64 backlit STN LCD. But it does have IR and wired serial ports. The battery life is rated at 3 months (assuming display one hour per day). The big thing missing is the bluetooth. (Well, that and linux).
The nice part: Price = $300. But still (in my opinion) a toy. For more info, here's a nice review (from late '99).
HIV Crosses Species Barrier... into Muppets
So will this be the first (non-NTS) computer with a decent TOD clock, or just the world's most inaccurate watch?
That watch looks like it was made by IBM. An RS/6000 is a nice looking box, but it makes an ugly wristwatch! I'd much rather that my watches were designed by Omega.
If tits were wings it'd be flying around.
If you time it right your battery will die during happy hour. Cheap drinks for an eternity!
Would certainly help with the battery life eh?
Do not taunt Happy-Fun Ball
I couldn't be bothered with half the features.
On the other hand, it would be nice to port xntpd to this puppy. Combined with bluetooth and a nearby time source once in a while.... beauty !
What version of KDE will it run?
Why is that flamebait? He's telling the truth.
that can display the time since the epoch.
Handing these things off to the grandkids won't be too practical after 2037.
hey if you wanna buy fry-mumia.com, i own it!
Look at it this way. In college I had three primary portable devices. The first was a Tandy 200, which would run a couple of days of on a set of batteries. The second was a Tandy calculator programmable in basic with mass storage and a printer, with a battery life of maybe a month. The third was an HP calculator, the clamshell type, with a lifetime of a few months.
By those standards, modern portable devices are unacceptable. Portable computers that can't even last through lunch time. Palm Pilots that can't last the week. Don't even get me started on MP3 players that have about half the lifetime as my old cassette deck.
But we still buy these products, even if they are not as good as the old reliable things we grew up with. The new things, are, at the end of the day, good enough, and much more interesting.
Embraces the standard 24 hour format but then extends it to a MS 27 hour day; cannot be set except by connecting to MS time server
My next sig will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush
I can't wait for:
"To counter claims of their Linux wristwatch having only limited usefulness because of a 6 hour battery life, IBM today announced the shipping of a mains adapter for their wrist watch..."
Then they can do an IR mobility kit so you can access your watch remotely using a "wrist mounted X11 server".
Xix.
"Everything is adjustable, provided you have the right tools"
Yes! What a great idea!
I can see it as not just a watch but an
Apache Server. . .
I can see it the size of a dime. I can see it
with a stackable interface so that we can
get 50 times the power of a single one
by having a roll of them like a roll of dimes. . .
I see it with a GPS and a small digital camera
strapped to a small balsa wood plane, radio
controlled, of course!
What a great product!
I love IBM.
In all honesty: My dad owns a LOT of their stock.
But I still love IBM.
As it's own FAQ points out.
I'm the stranger...posting to
Do you really think 90% of the people here use Linux? It's more like 10% Linux and 90% Windows. Since you didn't get the first half of your statement right, the second half is probably wrong too.
Next time King Azzhole, login for *all* your posts.
Since it has IR, you could send the video to a pair of video glasses and see it floating in space. And then for input you use your arm and finger and draw on the image in space, for instance inputting text that way.
And everyone looking at you waving your arm would think you were completely crazy.
Take it from someone who owned a Seiko Messagewatch which turned into useless tin: Make sure the wireless protocol is open. Make sure you won't get stuck if the S/P goes belly up.
Microsoft 'made' a watch.
Features:
1) you are supposed to use a flashing monitor to program the watch. - it doesn't work however. Like most Microsoft methods... you have to hold the watch perfectly still, and it only flashes on Windows 3.11 and 95, not NT.
2) The box the watch comes in says "Works with Windows", yet the paper licence says it it ony valid with 3.11 and 95. Not NT.
3) to actually program the watch reliabily, you have to buy the laptop interface. Why? Ever try holding your wrist as a special angle for 2 mins without movement?
4) No API is aviable to help you program the watch the way you want.
Summary, you can't program it because of the closed API, it doesn't work with later MS pograms-thus you need to upgrade, and the license doesn't agree with what is printed on the box.
If it was said on slashdot, it MUST be true!
You know.. this is something funny. I love digital.. I love computers, electronics.. all that.
But one thing I really love is my watch. I only wish it was wind-up instead of electric.
It's one of those Navy-Seals Luminox dive watches.. with the tritium gas-lights. Very tough, very robust.. glows in the dark for 25 years.. and it's analog.. jewels and everything.
Geez, what's next? The SaniPad, a Linux-powered tampon/personal organizer that monitors your menstrual blood flow and tells you when it's time for your next pill?
"Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
Live without a watch for a while, and you'll see how easily you find clocks most places. And when there isn't a clock, there's usually some sucker who plunked down some cash for a watch!
If M$ made watches would we need to restart them every hour?
Wanted : A Signature.
... there's a virus for the watch that displays 4:20 all the time...?
you could using your Bluetooth enables Ipaq to telnet/ ssh depending on what security you like
This must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
I always wanted a watch that reset itself to January 1, 1970.
OS/2 - because choice is a terrible thing to waste.
Chick: Hey hot stuff what time is it?
./'er: (shaking) uhh, the time is eleven o'kernel panic...
(chick leaves)
This new IBM watch is very geeky, but too bloated and finally useless. Not only because you have to load it every 6 hours, but also because it looks very large for a watch.
Nice and useful watches were the Timex Datalink series. They have a light sensor so that you can program them just by lifting them in the front of your monitor (data is transmitted through blinking lines) . And yes, it works on Linux with Watchlink .
Program? Yes, Timex Datalink watches can be programmed in assembly language. There are a lot of applications for it, ranging from games to utilities to do golf scoring, as well as new watch features (better chronographs, multiple repetitive alarms, etc) . Of course you can also fully customize alarm melodies, and synchronize your appointements with Outlook or Ical.
Plus these watches are cheap.
Ehm... were cheap. Timex doesn't sell these good'ol 150 and 150s datalink watches any more. But some local vendors still have stock, so if you can get one, go, go, go!
Not only this is a geek watch, but it's also an useful watch. And it looks like an ordinary watch on your wrist, not like a PDA.
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because my gf has the worst memory and forgets this shit all too often... dammit
From the article:
Hewlett-Packard is working on a similar effort with Swatch . In trials in Switzerland, wearers can pass through a train station turnstile while the watch charges their bank accounts for the cost of the ticket.
Hmm... does that mean I can walk through a train station while some 31337 h4x0r charges me for the cost of the train station?
In the spoon, there is no Soviet Russia!
This thing better be cheap because I always buy a new watch when the battery runs out.
--Ulrich
On no accounts allow a Vogon to read poetry at you
How about a Bluetooth keyboard? You'd look funny typing away on a keyboard with no visible monitor/PC/anything else, but you could be looking at your wrist and typing pretty easily. It would be cool if you had one folding keyboard that could be switched from one device to another so that you could type on your watch, PDA, cell phone, notebook, desktop or server. You could even have a Bluetooth mouse. Could solve the problem of multiple PCs using the same keyboard and mouse without having a switchbox OR cables.
Amazes me that they think anyone would use a watch with 6 hour battery life... I had one of the Timex pager watches, and I thought it was bad for only lasting two to three weeks on a battery... Made it 8 months before chunking it for a POW (plain old watch).
This is ridiculous, every single post has been obsessed with the short battery life. First 'mobile' phone anyone? My first phone I had to recharge every day, my latest Sony phone can go a week between recharges. Hopefully fuel cell technology will mean more like a month between charging. Different technologies are developed on parallel paths, and the point of this watch was not to refine battery technology. This will be done by a different group. Just imagine what it will be like when the two are combined.
Phillip.
Property for sale in Nice, France
WebLoserJoe
And start thinking submerged intelligence. The point won't be to sit staring at your watch all day, but for the watch to have information about things you want to happen and to interact with the environment on your behalf to make it happen.
Think, for example,industrial applications.
Connectivity- Bluetooth. Now I'll just connect it to my bluetooth-enabled PalmPilot to input data more efficiently, and when I get home I'll compile a new linux app for it on my bluetooth-enabled PC...
I happen to know a manufacturer of pesticide sprayers (the kind that are mounted on trucks) who want to put bluetooth on his equipment. The ideal scenario is this: a bluetooth enabled GPS, bluetooth enabled truckmounted pesticide sprayer. The day's mission is downloaded onto the watch when the driver signs in in the morning. As he drives the watch uses the mission profile to turn the sprayer off when he approaches no-spray zone (e.g. the house with the asthmatic kid or the field where the beekeeper has his hives). At the end of the day the watch upload the GPS and device telemetry to the tracking database. That way, when the beekeeper sues you, you can produce GPS maps. In fact, the manufacturer of the software could even build a cryptographic signature into records indicating that a particular command was issued and responded to at a given time, and this could be transmitted wirelessly to a national data warehouse for pesticide usage telemetry. Something like this is not only desirable for environmental reasons, but also now because of the concern that this equipment could be used to spread aerosolized biological warfare agents.
Bits and pieces of mission tracking software have been created for aircraft systems, but they do not integrate very well and are expensive. Distributing intelligence throughout the system using prebuilt components (e.g. bluetooth chips, system software components) gives designers an additional degree of freedom, with which they can improve overall usability and flexibilty. The fact that the major components of integration (the bluetooth chip, the network protocols) are prebuilt, off the shelf, you also get more intelligence for less money.
This kind of system also simplifies the process of writing control software. Instead of writing in assembly or C, the designer could use a stripped down Apache with perl CGI scripts. This would allow them, in a sense, to use commodity programmers as well as commodity hardware.
Sure, it's a brick strapped to your wrist, but crank Moore's law three or four more times and it will start to look a lot more like a normal watch with reasonable. What I'd like to see in a few years is one of these with some kind of biometric recognition built in, say thumbrint recognition. You could then, for example, keep all your medical records with you at all times (assuming the battery problem is fixed, as it is certain to be within ten years or so), and authorize their release to your doctor with a thumbpress.
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Good lord - GIVE ME THAT DISPLAY! 640 pixels in less than an inch? It's a 736-DPI organic LED!
Can you imagine a 24" display at that dot resolution? That'd be roughly 14,000 by 10,000 (using a 3:4 aspect) - or, roughly enough to see the famous 9k by 9k WTC satellite photo and still have plenty of space to code and surf.
I'll wait for the Apple iWatch in all its fruity colors thanks (make mine guava please.) I can be a geek in style.
1. Remove strap.
2. Attatch larger battery.
3. Place in shirt pocket.
Tiny is nice. Think of all the places you could fit it. Remote control by ssh? If this is really hackable it will be fun.
More is better. Mass production will surely drive prices down later. More toys!
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Why all these negative posts? Compared to a kick me sign in one, fuck off!
This is a great new toy and the OS makes all the difference. It's tiny embeded controler with a nice screen and, hopefully, a hackable OS. If IBM uses GCC for it, it will be just awsome. Why would anyone want to develop for non free alternatives when they have something like that sitting around to exploit? Propriatory $DK goes in the garbage.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
choose 'notepad' (or 'vi') and you can write directly onto the watch. That'd be cool.
I don't even want to begin imagining what a pain in the ass using vi would be with pen-input !!! ESC-w-q-!, by the time I'm finished making all the penstrokes to save my file the damn battery would already have run out. Of course, the battery would have run out just launching emacs, but still...
Here's something to think about concerning digital watches. If someone grows up only using a digital watch, will the phrase "quarter till five" or "half past seven" mean anything to them? Analog watches have the curious ablilty to allow you to visualize time as something that can be divided.
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"Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief."
Apparently, this is a project of IBM's Tokyo Research Lab (trl.ibm.com).
There is some info in english at www.trl.ibm.com/projects/ngm/index_e.htm and links to some hi-res pics at www.trl.ibm.com/projects/ngm/media/index.htm
Yeah but I bet it would take a lot of fast ram to drive a display that large.
The datalink was a great watch. I loved it when I got it. I never had a problem hold the watch to the monitor though. Put your elbow on the desk and you arm is steady. I did get the adaptor though to use with my laptop.
The closed API did suck. I would have loved to program my own wrist apps.
I just picked up a PC-Unite from Casio and it is pretty good so far. I like the fact that it syns up with the computer data. I stil lneed to get it to work with other applications then just the one it came with, but that doesn't look too hard.