why should idiots like you clog up the internet by buying domain names for christmas cards. I bet you irc with some rediculously long host like i.am.a.complete.fucking.idio.ot or post to alt.losers.i.have.no.life.so.i.like.to.waste.time. buying.domain.names.for.christmas.cards
ok.. lets say every user has a public_html folder in their home dir.
you want
1. for default files in their home dir to be read only by the user.
BUT
2. any file in public_html to be read and execute by world.
you want these permissions to apply TRANSPARENTLY. So whether if they put the files there from their shell, samba, ftp, appletalk, nfs WHATEVER - those files in public_html are available to the world.
I have been complaining/whinging/asking about the lack of fscking ACL's for over a year an a half. They are (IMHO) one the BIGGEST limitation of linux. If anybody has attempted to use linux for a large number of users, they soon find out that they need ACLs!! Yes, there are patches and such, and I have tried them - although they are very unreliable.
why do people like you have to waste bandwidth complaining about moderation?!?! I laugh that you even bother believing that slashdot has moderation. If you want moderation, come here. As for manners.. I have no respect for slashdot stories anymore, so i'll write like i damn well please thankyou.
you want a safe system, and a shell account? Let me tell you this.. NO system is safe if users have shell accounts. Would you trust your mail server if you knew the local kiddies had a shell on it?
Ok. I'm entering the fray quite late and nobody will pay attention to this post.. but it has to be said..
with AMD and Intel, this whole MHz race is bullshit. There is no *real* advancement in technology when all these guys are doing is tweaking these old technologies to run faster.
But its this "hype" about MHz, driven mostly by you stupid overclockers, that keep AMD and Intel locked in this MHz race that makes everyone lose.
I mean, go look at MIPS who actually give a hoot about decent design - their R12k 400MHz is twice as fast as a PIII 800MHz at seti! And go check out PPC's Altivec, which is pretty much MMX except 10 times better.
But of course, the rest of the world seems to neglect these achievements in computing, and think that more MHz == better. WRONG. Go have a look at SPEC and see the current trend which shows that even though intel and AMD are making their chips run at a higher MHz, the performance gains really aren't that much.
So, we have this whole overclocking and MHz frenzy, which is basically driven by a bunch of clueless kiddies who believe that making a 5 year old technology run at a fast clock rate is the be all and end all of chip fabrication.
CONFIDENTIAL: The information disclosed herein regarding the Flash Vos(TM) includes confidential, proprietary information of Flash Vos Inc. This document, and the contents thereof, may not be used, reproduced, transmitted, transferred to other documents, or disclosed to any person or entity, in whole or in part, without the prior express written consent of Flash Vos Inc. The Flash Vos(TM) is covered by a United States Pending Patent Application. All rights are reserved to Flash Vos Inc.
So... looks like even posting a link to the super secret site is violating their site copyright. Naughty! you are in big trouble now!!
According to this poll, 30% of readers spend most of their time in a windows environment.
And according to this poll, 73% of readers run more than one OS on their machine. I bet most of these people are dual booting windows.
Before everyone screams and yells "hurrah! haha M$ uses unix!", just sober up on these statistics. Microsoft may not be able to rid itself from UNIX, but many of us certainly can't rid ourselves of Windows!
The rootshell: (post contains quote from LA Times)
Computer experts are scurrying to counter what may be the most serious threat to computer security to crop up since the machines were invented.
A group of students at the University of California at Berkely figured out an extremely simple and undetectable way to crack a large number of computer systems and remove, change or destroy the information they contain. ...
[Note: notice the word "crack". At least they got it right back then!]
The script kiddie: (poster asking for the sploit) ... What's the straight scoop? What is this magic method? I would appreciate it if you would respond via "mail" instead of broadcasting it.
Remeber, irc.debian.org (open projects) #debian, and #mashpotato for support. And remember, before asking anything, '/msg apt install guide' !
Also, mark_, netsnipe, and raja have worked hard to bring you MashPotato (The Mobile Array of Support Helpers for Potato
), visit the website: http://www.linuxgiant.com/debian/
What's with all this crap about being soooo cautious about space exploration. Let's just keep sending stuff out there until we succeed in getting to the other planets. I don't care if people die trying - shove the next door neighbours dog in the damn things and see if they get there. Aim my microwave at Mars and launch the sucker. I'm sick of waiting for this so called "space program"... the best way to succeed is to learn from failure.
If the "space program" ran the aviation industry in the first half of this century we wouldn't have aeroplanes, we would be sitting on the tarmack too frightened of flying for fear of killing someone, or losing a buck.
By the time the space program ever gets anywhere, intelligent life will have evolved on another planet and they will have found US.
"The hall of fame was created in 1973 by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and the National Council of Intellectual Property" Attorneys"
Um. Three cheers for Steve, but surely we shouldn't condone "awards" by these guys - it's hardly credible seeming as its not peer reviewed. (Not to take any due reward from Steve - but I don't agree with championing an award given by the very people who STUNT technological development.)
I typically don't like SCO's strategies and positions, but it looks like this could be a good win-win for everyone. I think SCO has some good ideas here, as it looks like they are tackling some of Linux's shortfallings HEAD-ON.
Win-win #1
"Building the Linux clustering capacity to be in line with SCO's NonStop Clusters technology" Linux redundancy is currently limited to a few nodes - SCO claim they will increase this to 12. This will help Linux get accepted into more mission critical applications, where redundancy is a necessity.
Win-win #2
"Beefing up Linux's symmetric multiprocessing capabilities." We all complained about Mindcraft. SCO deserves credit for deciding to put effort in to fix this.
Win-win #3
"Managing multiple Linux servers as well as applications from a single console as if they were a single system." Four telnet terms on a screen? Seriously, I wonder to what extent this will be integrated? SGI and others have a similar tool available, enlightenDSM. Linux *really* needs this kind of configuration tool for it to be accepted into the high-end server market.
Win-win #4
"Improving security..." Although the article doesn't indicate to what extent this effort will be, it's certainly a good move. Since when did you hear the other vendors claim they are working on improving security issues. Maybe SCO will help fund the linux kernel security auditing project?
Well. Good thoughts SCO. I think they have got the right direction, and im sure 20 years of *nix experience will give some mature input into the "Beloved" OS;)
well, the irony of this is the comments people are making here.
most of the comments go along the lines of "stealing OUR information". Hrm. So like, it's evil for a company to not disclose source code of its competitive assets (ie: MS's kernel), but it is ok for America to keep its competitive assets (ie: nuclear tech) secret?
Isn't there something wrong here? Everyone on/. keeps talking about "free speech" and "free beer", but most of the US based readers fail to recognise Open Source on a larger scale.
And don't tell me its because atom bombs are far more destructive than the source code to a kernel. Go look at how Open Source tackles security - ie: Bugtraq, vunl-dev. That's all "open" - and everyone benefits because we can protect ourselves from attackers much better if we know their tools. So, likewise this should be the case on a larger scale - if we knew what weapons existed, we could better prepare ourselves against them.
Slashdot Mirror
Check out www.wehavethewayout.com - the official campaign site. It runs FreeBSD!
According to netcraft
Check out the netcraft results here.
why should idiots like you clog up the internet by buying domain names for christmas cards. I bet you irc with some rediculously long host like i.am.a.complete.fucking.idio.ot or post to alt.losers.i.have.no.life.so.i.like.to.waste.time. buying.domain.names.for.christmas.cards
I have no sympathy for you. get a life.
you _cant_ do this transparently without ACLs.
so you believe that you can achieve this setup with a umask? What is it?
ok.. lets say every user has a public_html folder in their home dir.
you want
1. for default files in their home dir to be read only by the user.
BUT
2. any file in public_html to be read and execute by world.
you want these permissions to apply TRANSPARENTLY. So whether if they put the files there from their shell, samba, ftp, appletalk, nfs WHATEVER - those files in public_html are available to the world.
go on.. try do that without ACL's.
FINALLY!!!
I have been complaining/whinging/asking about the lack of fscking ACL's for over a year an a half. They are (IMHO) one the BIGGEST limitation of linux. If anybody has attempted to use linux for a large number of users, they soon find out that they need ACLs!! Yes, there are patches and such, and I have tried them - although they are very unreliable.
why do people like you have to waste bandwidth complaining about moderation?!?! I laugh that you even bother believing that slashdot has moderation. If you want moderation, come here. As for manners.. I have no respect for slashdot stories anymore, so i'll write like i damn well please thankyou.
you want a safe system, and a shell account? Let me tell you this.. NO system is safe if users have shell accounts. Would you trust your mail server if you knew the local kiddies had a shell on it?
To be pedantic, (and slashdot has done this before), wouldn't the fact that these hackers compromised /. make them crackers ?
Ok. I'm entering the fray quite late and nobody will pay attention to this post.. but it has to be said..
with AMD and Intel, this whole MHz race is bullshit. There is no *real* advancement in technology when all these guys are doing is tweaking these old technologies to run faster.
But its this "hype" about MHz, driven mostly by you stupid overclockers, that keep AMD and Intel locked in this MHz race that makes everyone lose.
I mean, go look at MIPS who actually give a hoot about decent design - their R12k 400MHz is twice as fast as a PIII 800MHz at seti! And go check out PPC's Altivec, which is pretty much MMX except 10 times better.
But of course, the rest of the world seems to neglect these achievements in computing, and think that more MHz == better. WRONG. Go have a look at SPEC and see the current trend which shows that even though intel and AMD are making their chips run at a higher MHz, the performance gains really aren't that much.
So, we have this whole overclocking and MHz frenzy, which is basically driven by a bunch of clueless kiddies who believe that making a 5 year old technology run at a fast clock rate is the be all and end all of chip fabrication.
pfft
From the blurb down the bottom:
... looks like even posting a link to the super secret site is violating their site copyright. Naughty! you are in big trouble now!!
CONFIDENTIAL: The information disclosed herein regarding the Flash Vos(TM) includes confidential, proprietary information of Flash Vos Inc. This document, and the contents thereof, may not be used, reproduced, transmitted, transferred to other documents, or disclosed to any person or entity, in whole or in part, without the prior express written consent of Flash Vos Inc. The Flash Vos(TM) is covered by a United States Pending Patent Application. All rights are reserved to Flash Vos Inc.
So
hang on.. doesn't this warrant a violation of free speech?
According to this poll, 30% of readers spend most of their time in a windows environment.
And according to this poll, 73% of readers run more than one OS on their machine. I bet most of these people are dual booting windows.
Before everyone screams and yells "hurrah! haha M$ uses unix!", just sober up on these statistics. Microsoft may not be able to rid itself from UNIX, but many of us certainly can't rid ourselves of Windows!
From this gem in the net.unix-wizards group:
... What's the straight scoop? What is this magic method? I would appreciate it if you would respond via "mail" instead of broadcasting it.
Wed Mar 3 15:38:05 1982
UNIX security breach
The rootshell: (post contains quote from LA Times)
Computer experts are scurrying to counter what may be the most serious threat to computer security to crop up since the machines were invented.
A group of students at the University of California at Berkely figured out an extremely simple and undetectable way to crack a large number of computer systems and remove, change or destroy the information they contain.
...
[Note: notice the word "crack". At least they got it right back then!]
The script kiddie: (poster asking for the sploit)
Full list of mirrors: http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors
The (mirrored) official announcement from Martin Schulze: http://www.ids.org.au/ian/potato- announcement.txt.
Remeber, irc.debian.org (open projects) #debian, and #mashpotato for support.
And remember, before asking anything, '/msg apt install guide' !
Also, mark_, netsnipe, and raja have worked hard to bring you MashPotato (The Mobile Array of Support Helpers for Potato ), visit the website: http://www.linuxgiant.com/debian/
Enjoy!
www.jabber.com.
Nuff said.
What's with all this crap about being soooo cautious about space exploration. Let's just keep sending stuff out there until we succeed in getting to the other planets. I don't care if people die trying - shove the next door neighbours dog in the damn things and see if they get there. Aim my microwave at Mars and launch the sucker. I'm sick of waiting for this so called "space program"... the best way to succeed is to learn from failure.
If the "space program" ran the aviation industry in the first half of this century we wouldn't have aeroplanes, we would be sitting on the tarmack too frightened of flying for fear of killing someone, or losing a buck.
By the time the space program ever gets anywhere, intelligent life will have evolved on another planet and they will have found US.
"The reason given was that website enhancements are no longer news."
The Linuxstart news post is dated July last year. Thats a YEAR AGO.
when you have UMA?? ;)
"The hall of fame was created in 1973 by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and the National Council of Intellectual Property" Attorneys"
Um. Three cheers for Steve, but surely we shouldn't condone "awards" by these guys - it's hardly credible seeming as its not peer reviewed. (Not to take any due reward from Steve - but I don't agree with championing an award given by the very people who STUNT technological development.)
Win-win #1
"Building the Linux clustering capacity to be in line with SCO's NonStop Clusters technology"
Linux redundancy is currently limited to a few nodes - SCO claim they will increase this to 12. This will help Linux get accepted into more mission critical applications, where redundancy is a necessity.
Win-win #2
"Beefing up Linux's symmetric multiprocessing capabilities."
We all complained about Mindcraft. SCO deserves credit for deciding to put effort in to fix this.
Win-win #3
"Managing multiple Linux servers as well as applications from a single console as if they were a single system."
Four telnet terms on a screen? Seriously, I wonder to what extent this will be integrated? SGI and others have a similar tool available, enlightenDSM. Linux *really* needs this kind of configuration tool for it to be accepted into the high-end server market.
Win-win #4
"Improving security ..."
;)
Although the article doesn't indicate to what extent this effort will be, it's certainly a good move. Since when did you hear the other vendors claim they are working on improving security issues. Maybe SCO will help fund the linux kernel security auditing project?
Well. Good thoughts SCO. I think they have got the right direction, and im sure 20 years of *nix experience will give some mature input into the "Beloved" OS
well, the irony of this is the comments people are making here.
/. keeps talking about "free speech" and "free beer", but most of the US based readers fail to recognise Open Source on a larger scale.
most of the comments go along the lines of "stealing OUR information". Hrm. So like, it's evil for a company to not disclose source code of its competitive assets (ie: MS's kernel), but it is ok for America to keep its competitive assets (ie: nuclear tech) secret?
Isn't there something wrong here? Everyone on
And don't tell me its because atom bombs are far more destructive than the source code to a kernel. Go look at how Open Source tackles security - ie: Bugtraq, vunl-dev. That's all "open" - and everyone benefits because we can protect ourselves from attackers much better if we know their tools. So, likewise this should be the case on a larger scale - if we knew what weapons existed, we could better prepare ourselves against them.
See my point?
can it packet-sniff?
:)
ok. ok. lame joke
from the press release:
"Amiga is Back..."
hmm. I've heard this a few times. Perhaps this gives us an insight into what AMIGA might stand for, in the good 'ol GNU style:
"AMiga Is Going, Again"
:>
i wonder if there is a relationship between the quality of someones code, and the price of memory.
As price of memory decreases, the motivation to do implement good memory management decreases, thus quality of code decreases.
just my 2c.