MU HA HA HA! Remember Eric S. Raymond's prediction that Microsoft would be in a death spiral by the first or second quarter of 2001? Yeah, that looks like a great prediction in light of these record numbers. Good to see that Slashdot remains the place to go for high comedy.:)
Nintendo lost $130 million in the last quarter. Sony made $303.2 million. Microsoft made $2.61 billion. I see this is giving you as much trouble as simple addition. I recommend practicing the phrase, "Would you like fries with that?"
Look, you fucking idiot, your article says they lost $27 million (3 billion Yen) for the first half of the year. Do you know what a half of a year is? It's two quarters. For the first quarter ending June 30, they made 11.45 billion Yen (~$105 million) in profits. That means that in the second quarter, which ended September 30, THEY LOST 14.45 BILLION YEN (~$132 MILLION). Do you understand simple math? Q1 + Q2 = H1. (+11.45 billion) + (-14.45 billion) = -3 billion. Is it sinking in yet? If not, you're beyond hope, you imbecile.
Again, a recap. Microsoft: Making money. Sony: Making money. Sega: Making money. Nintendo: Losing money.
Hope you realize how stupid you sound. I said in the most recent quarter, and you're trying to bring up the last six months. Let me put it in real simple terms for you: When you lose $25 million for the first half-year, after gaining $105 million for the first quarter...do you see where this is going yet? That's right, IN THE MOST RECENT QUARTER, they lost $130 million.
Now, that expected $500 million profit for the year sounds dandy and all, but they didn't expect a loss for the first half, either. So basically, their expectations don't mean dick to anybody but Nintendo fanboys. Did they expect that they'd have to stop making GameCubes already, too? Sounds like the world is one big surprise for Nintendo and their crack team of forecasters.
And Sony? They're a profitable company, they made about $302 million this past quarter. Microsoft made money, too. Hell, even Sega made money -- that should be a big hint for The Little N.
That's great and all, but Nintendo lost over 130 million bucks last quarter and isn't even making GameCubes anymore because of all the unwanted inventory.
Hahahaha! You're calling for the demise of the Xbox because of this article? Let's break down these numbers. According to Nintendo, this quadrupling took them to 61,000 for the week, after averaging 15,000 per week for the rest of the month and going all the way back into August. Catch the significance of that? That means that the Cube was heading to a 60,000 sales month in the US, the lowest in its history. Even with the increase for the week, that means that they're looking at monthly sales of less than 110,000 (3 * 15000 + 61000). The Xbox has had exactly one month, which happened over a year ago, where it had sales within even 10,000 units of such a low number.
I had read the 800,000 in business wire many hours before it hit reuters. No biggie at all, I know this one issue has caused quite a bit of confusion this summer.
I know it's impossible to try to stop misinformation. But I'm going to give it the old college try, anyways.
The correct figure for Nintendo was 800,000 units shipped worldwide. Someone, somewhere made typo. And that false number is still floating all over the net.
Ummm, no. You can go read Nintendo's own financial report on their website for proof. It's 80,000, period. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/news/030805e.pdf I'm sure you'll believe Nintendo's own site, along with BBC, Reuters, Associated Press, Forbes, The Financial Times, CNN, and Money, who all state "80,000" over any Nintendo fanboy site claiming 800,000, right?
First off, these numbers don't measure popularity, they measure how many have been shipped to retailers. You need to know how many were sold to customers to have an idea of popularity.
Secondly, they're not very recent. The Xbox numbers are current as of June 30, while the GameCube numbers are current as of March 31. At least the author could've updated the GameCube numbers to their June 30 levels of 9,630,000. (Yes, they only shipped 80,000 units worldwide between April 1 and June 30).
Seriously, this article isn't anything to get excited about. The same info has already been available for months now in each company's public financial reports, and in Nintendo's case, is more current than what's in this article.
Read it and weep, jackass. The sales of the Xbox are nearly 50% higher than the GameCube in the European region. Japan is the only country on the planet where the GameCube isn't getting trounced by the PS2 and Xbox.
I can't give out the whole thing, but for Soul Calibur II, the GC version sold 179,605 units, the Xbox version sold 122,092 units, and the PS2 version sold 120,104 units.
Perception = reality. Publishers buy these reports to help them decide which consoles to put their future games, because they view NPD's numbers as credible after all these years. Enough with the Cube apologists harping on NPD and Wal-mart already.
I think this goes some way to explaining the Xbox's lacklustre sales in the other two big video game territories (Europe and Asia: just behind the GC in Europe, behind just about everything in Asia). Different cultures prefer different things, and the Xbox is very much a product of the US (the PS2 did well everywhere because it was out there first, and had an installed base of existing Playstation owners to sell into).
You gotta update that theory. The GameCube is getting blown away in the European region by both the PS2 and the Xbox. They're getting beaten much worse there than they are in the US.
Oh man, you don't have the slightest clue, do you? Remarkably nimble Sony Corporation? Try reading the news lately, go check out some reports from the analysts who track them. A brand new term was recently created due to Sony's blundering: "Sony Shock."
Actually, none of those games you listed were system sellers for the GameCube. For all practical purposes, about the only people buying those games were Nintendo fans, and they've owned the GameCube since it came out. That's why even when all those games appeared, GameCube sales still didn't surpass Xbox sales for the particular month in North America or Europe that they came out.
Nah, spongebob's right. The GameCube almost certainly costs less than what it is sold for, and the PS2 might (I've seen conflicting numbers on this, but I think they're probably making a little money on each one sold). But that's _now_. Earlier in their lifespans, both cost more to make than what they were sold for. So, nobody's going to complain about it when all the console makers do it.
A higher "concentration" of original games? C'mon now, using the GC's relative lack of games as a crutch which actually favors the GC is pretty ridiculous. Who cares which system has a higher concentration? Since it's simple to ignore games you don't want to play, the absolute number is the only one that matters.
Even if it was, what is it with so many nerds that they think the "-us" gets turned into "-ii?" Where's this extra "i" coming from? Seriously, where on earth did they pick that up from and why is it repeated so much? It's fuckin' annoying. Ahh, I feel better.:)
I think Nintendo shafted themselves. Their E3 was absolutely horrific. It's no surprise that by the time the show ended, Nintendo's stock had dropped 15 percent from what it was before the show started.
Personally, I think they've gotta quit promoting that damned GBA-GC connectivity crap -- most people don't want it and it's like they're dumbing down games to force people to use it. A lot of people aren't just indifferent, they're downright pissed off about it. It just about killed any interest I might've had in FF:CC.
I got WarioWare the same day you did, and yeah, it's a total blast. It's hard for me to recommend it to someone else because it's so odd, but damn has it been addictive for me.
It's a shame that so many people seem to be missing one of the greatest things about this game. Try doing a search for "goolies" and "slang" to get an entirely new aspect on what "Grabbed by the Ghoulies" means, and why it was easily the best-named game at the show this year.
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What are you talking about? Microsoft released a patch to fix the vulnerability involved before Blaster and its variants ever saw the light of day.
MU HA HA HA! Remember Eric S. Raymond's prediction that Microsoft would be in a death spiral by the first or second quarter of 2001? Yeah, that looks like a great prediction in light of these record numbers. Good to see that Slashdot remains the place to go for high comedy. :)
Nintendo lost $130 million in the last quarter. Sony made $303.2 million. Microsoft made $2.61 billion. I see this is giving you as much trouble as simple addition. I recommend practicing the phrase, "Would you like fries with that?"
Look, you fucking idiot, your article says they lost $27 million (3 billion Yen) for the first half of the year. Do you know what a half of a year is? It's two quarters. For the first quarter ending June 30, they made 11.45 billion Yen (~$105 million) in profits. That means that in the second quarter, which ended September 30, THEY LOST 14.45 BILLION YEN (~$132 MILLION). Do you understand simple math? Q1 + Q2 = H1. (+11.45 billion) + (-14.45 billion) = -3 billion. Is it sinking in yet? If not, you're beyond hope, you imbecile.
Again, a recap. Microsoft: Making money. Sony: Making money. Sega: Making money. Nintendo: Losing money.
Hope you realize how stupid you sound. I said in the most recent quarter, and you're trying to bring up the last six months. Let me put it in real simple terms for you: When you lose $25 million for the first half-year, after gaining $105 million for the first quarter...do you see where this is going yet? That's right, IN THE MOST RECENT QUARTER, they lost $130 million.
Now, that expected $500 million profit for the year sounds dandy and all, but they didn't expect a loss for the first half, either. So basically, their expectations don't mean dick to anybody but Nintendo fanboys. Did they expect that they'd have to stop making GameCubes already, too? Sounds like the world is one big surprise for Nintendo and their crack team of forecasters.
And Sony? They're a profitable company, they made about $302 million this past quarter. Microsoft made money, too. Hell, even Sega made money -- that should be a big hint for The Little N.
That's great and all, but Nintendo lost over 130 million bucks last quarter and isn't even making GameCubes anymore because of all the unwanted inventory.
Hahahaha! You're calling for the demise of the Xbox because of this article? Let's break down these numbers. According to Nintendo, this quadrupling took them to 61,000 for the week, after averaging 15,000 per week for the rest of the month and going all the way back into August. Catch the significance of that? That means that the Cube was heading to a 60,000 sales month in the US, the lowest in its history. Even with the increase for the week, that means that they're looking at monthly sales of less than 110,000 (3 * 15000 + 61000). The Xbox has had exactly one month, which happened over a year ago, where it had sales within even 10,000 units of such a low number.
Get some perspective already.
I had read the 800,000 in business wire many hours before it hit reuters.
No biggie at all, I know this one issue has caused quite a bit of confusion this summer.
80,000, you bitter loser. Nintendo even agrees. That's approximately 79,900 more people than are enjoying GameCube games online. :)
I know it's impossible to try to stop misinformation. But I'm going to give it the old college try, anyways.
The correct figure for Nintendo was 800,000 units shipped worldwide. Someone, somewhere made typo. And that false number is still floating all over the net.
Ummm, no. You can go read Nintendo's own financial report on their website for proof. It's 80,000, period. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/news/030805e.pdf
I'm sure you'll believe Nintendo's own site, along with BBC, Reuters, Associated Press, Forbes, The Financial Times, CNN, and Money, who all state "80,000" over any Nintendo fanboy site claiming 800,000, right?
First off, these numbers don't measure popularity, they measure how many have been shipped to retailers. You need to know how many were sold to customers to have an idea of popularity.
Secondly, they're not very recent. The Xbox numbers are current as of June 30, while the GameCube numbers are current as of March 31. At least the author could've updated the GameCube numbers to their June 30 levels of 9,630,000. (Yes, they only shipped 80,000 units worldwide between April 1 and June 30).
Seriously, this article isn't anything to get excited about. The same info has already been available for months now in each company's public financial reports, and in Nintendo's case, is more current than what's in this article.
Read it and weep, jackass. The sales of the Xbox are nearly 50% higher than the GameCube in the European region. Japan is the only country on the planet where the GameCube isn't getting trounced by the PS2 and Xbox.
I can't give out the whole thing, but for Soul Calibur II, the GC version sold 179,605 units, the Xbox version sold 122,092 units, and the PS2 version sold 120,104 units.
Perception = reality. Publishers buy these reports to help them decide which consoles to put their future games, because they view NPD's numbers as credible after all these years. Enough with the Cube apologists harping on NPD and Wal-mart already.
I think this goes some way to explaining the Xbox's lacklustre sales in the other two big video game territories (Europe and Asia: just behind the GC in Europe, behind just about everything in Asia). Different cultures prefer different things, and the Xbox is very much a product of the US (the PS2 did well everywhere because it was out there first, and had an installed base of existing Playstation owners to sell into).
You gotta update that theory. The GameCube is getting blown away in the European region by both the PS2 and the Xbox. They're getting beaten much worse there than they are in the US.
Sony doesn't stumble. Period.
Oh man, you don't have the slightest clue, do you? Remarkably nimble Sony Corporation? Try reading the news lately, go check out some reports from the analysts who track them. A brand new term was recently created due to Sony's blundering: "Sony Shock."
What happen, he get stuck having to share a cab with Jerry Nadler while going to a Democrat event in NYC?
Seven year-old games that you can watch but not even play? If that's the future, thanks but no thanks.
Actually, none of those games you listed were system sellers for the GameCube. For all practical purposes, about the only people buying those games were Nintendo fans, and they've owned the GameCube since it came out. That's why even when all those games appeared, GameCube sales still didn't surpass Xbox sales for the particular month in North America or Europe that they came out.
Nah, spongebob's right. The GameCube almost certainly costs less than what it is sold for, and the PS2 might (I've seen conflicting numbers on this, but I think they're probably making a little money on each one sold). But that's _now_. Earlier in their lifespans, both cost more to make than what they were sold for. So, nobody's going to complain about it when all the console makers do it.
A higher "concentration" of original games? C'mon now, using the GC's relative lack of games as a crutch which actually favors the GC is pretty ridiculous. Who cares which system has a higher concentration? Since it's simple to ignore games you don't want to play, the absolute number is the only one that matters.
Even if it was, what is it with so many nerds that they think the "-us" gets turned into "-ii?" Where's this extra "i" coming from? Seriously, where on earth did they pick that up from and why is it repeated so much? It's fuckin' annoying. Ahh, I feel better. :)
Personally, I think they've gotta quit promoting that damned GBA-GC connectivity crap -- most people don't want it and it's like they're dumbing down games to force people to use it. A lot of people aren't just indifferent, they're downright pissed off about it. It just about killed any interest I might've had in FF:CC.
I got WarioWare the same day you did, and yeah, it's a total blast. It's hard for me to recommend it to someone else because it's so odd, but damn has it been addictive for me.
It's a shame that so many people seem to be missing one of the greatest things about this game. Try doing a search for "goolies" and "slang" to get an entirely new aspect on what "Grabbed by the Ghoulies" means, and why it was easily the best-named game at the show this year.
That's 8 players, via connecting 2 Cubes.