I remember the recent article about this, but what's the latest word on how long the delay's going to be? If it's an insignificant amount of time, and Id really wants people to hold off, then they should put their money where their mouths are and delay the Windows version for a concurrent release. If it's a long delay, though, they're never going to be able to make it work -- gamers are the biggest members of the Gotta-Have-It-First club.
And I'll readily wager that Diablo II will have its fair share, too. Not that it'll keep me from checking it out, but we are talking about the computer game industry here.
I mean, unless Linux is the only platform that you use or something. People have been waiting for this game forever, it's pretty silly to expect them to wait to buy it while all their other buddies are already playing it.
I can't believe that so many of you people are hanging your hopes on a loser like Corel. Are you really that desperate to be able to run Windows apps on your computers? Imagine if all that development work had actually gone into producing decent apps instead of WINE itself -- which still doesn't seem like it will ever do better than a half-assed job on anything but a handful of quality Windows apps.
Whenever I see someone using WINE, I just want to slap 'em around and tell them to quit being such a cheapass and to go buy one of those dinky little $300 Windows boxes, which will still blow WINE away. I can't help but think that they're the kind of people who take a date to the Sizzler all-you-can-eat bar with "two-for-the-price-of-one" and free drinks coupons stuffed in his pockets.
Sounds like good news for Microsoft to me. Nobody would expect a company that produces its own servers like IBM to move to Microsoft's flavor. On the other hand, the fact that an anti-Microsoft company like IBM is already committed to Win2K Pro on the desktop says a lot about how big Win2K Pro is going to be on corporate desktops. I use it on my ThinkPad (with Win2K, NT4, Solaris/SPARC 7, and RH5.2/6.1 on my servers), and I've got to say that no other OS comes close to matching the quality of the "user experience," for lack of a better term.
Just as slapping the Win95 GUI onto NT resulted in a growth explosion for NT4 Server in business, the migration to Win2K on desktops and laptops will ensure a strong role for Win2K on the servers, because Microsoft really has done some impressive things for TCO and administration when the two are used in combination.
Frankly, whether an IT head decides to use Win2K on the server or not, if he sticks with Win98 clients instead of going to Win2k Pro, he really ought to have his head examined. It really is that good, and I haven't even tried anything beyond RC2 yet.
At least not if we're talking the type that frequents Slashdot. I don't think the politics of envy, as in "Screw whoever has more than you, because they must have cheated to get it," was ever a primary tenet of Libertarianism.
I went to EPCOT this summer, and it was sufficiently hot that shorts and a t-shirt were called for. Unfortunately, I decided to wear a shirt that Xircom had sent me after getting a RealPort Modem/Ethernet card for my laptop. Well, the back has an image of a dongle in a surgeon's tray, along with the words, "Have you had your dongle removed?" Heh, I like the shirt, but as the day was winding down, I was approached by one of their security team asking what this "dongle business" was all about. My generous hosts eventually let me stay after giving them a thorough explanation of what the shirt meant, although I don't think they understood a word I said.
Oh well, even though I'd love one, I guess it's for the best that I don't have a shirt with their other ad: A picture of Michelangelo's David, except with his penis broken off, along with the phrase "Uh oh, David's lost his dongle." Heh, Disney probably would've beaten me down with some billy clubs if I had worn that one.
After all, everyone knows that when yet another remote security hole for Linux is found, it won't get reported on Slashdot. Funny that, seeing how most of the people here seem to be Linux users and would have the greatest need to know. But hey, as far as you're concerned, there have been no rootshell exploits for Linux, just exploits for Windows, so you're safe.
Kudos to Slashdot for blaring a warning about an exploit that hasn't been seen in the wild, reported by an Anti-Virus firm, and that can only work on computers that haven't been updated by a patch released three months ago. Job well done, boys!
And to think that Katz has the stones to bitch about the mainstream media overhyping stories...
Now, I wouldn't want to have to wade through tons of these, but I do have to admit that it totally cracked me up. The fact that some people (not you) actually believe that they're serious posts, and the fact that I could actually see stuff like that getting published, just goes to show you the sorry direction that education has taken due to the prevailing liberal nepotism. Kinda reminds me of the classic Sokal's Experiment.
C'mon, surely you could've found something which did a better job of promoting a *BSD than this article -- the guy was bordering on knowing nothing about it.
Heh, how'd you do that to the colors, anyway? They're making me hungry.:)
Why do you even bother pretending that the reason this was posted was because it was about BSD? It's pretty obvious that this article is here because it's a typical Slashdot anti-Microsoft article. Let's have a little credibility, please.
The reason why you don't see a gathering place for Windows users is the same reason why in the U.S. you don't see a National Association for the Advancement of White People, National Organization for Men, Congressional White Caucus, United Whitey College Fund, White Heritage Month, etc.
There are Windows users found in every facet of society. To me, it sounds like you want them to fit some sort of stereotype, as in everyone going to the same web sites. It's kind of hard to stereotype such a diverse group, though. When you take a look at what the stereotype of a Linux-using Slashdot patron is, though, I can only wonder why anyone would want that for him or herself. I know that I definitely don't go out of my way to let people know I visit this site or use Linux because of all the negative connotations associated with it.
The judge isn't what's important -- a new administration could tell the DoJ to quit pursuing the case or to reach a settlement that doesn't hurt Microsoft, because if Microsoft continues to appeal the judge's ultimate verdict, this case won't be done before 2001 when a new administration takes office.
Also, Hemos was wrong about this case being more likely to be settled now. The DoJ will be emboldened by Jackson's finding to make any settlement very favorable to the DoJ, so that it's more likely that Microsoft won't agree to their terms, deciding to take their chances with the appeals process, where they have a very good chance of prevailing.
That's nice. It's also my right to lobby and vote to not make it any easier for the ignorant and apathetic such as yourself to vote. Seeing as I'm up against the apathetic and the ignorant, I'm not too worried.
Reminds me of the Christian Coalition rather.
Whoa, slow down, we're at Slashdot, not CNN.com. When you can't argue a point to save your ass and you have to resort to name-calling, you're supposed to use the term "Microsoft shill." Hope this helps.
To me, if you (the general you, not you personally) can't take 30 minutes out of one day each year to vote, then you obviously aren't very committed to a particular candidate.
When you consider that 49 percent of Americans are unable to name any one of the rights guaranteed by the First Amendment*, I'm all for making voting something into which you actually have to put some effort.
[*] Source: First Amendment Center; The Center for Survey Research and Analysis, University of Connecticut.
Current security issues aside, I still think it's a bad idea. I like that there's a bit of an inconvenience in having to go down to the polling booth. If someone has to put some effort into the action (including registering to vote in the first place), it usually (not always) means that they've actually put some thought into it, rather than just a knee-jerk click on a web form. I'm no fan of Bill Clinton, but I'd really rather not see Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf as the next president of the United States, either.
Last year, about 17,000 people were murdered or were the victims of nonnegligent manslaughter in the U.S. I think the peak year was 1994, when 21 or 22 thousand fell victim to same. It would take around 50 years of that to bring the total up to 1 million. Forget "crude," there is no comparison between this and the many tens of millions killed by 20th-century communism.
In reality, how does someone know that they've made a horrible movie when they rake in the money. I don't know.
They know it because they see a huge dropoff in sales after the opening weekend. They know it because their video rental sales stink. And you might not believe it, but the people who make expensive movies that show those characteristics get dealt with very harshly in the industry these days, no matter how much the movie was hyped or how well it did in the first weekend.
1. The Linux community has earned a reputation of not being willing to pay for anything.
2. The Linux market for things like this is sufficiently small that the companies figure that it's not worth spending the money to make sure that it works under Linux.
They don't sit around and say, "Yeah! Let's shut out all those Linux/Amiga/Etc. users, we don't want them watching our movies," they just don't yet see a business advantage in doing so.
Sounds like a waste of time to me. For those of us with CD-ROM burners, if I'm going to spend the time to download 300MB, I might as well just grab the whole thing so that I can use it on any computer and can make copies for friends, thereby helping the spread of Slackware. Seems pretty short-sighted on Slackware or CDROM.com's part.
ISO's are handy if you're burning a CD and don't care about wasting bandwidth.
If you're downloading the entire distribution, how is it a waste of bandwidth to grab the ISO image instead? You're still downloading the same amount of data. Actually, downloading the ISO image will use less total bandwidth than downloading the individual files because of all the extra GETs, etc., involved when you're doing the latter.
Where I'm coming from: Probably by now have seen all the episodes of the original series, a few dozen or so of the Next Generation series, and just a handful each of the next two spin-offs.
The original series was just a plain fun show. It never took itself too seriously, and you could count on getting laughs out of Kirk, Bones, and Spock. By the time the Next Generation was in high gear, the humor was drained from it, with forced Data gags being about the only source of attempted humor. The show just took itself way too seriously, with constant kvetching about the "Prime Directive" or whatever. Instead of appreciating the show for its entertainment value, trekkies would incessantly debate the minutiae of the show and whether this or that scientific aspect was legit. I thought: Who cares? If I want to deal with some legit science, I'll pick up a tome based on fact, not watch a fictional TV show. Just entertain me.
Unfortunately, the show's creators would listen too closely to the over-analyzing of the trekkies, and while pandering to them, neglect what it takes to make a good all-around show. They thought it was necessary to cater to this narrower audience in order to keep the series alive. They were probably right -- the problem is that the approach didn't make for good TV.
Now look at the original series -- they didn't have instant feedback on every single facet of the show, so the show was a product of the creators, not a reaction to the complaints of trekkies. Sure, it didn't get a strong enough reaction from any one group (like the latter series did from the trekkies, and only the trekkies) to allow it to survive more than a couple of seasons, but it made its appeal more universal. That's why, even to this day, everybody knows who Kirk, Bones, Spock, etc., are. Targetting a show at a niche audience is okay, but when you start ceding the creative control to a nitpicky audience, you're asking for trouble, because you're never going to be able to satisfy everyone. It might get you longevity, but the end result is predictable and feels forced.
I will give the latter series credit for the whole Borg thing, which was a very cool concept. At this point, though, about the only thing that will get me tuning in is some good old fashioned lesbian action.;-)
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I remember the recent article about this, but what's the latest word on how long the delay's going to be? If it's an insignificant amount of time, and Id really wants people to hold off, then they should put their money where their mouths are and delay the Windows version for a concurrent release. If it's a long delay, though, they're never going to be able to make it work -- gamers are the biggest members of the Gotta-Have-It-First club.
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And I'll readily wager that Diablo II will have its fair share, too. Not that it'll keep me from checking it out, but we are talking about the computer game industry here.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I mean, unless Linux is the only platform that you use or something. People have been waiting for this game forever, it's pretty silly to expect them to wait to buy it while all their other buddies are already playing it.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I can't believe that so many of you people are hanging your hopes on a loser like Corel. Are you really that desperate to be able to run Windows apps on your computers? Imagine if all that development work had actually gone into producing decent apps instead of WINE itself -- which still doesn't seem like it will ever do better than a half-assed job on anything but a handful of quality Windows apps.
Whenever I see someone using WINE, I just want to slap 'em around and tell them to quit being such a cheapass and to go buy one of those dinky little $300 Windows boxes, which will still blow WINE away. I can't help but think that they're the kind of people who take a date to the Sizzler all-you-can-eat bar with "two-for-the-price-of-one" and free drinks coupons stuffed in his pockets.
It'd be sad if it weren't so freakin' funny.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Sounds like good news for Microsoft to me. Nobody would expect a company that produces its own servers like IBM to move to Microsoft's flavor. On the other hand, the fact that an anti-Microsoft company like IBM is already committed to Win2K Pro on the desktop says a lot about how big Win2K Pro is going to be on corporate desktops. I use it on my ThinkPad (with Win2K, NT4, Solaris/SPARC 7, and RH5.2/6.1 on my servers), and I've got to say that no other OS comes close to matching the quality of the "user experience," for lack of a better term.
Just as slapping the Win95 GUI onto NT resulted in a growth explosion for NT4 Server in business, the migration to Win2K on desktops and laptops will ensure a strong role for Win2K on the servers, because Microsoft really has done some impressive things for TCO and administration when the two are used in combination.
Frankly, whether an IT head decides to use Win2K on the server or not, if he sticks with Win98 clients instead of going to Win2k Pro, he really ought to have his head examined. It really is that good, and I haven't even tried anything beyond RC2 yet.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
At least not if we're talking the type that frequents Slashdot. I don't think the politics of envy, as in "Screw whoever has more than you, because they must have cheated to get it," was ever a primary tenet of Libertarianism.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I went to EPCOT this summer, and it was sufficiently hot that shorts and a t-shirt were called for. Unfortunately, I decided to wear a shirt that Xircom had sent me after getting a RealPort Modem/Ethernet card for my laptop. Well, the back has an image of a dongle in a surgeon's tray, along with the words, "Have you had your dongle removed?" Heh, I like the shirt, but as the day was winding down, I was approached by one of their security team asking what this "dongle business" was all about. My generous hosts eventually let me stay after giving them a thorough explanation of what the shirt meant, although I don't think they understood a word I said.
Oh well, even though I'd love one, I guess it's for the best that I don't have a shirt with their other ad: A picture of Michelangelo's David, except with his penis broken off, along with the phrase "Uh oh, David's lost his dongle." Heh, Disney probably would've beaten me down with some billy clubs if I had worn that one.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
After all, everyone knows that when yet another remote security hole for Linux is found, it won't get reported on Slashdot. Funny that, seeing how most of the people here seem to be Linux users and would have the greatest need to know. But hey, as far as you're concerned, there have been no rootshell exploits for Linux, just exploits for Windows, so you're safe.
Kudos to Slashdot for blaring a warning about an exploit that hasn't been seen in the wild, reported by an Anti-Virus firm, and that can only work on computers that haven't been updated by a patch released three months ago. Job well done, boys!
And to think that Katz has the stones to bitch about the mainstream media overhyping stories...
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Now, I wouldn't want to have to wade through tons of these, but I do have to admit that it totally cracked me up. The fact that some people (not you) actually believe that they're serious posts, and the fact that I could actually see stuff like that getting published, just goes to show you the sorry direction that education has taken due to the prevailing liberal nepotism. Kinda reminds me of the classic Sokal's Experiment.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
C'mon, surely you could've found something which did a better job of promoting a *BSD than this article -- the guy was bordering on knowing nothing about it.
Heh, how'd you do that to the colors, anyway? They're making me hungry. :)
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ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Even better, one of this company's main products is their own Web Server, and they're still using IIS. Ahhh comedy, thy name is Slashdot! ;-)
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Why do you even bother pretending that the reason this was posted was because it was about BSD? It's pretty obvious that this article is here because it's a typical Slashdot anti-Microsoft article. Let's have a little credibility, please.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
The reason why you don't see a gathering place for Windows users is the same reason why in the U.S. you don't see a National Association for the Advancement of White People, National Organization for Men, Congressional White Caucus, United Whitey College Fund, White Heritage Month, etc.
There are Windows users found in every facet of society. To me, it sounds like you want them to fit some sort of stereotype, as in everyone going to the same web sites. It's kind of hard to stereotype such a diverse group, though. When you take a look at what the stereotype of a Linux-using Slashdot patron is, though, I can only wonder why anyone would want that for him or herself. I know that I definitely don't go out of my way to let people know I visit this site or use Linux because of all the negative connotations associated with it.
Cheers,
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The judge isn't what's important -- a new administration could tell the DoJ to quit pursuing the case or to reach a settlement that doesn't hurt Microsoft, because if Microsoft continues to appeal the judge's ultimate verdict, this case won't be done before 2001 when a new administration takes office.
Also, Hemos was wrong about this case being more likely to be settled now. The DoJ will be emboldened by Jackson's finding to make any settlement very favorable to the DoJ, so that it's more likely that Microsoft won't agree to their terms, deciding to take their chances with the appeals process, where they have a very good chance of prevailing.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
That's nice. It's also my right to lobby and vote to not make it any easier for the ignorant and apathetic such as yourself to vote. Seeing as I'm up against the apathetic and the ignorant, I'm not too worried.
Reminds me of the Christian Coalition rather.
Whoa, slow down, we're at Slashdot, not CNN.com. When you can't argue a point to save your ass and you have to resort to name-calling, you're supposed to use the term "Microsoft shill." Hope this helps.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
To me, if you (the general you, not you personally) can't take 30 minutes out of one day each year to vote, then you obviously aren't very committed to a particular candidate.
When you consider that 49 percent of Americans are unable to name any one of the rights guaranteed by the First Amendment*, I'm all for making voting something into which you actually have to put some effort.
[*] Source: First Amendment Center; The Center for Survey Research and Analysis, University of Connecticut.
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Current security issues aside, I still think it's a bad idea. I like that there's a bit of an inconvenience in having to go down to the polling booth. If someone has to put some effort into the action (including registering to vote in the first place), it usually (not always) means that they've actually put some thought into it, rather than just a knee-jerk click on a web form. I'm no fan of Bill Clinton, but I'd really rather not see Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf as the next president of the United States, either.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Last year, about 17,000 people were murdered or were the victims of nonnegligent manslaughter in the U.S. I think the peak year was 1994, when 21 or 22 thousand fell victim to same. It would take around 50 years of that to bring the total up to 1 million. Forget "crude," there is no comparison between this and the many tens of millions killed by 20th-century communism.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
They know it because they see a huge dropoff in sales after the opening weekend. They know it because their video rental sales stink. And you might not believe it, but the people who make expensive movies that show those characteristics get dealt with very harshly in the industry these days, no matter how much the movie was hyped or how well it did in the first weekend.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
1. The Linux community has earned a reputation of not being willing to pay for anything.
2. The Linux market for things like this is sufficiently small that the companies figure that it's not worth spending the money to make sure that it works under Linux.
They don't sit around and say, "Yeah! Let's shut out all those Linux/Amiga/Etc. users, we don't want them watching our movies," they just don't yet see a business advantage in doing so.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Sounds like a waste of time to me. For those of us with CD-ROM burners, if I'm going to spend the time to download 300MB, I might as well just grab the whole thing so that I can use it on any computer and can make copies for friends, thereby helping the spread of Slackware. Seems pretty short-sighted on Slackware or CDROM.com's part.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Am I supposed to care whether not I inconvenience some little warez kiddie? I think not.
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If you're downloading the entire distribution, how is it a waste of bandwidth to grab the ISO image instead? You're still downloading the same amount of data. Actually, downloading the ISO image will use less total bandwidth than downloading the individual files because of all the extra GETs, etc., involved when you're doing the latter.
Cheers,
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Where I'm coming from: Probably by now have seen all the episodes of the original series, a few dozen or so of the Next Generation series, and just a handful each of the next two spin-offs.
The original series was just a plain fun show. It never took itself too seriously, and you could count on getting laughs out of Kirk, Bones, and Spock. By the time the Next Generation was in high gear, the humor was drained from it, with forced Data gags being about the only source of attempted humor. The show just took itself way too seriously, with constant kvetching about the "Prime Directive" or whatever. Instead of appreciating the show for its entertainment value, trekkies would incessantly debate the minutiae of the show and whether this or that scientific aspect was legit. I thought: Who cares? If I want to deal with some legit science, I'll pick up a tome based on fact, not watch a fictional TV show. Just entertain me.
Unfortunately, the show's creators would listen too closely to the over-analyzing of the trekkies, and while pandering to them, neglect what it takes to make a good all-around show. They thought it was necessary to cater to this narrower audience in order to keep the series alive. They were probably right -- the problem is that the approach didn't make for good TV.
Now look at the original series -- they didn't have instant feedback on every single facet of the show, so the show was a product of the creators, not a reaction to the complaints of trekkies. Sure, it didn't get a strong enough reaction from any one group (like the latter series did from the trekkies, and only the trekkies) to allow it to survive more than a couple of seasons, but it made its appeal more universal. That's why, even to this day, everybody knows who Kirk, Bones, Spock, etc., are. Targetting a show at a niche audience is okay, but when you start ceding the creative control to a nitpicky audience, you're asking for trouble, because you're never going to be able to satisfy everyone. It might get you longevity, but the end result is predictable and feels forced.
I will give the latter series credit for the whole Borg thing, which was a very cool concept. At this point, though, about the only thing that will get me tuning in is some good old fashioned lesbian action. ;-)
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
It's comical, really, to see how many so-called independent thinkers here at Slashdot are just the same old marxist suckers of the past.
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