Don't ask me why I'm bothering to respond to such a moronic post, but if someone's really looking to for a proof-of-concept application for.NET, they can check out http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/compare/ to see how Oracle's benchmarks for their implementation of Sun's own J2EE blueprint Java Pet Store application were destroyed by rewriting it as a.NET app in C#. The performance improved by a factor of 28 in a fraction of the code. Oh yeah, Oracle supposedly rewrote their implementation in response, but curiously won't release the details about how they did it. How convenient.:)
I'm beginning to feel a little sorry for people who are Windows boosters. Where do they go for their community?
Umm, that's about as useful as having meetings for non-alcoholics, non-Mensa qualifier get-togethers, or picnics for people who don't run marathons. Try looking into the majority/minority dynamic sometime. See, there's no need to seek out fellow Windows users when practically anybody can give 10 friends a call and 9 of them will have some Windows experience. C'mon chrisd, do try harder next time.
I'm waiting for the day that you have to pay to watch streaming content on the web.
Well, you'll either pay for it or watch ads during the content. Did you think all that bandwidth was free? Or that content providers were just going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts for you, because they think you're just such a special guy?
It's people like you who put Netscape where it is today. While MS was improving IE, you and your ilk were sitting around saying, "Hey, it's okay that Netscape munges tables and needs to reload everything if I *gasp* resize the page -- everyone should support them because they're not Microsoft!" Keep supporting screw-ups just because you hate their enemy and you'll ensure that they always remain screw-ups, because the only thing they need to do to retain that particular business model for a while is to not be bought out by said enemy -- that is, until they finally go out of business because people couldn't take the crappiness anymore.
Oh, and this is coming from someone who prefers Windows Media Player 8, hates all versions of QuickTime, and is happy enough with Real to be a GoldPass subscriber ('though not a Real One subscriber, although that's the player I use for Real now). And call me crazy, but I let them bill me every month because the service they provide is worth it to me, not because they ain't Microsoft.
Linux really doesn't impress me, but if I was into that whole GPL philosophy, it seems like Linux would be an easy choice over Hurd, which seems pretty far behind. Can a Hurd supporter give a couple of reasons why anyone would choose Hurd over Linux?
Correct, it doesn't make economical sense for them to pre-install Linux. That's why Dell stopped selling Linux desktops. It's all about economies of scale. Every time that a company has to deviate from the standard product that they build, it costs them money. If they don't make enough by doing that to cover the price, then it doesn't make economical sense for them. Are you implying that it would be efficient for them to sell Windows, Linux, BeOS, *BSD, Darwin, and OS/2 desktops? If you really think that, you truly don't understand the real world.
So if you agree with me that it doesn't make sense for them to offer just any old x86 operating system out there for pre-install, explain why it is they should make a special case for Linux when it's only accounting for 0.24% of the userbase.
This doesn't even address the extra huge support costs associated with offering additional operating systems, especially Linux, since these companies don't just throw systems out there and refuse to support them.
Can you say, "It doesn't make economical sense to disrupt our assembly line to produce a different kind of machine when only 0.24% of customers want it."? I knew you could. Now, can you blame them?
Did you know that one in five new desktop computers have Linux? How do I know this? Well, Google tells us that 4% of its visitors use XP, 1% Linux. We can assume that all of these are relatively new users, so therefore 1 in five of new desktop computers are Linux. Of course this is crap too, but it shows you can distort stats to prove whatever you want, and I am sure that MS are a master of this.
Well, the main reason it's crap is because you grossly misinterpreted it.:) You'd be correct to assume that the XP numbers are tracking relatively new users, but that certainly wouldn't be the case with Linux. So in other words, what the numbers say is that XP, which during the period of the survey had only been released for 1 month and 6 days (and even then only the client version, not the server version), already had 4 times the total number of users that Linux did. Ouch...
SAN DIEGO, Dec. 19/PRNewswire/ -- WebSideStory, Inc. ( www.websidestory.com ), the world's leading provider of outsourced e-business intelligence services, today reported that despite much hype and expectation in recent years, Linux has failed to gain market share from Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) and Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) operating systems. As of December 17, 2001, Linux held a global usage share of only 0.24 percent, according to WebSideStory's StatMarket ( www.statmarket.com ), a Web development optimization service and the leading source for data on global Internet user trends. This compares with Microsoft's Windows and Apple's Macintosh operating systems, which hold a combined global usage share of more than 98 percent. For almost three years, Linux usage share has fluctuated between.2 and.3 percent, with no substantial growth. Usage share is the percentage of Internet surfers that are using a particular operating system.
Every Nintendo apologist always brings up this Walmart thing, but they coincidentally never give a source. Know why? 'Cause it's bogus. Where in this article's numbers did they say that Walmart figures were excluded?
It's even simpler than that, and you don't have to trust the survey at all, just Nintendo's own numbers. Nintendo came out with a press release saying that as of December 14, they had sold 802,000 GameCubes throughout the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. That's about 200,000 per week. This survey says that they sold 602,000 GameCubes as of December 8. Note the dates and the numbers. Just about one week. 200,000 sales. Ya know, kinda like the 200,000 per week that Nintendo claimed they had been selling?
So for the love of God, will you guys please quit bringing up this completely false issue of Walmart? Besides, you'll just end up making the Nintendo look like it's doing even worse against the Xbox. Because if Walmart were really excluded from the numbers, than while Nintendo claims that they've sold 802,000 as of December 14, then Microsoft already sold 934,000 by December 8th, not even including your precious Walmart numbers. With the so-called absent Walmart numbers, Microsoft would then easily be over the 1-million sold mark for Xboxes.
Nintendo said that they'd sold 802,000 GameCubes in the U.S., Mexico, and Canada as of December 14. That's a rate of about 200,000 per week. Seeing as this particular survey says they sold 602,000 as of December 8, about a week later, it sounds pretty dang reasonable to me. Care to rethink your anger?
The thing that amuses me is that both MS and Nintendo were claiming to be on top of the pile at their launch and here neither were. Ah, have to love true just desserts.
The thing that really amuses me is that you're acting all smug but you don't even realize that the time period that you yourself quoted gave the PS2 and extra four days of sales over the Xbox, which wasn't released until 4 days into this particular survey. So while the PS2 sold an average of 34.4 thousand units during the days it was available, the Xbox sold an average of 38.9 thousand per day while it was available. Ah, have to love true just desserts.:)
Considering Nintendo sold their entire 750,000 first shipment in the FIRST WEEK of release. That article is stating they only sold 602,000 in *4* weeks which is WAY WAY off.
Considering that on December 14, Nintendo itself put out a press release stating that it had sold about 800,000 GameCubes from the U.S., Canada, and Mexico combined, I'd have to draw the conclusion that you're completely full of shit.
Funny, your post doesn't address what I was saying whatsoever. As for the point you brought up, I'm assuming that you're not American, but we've got libel laws over here. If Microsoft is lying, Lineo can sue them. Do they do that? Nope, they just produced a bunch of hot air. Time to put up or shut up.
Actually, the truth of the matter is, what else are they going to use? Linux? Well no, we're looking for something secure, not with something needing more security patches than Windows. More difficult to use plus more insecure plus poor software choices isn't exactly a winning combination. Macs? That'd be the top alternative, but it's kind of hard to justify Mac prices when they're so limited power-wise and software-wise compared to Windows PCs. And that's why people prefer Windows.
I hope all the Dmitry supporters are pleased that he's shown himself to be a backstabbing rat. Anybody want to take bets on how long it takes before a Russian investor of ElcomSoft decides to corner him on some cold winter's night and puts a bullet in the back of his head?:)
No offense, although I'd understand if you took it that way, but you seem to be one of those types of people whose primary interest seems to be building up his or her own little (or large) cult of fanboys. Just as Nick Petreley and Mary Jo Foley seemed to adopt a life goal of being heroes of Microsoft-haters everywhere, it seems like you also crave the adulation of a similar niche. A bit broader than the Microsoft-hater group, albeit with a big overlap, but also including a lot of the "Information wants to be free, d00d!" crowd.
Basically, I'm just curious (and I'd love to know how Nick and Mary Jo feel as well) if you really find such a position to be very satisfying. On the outside looking in at the situation, I'd have to say that it always reminds me of that great Anthony Michael Hall line from "Sixteen Candles," the one about being "King of the dipshits" and whatnot. That ring any bells?
VA Linux is perhaps an under-performer, but the general trends can be seen in all the graphs.
Um, during the lifetime of the LNUX vs. MSFT chart that you chose, a quick eyeballing shows MSFT to have gone up about 25% and LNUX has gone down about 55%. What's the particular trend that you're referring to?
Unless, of course, you mean that the trend itself is that MSFT is on an upward path and LNUX is on a downward path, which does seem to be what the future holds. I just thought you were referring to something else.
Things like this, the whole digital-anarchist/netizen/dig-my-meme garbage, is precisely why I stopped subscribing to Wired within a couple of years of it starting out. "Transcending dogma and cant?" Give me a freakin' break, man.
Au contraire, mon frere! Just go to http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/getexe.htm #ol2002 and get the registry-editing instructions or downloadable tools to let you determine the Outlook 2000/2002 (XP) security settings on any type of file you want. I recommend the "Attachment Security Options" tool, myself.
Nope. With Outlook 2002 (XP), Outlook 2000 with SP2, or Outlook 98 or 2000 with the Email Security Update, you can't even save the attachment elsewhere, or open it or forward it to someone else. See http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#attsec.
Slashdot Mirror
Don't ask me why I'm bothering to respond to such a moronic post, but if someone's really looking to for a proof-of-concept application for .NET, they can check out http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/compare/ to see how Oracle's benchmarks for their implementation of Sun's own J2EE blueprint Java Pet Store application were destroyed by rewriting it as a .NET app in C#. The performance improved by a factor of 28 in a fraction of the code. Oh yeah, Oracle supposedly rewrote their implementation in response, but curiously won't release the details about how they did it. How convenient. :)
I'm beginning to feel a little sorry for people who are Windows boosters. Where do they go for their community?
Umm, that's about as useful as having meetings for non-alcoholics, non-Mensa qualifier get-togethers, or picnics for people who don't run marathons. Try looking into the majority/minority dynamic sometime. See, there's no need to seek out fellow Windows users when practically anybody can give 10 friends a call and 9 of them will have some Windows experience. C'mon chrisd, do try harder next time.
"Would you like some open source fries with that?" :)
I'm waiting for the day that you have to pay to watch streaming content on the web.
Well, you'll either pay for it or watch ads during the content. Did you think all that bandwidth was free? Or that content providers were just going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts for you, because they think you're just such a special guy?
It's people like you who put Netscape where it is today. While MS was improving IE, you and your ilk were sitting around saying, "Hey, it's okay that Netscape munges tables and needs to reload everything if I *gasp* resize the page -- everyone should support them because they're not Microsoft!" Keep supporting screw-ups just because you hate their enemy and you'll ensure that they always remain screw-ups, because the only thing they need to do to retain that particular business model for a while is to not be bought out by said enemy -- that is, until they finally go out of business because people couldn't take the crappiness anymore.
Oh, and this is coming from someone who prefers Windows Media Player 8, hates all versions of QuickTime, and is happy enough with Real to be a GoldPass subscriber ('though not a Real One subscriber, although that's the player I use for Real now). And call me crazy, but I let them bill me every month because the service they provide is worth it to me, not because they ain't Microsoft.
Linux really doesn't impress me, but if I was into that whole GPL philosophy, it seems like Linux would be an easy choice over Hurd, which seems pretty far behind. Can a Hurd supporter give a couple of reasons why anyone would choose Hurd over Linux?
So if you agree with me that it doesn't make sense for them to offer just any old x86 operating system out there for pre-install, explain why it is they should make a special case for Linux when it's only accounting for 0.24% of the userbase.
This doesn't even address the extra huge support costs associated with offering additional operating systems, especially Linux, since these companies don't just throw systems out there and refuse to support them.
Can you say, "It doesn't make economical sense to disrupt our assembly line to produce a different kind of machine when only 0.24% of customers want it."? I knew you could. Now, can you blame them?
Did you know that one in five new desktop computers have Linux? How do I know this? Well, Google tells us that 4% of its visitors use XP, 1% Linux. We can assume that all of these are relatively new users, so therefore 1 in five of new desktop computers are Linux. Of course this is crap too, but it shows you can distort stats to prove whatever you want, and I am sure that MS are a master of this.
Well, the main reason it's crap is because you grossly misinterpreted it. :) You'd be correct to assume that the XP numbers are tracking relatively new users, but that certainly wouldn't be the case with Linux. So in other words, what the numbers say is that XP, which during the period of the survey had only been released for 1 month and 6 days (and even then only the client version, not the server version), already had 4 times the total number of users that Linux did. Ouch...
A: Nobody cares.
SAN DIEGO, Dec. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- WebSideStory, Inc. ( www.websidestory.com ), the world's leading provider of outsourced e-business intelligence services, today reported that despite much hype and expectation in recent years, Linux has failed to gain market share from Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) and Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) operating systems. As of December 17, 2001, Linux held a global usage share of only 0.24 percent, according to WebSideStory's StatMarket ( www.statmarket.com ), a Web development optimization service and the leading source for data on global Internet user trends. This compares with Microsoft's Windows and Apple's Macintosh operating systems, which hold a combined global usage share of more than 98 percent. For almost three years, Linux usage share has fluctuated between .2 and .3 percent, with no substantial growth. Usage share is the percentage of Internet surfers that are using a particular operating system.
Every Nintendo apologist always brings up this Walmart thing, but they coincidentally never give a source. Know why? 'Cause it's bogus. Where in this article's numbers did they say that Walmart figures were excluded?
It's even simpler than that, and you don't have to trust the survey at all, just Nintendo's own numbers. Nintendo came out with a press release saying that as of December 14, they had sold 802,000 GameCubes throughout the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. That's about 200,000 per week. This survey says that they sold 602,000 GameCubes as of December 8. Note the dates and the numbers. Just about one week. 200,000 sales. Ya know, kinda like the 200,000 per week that Nintendo claimed they had been selling?
So for the love of God, will you guys please quit bringing up this completely false issue of Walmart? Besides, you'll just end up making the Nintendo look like it's doing even worse against the Xbox. Because if Walmart were really excluded from the numbers, than while Nintendo claims that they've sold 802,000 as of December 14, then Microsoft already sold 934,000 by December 8th, not even including your precious Walmart numbers. With the so-called absent Walmart numbers, Microsoft would then easily be over the 1-million sold mark for Xboxes.
Nintendo said that they'd sold 802,000 GameCubes in the U.S., Mexico, and Canada as of December 14. That's a rate of about 200,000 per week. Seeing as this particular survey says they sold 602,000 as of December 8, about a week later, it sounds pretty dang reasonable to me. Care to rethink your anger?
The thing that amuses me is that both MS and Nintendo were claiming to be on top of the pile at their launch and here neither were. Ah, have to love true just desserts.
The thing that really amuses me is that you're acting all smug but you don't even realize that the time period that you yourself quoted gave the PS2 and extra four days of sales over the Xbox, which wasn't released until 4 days into this particular survey. So while the PS2 sold an average of 34.4 thousand units during the days it was available, the Xbox sold an average of 38.9 thousand per day while it was available. Ah, have to love true just desserts. :)
Considering Nintendo sold their entire 750,000 first shipment in the FIRST WEEK of release. That article is stating they only sold 602,000 in *4* weeks which is WAY WAY off.
Considering that on December 14, Nintendo itself put out a press release stating that it had sold about 800,000 GameCubes from the U.S., Canada, and Mexico combined, I'd have to draw the conclusion that you're completely full of shit.
Funny, your post doesn't address what I was saying whatsoever. As for the point you brought up, I'm assuming that you're not American, but we've got libel laws over here. If Microsoft is lying, Lineo can sue them. Do they do that? Nope, they just produced a bunch of hot air. Time to put up or shut up.
Far be it from me to point at that you seem like a clueless, knee-jerk Linux zealot who loves to feel persecuted by Microsoft, but...
If you go to http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Embedded/xp/evalu ation/compare/notwindriver.asp, you'll see that they have the exact same type of article discussing Wind River. Gee, and it's even titled "Why Microsoft Windows XP Embedded and Not Wind River." Truly amazing. Sorry if I ruined your persecution complex. :)
Actually, the truth of the matter is, what else are they going to use? Linux? Well no, we're looking for something secure, not with something needing more security patches than Windows. More difficult to use plus more insecure plus poor software choices isn't exactly a winning combination. Macs? That'd be the top alternative, but it's kind of hard to justify Mac prices when they're so limited power-wise and software-wise compared to Windows PCs. And that's why people prefer Windows.
I hope all the Dmitry supporters are pleased that he's shown himself to be a backstabbing rat. Anybody want to take bets on how long it takes before a Russian investor of ElcomSoft decides to corner him on some cold winter's night and puts a bullet in the back of his head? :)
They now have email addresses (read: 'sales leads') for a BUNCH of folks.
Nooooo!!! Not <gasp> E-MAIL ADDRESSES!!!!
Dude, get a clue already. How many games have you bought because someone sent you an email?
No offense, although I'd understand if you took it that way, but you seem to be one of those types of people whose primary interest seems to be building up his or her own little (or large) cult of fanboys. Just as Nick Petreley and Mary Jo Foley seemed to adopt a life goal of being heroes of Microsoft-haters everywhere, it seems like you also crave the adulation of a similar niche. A bit broader than the Microsoft-hater group, albeit with a big overlap, but also including a lot of the "Information wants to be free, d00d!" crowd.
Basically, I'm just curious (and I'd love to know how Nick and Mary Jo feel as well) if you really find such a position to be very satisfying. On the outside looking in at the situation, I'd have to say that it always reminds me of that great Anthony Michael Hall line from "Sixteen Candles," the one about being "King of the dipshits" and whatnot. That ring any bells?
VA Linux is perhaps an under-performer, but the general trends can be seen in all the graphs.
Um, during the lifetime of the LNUX vs. MSFT chart that you chose, a quick eyeballing shows MSFT to have gone up about 25% and LNUX has gone down about 55%. What's the particular trend that you're referring to?
Unless, of course, you mean that the trend itself is that MSFT is on an upward path and LNUX is on a downward path, which does seem to be what the future holds. I just thought you were referring to something else.
Things like this, the whole digital-anarchist/netizen/dig-my-meme garbage, is precisely why I stopped subscribing to Wired within a couple of years of it starting out. "Transcending dogma and cant?" Give me a freakin' break, man.
And people wonder why I use Eudora?
Yes, I wonder. How would using Eudora instead of Outlook have offered you any more protection from something like this?
Au contraire, mon frere! Just go to http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/getexe.htm #ol2002 and get the registry-editing instructions or downloadable tools to let you determine the Outlook 2000/2002 (XP) security settings on any type of file you want. I recommend the "Attachment Security Options" tool, myself.
Nope. With Outlook 2002 (XP), Outlook 2000 with SP2, or Outlook 98 or 2000 with the Email Security Update, you can't even save the attachment elsewhere, or open it or forward it to someone else. See http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#attsec .