good point, I guess I didn't think before I posted. I run courier-imap at home, and view it via Squirrelmail everywhere (work/home/coffee shops). for me it beats anything since I never have to sync mail clients on diff machines (I have a desktop at home, work, and a laptop that I use both places, and other places) so the web based just seems like it has the smallest footprint. to each his own though, I know you can't sort by thread for mailing list in SM, like you can in most clients, as well as some web based, like horde/imp.
blah! a 'back to the future' ref, thanks, I'll spend the rest of the day trying to forget that.
but you understand my point, the mail 'stays' on the server, even if the client has to 'transmit' the data so you can view it. I still find this to be a much simpiler solution; do you want to run backups on your mailserver, or on your mailserver and all of your clients that may/may not have the mail as up to date as the server. seems ineficient.
CB
Re:beats the hell outta sendmail...
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Funny, I used that exact same thread! between the Gentoo HOWTO pages, and the forums, setting up postfix was simple. Glad others are having the same experience.
as for 'next generation' mail clients, I continue to think web based clients should be considered. why continue to spread the burden of email from server -> client, when a web based client only views mail on the server, and doesn't have to transmit/store it.
with clients such as Squirrelmail and Horde/IMP, it seems that this would be the path more in line with the current thinking. I use Squirrelmail, and it does (almost) everything I want. What it doesn't do can be added via modules, or via coding of your own modules (which I'm working on now).
Thanks for making these points, and you're correct, in the end, you find a distro that suits you, and Gentoo suits me. I started with RH 5.0, and have been through Mandrake, Slackware, Vectorlinux, Debian and finally Gentoo. For me, it's the best. I don't use it b/c I think it's the fastest, however studies show that it actually may be faster, if you config/compile things a certain way.
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/performance.xml
As for everyone screaming "Gentoo Fanboy!", they shouldn't be allowed to pass judgement without using it, else they sound like lemmings.
beats the hell outta sendmail...
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after admin'ing sendmail for two years, I switched to Postfix a month ago, and wow, what a difference. recommended, and I'd think a book would only be needed for someone that was deploying this in a large organization.
After growing up in St. Louis, I practically grew up on AB beers. once I moved away I started drinking brewpub beers, and then started home brewing myself. after that I had a sense and appreciation for good beer, and now the only time I drink Bud is if I'm visiting STL. it's like drinking water now; you can't taste the hops or anything like you can in a good/well made beer.
right, and the AMD64 based notebooks will likely have as much, or more (depending on Job's spin) power than Apple's. then they'll bring up the, you can't run OS X on AMD, so Apple is still the best choice!
is anyone using this in a large professional setting? I've been tasked with rebuilding the CVS server at my gig, and I'm almost done, but how hard would it be to convert and existing CVS repository over? I will be testing the setup for a few weeks after install, so this may be a good time to try out Subversion. anyone with exp please share your thoughts. tia
At least it was back when I played, before UO sucked.:)
you're telling me! after laying off the support group I was in I was offered a job in the UO phone support! uggg, I was in that for a week, and then I found a better offer. ppl would call and scream that someone stole their white horse, and all we could say is, "we can only help you with problems running the game, not in game problems". you'd get some deadly silence, then they'd lay into you.
Why do we use Perl every day? Because Perl scales to solve both small and large problems. Unlike languages like C, C++, and Java, Perl allows us to write small, trivial programs quickly and easily, without sacrificing the ability to build large applications and systems. The skills and tools we use on large projects are also available when we write small programs.
I'm not a Perl hacker by any means, but after the possibilities are endless, and I don't think Perl will ever die.
What was it, Ultima 2 that had a "Mandrake root" in it? I think it healed you or something...regardless, Origin could have sued Mandrake then! people were confused; they didn't know if Mandrake was a Linux distro or a healing plant!
this is getting ridiculous! I don't really love the name Firefox, but at least Mozilla went to the trouble of Trademarking the name before announcing and using it. this should be a wake-up call to ANYONE starting a company or software project; do your homework before settling on a name.
Here, here! for my 35th bday yesterday I got Midway arcade classics and Sands Of Time. And yeah, I play Mario Cart: double dash with my daughter (3 1/2) and my wife (3 players at a time). my son is only 1, so we don't need a fourth countroller...yet! when the kiddos go to bed I throw down with Viewtiful Joe, or the fun Burnout2. Sands of Time and Splinter Cell are my next games on the list, meanwhile I'll look around for some more kid friendly games, but for now, Mario Cart rules.
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I hear ya, the only reason to collect Karma is to burn Karma. I make a sport outta it.
CB
I hope they 'finally' make a Flash plugin for PPC Linux, it's a big whole in my iBook/Linux surfing...
CBV
good point, I guess I didn't think before I posted. I run courier-imap at home, and view it via Squirrelmail everywhere (work/home/coffee shops). for me it beats anything since I never have to sync mail clients on diff machines (I have a desktop at home, work, and a laptop that I use both places, and other places) so the web based just seems like it has the smallest footprint. to each his own though, I know you can't sort by thread for mailing list in SM, like you can in most clients, as well as some web based, like horde/imp.
CB
I wonder if the Mod even understood this? As an old skool Ultima player from the Apple //e days (Ultima IV ruled!) I appreciate this comment.
CB
blah! a 'back to the future' ref, thanks, I'll spend the rest of the day trying to forget that.
but you understand my point, the mail 'stays' on the server, even if the client has to 'transmit' the data so you can view it. I still find this to be a much simpiler solution; do you want to run backups on your mailserver, or on your mailserver and all of your clients that may/may not have the mail as up to date as the server. seems ineficient.
CB
Funny, I used that exact same thread! between the Gentoo HOWTO pages, and the forums, setting up postfix was simple. Glad others are having the same experience.
CB
as for 'next generation' mail clients, I continue to think web based clients should be considered. why continue to spread the burden of email from server -> client, when a web based client only views mail on the server, and doesn't have to transmit/store it.
with clients such as Squirrelmail and Horde/IMP, it seems that this would be the path more in line with the current thinking. I use Squirrelmail, and it does (almost) everything I want. What it doesn't do can be added via modules, or via coding of your own modules (which I'm working on now).
P
Thanks for making these points, and you're correct, in the end, you find a distro that suits you, and Gentoo suits me. I started with RH 5.0, and have been through Mandrake, Slackware, Vectorlinux, Debian and finally Gentoo. For me, it's the best. I don't use it b/c I think it's the fastest, however studies show that it actually may be faster, if you config/compile things a certain way.
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/performance.xml
As for everyone screaming "Gentoo Fanboy!", they shouldn't be allowed to pass judgement without using it, else they sound like lemmings.
CB
What about Blackdown?
CB
after admin'ing sendmail for two years, I switched to Postfix a month ago, and wow, what a difference. recommended, and I'd think a book would only be needed for someone that was deploying this in a large organization.
CB
After growing up in St. Louis, I practically grew up on AB beers. once I moved away I started drinking brewpub beers, and then started home brewing myself. after that I had a sense and appreciation for good beer, and now the only time I drink Bud is if I'm visiting STL. it's like drinking water now; you can't taste the hops or anything like you can in a good/well made beer.
P
right, and the AMD64 based notebooks will likely have as much, or more (depending on Job's spin) power than Apple's. then they'll bring up the, you can't run OS X on AMD, so Apple is still the best choice!
DISCLAIMER: I run Linux on an iBook!
CB
why does this story have a G5 icon, if it's about G4s! I smell a bait and switch in progress...
CB
Ummm...am I on the wrong website?
CB
can this be used with Spamassasin, or is a stand alone program? Does it need something like Amasis to run?
CB
I thought it was called Firefox?
(lame, i know it)
CB
is anyone using this in a large professional setting? I've been tasked with rebuilding the CVS server at my gig, and I'm almost done, but how hard would it be to convert and existing CVS repository over? I will be testing the setup for a few weeks after install, so this may be a good time to try out Subversion. anyone with exp please share your thoughts. tia
CB
At least it was back when I played, before UO sucked. :)
you're telling me! after laying off the support group I was in I was offered a job in the UO phone support! uggg, I was in that for a week, and then I found a better offer. ppl would call and scream that someone stole their white horse, and all we could say is, "we can only help you with problems running the game, not in game problems". you'd get some deadly silence, then they'd lay into you.
CB
Why do we use Perl every day? Because Perl scales to solve both small and large problems. Unlike languages like C, C++, and Java, Perl allows us to write small, trivial programs quickly and easily, without sacrificing the ability to build large applications and systems. The skills and tools we use on large projects are also available when we write small programs.
I'm not a Perl hacker by any means, but after the possibilities are endless, and I don't think Perl will ever die.
CB
What was it, Ultima 2 that had a "Mandrake root" in it? I think it healed you or something...regardless, Origin could have sued Mandrake then! people were confused; they didn't know if Mandrake was a Linux distro or a healing plant!
disclaimer: I used to work at Origin
CB
...or blog.
CB
this is getting ridiculous! I don't really love the name Firefox, but at least Mozilla went to the trouble of Trademarking the name before announcing and using it. this should be a wake-up call to ANYONE starting a company or software project; do your homework before settling on a name.
CB
Here, here! for my 35th bday yesterday I got Midway arcade classics and Sands Of Time. And yeah, I play Mario Cart: double dash with my daughter (3 1/2) and my wife (3 players at a time). my son is only 1, so we don't need a fourth countroller...yet! when the kiddos go to bed I throw down with Viewtiful Joe, or the fun Burnout2. Sands of Time and Splinter Cell are my next games on the list, meanwhile I'll look around for some more kid friendly games, but for now, Mario Cart rules.
CB
hit #y-windows on irc.freenode.net if you want to chat about Y.
CB
yep, that makes less sense, and therefore is the more consistant considering past naming conventions.
or it could be:
yinx (yinx is not x)
for added confusion!
CB