well I centainly cant name a cad that will do OpenGL and video in that is surported under XFree86
am I wrong I heard that people where getting close to a workable solution with the Matrox stuff (marvel product line)
but video in has always been a seperate card
what should you look for in a card ?
1> surport in XFree86 ! (if it has this then pass to No. 2)
2> DRI Acc drawing such as the voodoo 3000 (this will change as more people get involved and codebase grows ATI even say they are going to help 'what was that about cold hell alan ?;)
3>DMI basicaly the digital conector that is going on all 810e MoBo's and all LCD monitor manufacters have pledged to support (their is hope because there is so few of them it is harder for them to disagree)
my thoughts
personally I am buying a SGI LCD soon even though its not the best. No.9 have said they will make sure linux is supported and well you can stick it on a hinge so it dosent have to take up desk space and can just float and it looks cool and and.. I want one its not rational I know !
TNT have been looking good helped by yep SGI so linux surport WILL be there
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
THANK YOU epic for provideing linux with more games (even if only because the other company did so)
BIG shout to all hackers being paid to do this respect
Now what can we give ? simple realy go buy the game publishers see one thing the tally. if the money to create it happens to be more than the money (revenue) that was gained they are not going to do it again !!
BUY UT it is a very good game
what can they give us ? well the engine was @ the forefront but it still uses SPRIT's and just uses the ol turn them to face the view trick to graphically 'I' dont like the engine thats not to say it has very good points I just hate it for that
BUT it DOES do SOUND well !! V. Good sound now if they got hafe of what was working under WIN32 under linux that would be Great
I am intrested to see how they hacked this and how they pipe sound out what interfaces they use this is one thing DirectX has over OpenGL and Mesa is that Dinput and sound has one API I am not aware of a standard way of doing it under *n*x
anyway
cheers
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
I use notes extensively where I work (design micro processors )
now this is great and we are moveing domino from NT to solaris WHY ?
because the same code is used under all of the servers on all of the platforms !! (yes there will be a small No. of native hooks but Lotus trying to keep them small)
but @ the moment all the linux dev workers have to use WINE to use it because the CLIENT is still windows only
so wheres the CLIENT
we will pay !! Lotus are you there PAY MONEY FOR LINUX VERSION , LOTS OF GREEN, LOTUS FOR LINUX !!
cheers
john hope they listen jones
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
let me say this I pay for surport and equitment and not software anymore OK !
gcc is the fundermental backbone of free software
lets remind people what it stands for "GNU Compiler Collection"
Yep its more than C now Big Boys dont like to do their dev work out in the open because they dont want to show whats going on ask marketing peoples about why, thats just a fact ! (GPL allows for this I know)
Big boys (and girls like HP) like gcc @ the moment beacuse it is the standard what we must not let happen is that they stop paying Cygnus to develope new GCC back ends to their hardware beacuse they are AFRAID of Redhat getting the advantage.
If the people shy away then Cygnus will lose revenue and find most of the developers walk exiting project elsewhere and the lure of money the reason why alot of people want to work for them is that they are on the cutting edge working on things like Sony PS2 (whose dev env is linux because of gcc and more stable haha) this is why they get people.
Without people a company is nothing !
Cygnus has lots of effort invested in the embedded market this can not be allowed to be wasted otherwise people (partners and staff) will walk.
Redhat had better make it clear to Cygnus partners that its work as useal and more funding to do better work and no change in direction of licenceing.
my thoughts
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
so am I right in thinking if you wanted to port KDE to a non X based windowing system you would need to port a chunk of X the libICE and so on ??
this seems mad to me ! (of course mad things go down well sometimes, ugly shaped blue machines sell who would have thought that ! buy an SGI and see colour)
linux and hurd and Mach and... I would like to write my app and it work in all windowing systems without to much hassle
I like X but what happens when we slowly convert to X12 ? or berlin takes off ? or want to write apps for MAC OS 10 (knowen as macosX now)
confused
john a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
"kdelibs is frozen. This means that you should not introduce any changes to the API of kdelibs.
kdebase and koffice is feature frozen. This means that you should try to concentrate on bugfixing and getting the basic functionality to work correctly.
On 15 dec we will release. Make sure the important things work by then. It's up to you to decide what is important. "
Koffice looking good how about porting the functions to a GTK front end ? (GTK is nier the QT because I like to give windows(the microkernel one) a chance to use my apps QT makes you pay to use under windows
full respect to the KDE team !
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
NO CORBA !!! what where they thinking
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KDE 2.0 in Action
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DCOP IPC ! IPC done whithout a standard corba is a nightmare yes you can do it and yes you can make programing easyer wich is why they are doing it I surpose
BUT its incompatable nightmare and the only thing that would save it would be Koffice and the fact its open source (easy to change the whole thing write bridges and such)
IPC is for people who are speed freaks (im talking Cray people money to burn on development)
WHY NO CORBA ??
this is what Corba was designed to do and very well to it makes runing services easy and abstract ie you may run it where you like a server in hong kong or on your laptop and you dont have to worry because it was a standard thats why they where useing Mico
there where lots of flames and I read them and they seemed to say DCOP would be complemtry and you need an ORB DCOP would help speed things up relieing on the X way of doing things
am I wrong ?
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
I hope that they have improved the speed the the xlib thingmy (sorry dont know its name) the ORB they where useing before was not speedy to say the least (MICO) they should try OMNIORB from at&t research in cambridge (yes the real cambridge)
lets face it Desktop will not run well on a 486 let alone a P90
stick to the command line boys and girls anddont moan you can do everything there that you want to (vi rules;-)
THemes can you drag KDE to GTK ? (or the other way around)
vector surport I saw Koffice had some vector surport in it GNOME lacks this PDF reading KDE has a pants one GNOME is good @ this (thanks !!)
pilot stuff hope thats improved !
overall I like what KDE is doing
KEEP GOING !!
peace
john
out
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
now sun have the money and the time maybe they are testing it ??
or then again maybe it was such a hack that they would not be able to ship it ontime without comeing under lots of crititism
anyway delays to products are good (in a sense) it shows that people are thinking esp now SUN have got hold of it there would have been a running round in circles "we made lots of money" time when they should have been coding
time is of course relitve to what you measure it by !
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
sorry I was @ work and I know that alot of people where not familer with HP and IA64 I was trying to point out the fact that HP worked on IA64 more than intel have done most of the research has been done with them
its intresting to notice that alot of DATA centers where they process data run HP PA-RISC and HP-UX
HP-UX is a dog just because you find that nothing you would think would be standard is the manual might as well read
THE STANDARD IS... but it was SLOW so we did THIS...
which has been Ported to LINUX now you too can mess with compilers !
I am under NDA over the compiler but I can tell you that they have been very clever with the registers makeing full use of the hardware and that A) the compiler sees most of what the programer wants to do so can preform most of the checking
B) the hardware has good V. good prediction built in and the compiler tells it what it thinks is going to happen
the compiler is the most important part of the system this was learnt from OS2 and from GCC how much does the GNU Compiler Collection get used !!
regards
john
(bit upset about the troll)
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
rendering stuff underlinux has been done for a long time because its fast
modeling under linux is going to be slow without proper hardware and so you again are limited to venders of machines and their surport for an OS hmm why do people use IRIX and NT ?
yes I am talking more about CGG than pure CAD which modeling non animated structures
MAYA !! thats what we want !
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
AND I got the installer to work and then it died basically I had to use win95 install files to get it to work the dll's were not in WINE yet
this is great if you have win95 but I don't (@ work I have NT )so yeah it works sort of but considering that they have a client (not all the features) for solaris on sparc hardware
wheres the linux one ???
(please please use GTK no more athena widgets widgets widgets oh my ! sorry wi£^"^ dont get me started )
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
great piece of reverse engineering those actualy comitting code can brag for the rest of their lives those that moan shall....
(bug reporting involes actualy finding out exactly whats wrong)
>>>ALOT of the software that runs on windows is only there because of the market demanded it now its their to stay
>>>Groupware big word but LOTUS ownes this and the server runs on linux and solaris and AS400 and whatever BUT the client still has way to many win32 Hooks in it for them to easily port it (WAKE UP I WILL PAY LOADS OF MONEY FOR IT LOTUS)
these are all I use windows for
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
there was no mention of cross platform nature of GTK or gnome
I would like to know how distributed GNOME can get corba allows things to be placed any compont on differant systems
I understand that GNOME used a file instead of doing things so that they may be located on machines across the network has this changed ?
alot can be learned from microsoft's experances with the registery ! It seems that @ the moment the idea of a sudo registery to aid install and management in large role outs is sort of tacked on the end, are people actualy takeing this seriously ??
in order to convince people at my UNI remote admin through a simple interface so that people have only to do so much customisation to achive a look and feel of enviroment is standard.
fo instance a machine on an Arts course would like all options on the GIMP while a Software Engineering course would prefer that GIMP and funky things be hidden and Documentation for codeing be very apparnt much can be learned from the way windows 2000 regitery is set up and why it is that way. They have had alot of problems achiveing a dynamic desktop acording to the user and not the machine.
also no word on what GTK port to windows and wether parts of code would be able to run on windows or any other O/S due to corba
overall I would like to comend Mr H. Pennington on his answers
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
intel did the PR rounds for NGIO then it seemed to die can anyone show me any resources ??
it seemed a very clever way to get round bus bandwidth problems this after all has ben the major limiting factor in machines (and the reason why SGI machines are so damn fast)
I did not relise that 64 bit PCI was open !
if you can as I remember plug in 32bit standard PCI cards and use 64 where you have them why havnt people been pushing this ? MB manufacturers are always looking to get one step ahead of the crowd this seems to be a way !!
or arent people doing the core logic ?
whats going on ??
I hope NGIO does not die it looked very tasty
regards
john
p.s. thank you for your clarity over 64 bit PCI
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
hmm everyone seems to say copper is good but I don't see any specs
I saw in a microprocessor report that silicon on insulator gave a 35% boost
is this true ?
I know that the G5 is surposed to use it who do you pay in order to use this ? (who owns the method to do SOI ?) The important thing to notice is that these companies want to replace PCI with some non open royalty paying standard like PCI64 instead Intel are doing the_right_thing and making NGIO open so don't go saying that they are good just because you want proprietary stuff.
Me I thank Intel ISA is no longer on any machines that come in.
Cheers
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
first of I would like to thank the team @ SGI !!!!
ok down to it
jessie is an IDE ? last time I looked it was a very nice debugger and performance tweaking tool!
what needs to be expanded well I write lots of different code and I wonder if you can have MULTIPLE windows of code this is a MUST in any IDE ! why do you think most system Admin open many xterms sure they could just use the console switching but being able to look @ lots of thinks @ once helps
UML ugly I know but how about actually designing software. Shocking I know but few of us have to sit down with a pen with a linux box while in windows the tools are there. I am sure that there is an open source UML tool somewhere but where ? and being in Java would help Jessie.
if its an IDE how about syntax checking and autocompletion.
and how about running a tool to produce documentation there are several javaDoc is good and I know their is an open one for C and C++ how about letting us produce decent documentation (a help browser would be nice could be a HTML help if using 1.2 but then that's one for the team)
these are ideas SO WHATS WRONG ?
lastly thank you to Bill and the team @ SGI who work on linux as aposed to just sell it fund them buy SGI next time I know I will.
Regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
bonoboo are ape like creature that tends to stand on their hind legs researchers where shocked to find that they also display tool makeing abilitys
research into skull stucture is ongoing but is happered by the no of animals
what is worrying is that these are not protected by copyright and lets say that they are the same as one of our distent ancestors then research on these could yeild alot of answers now you no longer hae to have a large population for testing these will become viable for large companys if only to find out the imuno responces of the animal and see the differance between this and us.
the real money is infact in bacteria where you may patent.
DID you know that as much 50% of your genome is the same as a banana - steve jones
regards
john
p.s. its late, rambleing sorry
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
Slashdot Mirror
what you should be doing is looking @ the ARM arch !
yes rebel and netwinder but thats not all ARM do !
think of all those 3com NIC's they all have ARM inside
INTEL have payed money and I wonder what intels SOC chip is going to be based on (-;
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
well I centainly cant name a cad that will do OpenGL and video in that is surported under XFree86
.. I want one its not rational I know !
am I wrong I heard that people where getting close to a workable solution with the Matrox stuff (marvel product line)
but video in has always been a seperate card
what should you look for in a card ?
1> surport in XFree86 !
(if it has this then pass to No. 2)
2> DRI Acc drawing such as the voodoo 3000
(this will change as more people get involved and codebase grows ATI even say they are going to help 'what was that about cold hell alan ?;)
3>DMI basicaly the digital conector that is going on all 810e MoBo's and all LCD monitor manufacters have pledged to support
(their is hope because there is so few of them it is harder for them to disagree)
my thoughts
personally I am buying a SGI LCD soon even though its not the best. No.9 have said they will make sure linux is supported and well you can stick it on a hinge so it dosent have to take up desk space and can just float and it looks cool and and
TNT have been looking good helped by yep SGI so linux surport WILL be there
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
Um first of all
THANK YOU epic for provideing linux with more games
(even if only because the other company did so)
BIG shout to all hackers being paid to do this respect
Now what can we give ?
simple realy go buy the game publishers see one thing the tally.
if the money to create it happens to be more than the money (revenue) that was gained they are not going to do it again !!
BUY UT it is a very good game
what can they give us ?
well the engine was @ the forefront but it still uses SPRIT's and just uses the ol turn them to face the view trick to graphically 'I' dont like the engine thats not to say it has very good points I just hate it for that
BUT it DOES do SOUND well !! V. Good sound now if they got hafe of what was working under WIN32 under linux that would be Great
I am intrested to see how they hacked this and how they pipe sound out what interfaces they use this is one thing DirectX has over OpenGL and Mesa is that Dinput and sound has one API I am not aware of a standard way of doing it under *n*x
anyway
cheers
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
this is great THANK YOU LOTUS
I use notes extensively where I work (design micro processors )
now this is great and we are moveing domino from NT to solaris WHY ?
because the same code is used under all of the servers on all of the platforms !!
(yes there will be a small No. of native hooks but Lotus trying to keep them small)
but @ the moment all the linux dev workers have to use WINE to use it because the CLIENT is still windows only
so wheres the CLIENT
we will pay !! Lotus are you there PAY MONEY FOR LINUX VERSION ,
LOTS OF GREEN, LOTUS FOR LINUX !!
cheers
john hope they listen jones
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
let me say this I pay for surport and equitment and not software anymore OK !
gcc is the fundermental backbone of free software
lets remind people what it stands for "GNU Compiler Collection"
Yep its more than C now
Big Boys dont like to do their dev work out in the open because they dont want to show whats going on ask marketing peoples about why, thats just a fact !
(GPL allows for this I know)
Big boys (and girls like HP) like gcc @ the moment beacuse it is the standard what we must not let happen is that they stop paying Cygnus to develope new GCC back ends to their hardware beacuse they are AFRAID of Redhat getting the advantage.
If the people shy away then Cygnus will lose revenue and find most of the developers walk exiting project elsewhere and the lure of money the reason why alot of people want to work for them is that they are on the cutting edge working on things like Sony PS2 (whose dev env is linux because of gcc and more stable haha) this is why they get people.
Without people a company is nothing !
Cygnus has lots of effort invested in the embedded market this can not be allowed to be wasted otherwise people (partners and staff) will walk.
Redhat had better make it clear to Cygnus partners that its work as useal and more funding to do better work and no change in direction of licenceing.
my thoughts
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
I admit it I DONT KNOW
... I would like to write my app and it work in all windowing systems without to much hassle
so am I right in thinking if you wanted to port KDE to a non X based windowing system you would need to port a chunk of X the libICE and so on ??
this seems mad to me !
(of course mad things go down well sometimes, ugly shaped blue machines sell who would have thought that ! buy an SGI and see colour)
linux and hurd and Mach and
I like X but what happens when we slowly convert to X12 ? or berlin takes off ? or want to write apps for MAC OS 10 (knowen as macosX now)
confused
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
"kdelibs is frozen. This means that you should not introduce any changes to the API of kdelibs.
kdebase and koffice is feature frozen. This means that you should try to concentrate on bugfixing and getting the basic functionality to work correctly.
On 15 dec we will release. Make sure the important things work by then. It's up to you to decide what is important. "
quote from KDE news
Koffice looking good how about porting the functions to a GTK front end ? (GTK is nier the QT because I like to give windows(the microkernel one) a chance to use my apps QT makes you pay to use under windows
full respect to the KDE team !
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
DCOP IPC !
IPC done whithout a standard corba is a nightmare yes you can do it and yes you can make programing easyer wich is why they are doing it I surpose
BUT its incompatable nightmare and the only thing that would save it would be Koffice and the fact its open source (easy to change the whole thing write bridges and such)
IPC is for people who are speed freaks (im talking Cray people money to burn on development)
WHY NO CORBA ??
this is what Corba was designed to do and very well to it makes runing services easy and abstract ie you may run it where you like a server in hong kong or on your laptop and you dont have to worry because it was a standard thats why they where useing Mico
there where lots of flames and I read them and they seemed to say DCOP would be complemtry and you need an ORB DCOP would help speed things up relieing on the X way of doing things
am I wrong ?
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
I hope that they have improved the speed the the xlib thingmy (sorry dont know its name) the ORB they where useing before was not speedy to say the least (MICO) they should try OMNIORB from at&t research in cambridge (yes the real cambridge)
;-)
lets face it Desktop will not run well on a 486 let alone a P90
stick to the command line boys and girls anddont moan you can do everything there that you want to (vi rules
THemes can you drag KDE to GTK ?
(or the other way around)
vector surport I saw Koffice had some vector surport in it GNOME lacks this
PDF reading KDE has a pants one GNOME is good @ this (thanks !!)
pilot stuff hope thats improved !
overall I like what KDE is doing
KEEP GOING !!
peace
john
out
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
good question how open are these are they going to release how the low level calls are made ?
some how they are trying to fudge it not the 3Dfx developers but the managers
often giveing out specs is hard because they are hard to seprate from what you would want to keep out of the public domain for your own safety
WAY TO GO for useing the DRI though !!
DRI means windows and not just full screen so bring on MAYA !
a BIG THANK YOU to the grunts testing and moaning in 3Dfx to do this right !!
peace
john
out
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
now sun have the money and the time maybe they are testing it ??
or then again maybe it was such a hack that they would not be able to ship it ontime without comeing under lots of crititism
anyway delays to products are good (in a sense) it shows that people are thinking esp now SUN have got hold of it there would have been a running round in circles "we made lots of money" time when they should have been coding
time is of course relitve to what you measure it by !
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
all it takes ...
... but it was SLOW so we did THIS ...
sorry I was @ work and I know that alot of people where not familer with HP and IA64 I was trying to point out the fact that HP worked on IA64 more than intel have done most of the research has been done with them
its intresting to notice that alot of DATA centers where they process data run HP PA-RISC and HP-UX
HP-UX is a dog just because you find that nothing you would think would be standard is the manual might as well read
THE STANDARD IS
a good referance is the trimaran project
http://www.trimaran.org/
which has been Ported to LINUX now you too can mess with compilers !
I am under NDA over the compiler but I can tell you that they have been very clever with the registers makeing full use of the hardware and that
A) the compiler sees most of what the programer wants to do so can preform most of the checking
B) the hardware has good V. good prediction built in and the compiler tells it what it thinks is going to happen
the compiler is the most important part of the system this was learnt from OS2 and from GCC how much does the GNU Compiler Collection get used !!
regards
john
(bit upset about the troll)
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
umm yeah great but HP did IA64 and most of it was involveing the compiler
trust me IA64 compiler rocks
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
spot on
gCAD updated their website !
last I heard they had got their mits on alphas then they seemed to stop useing the website (-;
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
damn right !!
good LINKS !!!
respect
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
rendering stuff underlinux has been done for a long time because its fast
modeling under linux is going to be slow without proper hardware and so you again are limited to venders of machines and their surport for an OS hmm why do people use IRIX and NT ?
yes I am talking more about CGG than pure CAD which modeling non animated structures
MAYA !! thats what we want !
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
yeah I did this
AND I got the installer to work and then it died basically I had to use win95 install files to get it to work the dll's were not in WINE yet
this is great if you have win95 but I don't (@ work I have NT )so yeah it works sort of but considering that they have a client (not all the features) for solaris on sparc hardware
wheres the linux one ???
(please please use GTK no more athena widgets widgets widgets oh my ! sorry wi£^"^ dont get me started )
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
Wine hmm
....
great piece of reverse engineering those actualy comitting code can brag for the rest of their lives those that moan shall
(bug reporting involes actualy finding out exactly whats wrong)
>>>ALOT of the software that runs on windows is only there because of the market demanded it now its their to stay
>>>Groupware big word but LOTUS ownes this and the server runs on linux and solaris and AS400 and whatever BUT the client still has way to many win32 Hooks in it for them to easily port it
(WAKE UP I WILL PAY LOADS OF MONEY FOR IT LOTUS)
these are all I use windows for
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
i'm fed up of this
its for this > its for that
they are produceing a system that runs a code template !
(if you dont know work out how you can add ppc to a AS400 and not recompile)
the product will have multithreading in
OK
peace enough of this guessing
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
I am reminded about
IBM and the short sighted rihno
linux surport people watch out
peace
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
there was no mention of cross platform nature of GTK or gnome
I would like to know how distributed GNOME can get corba allows things to be placed any compont on differant systems
I understand that GNOME used a file instead of doing things so that they may be located on machines across the network has this changed ?
alot can be learned from microsoft's experances with the registery !
It seems that @ the moment the idea of a sudo registery to aid install and management in large role outs is sort of tacked on the end, are people actualy takeing this seriously ??
in order to convince people at my UNI remote admin through a simple interface so that people have only to do so much customisation to achive a look and feel of enviroment is standard.
fo instance a machine on an Arts course would like all options on the GIMP while a Software Engineering course would prefer that GIMP and funky things be hidden and Documentation for codeing be very apparnt much can be learned from the way windows 2000 regitery is set up and why it is that way. They have had alot of problems achiveing a dynamic desktop acording to the user and not the machine.
also no word on what GTK port to windows and wether parts of code would be able to run on windows or any other O/S due to corba
overall I would like to comend Mr H. Pennington on his answers
regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
intel did the PR rounds for NGIO then it seemed to die can anyone show me any resources ??
it seemed a very clever way to get round bus bandwidth problems this after all has ben the major limiting factor in machines (and the reason why SGI machines are so damn fast)
I did not relise that 64 bit PCI was open !
if you can as I remember plug in 32bit standard PCI cards and use 64 where you have them why havnt people been pushing this ? MB manufacturers are always looking to get one step ahead of the crowd this seems to be a way !!
or arent people doing the core logic ?
whats going on ??
I hope NGIO does not die it looked very tasty
regards
john
p.s. thank you for your clarity over 64 bit PCI
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
hmm everyone seems to say copper is good but I don't see any specs
I saw in a microprocessor report that silicon on insulator gave a 35% boost
is this true ?
I know that the G5 is surposed to use it who do you pay in order to use this ? (who owns the method to do SOI ?)
The important thing to notice is that these companies want to replace PCI with some non open royalty paying standard like PCI64 instead Intel are doing the_right_thing and making NGIO open
so don't go saying that they are good just because you want proprietary stuff.
Me I thank Intel ISA is no longer on any machines that come in.
Cheers
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
first of I would like to thank the team @ SGI !!!!
ok down to it
jessie is an IDE ? last time I looked it was a very nice debugger and performance tweaking tool!
what needs to be expanded well I write lots of different code and I wonder if you can have MULTIPLE windows of code this is a MUST in any IDE ! why do you think most system Admin open many xterms sure they could just use the console switching but being able to look @ lots of thinks @ once helps
UML ugly I know but how about actually designing software. Shocking I know but few of us have to sit down with a pen with a linux box while in windows the tools are there. I am sure that there is an open source UML tool somewhere but where ? and being in Java would help Jessie.
if its an IDE how about syntax checking and autocompletion.
and how about running a tool to produce documentation there are several javaDoc is good and I know their is an open one for C and C++ how about letting us produce decent documentation (a help browser would be nice could be a HTML help if using 1.2 but then that's one for the team)
these are ideas SO WHATS WRONG ?
lastly thank you to Bill and the team @ SGI who work on linux as aposed to just sell it fund them buy SGI next time I know I will.
Regards
john
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
bonoboo are ape like creature that tends to stand on their hind legs researchers where shocked to find that they also display tool makeing abilitys
research into skull stucture is ongoing but is happered by the no of animals
what is worrying is that these are not protected by copyright and lets say that they are the same as one of our distent ancestors then research on these could yeild alot of answers now you no longer hae to have a large population for testing these will become viable for large companys if only to find out the imuno responces of the animal and see the differance between this and us.
the real money is infact in bacteria where you may patent.
DID you know that as much 50% of your genome is the same as a banana - steve jones
regards
john
p.s. its late, rambleing sorry
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)