People have been criticizing Google based on "what if" scenarios for years now.
But the reality is that it would only take 1 single case of Google digging into someone's private data (ie. unencrypting private data) and the media would jump on it and google would lose 90% of its business almost overnight.
That doesn't make them safe, but I really cant see why Google would want to take that risk.
People know that Google use their data for the purposes of profiling them and re-using the data in targetted advertising, and most people are ok with that part.
Google are a marketing company and they wouldn't have the customer-base they have if they weren't trustworthy. Like I said, it only takes one breach of trust for Google to lose everything they have. If they act within their T&C's and privacy policy, then that does not constitute a breach of trust, since the privacy policy IS the trust agreement.
I dunno, maybe Australia really is the lucky country.
A lot of couples DO both work, but there's a sizeable percentage of the population where 1 income still pays for a mortgage + at least 1 car and the needs of the family.
Its not all good news, but most average families can afford all of their basic needs and still have money for a good vacation every year + a few new toys along the way.
If you talk to people, most will say they are barely making ends meet, but when you realize that most of us have houses, jobs, and enough money to live - things could be a lot worse.
Still, if the article is wrong now, will it always be wrong? At some point there has to be some planning regarding population growth, and I dont think I want to be around if it gets too far.
Well at present you are exposed to more radiation while flying than when going through the scanners, and I wouldn't expect that to change.
All the same, I cant see this reducing the number of people who will not fly due to the inconvenience of things like this. If anything, it'll just put even more people off.
This may be true, but once the iTunes version hits your hard disk, surely you can throw out the "questionably procured" version and you're legit? or does iTunes still differentiate between "paid for" and "free because we assumed you already owned it"?
If you encounter an App that behaves poorly, uninstall it, rate it low in the market and harass the developer. That's what the rating system is for.
I felt the need to comment on the order of these steps.
If people would only harass the developer BEFORE rating it low in the market the developer might actually have a chance at fixing bugs and delivering value.
Too many people give a low rating and never both to contact the developer...sure it'd be nice if all apps were perfect, but what if the dev only has 1 phone and it happens to be a high-end one (because most of us are gadget geeks too)...we may not be aware that it is too resource hungry on your G1.
Any developer that cares about their product will do their best to support it, and I feel that its the right thing to do to give the dev a window of opportunity to fix bugs before giving a bad rating. If they fail to respond in a timely manner, then go ahead with the (now more deserved) rating.
Shouldn't the model be more of one where people who cannot manage systems have systems pre-secured for them, and the ones who can handle security can open them?
wait, you mean like the "unknown sources" button being unticked by default?
pretty sure you can still code for HTML1 and it will still work.
It seems like people are worried that they wont be using the latest stuff when the product finally ships...but if you dont know what the latest stuff is yet, then this is just silly.
develop for HTML5. done.
Its not like any new standard that shows up will mean that HTML5 will suddenly stop working. The web still works even though we have new browsers...and I'm pretty sure no one is going round updating every single website in the world every time there's a new browser release.
Why should being the first to think of something give you rights over anyone else who might also come up with the idea without ever coming into contact with you?
Ideas are not tangible. Only tangible things should be granted copyright-like protection.
We have a patent system where you dont even need to invent something in order to get a patent. You can patent imaginary machines. You can patent vague ideas, and then sue anyone who actually goes and does something with them.
You can patent medical discoveries, and block the whole of humanity.
You can patent the cure for cancer, and then sit back and never create it.
The patent system is wrong. Why do we want to protect money-hungry individuals and companies when all they want to do is stop others competing with them.
The old "I thought of it first" thing just isn't fair in the real world.
I was just going to post the same as you, until I read yours. Like you said, Ctrl+Shift+V does the trick in a terminal. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder if the OP ever tried using Ctrl+C or Ctrl+V in a windows command prompt window? So to copy/paste in windows you have to go into the menu and do it from there. You cant just select text either...you have to activate the menu and select "mark", and then I think it automatically copies when you right-click or something. its completely unintuitive.
I think you'll find that replying to these people is tiresome, and it becomes bleedingly obvious that reading is a rare skill and much more difficult than complaining. People would much rather complain than read, it seems.
I have a theory that Linux is actually SO consistent in its UI and guidelines, and SO near-perfect that it gripes people all the more when there are things broken or missing. Windows is a complete mess - find me 2 applications from different vendors that look or work the same. The MS Office UI changes with every release, as does every other piece of software, and many apps even paint their own ghastly UI over the top. There is so little consistency that we get used to it and dont expect so much. But linux, being "nearly there" makes things more obvious when 99% is just right but 1% is out of place.
hate to burst your bubble but human life expectancy peaked some time ago.
Maybe it will increase again but its not guaranteed...even with technology. Remember, the more advanced our technology, the more ways we have to (a) kill the planet and (b) kill each other.
sorry to paint a bleak picture...but sadly its the world we live in...not that any of this is new...
I see what you're saying, but cant help thinking that in this world, the USPTO would start to lose money and these competent and honest people would be quickly sacked to "save face".
Everything seems to revolve around money these days. And greed goes hand in hand with patents like this.
companies that think this way will also notice they have a higher-than-normal staff turnover and their training costs for new staff will far outweigh any savings they get.
are you talking about their wifi sniffing thing from years ago (nothing to do with what I was talking about) or the location services on android?
the issue in this story is that apple were storing the wifi location data on people's phones and it was synced to their PCs even when location services were turned OFF.
They have now fixed it in 4.3.3, so now android and ios act pretty much the same. if you turn location services on, expect your location to be sent to google/apple, albeit anonymously. i dont think we need to lose sleep over this.
and it is for this reason that things will continue on. sure, we're not born knowing these things, but the inventor of the car is dead, and yet we still know how to do it, in fact we're making them better now than ever before...
so long as we continue to pass on our knowledge of everything, or document it, then I dont see any issue. just like parents taught their kids how to survive in old times, we do the same today.
I do think we need a bigger emphasis on good education these days, since governments seem to have trouble working out budgets for things that matter before allocating money to things that dont....but we're not doomed yet.
case in point - install it on someone's pc, then come back 6 months later and see if it isn't full of crap, running slower, and even carrying a few trojans and other undetected crap.
Sure, it works, but it lacks polish. These days windows 7 (and likely 8) is just a nice skin on top of years of legacy crap - which was all designed for the way things worked 16+ years ago.
Have a look at the install/uninstall mechanisms - there still isn't a standard way to do it, and it just relies on a lot of goodwill from app developers to do things right.
I realise that means more freedom to the developer but at some point we have to accept that software quality and developer freedom are somewhat incompatible goals.
Try showing someone how to use windows, and before long you'll find yourself telling them "i dont know why it does that, but if you keep trying it'll work the 2nd or 3rd time" and such things. We get used to the short-comings and work around them, and somehow people still think windows is good. Its not - its just that we dont have a better solution, and no, buying a more expensive computer with a completely different interface is not necessarily a solution for most people.
in any case, you're actually just showing that chrome OS has limitations. we all knew that from the start. Most of us use lots of software, not just a browser. Chrome OS is not designed to replace all our stuff, its a fairly web-purposed OS, and is designed for a fairly specific use-case.
I think we'll see it merged with Android before long... in order to satisfy the "non-web" apps requirement of all current OSes.
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People have been criticizing Google based on "what if" scenarios for years now.
But the reality is that it would only take 1 single case of Google digging into someone's private data (ie. unencrypting private data) and the media would jump on it and google would lose 90% of its business almost overnight.
That doesn't make them safe, but I really cant see why Google would want to take that risk.
People know that Google use their data for the purposes of profiling them and re-using the data in targetted advertising, and most people are ok with that part.
Google are a marketing company and they wouldn't have the customer-base they have if they weren't trustworthy. Like I said, it only takes one breach of trust for Google to lose everything they have. If they act within their T&C's and privacy policy, then that does not constitute a breach of trust, since the privacy policy IS the trust agreement.
hmmm, but the fact that just to develop on a single iPod/iPhone would cost me over $1500 in equipment purchases, kind of sucks.
I dunno, maybe Australia really is the lucky country.
A lot of couples DO both work, but there's a sizeable percentage of the population where 1 income still pays for a mortgage + at least 1 car and the needs of the family.
Its not all good news, but most average families can afford all of their basic needs and still have money for a good vacation every year + a few new toys along the way.
If you talk to people, most will say they are barely making ends meet, but when you realize that most of us have houses, jobs, and enough money to live - things could be a lot worse.
Still, if the article is wrong now, will it always be wrong? At some point there has to be some planning regarding population growth, and I dont think I want to be around if it gets too far.
Well at present you are exposed to more radiation while flying than when going through the scanners, and I wouldn't expect that to change.
All the same, I cant see this reducing the number of people who will not fly due to the inconvenience of things like this. If anything, it'll just put even more people off.
This may be true, but once the iTunes version hits your hard disk, surely you can throw out the "questionably procured" version and you're legit? or does iTunes still differentiate between "paid for" and "free because we assumed you already owned it"?
If you encounter an App that behaves poorly, uninstall it, rate it low in the market and harass the developer. That's what the rating system is for.
I felt the need to comment on the order of these steps.
If people would only harass the developer BEFORE rating it low in the market the developer might actually have a chance at fixing bugs and delivering value.
Too many people give a low rating and never both to contact the developer...sure it'd be nice if all apps were perfect, but what if the dev only has 1 phone and it happens to be a high-end one (because most of us are gadget geeks too)...we may not be aware that it is too resource hungry on your G1.
Any developer that cares about their product will do their best to support it, and I feel that its the right thing to do to give the dev a window of opportunity to fix bugs before giving a bad rating. If they fail to respond in a timely manner, then go ahead with the (now more deserved) rating.
Shouldn't the model be more of one where people who cannot manage systems have systems pre-secured for them, and the ones who can handle security can open them?
wait, you mean like the "unknown sources" button being unticked by default?
what?
pretty sure you can still code for HTML1 and it will still work.
It seems like people are worried that they wont be using the latest stuff when the product finally ships...but if you dont know what the latest stuff is yet, then this is just silly.
develop for HTML5. done.
Its not like any new standard that shows up will mean that HTML5 will suddenly stop working. The web still works even though we have new browsers...and I'm pretty sure no one is going round updating every single website in the world every time there's a new browser release.
It was just an example...but i'm sure they'd have to justify their budget etc. its just the ridiculous way everything works nowadays...
Why should being the first to think of something give you rights over anyone else who might also come up with the idea without ever coming into contact with you?
Ideas are not tangible. Only tangible things should be granted copyright-like protection.
We have a patent system where you dont even need to invent something in order to get a patent. You can patent imaginary machines. You can patent vague ideas, and then sue anyone who actually goes and does something with them.
You can patent medical discoveries, and block the whole of humanity.
You can patent the cure for cancer, and then sit back and never create it.
The patent system is wrong. Why do we want to protect money-hungry individuals and companies when all they want to do is stop others competing with them.
The old "I thought of it first" thing just isn't fair in the real world.
well said!
I was just going to post the same as you, until I read yours. Like you said, Ctrl+Shift+V does the trick in a terminal. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder if the OP ever tried using Ctrl+C or Ctrl+V in a windows command prompt window? So to copy/paste in windows you have to go into the menu and do it from there. You cant just select text either...you have to activate the menu and select "mark", and then I think it automatically copies when you right-click or something. its completely unintuitive.
I think you'll find that replying to these people is tiresome, and it becomes bleedingly obvious that reading is a rare skill and much more difficult than complaining. People would much rather complain than read, it seems.
I have a theory that Linux is actually SO consistent in its UI and guidelines, and SO near-perfect that it gripes people all the more when there are things broken or missing. Windows is a complete mess - find me 2 applications from different vendors that look or work the same. The MS Office UI changes with every release, as does every other piece of software, and many apps even paint their own ghastly UI over the top. There is so little consistency that we get used to it and dont expect so much. But linux, being "nearly there" makes things more obvious when 99% is just right but 1% is out of place.
hate to burst your bubble but human life expectancy peaked some time ago.
Maybe it will increase again but its not guaranteed...even with technology. Remember, the more advanced our technology, the more ways we have to (a) kill the planet and (b) kill each other.
sorry to paint a bleak picture...but sadly its the world we live in...not that any of this is new...
Correct, but it still makes you a clown, because your customers could get for free what you are trying to charge for...
I see what you're saying, but cant help thinking that in this world, the USPTO would start to lose money and these competent and honest people would be quickly sacked to "save face".
Everything seems to revolve around money these days. And greed goes hand in hand with patents like this.
companies that think this way will also notice they have a higher-than-normal staff turnover and their training costs for new staff will far outweigh any savings they get.
say what? who said anything was accidental?
are you talking about their wifi sniffing thing from years ago (nothing to do with what I was talking about) or the location services on android?
the issue in this story is that apple were storing the wifi location data on people's phones and it was synced to their PCs even when location services were turned OFF.
They have now fixed it in 4.3.3, so now android and ios act pretty much the same. if you turn location services on, expect your location to be sent to google/apple, albeit anonymously. i dont think we need to lose sleep over this.
meh then we agree. I said wifi towers, meaning "permanent" wifi APs. sorry - probably wasn't clear what I meant.
What you described is as I understood it to be.
and it is for this reason that things will continue on. sure, we're not born knowing these things, but the inventor of the car is dead, and yet we still know how to do it, in fact we're making them better now than ever before...
so long as we continue to pass on our knowledge of everything, or document it, then I dont see any issue. just like parents taught their kids how to survive in old times, we do the same today.
I do think we need a bigger emphasis on good education these days, since governments seem to have trouble working out budgets for things that matter before allocating money to things that dont....but we're not doomed yet.
what? how about number of words, or characters?
you could easily increase lines per page by increasing margins, so that's not a great metric to use.
windows is a mess. always has been.
case in point - install it on someone's pc, then come back 6 months later and see if it isn't full of crap, running slower, and even carrying a few trojans and other undetected crap.
Sure, it works, but it lacks polish. These days windows 7 (and likely 8) is just a nice skin on top of years of legacy crap - which was all designed for the way things worked 16+ years ago.
Have a look at the install/uninstall mechanisms - there still isn't a standard way to do it, and it just relies on a lot of goodwill from app developers to do things right.
I realise that means more freedom to the developer but at some point we have to accept that software quality and developer freedom are somewhat incompatible goals.
Try showing someone how to use windows, and before long you'll find yourself telling them "i dont know why it does that, but if you keep trying it'll work the 2nd or 3rd time" and such things. We get used to the short-comings and work around them, and somehow people still think windows is good. Its not - its just that we dont have a better solution, and no, buying a more expensive computer with a completely different interface is not necessarily a solution for most people.
I thought chrome OS was built on ubuntu?
in any case, you're actually just showing that chrome OS has limitations. we all knew that from the start. Most of us use lots of software, not just a browser. Chrome OS is not designed to replace all our stuff, its a fairly web-purposed OS, and is designed for a fairly specific use-case.
I think we'll see it merged with Android before long... in order to satisfy the "non-web" apps requirement of all current OSes.
I believe I 'misread' it...sorry. I'll move on now. :(
hopefully this isn't their way of "treating its people better".
The fact that they are being forced to sign these things is just further proof of their slave-like working conditions.
In an attempt to reduce the bad press the company is receiving, they are actually just making it look worse!
I've yet to see any visible effect of Apple pushing them to improve conditions...hopefully I'm wrong.
ever use anything electronic lately? 99% of it comes from china. I love hating on apple too, but this issue isn't unique to apple.