read up on how android works. the entire ebook app may well be in memory (if you have spare memory) but will not be consuming cpu cycles unless it is active. If you have free ram just sitting there, why not use it to make your phone faster? actually its basically the same as what ios 4 does...
My 18 month old child is way more intelligent than any dog or cat. Show me a dog or cat that can truly think for itself, and piece together discoveries from today with things it learnt 3 weeks ago.
You need to take a long hard look around. People forget that if you treat your kid like an idiot, you'll have an idiot for a kid - and yet that's how most people treat their pet. In fact, most people don't even treat their pet like a pet. Rather, they treat it like an animal which they simply co-habitat. Treat your kid like that and you'll have an anti-social, idiot of a child.
hmm, I must concede that point. I was going by pets I know, rather than what their potential could have been...so fair enough.
However, a common measure of intelligence (especially dogs) is how many times you need to repeat something in order to train the animal. Again, my 18 month old can pick things up after just seeing it once. Dogs need to be specifically trained in most cases.
At Apple, the form factor is just as much a feature (if not more so) as any other. Their success of late seems to indicate that the general public agree to some extent.
you do not want to program towards a constantly changing API.
APIs once stable, should not change. backwards compatibility means you leave the existing API as is and just add to it. Eventually some parts may become deprecated, but only once it is believed to be well out of common use.
No different to what we have now with package dependencies. You code for whatever APIs you want, and the installer makes sure the versions of libraries you need are at least that version or later.
Example: Apps written for KDE 2.0 or GNOME 1.0 should still run, provided the required libs are there.
Cats are fairly trainable. The big disconnect comes from requiring a different approach than one uses with dogs. For whatever reason, many people seem unable to read a cat's body language; which is an absolutely must. While I do agree, in general, dogs are smarter than cats, both have fairly large vocabularies to which they can comprehend and attempt to emote.
Cats can make a LOT more sounds than dogs...if that is what you were referring to...
Remember, on average, dog = three year old human. A cat = two year old human.
Disagree - you cannot compare the intelligence with any animal to that of a human. Humans are in an entirely different league...even baby ones.
My 18 month old child is way more intelligent than any dog or cat. Show me a dog or cat that can truly think for itself, and piece together discoveries from today with things it learnt 3 weeks ago.
I am constantly amazed by the things she has worked out on her own, without needing to be told, trained, or anything. I've never really been amazed at things a dog or cat might do, except for maybe our last cat hiding its collar in a cupboard because it hated wearing it.
Even a 1 year old human can pick up skills that a dog cannot comprehend. My daughter started to show her sense of humour well before 12 months. She would do things purely to make me laugh or smile. Dogs and cats don't really go beyond a confined set of abilities - which usually centre around sleeping, eating, and bodily functions. Even the things they can be trained to do, are purely driven by their senses.
When you attempt to train a dog, conditioning comes into play. The dog knows it will get rewarded if it does what it's told, and as such becomes trained. You train a dog similar to how you train a human, through a reward system.
When you attempt to train a cat, attitude comes into play. The cat doesn't care what you tell it to do, because it's a cat. Bribary doesn't work...you have to train a cat the way a mother cat would train her kittens. If you can read their body language (and learn how to physically communicate without the use of a tail), you can communicate with them on a fairly deep level.
I've had pets my whole life, both cats and dogs. In my own experience, dogs make for better companions, but cats are more intelligent.
I agree entirely.
Dogs are smarter in terms of working out what you want them to do, and doing it, knowing they will likely be rewarded.
Cats are smarter in terms of working out that what you want them to do is for your own selfish interest and then ignoring you...knowing that you'll feed them anyway...and if you don't feed them, your neighbour probably will.
Both are intelligent, but in different ways. Both are also stupid, but in different ways.
What about sails as a complementary means of propulsion? The wind is blowing -> release a kite, dead calm -> boost the engine. Anyway, I don't understand why is it so impossible for these ships to cut the speed by at least a few knots. Wouldn't it be cheaper?
well, it was only a matter of time until someone mentioned a hybrid...:P
see, this is just a move to show that Oracle are being friendly and nice to the community. The fact that said community no longer exists was supposed to be a secret.
exactly. The summary (quoted from the article) seems to be the complete opposite of what the ipad is (if you think i'll waste time reading the article you'd be wrong).
The ipad DOES specify what the user can and cannot do with it. It DOES try to force the user into a certain way of doing things. That is what apple is all about. Whether you agree with it or not determines whether or not you are likely to buy their products.
I think this is also the success of the iProducts - it is clear to the users what they can be used for, and they decide that is something they want. Apple doesn't create what people want. They create products and then tell people why they want them...its good design mixed with good marketing, and it works.
sure, because we know that only stationary people report accidents...
that idea is as dumb as the original one.
how about realising that the solution is worse than the problem and go back to just trying to solve the original problem without creating a bigger one.
I could think of just as many scenarios where NOT being able to make a call whilst in a car (not even driving) would result in people dying. How do you make an emergency phone call when you are near a vehicle? presumably such things would have a certain range.
Also, if you put the technology there, how long before people learn to either disable it or worse, misuse it. There would be many illegal uses for such a device with a range of several metres. If someone were to witness a crime, how would they alert the police if their cell phone doesn't work? no point running to the nearest landline, the criminal has already made a getaway...and you can't track the criminal by their own cell phone either...
Rape (and other) victims have been tracked by cellphone location before, by holding a call open.
There are legitimate uses for phones in cars, just not for the driver.
well, just the other night I had trouble with my netbook.
Ubuntu NR wasn't working (unity interface) so in the end I gave up and booted into windows xp. windows xp connected to my wireless network but failed to go any further. it was slow, and painful. so I went back to ubuntu, only to realise it had been sitting there half-way through an upgrade. Once it finished, it booted in, everything worked, and I was up and away.
Both were slow, and both were painful in their own way, but at least ubuntu worked. Sure, that's different to most people's experience, but IMO windows xp sucks. I dont get everyone's love affair with it. its slow and freezes up all the time. windows just gets slower with every release - you dont realise how bad it is until you try the latest ubuntu/kubuntu/fedora/whatever your favourite linux is. I switched back to windows exclusively for about 18 months. Then I booted into linux just to see where it had come...and was blown away by the speed!! that was 12 months ago...I haven't missed windows. its just a mess. it works when it works, but breaks too easily.
I like your stance, but for a lot of people, what you are saying (ie. stopping work for large corporations), could very likely result in someone losing their job, then their house, their health, and possibly even their partner if things get real tough (given that they quit work on 'moral' grounds).
Whilst I get what you're saying, I wouldn't wish that outcome on anyone. I've been in a situation where everything I have depends on my job, and sometimes just having a job can be the one thing holding your life together, no matter how crap the job itself is. Its pretty hard to come to work to do a job you hate and wanting to quit but knowing your life would collapse if you did...but thinking about the family you have at home that depend on you for even their basic needs (food, clothing, shelter), makes it a lot easier to maintain perspective and just get on with the job.
That would be true if Larry invented poorly written perl code.
I work with perl and I see good code and bad code, same as with (almost) any other language.
I think the issue with perl is that non-perl programmers don't like it when they cant read the code, and so they think it must be poorly written. It doesn't take long to learn it, and suddenly things make a lot of sense.
people wont see it that way, because it wont be marketed that way.
What they'll be "receiving" is a computer where all of their important stuff, and all of their applications are all backed up.
If you own an android phone you can already have your entire settings/apps/whatever backed up to google's servers. If you need to reset the phone for any reason you can restore it back to the way it was very easily.
This is what Chrome OS will likely bring, not just a duplication of what we already have in the browser.
just because you wouldn't use it, doesn't mean its useless. Hell, I have no use for an iPad, but that hasn't stopped its success...
yeah sure copyright is the law...and you cant just steal information from websites and publish it, but put ONE photo online and suddenly its your fault it got republished all over the web...
copyright may be the law but people's interpretation of it is another thing entirely.
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read up on how android works. the entire ebook app may well be in memory (if you have spare memory) but will not be consuming cpu cycles unless it is active. If you have free ram just sitting there, why not use it to make your phone faster? actually its basically the same as what ios 4 does...
and did you seriously expect that the patent office would objectively search for prior art before just granting the patent?
all we need now is a patent on patents and the world will explode.
My 18 month old child is way more intelligent than any dog or cat. Show me a dog or cat that can truly think for itself, and piece together discoveries from today with things it learnt 3 weeks ago.
You need to take a long hard look around. People forget that if you treat your kid like an idiot, you'll have an idiot for a kid - and yet that's how most people treat their pet. In fact, most people don't even treat their pet like a pet. Rather, they treat it like an animal which they simply co-habitat. Treat your kid like that and you'll have an anti-social, idiot of a child.
hmm, I must concede that point. I was going by pets I know, rather than what their potential could have been...so fair enough.
However, a common measure of intelligence (especially dogs) is how many times you need to repeat something in order to train the animal. Again, my 18 month old can pick things up after just seeing it once. Dogs need to be specifically trained in most cases.
i'm not sure what you mean...but neither dogs nor cats can be commanded to do that.
cats do it out of instinct...and many puppy owners would prefer their pet would do the same...
cats that go outdoors often enough will prefer the garden anyway...and from then on will only use the litter if they have to.
Bath in my own urine, I do... I've never been sick a day in my life
You'll also probably never had a date in your life too..
what do you mean, "probably" ?!
At Apple, the form factor is just as much a feature (if not more so) as any other. Their success of late seems to indicate that the general public agree to some extent.
you do not want to program towards a constantly changing API.
APIs once stable, should not change. backwards compatibility means you leave the existing API as is and just add to it. Eventually some parts may become deprecated, but only once it is believed to be well out of common use.
No different to what we have now with package dependencies. You code for whatever APIs you want, and the installer makes sure the versions of libraries you need are at least that version or later.
Example: Apps written for KDE 2.0 or GNOME 1.0 should still run, provided the required libs are there.
that is because even at 12 months most humans are significantly more intelligent than any dog or cat.
Cats are fairly trainable. The big disconnect comes from requiring a different approach than one uses with dogs. For whatever reason, many people seem unable to read a cat's body language; which is an absolutely must. While I do agree, in general, dogs are smarter than cats, both have fairly large vocabularies to which they can comprehend and attempt to emote.
Cats can make a LOT more sounds than dogs...if that is what you were referring to...
Remember, on average, dog = three year old human. A cat = two year old human.
Disagree - you cannot compare the intelligence with any animal to that of a human. Humans are in an entirely different league...even baby ones.
My 18 month old child is way more intelligent than any dog or cat. Show me a dog or cat that can truly think for itself, and piece together discoveries from today with things it learnt 3 weeks ago.
I am constantly amazed by the things she has worked out on her own, without needing to be told, trained, or anything. I've never really been amazed at things a dog or cat might do, except for maybe our last cat hiding its collar in a cupboard because it hated wearing it.
Even a 1 year old human can pick up skills that a dog cannot comprehend. My daughter started to show her sense of humour well before 12 months. She would do things purely to make me laugh or smile. Dogs and cats don't really go beyond a confined set of abilities - which usually centre around sleeping, eating, and bodily functions. Even the things they can be trained to do, are purely driven by their senses.
I think you're confused here.
When you attempt to train a dog, conditioning comes into play. The dog knows it will get rewarded if it does what it's told, and as such becomes trained. You train a dog similar to how you train a human, through a reward system.
When you attempt to train a cat, attitude comes into play. The cat doesn't care what you tell it to do, because it's a cat. Bribary doesn't work...you have to train a cat the way a mother cat would train her kittens. If you can read their body language (and learn how to physically communicate without the use of a tail), you can communicate with them on a fairly deep level.
I've had pets my whole life, both cats and dogs. In my own experience, dogs make for better companions, but cats are more intelligent.
I agree entirely.
Dogs are smarter in terms of working out what you want them to do, and doing it, knowing they will likely be rewarded.
Cats are smarter in terms of working out that what you want them to do is for your own selfish interest and then ignoring you...knowing that you'll feed them anyway...and if you don't feed them, your neighbour probably will.
Both are intelligent, but in different ways. Both are also stupid, but in different ways.
I think an easier test of intelligence is to point at something. A dog will look where you're pointing. A cat just looks at your finger...
Not always. and in any case, not a clear basis for intelligence.
A dog does not think for itself - it just does what it is trained to. A cat will do what IT wants, not necessarily what you want it to.
Both are intelligent - just in different forms.
A dog is a servant, a cat is a master.
What about sails as a complementary means of propulsion? The wind is blowing -> release a kite, dead calm -> boost the engine. Anyway, I don't understand why is it so impossible for these ships to cut the speed by at least a few knots. Wouldn't it be cheaper?
well, it was only a matter of time until someone mentioned a hybrid... :P
sssh, you're ruining it for them.
see, this is just a move to show that Oracle are being friendly and nice to the community. The fact that said community no longer exists was supposed to be a secret.
I dont think "causing harm" is the right way to put it.
How about "leading to harm" instead?
Attachmate Linux?
sounds like the linux distro for australian couples...
exactly. The summary (quoted from the article) seems to be the complete opposite of what the ipad is (if you think i'll waste time reading the article you'd be wrong).
The ipad DOES specify what the user can and cannot do with it. It DOES try to force the user into a certain way of doing things. That is what apple is all about. Whether you agree with it or not determines whether or not you are likely to buy their products.
I think this is also the success of the iProducts - it is clear to the users what they can be used for, and they decide that is something they want. Apple doesn't create what people want. They create products and then tell people why they want them...its good design mixed with good marketing, and it works.
We totally meant to do that cool thing you guys thought we didn't mean to do ... and stuff.
now we just need to wait for a similar announcement about windows and everything will make sense...
sure, because we know that only stationary people report accidents...
that idea is as dumb as the original one.
how about realising that the solution is worse than the problem and go back to just trying to solve the original problem without creating a bigger one.
I could think of just as many scenarios where NOT being able to make a call whilst in a car (not even driving) would result in people dying. How do you make an emergency phone call when you are near a vehicle? presumably such things would have a certain range.
Also, if you put the technology there, how long before people learn to either disable it or worse, misuse it. There would be many illegal uses for such a device with a range of several metres. If someone were to witness a crime, how would they alert the police if their cell phone doesn't work? no point running to the nearest landline, the criminal has already made a getaway...and you can't track the criminal by their own cell phone either...
Rape (and other) victims have been tracked by cellphone location before, by holding a call open.
There are legitimate uses for phones in cars, just not for the driver.
This is a very, very bad idea...
well, just the other night I had trouble with my netbook.
Ubuntu NR wasn't working (unity interface) so in the end I gave up and booted into windows xp. windows xp connected to my wireless network but failed to go any further. it was slow, and painful. so I went back to ubuntu, only to realise it had been sitting there half-way through an upgrade. Once it finished, it booted in, everything worked, and I was up and away.
Both were slow, and both were painful in their own way, but at least ubuntu worked. Sure, that's different to most people's experience, but IMO windows xp sucks. I dont get everyone's love affair with it. its slow and freezes up all the time. windows just gets slower with every release - you dont realise how bad it is until you try the latest ubuntu/kubuntu/fedora/whatever your favourite linux is. I switched back to windows exclusively for about 18 months. Then I booted into linux just to see where it had come...and was blown away by the speed!! that was 12 months ago...I haven't missed windows. its just a mess. it works when it works, but breaks too easily.
I like your stance, but for a lot of people, what you are saying (ie. stopping work for large corporations), could very likely result in someone losing their job, then their house, their health, and possibly even their partner if things get real tough (given that they quit work on 'moral' grounds).
Whilst I get what you're saying, I wouldn't wish that outcome on anyone. I've been in a situation where everything I have depends on my job, and sometimes just having a job can be the one thing holding your life together, no matter how crap the job itself is. Its pretty hard to come to work to do a job you hate and wanting to quit but knowing your life would collapse if you did...but thinking about the family you have at home that depend on you for even their basic needs (food, clothing, shelter), makes it a lot easier to maintain perspective and just get on with the job.
That would be true if Larry invented poorly written perl code.
I work with perl and I see good code and bad code, same as with (almost) any other language.
I think the issue with perl is that non-perl programmers don't like it when they cant read the code, and so they think it must be poorly written. It doesn't take long to learn it, and suddenly things make a lot of sense.
haha, someone wasted a mod point on that?
people wont see it that way, because it wont be marketed that way.
What they'll be "receiving" is a computer where all of their important stuff, and all of their applications are all backed up.
If you own an android phone you can already have your entire settings/apps/whatever backed up to google's servers. If you need to reset the phone for any reason you can restore it back to the way it was very easily.
This is what Chrome OS will likely bring, not just a duplication of what we already have in the browser.
just because you wouldn't use it, doesn't mean its useless. Hell, I have no use for an iPad, but that hasn't stopped its success...
yeah sure copyright is the law...and you cant just steal information from websites and publish it, but put ONE photo online and suddenly its your fault it got republished all over the web...
copyright may be the law but people's interpretation of it is another thing entirely.