Also, just because you are first to think of an idea, why should that prevent others from coming up with anything similar? If they didn't copy from you, then why should they not have rights to their idea, just because they weren't the first?
You could just as easlily say that the GPL is incompatible with the App store as the other way round. The claim is that because the App store has some restrictions (e.g. you can only install on 5 devices per download) and the GPL doesn't allow any extra restictions, that this is Apple's fault. If the owners of VLC want it on the app store, they could easily re-license it under a more permissive license that would be compatible. There's loads of situations outside of the app store where a piece of software might be subject to 'extra' restrictions. I don't think this is a deliberate decision on Apple's part to remove GPL apps, it's more a clash of cultures that either side could fix, and when Apple are told by someone that a certain app is incompatible in license with the App Store, it's perfectly natural for them to remove it as the first action.
except that the GPL came out first and the app store came out second.
And now once again, someone is suggesting the world change to suit apple. and they call US backwards...
KDE SC 4.5+ is a lot more stable than earlier releases. It was good enough for me to switch back from gnome (I switched to gnome a year or 2 ago due to KDE's instability).
To all those who think gnome is great and kde is unusable...well, gnome is great, I'll admit that...but with KDE so many apps have tabbed interfaces and for my work that means a lot less windows open and I can group similar tasks together. It makes a world of difference to productivity. Also mulit-monitor support is much nicer - I can have panels on any screen I want, exactly where I put them.
GNOME isn't bad, but it lacks features. KDE SC 4.5 is pretty darn stable for me...using kubuntu 10.10 right now.
ok then, using your favourite OS, and without using the CLI do the following:
* you have a directory containing 1000 jpeg files with random filenames but with a.jpeg extension. * rename them all to have a.jpg extension instead (yes, using the GUI) * first, realise that what you've actually typed during this process is only about 3 keystrokes less than the CLI version (if your OS even lets you do it). * now explain to someone else how to do it.
The CLI is much easier for some tasks. Sure, we shouldn't require it where possible, but we certainly should accept it as a standard feature of a modern OS.
... Unless this new language makes secure programming as quick as unsecure programming, then corners are always going to be cut and security will suffer.
these people aren't dropping java, they're dropping oracle. there is a big difference - this has nothing to do with apple or your beloved SJ. you wont find too many oracle-haters who dont also believe java should be freed from oracle (and therefore still used globally).
HTML5 is coming. Just dont hold your breath waiting...
until then, we have flash...and apple users have tricky hacks to get flash videos working, while the rest of the world looks on and says "what are they doing?".
iStuff just works until you want to do something Steve hasn't pre-approved. At which point it just doesn't work.
Its not just that it doesn't work. The problem is much worse than that. The iStuff device claims that it has no flaws and that YOU are the problem, not it.
Sooner or later, to Apple or not to Apple becomes a moral choice. (there's that word 'choice' again).
so we should be able to use these formats in competing products right?
wrong.
the formats are built around Microsoft Office, not the other way around.
How much of the supposedly "open" specs relies on algorithms known only to Microsoft?
There is no other product available that can display Microsoft Word documents with correct formatting intact.
Even Microsoft Word cannot correctly import some of the older documents. When 100% compatibility doesn't even exist between all versions of the one product, how can you rely on the file format as a reliable format for storage and backup?
I agree.. and yet you can't even boot, for the first time, a 3G iPad without connecting it to a computer with iTunes. WTH were they thinking with that?
and an internet connection.
And you can't do it without Apple having your credit card details on file. How many apps/songs etc are purchased after being accidentally clicked on (or "touched")?
the iPad DOES replace a PC for a large amount of people. Take off your slashdot-coloured glasses, and you'll realize that most non-technicals just use their PC to update their facebook, surf the web, and jot a few quick emails.
just thought I'd point out that that "large" amount of people is a very very very tiny percent of the population.
Also, desktop linux has LOTS more users than the iPad.
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waiting for microsoft to start one of these for Internet Explorer or Windows. Then I can retire :)
you too...
I stand by my previous post.
Regardless of whether the issue exists or not, simply mentioning "antennagate" will make it clearly obvious who is a fanboy and who is not...
and it worked like a charm :P
lol - you took the bait.
My point wasn't that there IS such a thing as 'antennagate', just that if you mention it, you'll find out who the apple fanboys are.
and it worked...like a charm.
What patents basically did was to make the multi-touch technology so expensive that the devices were on hold for about 20 years.
wow, patents actually slowing down progress? what an innovative idea...
First to patent != first to invent
Also, just because you are first to think of an idea, why should that prevent others from coming up with anything similar? If they didn't copy from you, then why should they not have rights to their idea, just because they weren't the first?
patents are anti-competitive that's why.
Hey! Your not allowed to just add "on Slashdot" to some widely used technique and then patent it!
hmm, actually, it would seem that you are allowed to.
You could just as easlily say that the GPL is incompatible with the App store as the other way round. The claim is that because the App store has some restrictions (e.g. you can only install on 5 devices per download) and the GPL doesn't allow any extra restictions, that this is Apple's fault. If the owners of VLC want it on the app store, they could easily re-license it under a more permissive license that would be compatible. There's loads of situations outside of the app store where a piece of software might be subject to 'extra' restrictions. I don't think this is a deliberate decision on Apple's part to remove GPL apps, it's more a clash of cultures that either side could fix, and when Apple are told by someone that a certain app is incompatible in license with the App Store, it's perfectly natural for them to remove it as the first action.
except that the GPL came out first and the app store came out second.
And now once again, someone is suggesting the world change to suit apple. and they call US backwards...
The next MacOS release will require signed applications and guess what.... only Steve gets to sign.
Only for those things put on the App Store. The app store will not be an exclusive place to download apps on OS X. Stop spreading lies.
Are you that blind you don't think it'll happen in a future release?
The writing is on the wall - it is only a matter of time. Sometime in the next few years people will be asking how to jailbreak their mac.
KDE SC 4.5+ is a lot more stable than earlier releases. It was good enough for me to switch back from gnome (I switched to gnome a year or 2 ago due to KDE's instability).
To all those who think gnome is great and kde is unusable...well, gnome is great, I'll admit that...but with KDE so many apps have tabbed interfaces and for my work that means a lot less windows open and I can group similar tasks together. It makes a world of difference to productivity. Also mulit-monitor support is much nicer - I can have panels on any screen I want, exactly where I put them.
GNOME isn't bad, but it lacks features. KDE SC 4.5 is pretty darn stable for me...using kubuntu 10.10 right now.
ok then, using your favourite OS, and without using the CLI do the following:
* you have a directory containing 1000 jpeg files with random filenames but with a .jpeg extension. .jpg extension instead (yes, using the GUI)
* rename them all to have a
* first, realise that what you've actually typed during this process is only about 3 keystrokes less than the CLI version (if your OS even lets you do it).
* now explain to someone else how to do it.
The CLI is much easier for some tasks. Sure, we shouldn't require it where possible, but we certainly should accept it as a standard feature of a modern OS.
... Unless this new language makes secure programming as quick as unsecure programming, then corners are always going to be cut and security will suffer.
Its insecure programming. sheesh...
what did they get? a lot of bad press, so far.
these people aren't dropping java, they're dropping oracle. there is a big difference - this has nothing to do with apple or your beloved SJ. you wont find too many oracle-haters who dont also believe java should be freed from oracle (and therefore still used globally).
HTML5 is coming. Just dont hold your breath waiting...
until then, we have flash...and apple users have tricky hacks to get flash videos working, while the rest of the world looks on and says "what are they doing?".
mention "iphone 4 antennagate" and you'll quickly see who is drinking the kool-aid and who is not.
its called 'shifting the goalposts'. you know, the same thing he was accusing google of.
iStuff just works until you want to do something Steve hasn't pre-approved. At which point it just doesn't work.
Its not just that it doesn't work. The problem is much worse than that. The iStuff device claims that it has no flaws and that YOU are the problem, not it.
Sooner or later, to Apple or not to Apple becomes a moral choice. (there's that word 'choice' again).
Install a different app-store on your android phone and install what you want.
download apps directly to your android phone and install them.
develop your own apps for your android phone and install them straight onto your own phone, or distribute them however you like...
THAT is the difference.
Those are facts.
At apple, we dont like to ruin some good old FUD with the facts...
but you CAN install it on your nexus one (dev phone).
Your comment is implicitly saying that Google should enforce these things onto the manufacturers - but that goes against being open.
Android is as open as it gets, even if the devices it runs on are not (always).
sounds a bit like ubuntu...
anyway, yes it may be considered "open" in one sense...
but windows gives you a lot more choice.
openness, at the end of the day, is about giving the user choices.
Yes, some idiots want to exclude from "number of items sold" the number of items that were sold in countries other than the US. Very funny indeed.
no one is claiming what you say they are.
the iphone is still the most popular. There I said it.
Its also better (and technically superior) than phones like the HTC magic and other Android 1.5/1.6 phones.
However, Android is currently more popular in the US than the iPhone. Deal with it.
so we should be able to use these formats in competing products right?
wrong.
the formats are built around Microsoft Office, not the other way around.
How much of the supposedly "open" specs relies on algorithms known only to Microsoft?
There is no other product available that can display Microsoft Word documents with correct formatting intact.
Even Microsoft Word cannot correctly import some of the older documents. When 100% compatibility doesn't even exist between all versions of the one product, how can you rely on the file format as a reliable format for storage and backup?
I agree.. and yet you can't even boot, for the first time, a 3G iPad without connecting it to a computer with iTunes. WTH were they thinking with that?
and an internet connection.
And you can't do it without Apple having your credit card details on file. How many apps/songs etc are purchased after being accidentally clicked on (or "touched")?
the iPad DOES replace a PC for a large amount of people. Take off your slashdot-coloured glasses, and you'll realize that most non-technicals just use their PC to update their facebook, surf the web, and jot a few quick emails.
just thought I'd point out that that "large" amount of people is a very very very tiny percent of the population.
Also, desktop linux has LOTS more users than the iPad.
I love statistics...