Thanks for the link. I must have missed that day. I wish I could have found someone there who had a clear answer. I examined using RHDS last year and wasn't given a clear indication as to whether it could be used with Windows 7. We have been using Samba LDAP for about 6 years, but that may not be a usefull solution when we begin to migrate to Windows 7.
I would like to stay with an Samba LDAP solution, but until Samba 4 is available I don't think we have any options. I already have users who want to migrate to Windows 7, so I don't know how long I can hold them off.
I believe that FDS RHDS would work for just authentication, but I am concerned about Windows 7 reliance on AD server.
Yeah, we've already tried running in this direction. We got stymied by error 36 when trying to transfer file to and from linux servers and Mac clients.
While you are looking at the moon with the telescope. You might want to interest some of the students in looking for satellites. This is also dependent on your location. If you are in a rural area.
Yes it can. A lot of heat will be created in the telescope. Think magnifying glass and ants. Depending on the make and model you can start melting plastic pretty quickly in one. Some cheap lenses can also be destroyed by doing this.
I wouldn't try this with any telescope. One if it is cheap, it will melt. Two if it is expensive, I don't want to find out what will melt.
The best and only way to do this, is with a solar filter on both ends of the scope.
Yes I actually melted my first telescope doing this.
I have also seen people crack their objective solar filter, because they had to much light coming through and the heat cracked the glass.
You should have to have a license to operate Windows. Any other OS you don't need one. Licensing should be issued by the nearest LUG for a small fee.
What the hell is this bonehead talking about? They have a 90% market share. Just make up a required course that people must take to buy your software and be done with it. Or make it so that IE doesn't work unless you have used a smart card that reads your license.
Wow, that seems overly harsh. At what point did you look at a student and realize that a number of people up to that point had told them that their English was fine? I'm sure I would have fit into this group whose grammatical capabilities didn't fit my educational status.
I probably would have sat in that class and said "holly crap" and then been left with the decision to learn what I could in the time allotted or figure another way to reach my goal.
I would prefer the former option, but reading your summary of the class and the attitude bleeding from it, I would have probably looked for the later.
The problem is that a lot of the research within academia and government is being done for corporations or by corporations.
Did you see that little commercial with the man with the funny ? suit saying there's free government money.
Well I can tell you most of it goes to corporations or companies where they do the research.
The thing about the research is that the company doesn't have to divulge everything they found to receive the money.
All they have to do is show that they tried. In the mean time they may have found out if they tweak things a little bit then they get the results they want. They don't have to tell anyone. They can submit their papers and then later on say surprise we found a nifty twist that makes it work, by the way we are patenting it.
So commercialism is dictating where science progresses.
Like it or not this is the direction we are headed until grants and funding are given to academia to support this kind of research. Usually academia can't afford the equipment and maintenance cost associated with running experiments with the latest technology.
very strange how you would blame this on Obama, when it was GWB who sent out the first $740 Billion and the economy tanked and the signs that the economy were going to tank all occurred while GWB was president.
Some people really do have selective memories.
Yeah , unless your the head of a corporation, president or a congressman, your just going to have to take it.
The other possibility is to swing the pendulum the other way and hack into or take down a government installation. Then they'll hire you.
Or you could try to become the figure head of a small country and slaughter thousands( I think the magical number is 2,000).
But since you appear to be just starting out, well you are basically screwed. But get the job anyway, even if they offer you lower pay. Once they trust you then wreak havoc, if it's a large company (then later you can write a book about it and go on speaking tours on the evil of hacking and/or corporate espionage). I mean look for opportunities. I mean, take me for instance, I'm sitting here with another computer, just ready to release virulent shit at a mouse click. No way am I going down for just reading and posting to slashdot.
I think the outdated part is getting worse though. Even 5 years ago there was a problem with information being posted on web sites without dates, that problem hasn't gone away. So now you are left with looking for information on the latest version. I'm not talking just Linux desktops here, I am talking about a number of server applications as well that run on linux.
Samba seemed to have a good start on correcting all of this, but lately I find there documentation lacking and confusing, partly because they have various versions running in parallel with different capabilities. But looking at the latest documentation it appears that they have thrown in the towel.
I hate to use Samba as an example, because their attempts at documenting a server application have come a lot further than most, but it serves as an example of a major effort that still is falling short. Given how close they are you can see the disconnect between the people doing the documentation and the developers.
So based on what I see within Samba group , it appears that this is a management issue and I guarantee you that in most other projects the issue is the same.
The developers say that they have implemented xyz and gotten it to work. Someone works with them and gets xyz to work and documents it, but it is documented for one flavor of linux and for one installation. But it is considered finished and documented.
With regards to other applications, some of the wiki efforts are helping, but they are also lacking in some respects. A major hole I see is that a lot of documentation is done for lab environments, not for production full scale environments with security
.
Here are some examples I ran across last night. I was working on a simple page after being away from coding for web interface for 6 months and was just googling. I was looking for HTML attributes and came across that and
were being deprecated. No examples. links were given for what to do instead, just that they were deprecated and you shouldn't use them anymore.
I also wanted to check the DATETIME format for MySQL and php. Googled that, and was taken to a five page article on how to use DateTime functions in MySQL. I realized rather quickly this is not what I wanted, but was amazed that here was an article on manipulating DATE and TIME in MySQL using built-in functions and there was nothing in the title that indicated this was just MySQL functions. The main reference to PHP was to not use it to do manipulation.
Oh, well. I truly believe that this is going to go on forever. slashdot could have an article a day for the next year on bad documentation and we would still be in the same place 2 years from now.
Good things I see, some of the documentation is getting better and there is more of it.
Bad, there is still a major disconnect between users and writers of documentation.
Recommendations: Reward documenters. How many documenters do you know vs developers in the linux community?
Make documentation it's own branch of linux, flavor it, compete. Someone may like this version of documentation over another, but let's not abandon a documentation style, just make documentation distributions, so to speak.
We do need to cull down documentation. How many frigging times do we need documentation on a basic linux setup or samba installation in a workgroup environment
If I were a company that wanted to cripple the adoption of linux, one of the things I would do is distribute on the web about 30 versions of a basic document or how to, or 20 versions of a complex how to (giving an explanation of TCP/IP and burying the examples of basic network configuration in the article)
I think RedHat made a good start overall, but lately their documentation has become incomplete or difficult to figure out where to find the information you are looking for.
Amazon would still have an advantage. I can order from Amazon at midnight from home after spending 4 hours researching online. With WalMart I still have to drive someplace where I wouldn't normally be going.
Slashdot Mirror
Thanks for the link. I must have missed that day.
I wish I could have found someone there who had a clear answer. I examined using RHDS last year and wasn't given a clear indication as to whether it could be used with Windows 7. We have been using Samba LDAP for about 6 years, but that may not be a usefull solution when we begin to migrate to Windows 7.
I would like to stay with an Samba LDAP solution, but until Samba 4 is available I don't think we have any options. I already have users who want to migrate to Windows 7, so I don't know how long I can hold them off.
I believe that FDS RHDS would work for just authentication, but I am concerned about Windows 7 reliance on AD server.
Yeah, we've already tried running in this direction. We got stymied by error 36 when trying to transfer file to and from linux servers and Mac clients.
No, I have been waiting for something like this for about 5+ years.
Ahhh, What do you recommend for a small to mid size company using Windows clients, who needs network authentication?
While you are looking at the moon with the telescope. You might want to interest some of the students in looking for satellites. This is also dependent on your location. If you are in a rural area.
Yes it can. A lot of heat will be created in the telescope. Think magnifying glass and ants. Depending on the make and model you can start melting plastic pretty quickly in one. Some cheap lenses can also be destroyed by doing this.
I wouldn't try this with any telescope. One if it is cheap, it will melt. Two if it is expensive, I don't want to find out what will melt.
The best and only way to do this, is with a solar filter on both ends of the scope.
Yes I actually melted my first telescope doing this.
I have also seen people crack their objective solar filter, because they had to much light coming through and the heat cracked the glass.
I think you just made his point.
You should have to have a license to operate Windows. Any other OS you don't need one. Licensing should be issued by the nearest LUG for a small fee.
What the hell is this bonehead talking about? They have a 90% market share. Just make up a required course that people must take to buy your software and be done with it. Or make it so that IE doesn't work unless you have used a smart card that reads your license.
Wow, that seems overly harsh. At what point did you look at a student and realize that a number of people up to that point had told them that their English was fine? I'm sure I would have fit into this group whose grammatical capabilities didn't fit my educational status.
I probably would have sat in that class and said "holly crap" and then been left with the decision to learn what I could in the time allotted or figure another way to reach my goal.
I would prefer the former option, but reading your summary of the class and the attitude bleeding from it, I would have probably looked for the later.
Ahh, could you give those of us who are concerned about our grammatical capabilities some information on ways to improve? Such as books or tutorials.
Who dat screwing with my big TV?
The problem is that a lot of the research within academia and government is being done for corporations or by corporations.
Did you see that little commercial with the man with the funny ? suit saying there's free government money.
Well I can tell you most of it goes to corporations or companies where they do the research.
The thing about the research is that the company doesn't have to divulge everything they found to receive the money.
All they have to do is show that they tried. In the mean time they may have found out if they tweak things a little bit then they get the results they want. They don't have to tell anyone. They can submit their papers and then later on say surprise we found a nifty twist that makes it work, by the way we are patenting it.
So commercialism is dictating where science progresses.
Like it or not this is the direction we are headed until grants and funding are given to academia to support this kind of research. Usually academia can't afford the equipment and maintenance cost associated with running experiments with the latest technology.
very strange how you would blame this on Obama, when it was GWB who sent out the first $740 Billion and the economy tanked and the signs that the economy were going to tank all occurred while GWB was president.
Some people really do have selective memories.
And exactly who are you?
Yeah , but if we had taken GWB actions more seriously when he was younger and at his last few jobs then we could have saved ourselves a world of hurt.
Yeah , unless your the head of a corporation, president or a congressman, your just going to have to take it.
The other possibility is to swing the pendulum the other way and hack into or take down a government installation. Then they'll hire you.
Or you could try to become the figure head of a small country and slaughter thousands( I think the magical number is 2,000).
But since you appear to be just starting out, well you are basically screwed. But get the job anyway, even if they offer you lower pay. Once they trust you then wreak havoc, if it's a large company (then later you can write a book about it and go on speaking tours on the evil of hacking and/or corporate espionage). I mean look for opportunities. I mean, take me for instance, I'm sitting here with another computer, just ready to release virulent shit at a mouse click. No way am I going down for just reading and posting to slashdot.
I would, but Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Apple all pay more than what a good novel would bring.
James Patterson
Damn, you didn't miss a meeting did you?
What did you expect from a Democrat., tu quoque.
Yeah we are, it's what we do best badmouth the system. When it comes time to change the system, that's when we go "Rogue"
Samba seemed to have a good start on correcting all of this, but lately I find there documentation lacking and confusing, partly because they have various versions running in parallel with different capabilities. But looking at the latest documentation it appears that they have thrown in the towel.
I hate to use Samba as an example, because their attempts at documenting a server application have come a lot further than most, but it serves as an example of a major effort that still is falling short. Given how close they are you can see the disconnect between the people doing the documentation and the developers.
So based on what I see within Samba group , it appears that this is a management issue and I guarantee you that in most other projects the issue is the same.
The developers say that they have implemented xyz and gotten it to work. Someone works with them and gets xyz to work and documents it, but it is documented for one flavor of linux and for one installation. But it is considered finished and documented.
With regards to other applications, some of the wiki efforts are helping, but they are also lacking in some respects. A major hole I see is that a lot of documentation is done for lab environments, not for production full scale environments with security
. Here are some examples I ran across last night. I was working on a simple page after being away from coding for web interface for 6 months and was just googling. I was looking for HTML attributes and came across that and
were being deprecated. No examples. links were given for what to do instead, just that they were deprecated and you shouldn't use them anymore.
I also wanted to check the DATETIME format for MySQL and php. Googled that, and was taken to a five page article on how to use DateTime functions in MySQL. I realized rather quickly this is not what I wanted, but was amazed that here was an article on manipulating DATE and TIME in MySQL using built-in functions and there was nothing in the title that indicated this was just MySQL functions. The main reference to PHP was to not use it to do manipulation.
Oh, well. I truly believe that this is going to go on forever. slashdot could have an article a day for the next year on bad documentation and we would still be in the same place 2 years from now.
Good things I see, some of the documentation is getting better and there is more of it.
Bad, there is still a major disconnect between users and writers of documentation.
Recommendations: Reward documenters. How many documenters do you know vs developers in the linux community?
Make documentation it's own branch of linux, flavor it, compete. Someone may like this version of documentation over another, but let's not abandon a documentation style, just make documentation distributions, so to speak.
We do need to cull down documentation. How many frigging times do we need documentation on a basic linux setup or samba installation in a workgroup environment
If I were a company that wanted to cripple the adoption of linux, one of the things I would do is distribute on the web about 30 versions of a basic document or how to, or 20 versions of a complex how to (giving an explanation of TCP/IP and burying the examples of basic network configuration in the article)
I think RedHat made a good start overall, but lately their documentation has become incomplete or difficult to figure out where to find the information you are looking for.
Amazon would still have an advantage. I can order from Amazon at midnight from home after spending 4 hours researching online. With WalMart I still have to drive someplace where I wouldn't normally be going.
buy directly from china.
I just saw your comment and it is wonderful, no typos, and it was punctuated effectively, can't wait to finish reading it.
Heck, I live in Texas and I can step outside and face 4 different directions (no mirrors) and shoot a Starbucks.