Actually @home blocked most of the *highspeed* groups a long time ago. The
only ones availible are:
->U 4748 alt.binaries.games.kidstuff.highspeed
U 2227 alt.binaries.gdead.highspeed
U 1159 alt.binaries.gdead.highspeed.reposts
U 2810 alt.binaries.sounds.radio.oldtime.highspeed
U 197 can.internet.highspeed
I just checked and I can still get alt.binaries.movies.purity and
alt.binaries.movies. I wonder how effectively this will be carried out. Oh
well, if this gets too bad, @home users can always use an alternate news
server. The @home groups have a habit of not having good retention time
anyway. Supernews is pretty good, from what I hear.
That's pretty funny. They did/tried that in DC. The only problem with it was
it was fairly visible and in the rougher parts of DC, the drug dealers on the
corner started shooting them out so they wouldn't be on film.
In an earlier post, I speculated that with the recent software upgrade that
affected non-subscribers, quite a few people who had beforehand, left TiVo
somewhat alone, would start the hacking for real. Looks like this is the case.
And before (I haven't read any of the slashdot posts, yet) people start saying
how this will bring down TiVo, and its wrong, etc, I would like to present two
possible interpretations of this.
One, its self-protection. We can't rely on any company to hold our best interests
at heart. Note that I am not saying companies are evil, (tho I think they are,
to a certain degree) but that a company is like any other organism. They have their
best interests at heart, first and foremost, or they will not be around for long. If TiVo does
something inane or goes out of business, there are gonna be a lot of people
with dead TiVos. This way, we have a backup plan, that will allow continued
use of our TiVo.
Two, I really don't think this will bring down TiVo. If any
of the big players, ie, DirectTV, MPAA, etc (possibly even the RIAA, I have
recorded some digital music from my cable provider onto my tivo, the jazz music
channels and the like) come after TiVo about this, all they would have to do is
point to some of the video cards out there that explicitly state that they allow
you to capture live tv and record to CDR. I quote from the forum below:
"I mean
http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr_datasheet.h tm is something much more
deadly.
From their site:
"Watch and record your TV shows with instant replay and program pause. Burn your
favorite TV shows onto CD-ROM and play them on your home DVD player Includes hi-performance
hardware MPEG2 encoder."
Let TiVo point at that if they encounter any legal troubles regarding what
people are doing with the hardware. I for one, look forward to implementing
this and any other interesting hacks that evolve for this piece of hardware
that I own in its entirety.
"Oh, another point, you don't have to _sign_ anything to agree to a contract. In
the states, you don't have to sign any forms for phone service, and you certainly
don't have to sign anything to agree to a software license... even prior to
UCITA."
No, your right, you don't have to *sign* anything to agree to a contract,
however you do have to agree, hence the "clicking OK" on software licenses.
If I am presented with no contract and even if I am presented with a contract
and I don't agree to it, I am under no contractual obligation. My purchasing
a piece of hardware cannot be conscured as my agreeing to a legally binding
contract. If I buy a phone in a store, I don't HAVE to
purchase phone service with anyone, either now or in the future. I can do
whatever I like physically to the phone, and if the phone
company were to do something that effected the software of my phone, I would be
extremely pissed. So would most *reasonal* people. Unfortunately, that
particular breed of person is becoming rare.
"Um... have you purchase a Tivo??? Read the agreements that *you* agree to when
you purchase it... you agree to sign up for the service. The service is one of
the features clearly listed all over the damn place. Just because it's a
"feature" you have to pay for does not make it any less a feature. Sorry, you
are wrong."
If your talking to me, then yes, I have purchased a TiVo. What part of "plucked
down $400 for a silver vcr" didn't you understand? I don't recall
ANY agreements that I agreed to when I purchased it, let alone
any agreements that were presented to me. I walked in, pointed, paid, left. No big
stickers, no flashing lights, nothing. I agreed to buy a silver box. Thats
it. As for your arguement that its a "feature", a feature is not something
you are legally obligated to use, nor pay for if you don't require that
"feature".
Sorry, but I have a TiVo. Where exactly is the agreement that implicitly
states that I have agreed to purchase the service? I don't recall agreeing to
anything other than plucking down my $400 for a silver digital vcr. Nowhere
did it say, "by purchasing this hardware, you agree to purchase the service."
Additionally, even if this was the case, a contract is not valid unless both
parties agree to it. I never had any intention of using the service nor will
I. This basically just gave everyone with a TiVo a heads-up that they need to
make a backup of the hard drive pronto. I, for one am glad that I never
purchased the service and this is a pretty low move on TiVo's part.
Additionally, quite a few people with TiVos have left them alone because they
have been so nice and gracious about the hard drive hacks (pretending, of
course that they could do anything about me ripping apart hardware I paid for).
I wonder if those same people will leave them alone now.
The part that scared me, was that the top 200 had more money then the world's
govt. combined. Makes the notion of big business influencing govt. much more
pleusable.
Thats the problem. The hacker trojaned the ssh binary on a *shell* server that
the ISP was providing. So, some admin jumped onto the shell server and ssh'ed
from that to the OSDN boxes.
SealBeater
Re:I'm more worried about the precompiled binarys
on
Themes.org Cracked
·
· Score: 1
Yea, an ftp install would be real nice. I believe the problem with that is/was
that Patrick had limited bandwidth and couldn't support the cost of allowing
everyone to leech when they installed. Be nice if there was a way to mirror
content and search amoung a list of availible ftp servers. I personally would
host one. Always a problem with verifying packages, but that is what GnuPG is
for 8*) Anyway, hope you find checkinstall useful.
As far as I know, slackware (as of 7.1) doesn't support ftp installs. As far as keeping track of installed programs compliled from source, I have found checkinstall to be absolutely wonderfull. You run it and it makes a slack package for the program and does pkginstall on it. Hence, when you want to upgrade, remove or just look at what you got installed, you just run pkgtool. Its very cool and I recommend that people check it out. Look on freshmeat for it. Also, slack-current is very up to date.
Hey, I'll join in. Using slack-sparc on an Ultra 2 at work, slack 7.1 on my work laptop (dell cpi PII-400) and a server under my desk, and a dual 600 PII rackmount (Dell PowerEdge). Also use it at home on 7 computers doing just about everything.
Hmmm...would the brave and intelligent moderator care to inform me in exactly
what way was that a troll? I simply stated that I was glad that I hadn't
bought a windows copy yet because I had no idea that Loki was porting this one
and that I was looking forward to spending a great deal of time playing. I
fail to see how that can be considered trolling.
Glad that I haven't bought Tribes 2 yet. Anybody know if there will be
cross-compatable binaries availible a la Quake3? Even if not, doesn't matter,
I just found a new source of computer crack 8*)
Security is a joke. Our current Top 5 dedicated hosting provider allows easy
access to all customer accounts, and I mean easy, no hacking, no passwords, nothing. It's
so easy it's not even newsworthy. I like it because I never have to logon, passwords are a pain. And
they have yet to patch a security hole either.
Wait a minute...you like that fact that you never have to logon because
passwords are a pain and then you complain about their security? And you
continue to stay with them? Let me guess, when your machines are rooted and
you are thoughly owned, you are going to blame the hosting provider when you
KNEW they had lax security? Personally, your more of a danger
to your customer's information then they are. Its like the saying "if the dog
bites you once, its the dog's fault. If the dog bites you twice, its yours"
I work as a computer security officer for a hosting company. I can tell you
that as far as my company is concerned, where the blame lies resides on the
type of contract you have. For instance, if you have what we call Dedicated
root, that means that you have the root password, and wiether its colocated
(where you bring in your own machine) or leased (you got the machine from us),
you are responsible for the security integrity of the box. Now, if your a
shared or managed costomer (just a vhost on a box with many others or a box
leased from us with the understanding that we are the sys
admins, then it is our responsiblity to maintain it. It sounds like you were
in the latter group and they are simply trying to pass the buck. There is no
way you should pay for their laxness. However, if there is nothing in the
contract sippulating what they are responsible for, I don't see what legal
recourse you may or may not have. I would perhaps check with an attorney,
however I would definately look for another hosting provider.
Slashdot Mirror
Actually @home blocked most of the *highspeed* groups a long time ago. The only ones availible are:
->U 4748 alt.binaries.games.kidstuff.highspeed
U 2227 alt.binaries.gdead.highspeed
U 1159 alt.binaries.gdead.highspeed.reposts
U 2810 alt.binaries.sounds.radio.oldtime.highspeed
U 197 can.internet.highspeed
SealBeater
I just checked and I can still get alt.binaries.movies.purity and alt.binaries.movies. I wonder how effectively this will be carried out. Oh well, if this gets too bad, @home users can always use an alternate news server. The @home groups have a habit of not having good retention time anyway. Supernews is pretty good, from what I hear.
SealBeater
That's pretty funny. They did/tried that in DC. The only problem with it was it was fairly visible and in the rougher parts of DC, the drug dealers on the corner started shooting them out so they wouldn't be on film.
SealBeater
Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool
SealBeater br>
In an earlier post, I speculated that with the recent software upgrade that affected non-subscribers, quite a few people who had beforehand, left TiVo somewhat alone, would start the hacking for real. Looks like this is the case. And before (I haven't read any of the slashdot posts, yet) people start saying how this will bring down TiVo, and its wrong, etc, I would like to present two possible interpretations of this.
h tm is something much more
deadly.
From their site:
"Watch and record your TV shows with instant replay and program pause. Burn your
favorite TV shows onto CD-ROM and play them on your home DVD player Includes hi-performance
hardware MPEG2 encoder."
Let TiVo point at that if they encounter any legal troubles regarding what
people are doing with the hardware. I for one, look forward to implementing
this and any other interesting hacks that evolve for this piece of hardware
that I own in its entirety.
One, its self-protection. We can't rely on any company to hold our best interests at heart. Note that I am not saying companies are evil, (tho I think they are, to a certain degree) but that a company is like any other organism. They have their best interests at heart, first and foremost, or they will not be around for long. If TiVo does something inane or goes out of business, there are gonna be a lot of people with dead TiVos. This way, we have a backup plan, that will allow continued use of our TiVo.
Two, I really don't think this will bring down TiVo. If any of the big players, ie, DirectTV, MPAA, etc (possibly even the RIAA, I have recorded some digital music from my cable provider onto my tivo, the jazz music channels and the like) come after TiVo about this, all they would have to do is point to some of the video cards out there that explicitly state that they allow you to capture live tv and record to CDR. I quote from the forum below: "I mean http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr_datasheet.
SealBeater
"Oh, another point, you don't have to _sign_ anything to agree to a contract. In the states, you don't have to sign any forms for phone service, and you certainly don't have to sign anything to agree to a software license... even prior to UCITA."
No, your right, you don't have to *sign* anything to agree to a contract, however you do have to agree, hence the "clicking OK" on software licenses. If I am presented with no contract and even if I am presented with a contract and I don't agree to it, I am under no contractual obligation. My purchasing a piece of hardware cannot be conscured as my agreeing to a legally binding contract. If I buy a phone in a store, I don't HAVE to purchase phone service with anyone, either now or in the future. I can do whatever I like physically to the phone, and if the phone company were to do something that effected the software of my phone, I would be extremely pissed. So would most *reasonal* people. Unfortunately, that particular breed of person is becoming rare.
SealBeater
"Um... have you purchase a Tivo??? Read the agreements that *you* agree to when you purchase it... you agree to sign up for the service. The service is one of the features clearly listed all over the damn place. Just because it's a "feature" you have to pay for does not make it any less a feature. Sorry, you are wrong."
If your talking to me, then yes, I have purchased a TiVo. What part of "plucked down $400 for a silver vcr" didn't you understand? I don't recall ANY agreements that I agreed to when I purchased it, let alone any agreements that were presented to me. I walked in, pointed, paid, left. No big stickers, no flashing lights, nothing. I agreed to buy a silver box. Thats it. As for your arguement that its a "feature", a feature is not something you are legally obligated to use, nor pay for if you don't require that "feature".
SealBeater
Sorry, but I have a TiVo. Where exactly is the agreement that implicitly states that I have agreed to purchase the service? I don't recall agreeing to anything other than plucking down my $400 for a silver digital vcr. Nowhere did it say, "by purchasing this hardware, you agree to purchase the service." Additionally, even if this was the case, a contract is not valid unless both parties agree to it. I never had any intention of using the service nor will I. This basically just gave everyone with a TiVo a heads-up that they need to make a backup of the hard drive pronto. I, for one am glad that I never purchased the service and this is a pretty low move on TiVo's part. Additionally, quite a few people with TiVos have left them alone because they have been so nice and gracious about the hard drive hacks (pretending, of course that they could do anything about me ripping apart hardware I paid for). I wonder if those same people will leave them alone now.
SealBeater
>if X is not responsive enough for you, recompile your Linux kernel with HZ = 1000
Where in the kernel do you make this change?
SealBeater
The part that scared me, was that the top 200 had more money then the world's govt. combined. Makes the notion of big business influencing govt. much more pleusable.
SealBeater
Thats the problem. The hacker trojaned the ssh binary on a *shell* server that the ISP was providing. So, some admin jumped onto the shell server and ssh'ed from that to the OSDN boxes.
SealBeater
How do you know, if I may ask?
SealBeater
The only one I can think of is Worms Armageddon. That game uses WinCE.
SealBeater
I have used it on both an Ultra 5 and an Ultra 2. Very happy with the performance on both.
SealBeater
Fireworks were used in warfare to signal troops, if I recall correctly.
SealBeater
Look for a program called DeadAim. It replaces the AIM binary, works fine and removes all the banner ads. You can find it here
SealBeater
Yea, an ftp install would be real nice. I believe the problem with that is/was that Patrick had limited bandwidth and couldn't support the cost of allowing everyone to leech when they installed. Be nice if there was a way to mirror content and search amoung a list of availible ftp servers. I personally would host one. Always a problem with verifying packages, but that is what GnuPG is for 8*) Anyway, hope you find checkinstall useful.
SealBeater
As far as I know, slackware (as of 7.1) doesn't support ftp installs. As far as keeping track of installed programs compliled from source, I have found checkinstall to be absolutely wonderfull. You run it and it makes a slack package for the program and does pkginstall on it. Hence, when you want to upgrade, remove or just look at what you got installed, you just run pkgtool. Its very cool and I recommend that people check it out. Look on freshmeat for it. Also, slack-current is very up to date.
SealBeater
Hey, I'll join in. Using slack-sparc on an Ultra 2 at work, slack 7.1 on my work laptop (dell cpi PII-400) and a server under my desk, and a dual 600 PII rackmount (Dell PowerEdge). Also use it at home on 7 computers doing just about everything.
SealBeater
Hmmm...would the brave and intelligent moderator care to inform me in exactly what way was that a troll? I simply stated that I was glad that I hadn't bought a windows copy yet because I had no idea that Loki was porting this one and that I was looking forward to spending a great deal of time playing. I fail to see how that can be considered trolling.
SealBeater
Glad that I haven't bought Tribes 2 yet. Anybody know if there will be cross-compatable binaries availible a la Quake3? Even if not, doesn't matter, I just found a new source of computer crack 8*)
SealBeater
hmm...loot.com? Do they ship?
SealBeater
Security is a joke. Our current Top 5 dedicated hosting provider allows easy access to all customer accounts, and I mean easy, no hacking, no passwords, nothing. It's so easy it's not even newsworthy. I like it because I never have to logon, passwords are a pain. And they have yet to patch a security hole either.
Wait a minute...you like that fact that you never have to logon because passwords are a pain and then you complain about their security? And you continue to stay with them? Let me guess, when your machines are rooted and you are thoughly owned, you are going to blame the hosting provider when you KNEW they had lax security? Personally, your more of a danger to your customer's information then they are. Its like the saying "if the dog bites you once, its the dog's fault. If the dog bites you twice, its yours"
SealBeater
I would just like to point out that "chmod -R Rob or Bob or whatever /" would
return an error. I think the command you are thinking off is chown.
SealBeater
I work as a computer security officer for a hosting company. I can tell you that as far as my company is concerned, where the blame lies resides on the type of contract you have. For instance, if you have what we call Dedicated root, that means that you have the root password, and wiether its colocated (where you bring in your own machine) or leased (you got the machine from us), you are responsible for the security integrity of the box. Now, if your a shared or managed costomer (just a vhost on a box with many others or a box leased from us with the understanding that we are the sys admins, then it is our responsiblity to maintain it. It sounds like you were in the latter group and they are simply trying to pass the buck. There is no way you should pay for their laxness. However, if there is nothing in the contract sippulating what they are responsible for, I don't see what legal recourse you may or may not have. I would perhaps check with an attorney, however I would definately look for another hosting provider.
SealBeater