The people Apple may be suing may not necessarily be Apple employees. There are probably plenty of contractors out there required to produce Apple products.
Most likely, some of them may have violated their NDA. It happens all the time. All those reviews of OS X DP4 are not permitted under the Apple NDA (which you have to agree to in order to get the software)
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Classic Mac OS has had an X server for years now! I believe the original 1.0 MacX was released in 1995. I'm still running the 2.0 MacX (1997) on my Lombard and it kicks ass!
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The government still needs certain data on you of course; i.e. Tax Returns, Criminal Records, etc. The only difference is that you no longer can get all that in one database.
Yes, they are unlinking the database and to get to parts of the database that your department doesn't normally get access to requires approval from the higher-ups in the different ministries. Despite all the brouhaha about not destroying data, there *ARE* legitimate uses for that data. I mean, governments still need to do research right?
It's been rumoured that the Terminal.app will not ship with the release version of OS X. it will likely be an undocumented download (a la ResEdit)
Hacking with DP3, (I haven't touched DP4 yet) it was pretty much all BSD userland. It comes with GCC and the libraries needed to compile any of the BSD tools that you want. (Though I remember that it was a fairly complete set.) Back then, DP3 didn't even have a web browser, so I promptly fired up Terminal.app, ftp'd the Lynx source and compiled. Viola! Instant browser.
BTW, Terminal.app defaults to/bin/tcsh, but good ol' bash is availible too.
It's not overkill if you want it to scale up. As with all things internet, growth tends to follow an exponential curve. Rather than get by with what you have and have to keep adding to it, you buy whatever you can afford and hope you don't have to upgrade every week to meet demand.
Personally, I would have gone for Sun and Oracle on a E3500-E6500 for a DB server, pricey, but well worth the reduced headaches. but I suppose this *IS* Slashdot... you gotta eat your own dog food.
AFAIK, Microsoft has already carbonized IE and OE. From there, it isn't a far stretch to port it to Cocoa.
As for Office, Office 2001 is presumably carbonized as well. I don't think any major software development house isn't currently in the process of carbonizing their Macintosh apps (at least) I know that we are writing to the carbon API right now.
The WO price drop will be a boon to WO developers. We are currently developing on WebObjects and it is *sweet*, unfortunately, there are only about 4000 developers worldwide right now.
Hopefully this will get some more people developing on WO.
Still waiting for the O'Reilly WebObjects book though...
Well, you could always hack on OSX DP3 (or DP4, though I have heard it's out there, I haven't seen it yet).
BTW, It *IS* one kick-ass OS. DP3 was very stable when I was hacking around with it, just sluggish because of the debug code. I thought it was very close to going gold then.
There must be something seriously fscked up if Jobs wants to hold it back another 6 months, though.
Is this a new phenomenon in the United States? Up here in Canada, we've been paying bills online for ages now. Just about all the financial institutions out there have some sort of online interface to do all your banking (Banks, Trust Companies, Even the CU's!)
Disclaimer: I do not work for any financial institution
Take a look at the demo of the online banking features of my particular institution: Canada Trust
Speaking of different computer systems, what I would like is like a laptop, except without the built-in keyboard, but with the computer bits built in to the screen. Add touchscreen tech so it's like a Palm, only with a 10"+ screen, full color, ability to run "real" OSes, etc. (With USB and maybe firewire for adding external devices, including keyboards, mice, et al.) Give it a roll-up screen cover for protection, or some other screen protection that keeps out of the way while using the device. I wonder if anyone is working on such a beast? Try the people working with Transmeta.
hear hear! The original IBM "tank" keyboards still RULE! A close second would have to be the first generation Dell keyboards... The ones with the backspace and backslash keys in the right places (backslash above return and backspace above that, not that silly next-to-each-other configuration).
When I first started this job, I got stuck with one of those Apple "kid" keyboards and hockey-puck mouse and was yearning for the old ADB keyboard and mouse.
Now I've got one of those spiffy translucent Macally keyboards and mouse. It's not a "tank" but still pretty good.
My Palm IIIe is my calendar, addressbook, etc. (all those things it was designed for) Plus: for a sysadmin who has a bunch of machines to administer, it is a password database, a remote SSH session (When paired with a PCS phone)
Well, given a world population of about 6 billion. 0.1% works out to about 6 million people. Which I think is about accurate... I know the linux registry estimates an installed user base of 12 million, but at least half of them have got to be users that either had it set-up for them or installed it on a "trial" basis and the moved away from it...
I think my question fits right in with your train of thought here...
Why do you want linux on the desktop?
I think Linux fills an important niche. It brings reliability and performace to low to mid volume servers. Linux doesn't do well with databases that serve up 70,000 concurrent connections, (That's what my SUN E6500 is for) nor does it make things easier for users who want to do basic word processing and spreadsheet functions?
I think Linux here is simply out of place. We use Linux for file servers and data routers, but it would seem odd to use it in place of a proven high-volume back-end or on the desktop (Most of my users have Macs, and we just got the DP3 release of OS X)
Love linux for what it does well. Don't try to make it the end-all and be-all of operating systems.
At least the MacOS has always had a *consistent* look and feel...
Remember the bad-old days of Win 3.x? Some apps had ctrl-c for copy, others had ctrl-del... The same is true with current *nix utilities. I can never remember which flags go where; and don't get me started with window managers.
HAH!
Granted, for someone coming over from a peecee background, the MacOS can be quite daunting.
It's called "innovation" my friend... Apple has consistently shown that it is willing to release new technologies to the (consumer) marketplace.
With any new technology, there is an adoption curve that has to take place. Look at the GUI that Apple brought to consumers... At first, there was nothing like it. Today, it seems absurd to release a consumer product with only a CLI.
Look at USB. Apple brought USB to the marketplace. Now everybody is jumping on the USB bandwagon. USB (IMHO) is a wonderful technology for PnP devices.
Wireless and Firewire have the potential to follow the same path... or they may die out with a legacy like Betamax, NuBus, or MCA.
The fact remains that Apple, unlike other companies, have taken the jump to release these new technologies.
I will grant you that the MacOS in its current incarnation is not exactly the most robust thing on the market... (I know, I support a Production environment with a dozen Sun boxes and about 50 MacOS servers) But with OSX, it'll be Apple that brings *nix to the desktop, not Linux... I'm sorry, but linux doesn't have consumer appeal. I run LinuxPPC on my Lombard here at work, I've run it at home on my x86 boxes. There just isn't that consumer appeal that Apple seems to have. Its robably related to Jobs' reality distortion field..
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The people Apple may be suing may not necessarily be Apple employees. There are probably plenty of contractors out there required to produce Apple products.
Most likely, some of them may have violated their NDA. It happens all the time. All those reviews of OS X DP4 are not permitted under the Apple NDA (which you have to agree to in order to get the software)
Classic Mac OS has had an X server for years now! I believe the original 1.0 MacX was released in 1995. I'm still running the 2.0 MacX (1997) on my Lombard and it kicks ass!
if you don't want to view doubleclick's ads, just point ads.doubleclick.net to 127.0.0.1 in your hosts file. That way, your browser will never be able to find their ads!
The government still needs certain data on you of course; i.e. Tax Returns, Criminal Records, etc. The only difference is that you no longer can get all that in one database.
Yes, they are unlinking the database and to get to parts of the database that your department doesn't normally get access to requires approval from the higher-ups in the different ministries. Despite all the brouhaha about not destroying data, there *ARE* legitimate uses for that data. I mean, governments still need to do research right?
You forget though...
BSD has a pedigree, it's one of the original UNIXes.
Linux is a mutt; but a well-engineered mutt.
It's been rumoured that the Terminal.app will not ship with the release version of OS X. it will likely be an undocumented download (a la ResEdit)
/bin/tcsh, but good ol' bash is availible too.
Hacking with DP3, (I haven't touched DP4 yet) it was pretty much all BSD userland. It comes with GCC and the libraries needed to compile any of the BSD tools that you want. (Though I remember that it was a fairly complete set.) Back then, DP3 didn't even have a web browser, so I promptly fired up Terminal.app, ftp'd the Lynx source and compiled. Viola! Instant browser.
BTW, Terminal.app defaults to
It is essentially a full BSD 4.4 box. In fact, when you telnet in, the /etc/issue is "4.4 BSD"
/etc, /usr, /var, /tmp plus a few mac-related extras that I can't reveal under NDA.
It has the standard BSD architecture,
It's not overkill if you want it to scale up. As with all things internet, growth tends to follow an exponential curve. Rather than get by with what you have and have to keep adding to it, you buy whatever you can afford and hope you don't have to upgrade every week to meet demand.
Personally, I would have gone for Sun and Oracle on a E3500-E6500 for a DB server, pricey, but well worth the reduced headaches. but I suppose this *IS* Slashdot... you gotta eat your own dog food.
What are you complaining about? WO is deployable *NOW* on Mac OS X Server and Solaris (probably others too).
AFAIK, Microsoft has already carbonized IE and OE. From there, it isn't a far stretch to port it to Cocoa.
As for Office, Office 2001 is presumably carbonized as well. I don't think any major software development house isn't currently in the process of carbonizing their Macintosh apps (at least) I know that we are writing to the carbon API right now.
The WO price drop will be a boon to WO developers. We are currently developing on WebObjects and it is *sweet*, unfortunately, there are only about 4000 developers worldwide right now.
Hopefully this will get some more people developing on WO.
Still waiting for the O'Reilly WebObjects book though...
Well, you could always hack on OSX DP3 (or DP4, though I have heard it's out there, I haven't seen it yet).
BTW, It *IS* one kick-ass OS. DP3 was very stable when I was hacking around with it, just sluggish because of the debug code. I thought it was very close to going gold then.
There must be something seriously fscked up if Jobs wants to hold it back another 6 months, though.
Darwin *IS* a full-blown OS in its own right. It's even been built over to x86 machines.
It's no slouch. I managed to actually have a functional Darwin System on my Lombard G3. I built emacs and lynx under it fine...
Is this a new phenomenon in the United States? Up here in Canada, we've been paying bills online for ages now. Just about all the financial institutions out there have some sort of online interface to do all your banking (Banks, Trust Companies, Even the CU's!)
Disclaimer:
I do not work for any financial institution
Take a look at the demo of the online banking features of my particular institution: Canada Trust
Speaking of different computer systems, what I would like is like a laptop, except without the built-in keyboard, but with the computer bits built in to the screen. Add touchscreen tech so it's like a Palm, only with a 10"+ screen, full color, ability to run "real" OSes, etc. (With USB and maybe firewire for adding external devices, including keyboards, mice, et al.) Give it a roll-up screen cover for protection, or some other screen protection that keeps out of the way while using the device. I wonder if anyone is working on such a beast?
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Try the people working with Transmeta.
S3, Quanta, etc...
http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,2
Actually, the name of the product is "Oh Ess Ten"
Not "Oh Ess Ex" that you are thinking of.
hear hear! The original IBM "tank" keyboards still RULE! A close second would have to be the first generation Dell keyboards... The ones with the backspace and backslash keys in the right places (backslash above return and backspace above that, not that silly next-to-each-other configuration).
When I first started this job, I got stuck with one of those Apple "kid" keyboards and hockey-puck mouse and was yearning for the old ADB keyboard and mouse.
Now I've got one of those spiffy translucent Macally keyboards and mouse. It's not a "tank" but still pretty good.
It remains to be seen if they will open the source (I doubt it). More likely, they will provide a binary RPM to go with RHATs distro.
There are a thousand excuses to have one!
My Palm IIIe is my calendar, addressbook, etc. (all those things it was designed for) Plus: for a sysadmin who has a bunch of machines to administer, it is a password database, a remote SSH session (When paired with a PCS phone)
Well, given a world population of about 6 billion. 0.1% works out to about 6 million people. Which I think is about accurate... I know the linux registry estimates an installed user base of 12 million, but at least half of them have got to be users that either had it set-up for them or installed it on a "trial" basis and the moved away from it...
Sorry, that's 70,000 total users... not concurrent connections.
I think my question fits right in with your train of thought here...
Why do you want linux on the desktop?
I think Linux fills an important niche. It brings reliability and performace to low to mid volume servers. Linux doesn't do well with databases that serve up 70,000 concurrent connections, (That's what my SUN E6500 is for) nor does it make things easier for users who want to do basic word processing and spreadsheet functions?
I think Linux here is simply out of place. We use Linux for file servers and data routers, but it would seem odd to use it in place of a proven high-volume back-end or on the desktop (Most of my users have Macs, and we just got the DP3 release of OS X)
Love linux for what it does well. Don't try to make it the end-all and be-all of operating systems.
My $0.02
If you are going to include GST, it should be 2.14c CDN.
At least the MacOS has always had a *consistent* look and feel...
Remember the bad-old days of Win 3.x? Some apps had ctrl-c for copy, others had ctrl-del... The same is true with current *nix utilities. I can never remember which flags go where; and don't get me started with window managers.
HAH!
Granted, for someone coming over from a peecee background, the MacOS can be quite daunting.
It's called "innovation" my friend... Apple has consistently shown that it is willing to release new technologies to the (consumer) marketplace.
With any new technology, there is an adoption curve that has to take place. Look at the GUI that Apple brought to consumers... At first, there was nothing like it. Today, it seems absurd to release a consumer product with only a CLI.
Look at USB. Apple brought USB to the marketplace. Now everybody is jumping on the USB bandwagon. USB (IMHO) is a wonderful technology for PnP devices.
Wireless and Firewire have the potential to follow the same path... or they may die out with a legacy like Betamax, NuBus, or MCA.
The fact remains that Apple, unlike other companies, have taken the jump to release these new technologies.
I will grant you that the MacOS in its current incarnation is not exactly the most robust thing on the market... (I know, I support a Production environment with a dozen Sun boxes and about 50 MacOS servers) But with OSX, it'll be Apple that brings *nix to the desktop, not Linux... I'm sorry, but linux doesn't have consumer appeal. I run LinuxPPC on my Lombard here at work, I've run it at home on my x86 boxes. There just isn't that consumer appeal that Apple seems to have. Its robably related to Jobs' reality distortion field..
Ok kids... Flame away!