To make it even more difficult, what is considered mental illness can depend on society's values. Crazy in one part of the world may or may not be crazy in another.
We need to be caring and non-judgmental in as far as possible. How many truly disturbed people want to be that way? Or even realize it? Yes, society needs to protect itself from those who may be dangerous (and we'd better be careful where we draw that line; mental hospitals are used to incarcerate dissidents in some places) but passing judgment can become a losing game.
It's so easy to deliberately miss the point. What I objected to was politicizing science by tying it to a leftist agenda. I didn't question the science part, quite the contrary. Science is what it is. I don't have to like (or dislike) science's results, but I definitely have to live with them.
You don't get it. The OP wants us to conclude that all this is happening because we are Bad People, because we are not behind the SJW agenda, etc. etc.
Now, I'm NOT saying that man-made global warming is not happening. What I am saying is that tying objective science to a leftist political agenda may not be the best way to get everyone on board.
Could we please just let the science speak for itself and act accordingly?
To be fair, there are FOSS solutions that do these things on a local/group basis. There's lots of groupware that provides most of these functions.
But I do have to admit that Microsoft has the whole stack, if you want to buy into it and pay the price. I don't agree that the individual elements of the stack are anything like best in class, but the integration is definitely there, and it's scalable beyond most FOSS groupware (at least as far as I know the market).
You make a good point. A UI that is slick and wonderful may not be especially good in usability. You need to be able to understand it, you need to be able to find things, and it all needs to work with minimal effort. In that regard, I find that simpler is generally better.
The command line was the ultimate in simplicity, but you couldn't "find" anything --- you had to know the commands (I love the command line, but that isn't the point here). On the other end is multiple ribbons, obscure icons with no text, and multi-layered menus, all with nice bright colors and animation and other things that as often as not, just make it harder to figure out.
Even as a Linux fanboy, I agree with this statement. I don't care if you run iOS or Windows or if you think Linux isn't ready for the desktop. I'm quite happy, just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. Except you aren't alone, are you, with Microsoft/Apple watching over your every move, but that's not my problem; if you don't care I don't care.
Yes, women are intelligent, powerful, and capable, but here's a point that I've tried to make before.
While it's true that when some men treat women badly, women are capable of standing up for themselves and don't need men to do it for them, men still need to object, because the bad actions of other men unfortunately reflect poorly on all men.
No, it shouldn't be that way--- lumping men together--- but still, many people do that (and they in turn need to stop).
Women don't need men to defend them. But men need to stand up for what's right anyway.
I'm missing something here. With all the flap about systemd, why the rush of all the distros to adopt it? I'm on Mint, but even that is slated to go to systemd at the next major release. Binary logs, etc.? No thanks.
This reminds me of a situation some years ago; we had set up a Linux server installation with the usual LAMP stack and it was all working fine. Some so-called consultants came in and visited top management, trying to convince them to throw out the software and replace it with Microsoft IIS. The bottom line on that, of course, was that this group didn't/couldn't support a Linux installation, and made their living supporting Microsoft products. Which stack would have served the customer better was of no concern to them, it was which one could they make money from.
Actually, you're an idiot. Even with a worn code, you could have called Microsoft, explained the situation, and they would have granted you an activation code on the spot. You won't get that kind of customer service out of Canonical, I guarantee it.
And you wouldn't need it, either. No activation codes with Ubuntu...
(Yes, I'm deliberately missing/modifying the point. But the statement stands; Ubuntu is open and free.)
Celebrate what it is. A fantastic server OS. A viable desktop for the technologically savvy.
You left out the most important thing: the basis for a tablet/phone operating system used by millions and millions.
The year of Linux on the desktop may never come. But the year of Linux on mainstream mobile devices has long arrived. (And whether you like Android or not is as irrelevant as whether you like Windows or not.)
You're kind of proving the point that Linux isn't ready for the desktop. People who buy a Windows desktop generally get things working. People who end up with Linux are geeks, or being hand held by a geek.
Is all of this true? I ask this as a genuine question.
1) Is Linux ready for the desktop? Depends whose desktop. It's certainly ready for mine. But I won't argue the point that it isn't mainstream.
2) The big claim you make, that people who buy a Windows desktop generally get things working (sans being/being guided by a geek). Is that really the case? Granted there are fewer driver issues, etc., since manufacturers target Windows platforms, and the above cited case of the TV, some devices simply don't support Linux... but does the average Windows user really "get things working" most of the time?
3) Yes, behind a Linux installation there is usually a geek somewhere. My wife uses Linux, but I set it up and maintain it. That's true of a lot of people. They are quite able to use Linux, but can't support it. (Although I doubt they could support Windows, either.)
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To make it even more difficult, what is considered mental illness can depend on society's values. Crazy in one part of the world may or may not be crazy in another.
We need to be caring and non-judgmental in as far as possible. How many truly disturbed people want to be that way? Or even realize it? Yes, society needs to protect itself from those who may be dangerous (and we'd better be careful where we draw that line; mental hospitals are used to incarcerate dissidents in some places) but passing judgment can become a losing game.
The original article is paywalled and costs almost $40 to access. Thank you Springer, one of many greedy academic/scientific publishers.
irstfat ostpay. Get it right :)
It's so easy to deliberately miss the point. What I objected to was politicizing science by tying it to a leftist agenda. I didn't question the science part, quite the contrary. Science is what it is. I don't have to like (or dislike) science's results, but I definitely have to live with them.
I get modded to "-1 troll" because I question the OP, because I jab at SJWs, and because I plead for science to speak for itself?
You don't get it. The OP wants us to conclude that all this is happening because we are Bad People, because we are not behind the SJW agenda, etc. etc.
Now, I'm NOT saying that man-made global warming is not happening. What I am saying is that tying objective science to a leftist political agenda may not be the best way to get everyone on board.
Could we please just let the science speak for itself and act accordingly?
Here's outlook 2016.
http://windowsitpro.com/site-f...
Geez, what a mess.
Give me GNUS any day :)
Easy to say without saying why. Some of them look pretty good.
To be fair, there are FOSS solutions that do these things on a local/group basis. There's lots of groupware that provides most of these functions.
But I do have to admit that Microsoft has the whole stack, if you want to buy into it and pay the price. I don't agree that the individual elements of the stack are anything like best in class, but the integration is definitely there, and it's scalable beyond most FOSS groupware (at least as far as I know the market).
You make a good point. A UI that is slick and wonderful may not be especially good in usability. You need to be able to understand it, you need to be able to find things, and it all needs to work with minimal effort. In that regard, I find that simpler is generally better.
The command line was the ultimate in simplicity, but you couldn't "find" anything --- you had to know the commands (I love the command line, but that isn't the point here). On the other end is multiple ribbons, obscure icons with no text, and multi-layered menus, all with nice bright colors and animation and other things that as often as not, just make it harder to figure out.
But glitz sells, I suppose.
Even as a Linux fanboy, I agree with this statement. I don't care if you run iOS or Windows or if you think Linux isn't ready for the desktop. I'm quite happy, just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. Except you aren't alone, are you, with Microsoft/Apple watching over your every move, but that's not my problem; if you don't care I don't care.
Of course they are technically competent, they have to be to ensure that they minimize service and maximize ripping off their customers.
Sloppy writing and poor journalism on Slashdot? Do you expect anything less?
Yes, women are intelligent, powerful, and capable, but here's a point that I've tried to make before.
While it's true that when some men treat women badly, women are capable of standing up for themselves and don't need men to do it for them, men still need to object, because the bad actions of other men unfortunately reflect poorly on all men.
No, it shouldn't be that way--- lumping men together--- but still, many people do that (and they in turn need to stop).
Women don't need men to defend them. But men need to stand up for what's right anyway.
Global warming must have started a couple of thousand years earlier than we thought. Maybe they burned too many buffalo chips back then.
No kidding. Slashdot shilling for Microsoft is bad enough, but VERIZON?
There seems to be no limit on "how low can you go".
I guess you can always walk where you want to go, although it has certain limits on its practicality.
Definitely has limitations when you live in Hawai`i as I do.
But nevertheless Slashdot feels the need to tout it as the Coming Great Thing.
Turn in your SJW badge if you're going to blame the Dem-o-crats.
I'm missing something here. With all the flap about systemd, why the rush of all the distros to adopt it? I'm on Mint, but even that is slated to go to systemd at the next major release. Binary logs, etc.? No thanks.
This reminds me of a situation some years ago; we had set up a Linux server installation with the usual LAMP stack and it was all working fine. Some so-called consultants came in and visited top management, trying to convince them to throw out the software and replace it with Microsoft IIS. The bottom line on that, of course, was that this group didn't/couldn't support a Linux installation, and made their living supporting Microsoft products. Which stack would have served the customer better was of no concern to them, it was which one could they make money from.
Actually, you're an idiot. Even with a worn code, you could have called Microsoft, explained the situation, and they would have granted you an activation code on the spot. You won't get that kind of customer service out of Canonical, I guarantee it.
And you wouldn't need it, either. No activation codes with Ubuntu ...
(Yes, I'm deliberately missing/modifying the point. But the statement stands; Ubuntu is open and free.)
Celebrate what it is. A fantastic server OS. A viable desktop for the technologically savvy.
You left out the most important thing: the basis for a tablet/phone operating system used by millions and millions.
The year of Linux on the desktop may never come. But the year of Linux on mainstream mobile devices has long arrived. (And whether you like Android or not is as irrelevant as whether you like Windows or not.)
You're kind of proving the point that Linux isn't ready for the desktop. People who buy a Windows desktop generally get things working. People who end up with Linux are geeks, or being hand held by a geek.
Is all of this true? I ask this as a genuine question.
1) Is Linux ready for the desktop? Depends whose desktop. It's certainly ready for mine. But I won't argue the point that it isn't mainstream.
2) The big claim you make, that people who buy a Windows desktop generally get things working (sans being/being guided by a geek). Is that really the case? Granted there are fewer driver issues, etc., since manufacturers target Windows platforms, and the above cited case of the TV, some devices simply don't support Linux ... but does the average Windows user really "get things working" most of the time?
3) Yes, behind a Linux installation there is usually a geek somewhere. My wife uses Linux, but I set it up and maintain it. That's true of a lot of people. They are quite able to use Linux, but can't support it. (Although I doubt they could support Windows, either.)