1) Pa`i`ai kind of literally means "slapped food" or "beaten food" which refers to the pounding process to make poi. Poi is pounded taro diluted with water. Pa`i`ai is not diluted. This is interesting, and they'll ship pa`i`ai to you.
2) Poi is great with the right foods. Mixed with lomi lomi salmon --- `ono! (delicious).
3) As to judging a protest by uninformed members, no, it doesn't invalidate it, but when a large percentage of the protesters are there because the profs told them to go or because they get 'extra credit' or the like, it does raise some questions. Do they oppose the telescope because they were told they should, or because they understand the issue and took a stand?
4) Bear with me here. Understanding Hawai`i is not so easy. It is very different from the mainland. I like to describe it this way. If you consider the cultural differences between Manhattan and say, a small town in rural Mississippi, the gap is considerable but I describe the type of differences as being along the x-axis. The differences between New York and Tokyo are great, too, but those differences are of another type, and I describe them as being on the y-axis.
People come from the mainland to Hawai`i and expect cultural differences, of course, but they think that they're all on the x-axis. But they aren't. There are definite y-axis differences, too, and a lot of people don't get that. They are the ones who have trouble getting along or understanding the issues. Perhaps I had less trouble adapting because I've been married to an Asian for over 30 years, and I've dealt with y-axis differences. But I've watched people from the mainland come and later go, saying they just couldn't get along in a place like this.
Hawai`i is a very complex place, and there are no easy answers. The postings in this thread, I think, reinforce that opinion.
This whole discussion only serves to reinforce my feeling that there are no simple answers to complex issues.
But about the telescope--- I happened to be on the University of Hawai`i campus when one of the early protest demonstrations was starting up. I had to walk down Dole Street to get to where I was going and that meant traversing long lines of (very orderly and well-behaved) protesters.
Most of them were of course students. And listening to them a little, it seemed that quite a few of them weren't exactly informed on the issue. They were there because the Hawaiian Studies faculty told their students to go.
Something to be said on both sides of this issue, too.
I would suggest that Hawaii's strategic place in the Pacific has lead to a considerable influx of military money, military personnel and associated increase in the economy related to it
Absolutely correct, and as I understand it military is second only to tourism in importance in Hawai`i's economy. However, the "givers and takers" chart supposedly takes that into account, although I certainly admit military money is really important. Hawai`i's economy isn't terribly diversified.
As a haole[1] living in Hawai`i, I took the time to learn the history and some of the language.
You can't possibly study the events of 1893 and conclude that anything but a monstrous wrong was committed. (I'm writing a novel called "No keia la, no keia po" and to write it I had to read extensively about those days.)
I don't know how to right that wrong. The Hawaiian sovereignty movement has its own ideas, though I don't know how practical those ideas may be. But I do know that something really, really bad was done back then, and it shouldn't be set aside or forgotten.
[1] Today this generally means 'Caucasian' and is sometimes used in a derogatory manner, but in the Hawaiian language, it actually means 'foreigner' without judgmental overtones.
On the other hand, on balance, I'm not sure the US is getting much out of it; so perhaps Hawaii should be kicked out of the union altogether. We'd sure save a lot of money in subsidies.
I live in Hawai`i (though not a native Hawaiian), and I'd like to know what those subsidies are that other states don't also get. The chart here:
I was in management a good part of my career, and I learned this.
What management actually entails is the realization that it's not about you, it's about your employees.
As manager, you are there to do whatever you have to do to help them get their jobs done. Sure, at a certain level you might set direction, etc., but you work for them, not the other way around.
Managers who forget this and think it's about "being the boss" are bound to fail, sooner or later.
Yes, it doesn't apply, and that's the point. This person, like myself, avoids TV, because I simply don't want to pay for all this stuff. I might pay for/watch TV if companies offered me acceptable choices.
I *do* get updates to the "malicious software removal tool" on my stock, unbuggered XP SP3 installation. Other security updates, no, but I do get this minimal update from time to time.
I lived in North Dakota for a while. Just about everyone worked on their yard, their house, etc. and thought that everyone else should do and be the same. For instance, the first weekend in April everyone raked up their yards. There might still be some snow on the ground, but it was the first weekend of April and raking your yard was what you DID. Period. And so on.
I didn't do those things. I would rather read or do stuff on the computer or go for long bike rides in summer. I didn't fit the norm. But the thing was, while I was perfectly willing to understand that others could have different motivations and priorities, they wouldn't think the same way about me.
Before you assume that my yard was an eyesore and the house a wreck--- I hired out that work. Someone painted for me. Someone mowed for me. But that wasn't good enough, because I refused to be the same as everyone else.
So this is sort of the opposite of what the poster above is saying. I didn't think everyone thinks like me --- everyone else thought I should have thought like them.
Open source is a bullshit fad, and I cannot wait for MORE companies like Nvidia to flip the bird right back at the freetards who have hurt all of us developers.
Yes, of course. If it's bad, the US is to blame. And independent, totally unbiased, fair-minded and honest organizations with no agenda whatsoever, like the UN, ratify that conclusion at every opportunity.
Sounds like "he said - you said." Some actual facts would help the discussion.Buzzphrases like "bloated piece of bad software" on the one hand and "secure, enterprise-ready solutions" on the other, tell us nothing that can be used as the basis for a choice or decision.
I know very little about Active Directory, but I'm willing to learn if something of substance could be presented.
I actually had to read the article to figure this out. The statement that White wins 56% and Black 44% is for games in which a non-draw decision is reached (per the actual article). But with 10% to 33% draws, the actual difference in score is definitely lower. Conventional scoring is 1 for a win and 0.5 each for a draw.
So White does have a persistent advantage, but the spread is lower than 8% going by score. And I think you have to go by score, that's what counts in tournament play.
Let's say over the time period in question there are 20% draws (just for the sake of calculation). Out of 1000 games there are 200 draws. White wins 56% of 800 or 448, so Black wins 352. White scores 548, Black 452, or 54.8% to 45.2%. Still a clear White advantage, but somewhat less, and lesser still as we approach the modern 33% drawn.
I run a personal version of Office 365 after switching over from LibreOffice and let me just say that the two aren't even remotely comparable. LibreOffice is at least a decade behind MS Office and I can't believe I ever thought them equal.
I'm no fan of MS or MS Office, and I use Linux/LibreOffice myself. But I'm willing to try to be open-minded and listen to the other side, and you seem willing to present it in a logical fashion. Can you say in what way or ways LibreOffice lags MS Office so badly? I'm not talking about obscure features used by only a few people. A decade of lag implies some really fundamental problems. Can you elaborate?
I don't have any of that junk either... but I'm also an old codger who thinks email is modern and up-to-date, and since I play on chess.com I think I'm an advanced internet user:) I don't bother with Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, SnapChat, or any of the others. I sometimes wonder why I bother with/. for that matter.
But hey, I run Linux and I use Emacs org-mode, so I'm hip, right?
The internet can bring us information but we have to develop critical judgment on our own. That takes experience. However I think for someone willing to put in the effort, having a vast array of knowledge available can be very useful and an aid in the process of developing thinking skills.
I like it a lot more today when I can quickly look up nearly anything at all. The old days, when it took a trip to the library to consult likely out-of-date reference books, were certainly not as good.
Truman had to make the toughest decision any human being was ever called upon to make. It's easy to criticize in retrospect. He called it "a decision that would challenge the wisdom of Solomon himself." (approximate quote)
Was he right? Was he wrong? I think he did the best he could. Say what you want about his advisors, what information he had or didn't have, and so on, but in the end history would hold him and him alone responsible, and he knew it.
Norway, Sweden, Canada, etc., are not super-powers and don't have the same world role, like it or not.
Can the US be a better place? Absolutely. That's what we have to work for. America espouses high principles and when we don't live up to them that's a problem.
But is the US the worst place around, or even a bad place, as things go? Answer for yourself.
Let's try to build up the US, by making it better and striving toward those high principles that we ought to not just espouse but act out. But let's not just blindly tear the US down.
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1) Pa`i`ai kind of literally means "slapped food" or "beaten food" which refers to the pounding process to make poi. Poi is pounded taro diluted with water. Pa`i`ai is not diluted. This is interesting, and they'll ship pa`i`ai to you.
http://www.guavarose.com/2013/...
2) Poi is great with the right foods. Mixed with lomi lomi salmon --- `ono! (delicious).
3) As to judging a protest by uninformed members, no, it doesn't invalidate it, but when a large percentage of the protesters are there because the profs told them to go or because they get 'extra credit' or the like, it does raise some questions. Do they oppose the telescope because they were told they should, or because they understand the issue and took a stand?
4) Bear with me here. Understanding Hawai`i is not so easy. It is very different from the mainland. I like to describe it this way. If you consider the cultural differences between Manhattan and say, a small town in rural Mississippi, the gap is considerable but I describe the type of differences as being along the x-axis. The differences between New York and Tokyo are great, too, but those differences are of another type, and I describe them as being on the y-axis.
People come from the mainland to Hawai`i and expect cultural differences, of course, but they think that they're all on the x-axis. But they aren't. There are definite y-axis differences, too, and a lot of people don't get that. They are the ones who have trouble getting along or understanding the issues. Perhaps I had less trouble adapting because I've been married to an Asian for over 30 years, and I've dealt with y-axis differences. But I've watched people from the mainland come and later go, saying they just couldn't get along in a place like this.
Hawai`i is a very complex place, and there are no easy answers. The postings in this thread, I think, reinforce that opinion.
Poi is, um, an acquired taste.
This whole discussion only serves to reinforce my feeling that there are no simple answers to complex issues.
But about the telescope--- I happened to be on the University of Hawai`i campus when one of the early protest demonstrations was starting up. I had to walk down Dole Street to get to where I was going and that meant traversing long lines of (very orderly and well-behaved) protesters.
Most of them were of course students. And listening to them a little, it seemed that quite a few of them weren't exactly informed on the issue. They were there because the Hawaiian Studies faculty told their students to go.
Something to be said on both sides of this issue, too.
I would suggest that Hawaii's strategic place in the Pacific has lead to a considerable influx of military money, military personnel and associated increase in the economy related to it
Absolutely correct, and as I understand it military is second only to tourism in importance in Hawai`i's economy. However, the "givers and takers" chart supposedly takes that into account, although I certainly admit military money is really important. Hawai`i's economy isn't terribly diversified.
As a haole[1] living in Hawai`i, I took the time to learn the history and some of the language.
You can't possibly study the events of 1893 and conclude that anything but a monstrous wrong was committed. (I'm writing a novel called "No keia la, no keia po" and to write it I had to read extensively about those days.)
I don't know how to right that wrong. The Hawaiian sovereignty movement has its own ideas, though I don't know how practical those ideas may be. But I do know that something really, really bad was done back then, and it shouldn't be set aside or forgotten.
[1] Today this generally means 'Caucasian' and is sometimes used in a derogatory manner, but in the Hawaiian language, it actually means 'foreigner' without judgmental overtones.
On the other hand, on balance, I'm not sure the US is getting much out of it; so perhaps Hawaii should be kicked out of the union altogether. We'd sure save a lot of money in subsidies.
I live in Hawai`i (though not a native Hawaiian), and I'd like to know what those subsidies are that other states don't also get. The chart here:
http://www.theatlantic.com/bus...
shows Hawai`i ranked 29th in the "givers and takers" calculation, in other words, right in the middle of the pack.
I was in management a good part of my career, and I learned this.
What management actually entails is the realization that it's not about you, it's about your employees.
As manager, you are there to do whatever you have to do to help them get their jobs done. Sure, at a certain level you might set direction, etc., but you work for them, not the other way around.
Managers who forget this and think it's about "being the boss" are bound to fail, sooner or later.
Yes, it doesn't apply, and that's the point. This person, like myself, avoids TV, because I simply don't want to pay for all this stuff. I might pay for/watch TV if companies offered me acceptable choices.
I *do* get updates to the "malicious software removal tool" on my stock, unbuggered XP SP3 installation. Other security updates, no, but I do get this minimal update from time to time.
I hope you realize the subject was "undocumented extensions of species in the present era". Poe's law already? Slashdot is quick.
It was supposed to be a joke, son.
I lived in North Dakota for a while. Just about everyone worked on their yard, their house, etc. and thought that everyone else should do and be the same. For instance, the first weekend in April everyone raked up their yards. There might still be some snow on the ground, but it was the first weekend of April and raking your yard was what you DID. Period. And so on.
I didn't do those things. I would rather read or do stuff on the computer or go for long bike rides in summer. I didn't fit the norm. But the thing was, while I was perfectly willing to understand that others could have different motivations and priorities, they wouldn't think the same way about me.
Before you assume that my yard was an eyesore and the house a wreck--- I hired out that work. Someone painted for me. Someone mowed for me. But that wasn't good enough, because I refused to be the same as everyone else.
So this is sort of the opposite of what the poster above is saying. I didn't think everyone thinks like me --- everyone else thought I should have thought like them.
the vast majority are undocumented.
They're not "undocumented," they're illegal!
Open source is a bullshit fad, and I cannot wait for MORE companies like Nvidia to flip the bird right back at the freetards who have hurt all of us developers.
A fad that has lasted decades, and is growing.
Yes, of course. If it's bad, the US is to blame. And independent, totally unbiased, fair-minded and honest organizations with no agenda whatsoever, like the UN, ratify that conclusion at every opportunity.
Sounds like "he said - you said." Some actual facts would help the discussion.Buzzphrases like "bloated piece of bad software" on the one hand and "secure, enterprise-ready solutions" on the other, tell us nothing that can be used as the basis for a choice or decision.
I know very little about Active Directory, but I'm willing to learn if something of substance could be presented.
"the spread is lower than 8% going by score"
That should be 12%
I actually had to read the article to figure this out. The statement that White wins 56% and Black 44% is for games in which a non-draw decision is reached (per the actual article). But with 10% to 33% draws, the actual difference in score is definitely lower. Conventional scoring is 1 for a win and 0.5 each for a draw.
So White does have a persistent advantage, but the spread is lower than 8% going by score. And I think you have to go by score, that's what counts in tournament play.
Let's say over the time period in question there are 20% draws (just for the sake of calculation). Out of 1000 games there are 200 draws. White wins 56% of 800 or 448, so Black wins 352. White scores 548, Black 452, or 54.8% to 45.2%. Still a clear White advantage, but somewhat less, and lesser still as we approach the modern 33% drawn.
I run a personal version of Office 365 after switching over from LibreOffice and let me just say that the two aren't even remotely comparable. LibreOffice is at least a decade behind MS Office and I can't believe I ever thought them equal.
I'm no fan of MS or MS Office, and I use Linux/LibreOffice myself. But I'm willing to try to be open-minded and listen to the other side, and you seem willing to present it in a logical fashion. Can you say in what way or ways LibreOffice lags MS Office so badly? I'm not talking about obscure features used by only a few people. A decade of lag implies some really fundamental problems. Can you elaborate?
Heh. I live in Hawai`i. No Canadian Tire here :(
I don't have any of that junk either ... but I'm also an old codger who thinks email is modern and up-to-date, and since I play on chess.com I think I'm an advanced internet user :) I don't bother with Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, SnapChat, or any of the others. I sometimes wonder why I bother with /. for that matter.
But hey, I run Linux and I use Emacs org-mode, so I'm hip, right?
The internet can bring us information but we have to develop critical judgment on our own. That takes experience. However I think for someone willing to put in the effort, having a vast array of knowledge available can be very useful and an aid in the process of developing thinking skills.
I like it a lot more today when I can quickly look up nearly anything at all. The old days, when it took a trip to the library to consult likely out-of-date reference books, were certainly not as good.
And I used to love Canadian Tire. But that was, what, 40 years ago? Will have to look online to see if they still exist...
There is no law regarding sending classified materials to a nongovernment email server.
Huh? You can just forward classified material to non-secure servers outside of a classified network? I think not!
Besides, the classified materials she had access to are not that important anyway.
As Secretary of State she would have access to incredibly sensitive material.
Truman had to make the toughest decision any human being was ever called upon to make. It's easy to criticize in retrospect. He called it "a decision that would challenge the wisdom of Solomon himself." (approximate quote)
Was he right? Was he wrong? I think he did the best he could. Say what you want about his advisors, what information he had or didn't have, and so on, but in the end history would hold him and him alone responsible, and he knew it.
I would have hated to have been in his shoes.
Norway, Sweden, Canada, etc., are not super-powers and don't have the same world role, like it or not.
Can the US be a better place? Absolutely. That's what we have to work for. America espouses high principles and when we don't live up to them that's a problem.
But is the US the worst place around, or even a bad place, as things go? Answer for yourself.
Let's try to build up the US, by making it better and striving toward those high principles that we ought to not just espouse but act out. But let's not just blindly tear the US down.
This is just another way to say "The US is bad and everyone else is oh-so-wonderful" which is a popular theme around /.
I'm sorry America can't be as moral and upright as North Korea, Cuba, Russia, Iran, and all the other paragons of virtue that you love so much.