I really wish people would THINK before they post. No sun == no plants == no nutrients to consume.
Remember what happened to the dinosaurs when their sun was blotted out? That's what would happen to humans. Even if the machines fed 2 dead corpses per year to keep alive 1 human alive, the race would be almost extinct within a decade.
A 6 billion population would have decreased to less than a million in ten years.
>>>Obviously it's a depleting system with fewer and fewer humans to be gotten each time around.
That's an understatement. It takes about 300 pounds of meat, per year, to keep a person alive. Or two corpses. The human population would quickly decrease, as you'd kill 2 for every 1 left alive.
6 billion - kill 2/3rds of them == 2 billion - kill 2/3rds of them == 0.66 billion - kill 2/rds of them == 200 million - kill 2/rds of them == 74 million
Q: If humans are the batteries to supply energy to the machines, where do the humans get their energy to stay alive? A: Um..... er..... uh..... (runs away)
Yeah. The Matrix is pure Fantasy fiction not science fiction. No way could that world exist in our reality. Maybe the Matrix machines feed the humans with Unobtainium (aka magic).
Bribe the EU Parliament?;-) But seriously I wonder why the US is suffering a "cellphone spectrum shortage" but the EU is not. We must be doing something wrong, or else it's just a lot of US FUD for a problem that doesn't really exist.
>>>(in Sweden) functional business model where a company owns the line to the customer and creates a market where different ISP's can provide services to the customer. >>>
So what happens when you have a major company (like Comcast, Cox, or other cable company) that wants to lease the whole line from 10 megahertz upto 10,000 megahertz to supply their TV, internet, and on-demand services? Where does that leave room for any competing companies?
What Murdoch and other Rich corporations (ATT, Verizon) are trying to do now is get the FCC to take-away free access to the news. The FCC has developed a plan to lock-up previously free content by handing frequencies to cellphone companies. What was once free (via antenna) will now only be available via an expensive Cellphone subscription (~$100 a month) or Cable Net subscription (~$60/month). The surprising part is that Obama announced he supports the plan.
1985 - Commodore released the preemptive multitasking Amiga OS 1.0 1993 - Atari ST gained preemptive multitasking with TOS4
i.e. Commodore and Atari, per usual, were years ahead of the competition. It's a shame neither of these American companies exist anymore, since they were the true innovators.
No you're wrong. Commodore Amigas had the right button context menus in 1989. In fact when I first experienced Windows 3 in 1992, I found it frustrating specifically because the right button was there, but didn't do anything. I then realized how advanced Amiga OS really was.
The Supernatural episode that on last week was hilarious. The two brothers in the show got trapped in a CSI Miami episode, and they did about 20 of these "And that's what I call..." (shades) "...a deadly outcome."
Win95 and Mac both had the same type of multitasking - cooperative. So you could format a floppy, copy files online, and type email on either of them. BUT if one of those tasks crash, it froze the whole OS.
Windows 98 gained preemptive tasking. OS 10 (2001) gained preemptive tasking.
>>>Microsoft has had it's fair share of ideas copied too (Apple copied the popular 'right mouse click'...
Uh. No. I don't know who invented right button clicking first, but I know the Amiga in 1985 had the capability with context menus arriving in OS 2.0 (1989). Ditto the Atari ST. It was not a Microsoft invention.
In fact I honestly can't think of anything MS originally invented. Maybe MS-BASIC back in the distant disco decade (70s) but that's about it.
Yet another Mac OS component that Microsoft blatantly copied with Win95 - except Mac did the shortcuts properly. Win95 also copied the trashcan, finder, desktop arrangement, and shutdown procedure. When I first laid hands on Win95 I thought to myself, "This feels just like my Quadra Mac."
32 internal + [128] expansion for 160 total. I used to have a 256 RAM expansion in this machine which made Win98 run like a rocket, but one day it just stopped working. Annoying.:-|
>>>Novell seems to be the one company working on interoperability and migration paths to help people.
Hello.
SUSE might be the greatest OS ever made, but I want to take a moment to plug the new Lightweight Ubuntu (lubuntu) Linux. I installed it on my old Windows 98 laptop with just 160 megabytes RAM (32 internal + 160 expansion), and it works great. It has the power of the latest 2010 Linux OS, but without the unnecessary bloat of xubuntu or Gnome ubuntu.
Canonical also provides the backing & migration path that Microsoft or Mac users (me) are looking for. IMHO if we want Linux to succeed we really should focus our efforts behind whichever version we consider the best, rather than running-off in a bunch of different directions (which looks confusing to the Newbie standing on the outside & looking in).
The 99 cent fee provides credit card verification that you are "Joe Smith". If you claimed to be "Plenty Galore" then it would not match and a red flag would fly-up.
>>>YOU DON'T HAVE AN INALIENABLE RIGHT TO MARKET TO ME
Yes actually I do. It's my mouth and if I want to stand on a street corner and market my "the world is ending" speech all day long, I can. If you don't like it, move to a different part of the public street or only frequent private areas (like malls) where I can not enter.
And also "Minority Report" was about catching people in acts of pre-crime, before they killed someone. I don't see any indication that these cameras can predict future murders.
>>>altering consciousness is something that humans have taken part in for literally thousands of years.
Like sex. The whole purpose of the endorphins and other natural drugs the Human body releases is to alter the state of consciousness. (On the other hand some have tried to ban sex so maybe that's not a persuasive argument.)
I think this "beward of dangerous sounds!" press release is clear indication that the government employees have too much time on their hands, and about 1/4th of them should be laid off.
I'm okay with Little Pieces of DRM if the game is like Firefox where you buy a stripped product, and then pay micropayments to get various addons. The product would still be "complete" and usable but minus the optional features/sidequests.
What I would Not be okay with is if I was playing Final Fantasy 12 or Zelda Twilight Princess and suddenly a popup says, "If you want to enter the final dungeon, please type in your credit card number. It will be charged $10." That would piss me off.
Anonymous Coward just demonstrated the flaw with/.'s mod system. Obviously he disagrees with me that FF has compelling stories, which is fine. Not everyone likes Final Fantasy. But the way to express that disagreement is through REPLIES which say, "I disagree" not through using the mod system to make the post invisible (0) or (-1). Not through censorship.
I also suspect AC is the person who did the -1 Overrated on my post. Thanks.:-|
>>>Either you won't understand everything, you'll have taken in too much information and miss something vital or,as per your example, the real root of the problem will be so obscured from view >>>
Sounds like a good argument for keeping code as short-and-simple as possible. I recently tried the Kolibri OS that fit on a single floppy. Obviously that means it has limited function, but it's also easy to review and understand the code because it's so short. Another more useful example is Utorrent, which is barely 8 megabytes - that code is also easy to review and understand because of its brevity.
>>>And since Opera is not open source, there is no way to be sure of that.
I think we can trust the Opera developers. They've been around long enough (15 years), and they are the #1 browser in eastern Europe and Russia* so someone would have caught them by now, if they were thieves. ----- My main complaint about Opera's built-in features is it creates a memory hog. I don't need AdBlock or Bittorrent or Mail in my web browser. Using Firefox allows me to have a leaner program that is stripped of those features.
>>>You do realize that under the proposed law something like that would be illegal, regardless if it is true or not?
In the event your written record is challenged, it's easy enough to remain anonymous if you release the recording through other people or proxies (like bittorrent). And if I did get caught and spent time in jail, so what? Anybody who believes in Liberty should be willing to spend a little time in jail for their beliefs.
>>>If 1 in 100,000 people cannot properly operate a device, it might be fair to conclude that the problem is with the people.
Or an even more simple answer: Our government has a new motto: We the Corporations. I cannot think of any other way to reach the conclusion in this study. Drivers sat before Congress and testified that they pushed the brake and nothing happened. They shifted from "D" to "N" and even "R" but nothing happened. The Toyota computer was ignoring their inputs.
Furthermore Toyota engineers admitted it. They admitted there was a bug that made the computer ignore inputs from the brakes or gear shift, if you were above 50 miles an hour.
For a study to conclude it's driver error in the face of all this testimony and evidence shows that the study writers were biased & trying to protect Toyota
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>>>Wouldn't they just pump nutrients in that way
I really wish people would THINK before they post. No sun == no plants == no nutrients to consume.
Remember what happened to the dinosaurs when their sun was blotted out? That's what would happen to humans. Even if the machines fed 2 dead corpses per year to keep alive 1 human alive, the race would be almost extinct within a decade.
A 6 billion population would have decreased to less than a million in ten years.
>>>Obviously it's a depleting system with fewer and fewer humans to be gotten each time around.
That's an understatement. It takes about 300 pounds of meat, per year, to keep a person alive. Or two corpses. The human population would quickly decrease, as you'd kill 2 for every 1 left alive.
6 billion - kill 2/3rds of them
== 2 billion - kill 2/3rds of them
== 0.66 billion - kill 2/rds of them
== 200 million - kill 2/rds of them
== 74 million
And so on.
Here's another joke about the Matrix core...
Q: If humans are the batteries to supply energy to the machines, where do the humans get their energy to stay alive?
A: Um..... er..... uh..... (runs away)
Yeah. The Matrix is pure Fantasy fiction not science fiction. No way could that world exist in our reality. Maybe the Matrix machines feed the humans with Unobtainium (aka magic).
Bribe the EU Parliament? ;-) But seriously I wonder why the US is suffering a "cellphone spectrum shortage" but the EU is not. We must be doing something wrong, or else it's just a lot of US FUD for a problem that doesn't really exist.
>>>(in Sweden) functional business model where a company owns the line to the customer and creates a market where different ISP's can provide services to the customer.
>>>
So what happens when you have a major company (like Comcast, Cox, or other cable company) that wants to lease the whole line from 10 megahertz upto 10,000 megahertz to supply their TV, internet, and on-demand services? Where does that leave room for any competing companies?
Don't celebrate yet.
They aren't done.
What Murdoch and other Rich corporations (ATT, Verizon) are trying to do now is get the FCC to take-away free access to the news. The FCC has developed a plan to lock-up previously free content by handing frequencies to cellphone companies. What was once free (via antenna) will now only be available via an expensive Cellphone subscription (~$100 a month) or Cable Net subscription (~$60/month). The surprising part is that Obama announced he supports the plan.
P.S. And just for the sake of completion:
1985 - Commodore released the preemptive multitasking Amiga OS 1.0
1993 - Atari ST gained preemptive multitasking with TOS4
i.e. Commodore and Atari, per usual, were years ahead of the competition. It's a shame neither of these American companies exist anymore, since they were the true innovators.
No you're wrong. Commodore Amigas had the right button context menus in 1989. In fact when I first experienced Windows 3 in 1992, I found it frustrating specifically because the right button was there, but didn't do anything. I then realized how advanced Amiga OS really was.
The Supernatural episode that on last week was hilarious. The two brothers in the show got trapped in a CSI Miami episode, and they did about 20 of these "And that's what I call..." (shades) "...a deadly outcome."
Win95 and Mac both had the same type of multitasking - cooperative. So you could format a floppy, copy files online, and type email on either of them. BUT if one of those tasks crash, it froze the whole OS.
Windows 98 gained preemptive tasking.
OS 10 (2001) gained preemptive tasking.
>>>Microsoft has had it's fair share of ideas copied too (Apple copied the popular 'right mouse click'...
Uh. No. I don't know who invented right button clicking first, but I know the Amiga in 1985 had the capability with context menus arriving in OS 2.0 (1989). Ditto the Atari ST. It was not a Microsoft invention.
In fact I honestly can't think of anything MS originally invented. Maybe MS-BASIC back in the distant disco decade (70s) but that's about it.
Yep.
Yet another Mac OS component that Microsoft blatantly copied with Win95 - except Mac did the shortcuts properly. Win95 also copied the trashcan, finder, desktop arrangement, and shutdown procedure. When I first laid hands on Win95 I thought to myself, "This feels just like my Quadra Mac."
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32 internal + [128] expansion for 160 total. I used to have a 256 RAM expansion in this machine which made Win98 run like a rocket, but one day it just stopped working. Annoying. :-|
>>>Novell seems to be the one company working on interoperability and migration paths to help people.
Hello.
SUSE might be the greatest OS ever made, but I want to take a moment to plug the new Lightweight Ubuntu (lubuntu) Linux. I installed it on my old Windows 98 laptop with just 160 megabytes RAM (32 internal + 160 expansion), and it works great. It has the power of the latest 2010 Linux OS, but without the unnecessary bloat of xubuntu or Gnome ubuntu.
Canonical also provides the backing & migration path that Microsoft or Mac users (me) are looking for. IMHO if we want Linux to succeed we really should focus our efforts behind whichever version we consider the best, rather than running-off in a bunch of different directions (which looks confusing to the Newbie standing on the outside & looking in).
The 99 cent fee provides credit card verification that you are "Joe Smith". If you claimed to be "Plenty Galore" then it would not match and a red flag would fly-up.
>>>YOU DON'T HAVE AN INALIENABLE RIGHT TO MARKET TO ME
Yes actually I do. It's my mouth and if I want to stand on a street corner and market my "the world is ending" speech all day long, I can. If you don't like it, move to a different part of the public street or only frequent private areas (like malls) where I can not enter.
And also "Minority Report" was about catching people in acts of pre-crime, before they killed someone. I don't see any indication that these cameras can predict future murders.
>>>altering consciousness is something that humans have taken part in for literally thousands of years.
Like sex. The whole purpose of the endorphins and other natural drugs the Human body releases is to alter the state of consciousness. (On the other hand some have tried to ban sex so maybe that's not a persuasive argument.)
I think this "beward of dangerous sounds!" press release is clear indication that the government employees have too much time on their hands, and about 1/4th of them should be laid off.
I'm okay with Little Pieces of DRM if the game is like Firefox where you buy a stripped product, and then pay micropayments to get various addons. The product would still be "complete" and usable but minus the optional features/sidequests.
What I would Not be okay with is if I was playing Final Fantasy 12 or Zelda Twilight Princess and suddenly a popup says, "If you want to enter the final dungeon, please type in your credit card number. It will be charged $10." That would piss me off.
a strong compelling story (like Final Fantasy)
Mod parent troll.
Anonymous Coward just demonstrated the flaw with /.'s mod system. Obviously he disagrees with me that FF has compelling stories, which is fine. Not everyone likes Final Fantasy. But the way to express that disagreement is through REPLIES which say, "I disagree" not through using the mod system to make the post invisible (0) or (-1). Not through censorship.
I also suspect AC is the person who did the -1 Overrated on my post. Thanks. :-|
Can someone point me to a nice lean browser that can run in 32 megabytes (like utorrnt) but is not text-only (like Lynx). It doesn't seem to exist.
>>>Either you won't understand everything, you'll have taken in too much information and miss something vital or,as per your example, the real root of the problem will be so obscured from view
>>>
Sounds like a good argument for keeping code as short-and-simple as possible. I recently tried the Kolibri OS that fit on a single floppy. Obviously that means it has limited function, but it's also easy to review and understand the code because it's so short. Another more useful example is Utorrent, which is barely 8 megabytes - that code is also easy to review and understand because of its brevity.
>>>And since Opera is not open source, there is no way to be sure of that.
I think we can trust the Opera developers. They've been around long enough (15 years), and they are the #1 browser in eastern Europe and Russia* so someone would have caught them by now, if they were thieves. ----- My main complaint about Opera's built-in features is it creates a memory hog. I don't need AdBlock or Bittorrent or Mail in my web browser. Using Firefox allows me to have a leaner program that is stripped of those features.
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* Or so I've heard. I've never seen any proof.
>>>You do realize that under the proposed law something like that would be illegal, regardless if it is true or not?
In the event your written record is challenged, it's easy enough to remain anonymous if you release the recording through other people or proxies (like bittorrent). And if I did get caught and spent time in jail, so what? Anybody who believes in Liberty should be willing to spend a little time in jail for their beliefs.
>>>If 1 in 100,000 people cannot properly operate a device, it might be fair to conclude that the problem is with the people.
Or an even more simple answer: Our government has a new motto: We the Corporations. I cannot think of any other way to reach the conclusion in this study. Drivers sat before Congress and testified that they pushed the brake and nothing happened. They shifted from "D" to "N" and even "R" but nothing happened. The Toyota computer was ignoring their inputs.
Furthermore Toyota engineers admitted it. They admitted there was a bug that made the computer ignore inputs from the brakes or gear shift, if you were above 50 miles an hour.
For a study to conclude it's driver error in the face of all this testimony and evidence shows that the study writers were biased & trying to protect Toyota