>>>the products that have been "banned" typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around. >>>
Yeah like those "Saw" movies. They ought to be banned from every country on this planet.M
/end sarcasm. One man's "deplorable content" is no big deal to other people - just actors on a stage with ketchup. There shouldn't be any censorship of any kind so that people can watch whatever they want to watch (in the privacy of their homes).
"The obvious solution is to censor everything, and only allow apps to be released to the public AFTER the government has reviewed them. This is a reasonable and prudent solution." - government manager at the ACB
You ever seen Gene Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict? There's a character on there called Augur who can hack into virtually any system. That's what we all need to become - Augurs - to hack around government obstacles and protect our right of free speech and freedom of expression even when the politicians "forget" to obey the laws they have created:
EU Charter of Rights - Article 11
"Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers."
A distinction that matters not. A network of computers at some distant Microsoft facility still has the same appearance as a "central computer" from the user's viewpoint, and still offloading workload from a terminal.
>>>Maybe they don't have a quad CPU, and maybe they don't want to buy one.
Yeah but you failed to read the rest of my sentence. Even my single-core ancient Pentium 4 is faster than my 750 kbit/s network connection. It makes more sense to do all the work here, rather than add the latency of a 4000-mile-long roundtrip leg.
(shrug)
I think people who are pursuing cloud computing are about as foolish as somebody who said, "Let's resurrect VAX mainframes and dumb terminals." Just my opinion.
>>>it's nice to change the buzzwords every so often...
Bad is good. And good is bad. War is peace, and chocolate rations have been increased from 10 to 5.
How about instead of inventing words we just use the ones we have? Rather than "cloud" computing we could just call it internet-based computing, because that's what it is.
>>>It's nothing new, but it haven't been harnesses to do general purpose computing 'till recently.
That's odd. I seem to recall use my VAX terminal to "cloud compute" and do general computing (math problems) back in the 80s. Maybe you think that doesn't count for some reason?
>>>these young punks have a huge ego, but no knowledge of computing history. They don't realize that "cloud computing" is merely what we called "mainframes" back in the day. >>>
What I don't understand, even if these young'uns have no knowledge of history, why do they think cloud computing is a good idea? Why would they want to offload all the processing onto some distant central computer, when they have a quadruple CPU sitting right here in front of them? It makes no logical sense.
My own computer may "only" be a Pentium 4, but it's still about 12,000 times faster than the old 8-bit machine where I used to write book reports. If that ancient machine could handle the workload than my current computer certainly can - there's no need to connect to some distant mainframe.
People misuse the word "CPU" the way they abuse the word "cloud computing"? Really? I've not heard anyone saying they need to buy a new 1920x1080 CPU, or a new 10 gigabyte CPU for their machines.
If you have Comcast, Time-Warner, or Cox internet you don't have the old style 80s-era time-sharing, but you still have an allotment. About 250 gigs per month. Have fun watching youtube videos, or CBS.com tv shows, or netflix.com rentals, AND doing cloud computing at the same time. You'll have overage fees galore.
>>>"cloud" computing phenomenon -- it is only a new (and exceptionally stupid) buzzword for something that we have been doing for a long, long time >>>
Well it's similar to when my local TV station started talking about "phantom power". i.e. When you leave your VCR or TV plugged-in, it uses about 5 watts of power. They act as if this is something new, but we engineers have known it as "parasitic" or standby power for a long long time.
And bell-bottom jeans. Today they call them "flares" or "flared" but it's still the same thing.
I guess marketers feel they have to dupe the customers, and the way to do that is by changing the name to something else. "Oh no! Watch out for that ghostly phantom power while your cloud computing in your shinynew flared jeans!"
Bad analogy. Kia =/= Honda whereas a Compaq PC-compatible == Mac in terms of reliability. Here's a better analogy:
So Honda announced a bunch of new Acura models.
Cool. I was looking at buying a new Civic for $15k. Can I buy one of those new Acuras for that price? I don't see any listed here or on acura.com. (shrug). I guess I'll buy the Civic instead of the overpriced luxury model. (i.e. I'll buy the mass-produced Compaq instead of the luxury Mac. I'm not rich.)
There's nothing crazy about having the freedom to live your life however you want. That's what liberty means. Besides I can not lay my hand on any part of the U.S. Constitution that granted the Congress power to ban a natural plant from existing. Can you? ----- QED the tenth amendment comes into effect - that power is reserved to the 50 states.
>>>Have you not witnessed the partisanship, corruption, and/or general idiocy involved in picking replacement for Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, and Ted Kennedy over the past year? >>>
Still preferable to a central government that has unchecked power to control all facets. That's what the 17th amendment has created - an unrestrained Washington D.C. It's comparable to if the EU started regulating the highway speeds in Britain and France.
Amigas were also used to create the CGI for television shows and movies, like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, seaQuest, and Babylon 5. There's a reason it was called the first multimedia computer.
>>>there's a reason why the amiga owners in our group all wanted (and ended up owning) a PC
Yeah because Commodore was disassembled by the government in 1994, and it wasn't possible to buy Amiga anymore. Basically - we had no choice (hence the term monopoly). I didn't buy my first PC until 1998, and hated that I was forced to use the inferior, crash-prone, piece of shit called Windows 98. It took all the fun out of gaming.
Example: I recall my roommate trying to get the Star Trek TNG Technical Manual to run on his 1995 PC. He spent all weekend dicking-around with settings, and finally broke down and cried because it refused to work, and he had wasted $50.
I went out and bought a PS2 and Gamecube instead, and I turned my back on the tear-your-hair-out, bug-ridden computer gaming forever. Gone were the days of Atari 800, Commodore=64, and Amiga gaming when playing was as simple as popping in a floppy and plugging-in a joystick. PC gaming was a major headache-inducing endeavor.
"16 colors and a beeeeep sound ought to be enough for anybody."
- 1984 when IBM released their new "enhanced" graphics upgrade (EGA) for the PC. Wow. (One year later Commodore released a machine with over 4000 colors, CD-quality sound, and preemptive multitasking.)
Funny how a comment that's flat wrong gets modded "insightful". Not every IBM PC game was a sim. Ever heard of Lemmings? Or Populous? Or Shadow of the Beast? Or Wolfenstein? Or Hostages? There were tons of games before Doom that were simple enough to just pick-up and play them.
BTW I agree a good game doesn't need a story. Use your imagination.
Shhh. You're not allowed to rewrite the accepted history with truth. Shame on you.;-) Besides Tunnel Runner was one of the first first-person games - 1983 on an Atari - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Runner
I don't know what you're talking about? I had Civilization and Wing Commander on my Amiga 500 (68000/7 megahertz) computer, and they looked just as good as the IBM PC version. More importantly I can still play the Amiga versions, whereas the PC versions crash both my Win98 and WinXP machines. (That's why I hate using PCs for gaming.)
And who says Amiga can't do Doom? Look at this image - http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/doom_ii_03.png It took the IBM PC and Mac world about 10 years (1985-95) to catch-up to the Amiga in terms of sound, graphics, and preemptive multitasking ability. (Poor Mac didn't get preemptive-tasking until 2001!).
>>>I do find the general idea of trying to trace where particular things originated int
Almost everything traces back to the original Atari console, early 8-bit computers, or 70s-era arcades. Just picking some random games off the top of my head:
Space Invaders - shooter Space War or Star Raiders - first person shooter (ship) Hostages - first person shooter (person) Donkey Kong - platformer Crystal Castles - 3D platformer Pitfall 1 2 - Adventure Haunted House - survival-horror F15 Strike Eagle - simulation M.U.L.E. - real time strategy A D & D - stat-based RPG
>>>Linux is not always cheaper (free is not cheap).
That's true. I'm not sure why your post was modded troll and censored into invisibility (-1)? Linux can be rather expensive if you're trying to run a CAD program and it refuses to operate properly in either Ubuntu Linux or the Wine windoze emulator
It entirely depends on your application. Converting my G4 Mac to Linux was cheaper (free) than paying ~$100 for an OS X 10.5 upgrade, but that's not always the case.
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>>>the products that have been "banned" typically feature the very worst and deplorable content around.
>>>
Yeah like those "Saw" movies. They ought to be banned from every country on this planet.M
"The obvious solution is to censor everything, and only allow apps to be released to the public AFTER the government has reviewed them. This is a reasonable and prudent solution." - government manager at the ACB
You ever seen Gene Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict? There's a character on there called Augur who can hack into virtually any system. That's what we all need to become - Augurs - to hack around government obstacles and protect our right of free speech and freedom of expression even when the politicians "forget" to obey the laws they have created:
EU Charter of Rights - Article 11
"Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers."
a few isolated but popular (newsworthy) apps which have the potential to be politically embarrassing.
AbiMap - tracks troop and train movements so users can see where the Aborigines are being exported for "resettlement"
Conroy - "Censor it! Censor it now!"
UniformedThug- "Yes sir!"
Conroy - "And terminate the programmer of this app with extreme prejudice."
>>>You said yourself, it was a terminal. The computation was done on a mainframe
If I only use my PC to connect to Microsoft.com applications like Cloudword or Cloudexcel, then in effect I've turned my PC into a terminal.
>>>A cloud service is by definition distributed.
A distinction that matters not. A network of computers at some distant Microsoft facility still has the same appearance as a "central computer" from the user's viewpoint, and still offloading workload from a terminal.
>>>Maybe they don't have a quad CPU, and maybe they don't want to buy one.
Yeah but you failed to read the rest of my sentence. Even my single-core ancient Pentium 4 is faster than my 750 kbit/s network connection. It makes more sense to do all the work here, rather than add the latency of a 4000-mile-long roundtrip leg.
(shrug)
I think people who are pursuing cloud computing are about as foolish as somebody who said, "Let's resurrect VAX mainframes and dumb terminals." Just my opinion.
Yes for example if my records are opened, it will be discovered my IQ is only 90, and I may lose my engineering job. Shhh.
>>>it's nice to change the buzzwords every so often...
Bad is good. And good is bad. War is peace, and chocolate rations have been increased from 10 to 5.
How about instead of inventing words we just use the ones we have? Rather than "cloud" computing we could just call it internet-based computing, because that's what it is.
>>>It's nothing new, but it haven't been harnesses to do general purpose computing 'till recently.
That's odd. I seem to recall use my VAX terminal to "cloud compute" and do general computing (math problems) back in the 80s. Maybe you think that doesn't count for some reason?
>>>these young punks have a huge ego, but no knowledge of computing history. They don't realize that "cloud computing" is merely what we called "mainframes" back in the day.
>>>
What I don't understand, even if these young'uns have no knowledge of history, why do they think cloud computing is a good idea? Why would they want to offload all the processing onto some distant central computer, when they have a quadruple CPU sitting right here in front of them? It makes no logical sense.
My own computer may "only" be a Pentium 4, but it's still about 12,000 times faster than the old 8-bit machine where I used to write book reports. If that ancient machine could handle the workload than my current computer certainly can - there's no need to connect to some distant mainframe.
People misuse the word "CPU" the way they abuse the word "cloud computing"? Really? I've not heard anyone saying they need to buy a new 1920x1080 CPU, or a new 10 gigabyte CPU for their machines.
If you have Comcast, Time-Warner, or Cox internet you don't have the old style 80s-era time-sharing, but you still have an allotment. About 250 gigs per month. Have fun watching youtube videos, or CBS.com tv shows, or netflix.com rentals, AND doing cloud computing at the same time. You'll have overage fees galore.
>>>"cloud" computing phenomenon -- it is only a new (and exceptionally stupid) buzzword for something that we have been doing for a long, long time
>>>
Well it's similar to when my local TV station started talking about "phantom power". i.e. When you leave your VCR or TV plugged-in, it uses about 5 watts of power. They act as if this is something new, but we engineers have known it as "parasitic" or standby power for a long long time.
And bell-bottom jeans. Today they call them "flares" or "flared" but it's still the same thing.
I guess marketers feel they have to dupe the customers, and the way to do that is by changing the name to something else. "Oh no! Watch out for that ghostly phantom power while your cloud computing in your shinynew flared jeans!"
Bad analogy. Kia =/= Honda whereas a Compaq PC-compatible == Mac in terms of reliability. Here's a better analogy:
So Honda announced a bunch of new Acura models.
Cool. I was looking at buying a new Civic for $15k. Can I buy one of those new Acuras for that price? I don't see any listed here or on acura.com. (shrug). I guess I'll buy the Civic instead of the overpriced luxury model. (i.e. I'll buy the mass-produced Compaq instead of the luxury Mac. I'm not rich.)
>>>in your crazy pro-hemp world
There's nothing crazy about having the freedom to live your life however you want. That's what liberty means. Besides I can not lay my hand on any part of the U.S. Constitution that granted the Congress power to ban a natural plant from existing. Can you? ----- QED the tenth amendment comes into effect - that power is reserved to the 50 states.
>>>Have you not witnessed the partisanship, corruption, and/or general idiocy involved in picking replacement for Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, and Ted Kennedy over the past year?
>>>
Still preferable to a central government that has unchecked power to control all facets.
That's what the 17th amendment has created - an unrestrained Washington D.C.
It's comparable to if the EU started regulating the highway speeds in Britain and France.
>>>tell me you were playing Ultima 7 or Ultima Underworld on your Amiga in 1992 too.
Nope. Were you playing Dragon's Lair or Space Ace on your IBM PC in 1990? Not likely. Amiga also had the eye-popping visuals of Myst. Images (262,000 colors) - http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/myst_09.png http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/myst_10.png
Amigas were also used to create the CGI for television shows and movies, like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, seaQuest, and Babylon 5. There's a reason it was called the first multimedia computer.
>>>there's a reason why the amiga owners in our group all wanted (and ended up owning) a PC
Yeah because Commodore was disassembled by the government in 1994, and it wasn't possible to buy Amiga anymore. Basically - we had no choice (hence the term monopoly). I didn't buy my first PC until 1998, and hated that I was forced to use the inferior, crash-prone, piece of shit called Windows 98. It took all the fun out of gaming.
Example: I recall my roommate trying to get the Star Trek TNG Technical Manual to run on his 1995 PC. He spent all weekend dicking-around with settings, and finally broke down and cried because it refused to work, and he had wasted $50.
I went out and bought a PS2 and Gamecube instead, and I turned my back on the tear-your-hair-out, bug-ridden computer gaming forever. Gone were the days of Atari 800, Commodore=64, and Amiga gaming when playing was as simple as popping in a floppy and plugging-in a joystick. PC gaming was a major headache-inducing endeavor.
"16 colors and a beeeeep sound ought to be enough for anybody."
- 1984 when IBM released their new "enhanced" graphics upgrade (EGA) for the PC. Wow. (One year later Commodore released a machine with over 4000 colors, CD-quality sound, and preemptive multitasking.)
>>>That line is ripped from John Carpenter's They Live, and some others are taken from Sam Raimi's Evil Dead. Homage or plagiarism?
Stormwatch is a product of our "copying is theft" government schools
Funny how a comment that's flat wrong gets modded "insightful". Not every IBM PC game was a sim. Ever heard of Lemmings? Or Populous? Or Shadow of the Beast? Or Wolfenstein? Or Hostages? There were tons of games before Doom that were simple enough to just pick-up and play them.
BTW I agree a good game doesn't need a story. Use your imagination.
Shhh. You're not allowed to rewrite the accepted history with truth. Shame on you. ;-) Besides Tunnel Runner was one of the first first-person games - 1983 on an Atari - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Runner
And if you want to go waaaaay back there was the first-person Starship in 1977 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Ship
I don't know what you're talking about? I had Civilization and Wing Commander on my Amiga 500 (68000/7 megahertz) computer, and they looked just as good as the IBM PC version. More importantly I can still play the Amiga versions, whereas the PC versions crash both my Win98 and WinXP machines. (That's why I hate using PCs for gaming.)
And who says Amiga can't do Doom? Look at this image - http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/doom_ii_03.png It took the IBM PC and Mac world about 10 years (1985-95) to catch-up to the Amiga in terms of sound, graphics, and preemptive multitasking ability. (Poor Mac didn't get preemptive-tasking until 2001!).
>>>I do find the general idea of trying to trace where particular things originated int
Almost everything traces back to the original Atari console, early 8-bit computers, or 70s-era arcades. Just picking some random games off the top of my head:
Space Invaders - shooter
Space War or Star Raiders - first person shooter (ship)
Hostages - first person shooter (person)
Donkey Kong - platformer
Crystal Castles - 3D platformer
Pitfall 1 2 - Adventure
Haunted House - survival-horror
F15 Strike Eagle - simulation
M.U.L.E. - real time strategy
A D & D - stat-based RPG
>>>Linux is not always cheaper (free is not cheap).
That's true. I'm not sure why your post was modded troll and censored into invisibility (-1)? Linux can be rather expensive if you're trying to run a CAD program and it refuses to operate properly in either Ubuntu Linux or the Wine windoze emulator
It entirely depends on your application. Converting my G4 Mac to Linux was cheaper (free) than paying ~$100 for an OS X 10.5 upgrade, but that's not always the case.