. ..how did slashdot editors managed to understand "ther people want the reliability and the dependability that comes from a commercial software model.'"" to "OpenSource is unreliable".
Because they understand that that's the way the statement was meant to be understood?
By what definition does the best criminal have to remain unidentified?
By the definition that claims the best criminal is the one who remains unsuspected of crime.
Even if you're not very good, you could still be the "best".
Ah, well, now we're getting into the realm of the Platonic Ideal vs. the Pragmatic Shadow. However, the existence of the Pragmatic Shadow does not necessarily invalidate the definition of the Platonic Ideal.
look at the scattered remains of former companies at the hands of Microsoft it seems a wonder any company would enter into partnerships with them
Nothing new here. Those who do not remember history. . .
Here's how GM (the 800 pd. economic gorilla before Microsoft, ya know "What's good for GM is good for the nation.") built up their manufacturing base back in the day:
You find some little, privately owned fabricating shop in East Podunk or something and offer them a contract to make a few widgets. Visions of Rolls-Royces and gold leafed ice cream begin to dance through the owner's head.
Over the next five years or so you gradually increase the number of widgets you have them make for you while constantly patting the owner on the back and telling him what a great job he's doing and how you'll be friends and partners forever.
At this point 90 to 100% of the company's business is producing widgets for you.
Now you suggest that perhaps friends and partners isn't the best business relationship and offer them a lowball price for the company, promising to keep on the founder (who risked all and spent years sleeping in the warehouse; allienating himself from his wife and kids in the process, to build his business) at standard wage for a minor plant manager.
If he takes the offer you keep him on for a year or two for transitional stability, then replace him with a home office exec.
If he doesn't take the offer, you cancel all orders, instantly bankrupting the company and you buy it from the receiver at pennies on the dollar.
You keep the owner on as a minor plant assistant manager for transitional stability and when he dies of alcoholism/heartbreak in a year or two the home office exec whose thumb he has been under runs the show.
It's all just straightforward business really and pretty old school. There's no actual animosity on the part of GM in the above. Microsoft's "innovation" in applying this strategy is the way they manage to make simple predatory business relationships personal. They don't simply want to acquire you with minimum fuss and expense, they want to pound you in the ass if you don't accept lapdog status.
GM simply wanted to acquire. Microsoft wants to dominate.
Come to think of it Bill Gates "innovates" in business by following the Minor Keith plan. They're ultimately after turning the world into a collection of Software Republics.
That might work as well - I don't know much about EPA clinical trials of consumer products, are they in that business?
If it creates environmental issues, such as "second hand smoke," yes, that's what they do.
"SHS" is regulated by the EPA and OSHA, not the ATF and FDA, because that is outside of their mandate. If we let anyone regulate anything than anyone can regulate everything; anywhich way they like.
Well, to be fair, what department WOULD regulate nanotechnology?
What department regulates gelatin intended for human consumption?
That's right, the FDA.
What department regulates glue, leather and violin strings?
Not the FDA.
How about we let the relevant agencies regulate within the sphere of their mandate and expertise? And God forbid that should leave certain applications beyond the realm of the government. I really don't feel like having to bring my fiddles to some sort of inspector other than my customers, nor do I see any value in it.
Wow so the bad guys won? This isn't the way it's suppose to happen.
Says who? Reality is what happens whether you believe in it or not. Causes have no morality.
Rock vs. Rock the best you can end up with is a draw, and a pile of rubble. That's if the rocks are identical. If one of the parties has a much bigger and stronger rock, however, they win. Doesn't matter whether the rock is "good" or "bad."
An effective way to organize a weenie roast. A rather poor way to organize a village to hold a weenie roast in.
Fight back? Damn straight, but forgive me if I would prefer a method that doesn't leave me standing in the smoldering ruins of my home smuggly saying, "I won."
Or, in this case, "I Lost."
Well, that's ok. Failure is the most valuable tool you own, if you pay attention and learn from it. It doesn't look, at the moment, as if you have absorbed the lesson as of yet.
Perhaps you are not familiar with the working definition of insanity? Applying it is not good engineering, computer or social.
Of course. This is the latest, cutting edge media player; and it will automagically detect all of your.ogg files and convert them into a DRM format that will be playable with Windows Media Player . ..12; available with Windows Vista: Forever, SP2.
vim, an application commonly run from the commandline, has gotten spellchecking as well. This actually bugs me a bit. I already have shell level spellchecking. Now I've got an extra wheel to haul around.
I suppose the next version will have an embedded MTA.
Hey guys, remember that "Unix Way(tm)" thingy? There was a reason for it. How about a little cooperation between the wheel makers?
Indeed it is. I wouldn't mind being able to get rid of the chest band portion of my heart-rate monitor, although you really do cease to notice it after awhile.
The "smaller than a PDA" thing has me going a bit though. My monitor already sends the data to a device about the size of a wrist watch.
Actually, that one might be useful. I can think of a few occasions when I've wondered WTF a moderator was thinking when I might well have thought, "Yeah, well, I guess I had that one coming," to a, "-1, Fish."
Maybe what we need is a "-1, Fire!" option, because noone would understand "-1, Chocolate!"
I am so sick of these people who feel that if said company doesnt respond NOW they are then in the right to exploit said holes . . .
You're a very confused person, ain'tcha? I've tried three times to formulate a reasonable response to the above; and failed due to the lack of reasoning in the source material.
I've been pretty much left with, "Wa'choo talkin' 'bout, Willis?"
. ..and make everyones life misserable.
Ignorance is bliss I guess. Don't worry, be happy. Just close your eyes and make the bad guys disappear. Every two year old knows that trick.
The "vow to compete" is a useless and sensationalist addition by the author, so let's keep it civil and avoid flame wars.
Dude, did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque or something and think you ended up someplace else?
The is The Internet.
Hassan, Chop!
Hassan Chop! Yo, I can't stop Givin you that off the wall troll slop Hassan Chop! Yo, I can't stop This the type of shit that you pump on your address block
Off top, I came to blow the whole spot Solid as a rock, my whole style is unorthodox Astronomically flamebait, to a state Where I create posters rate, snatch ya karma like the dirty mate
Slashdot Mirror
Perhaps he can clarify if he's trolling for his own company's software . . .
Ya think?
KFG
. . .how did slashdot editors managed to understand "ther people want the reliability and the dependability that comes from a commercial software model.'"" to "OpenSource is unreliable".
Because they understand that that's the way the statement was meant to be understood?
Either that or they just cut and pasted.
KFG
By what definition does the best criminal have to remain unidentified?
By the definition that claims the best criminal is the one who remains unsuspected of crime.
Even if you're not very good, you could still be the "best".
Ah, well, now we're getting into the realm of the Platonic Ideal vs. the Pragmatic Shadow. However, the existence of the Pragmatic Shadow does not necessarily invalidate the definition of the Platonic Ideal.
KFG
look at the scattered remains of former companies at the hands of Microsoft it seems a wonder any company would enter into partnerships with them
Nothing new here. Those who do not remember history. . .
Here's how GM (the 800 pd. economic gorilla before Microsoft, ya know "What's good for GM is good for the nation.") built up their manufacturing base back in the day:
You find some little, privately owned fabricating shop in East Podunk or something and offer them a contract to make a few widgets. Visions of Rolls-Royces and gold leafed ice cream begin to dance through the owner's head.
Over the next five years or so you gradually increase the number of widgets you have them make for you while constantly patting the owner on the back and telling him what a great job he's doing and how you'll be friends and partners forever.
At this point 90 to 100% of the company's business is producing widgets for you.
Now you suggest that perhaps friends and partners isn't the best business relationship and offer them a lowball price for the company, promising to keep on the founder (who risked all and spent years sleeping in the warehouse; allienating himself from his wife and kids in the process, to build his business) at standard wage for a minor plant manager.
If he takes the offer you keep him on for a year or two for transitional stability, then replace him with a home office exec.
If he doesn't take the offer, you cancel all orders, instantly bankrupting the company and you buy it from the receiver at pennies on the dollar.
You keep the owner on as a minor plant assistant manager for transitional stability and when he dies of alcoholism/heartbreak in a year or two the home office exec whose thumb he has been under runs the show.
It's all just straightforward business really and pretty old school. There's no actual animosity on the part of GM in the above. Microsoft's "innovation" in applying this strategy is the way they manage to make simple predatory business relationships personal. They don't simply want to acquire you with minimum fuss and expense, they want to pound you in the ass if you don't accept lapdog status.
GM simply wanted to acquire. Microsoft wants to dominate.
Come to think of it Bill Gates "innovates" in business by following the Minor Keith plan. They're ultimately after turning the world into a collection of Software Republics.
KFG
That sound kinda farfetched to anyone?
Well, when you put it that way, I guess it does seem a bit out there.
I might have to reconsider my project to figure out why Scoobydoo talks like that.
KFG
That might work as well - I don't know much about EPA clinical trials of consumer products, are they in that business?
If it creates environmental issues, such as "second hand smoke," yes, that's what they do.
"SHS" is regulated by the EPA and OSHA, not the ATF and FDA, because that is outside of their mandate. If we let anyone regulate anything than anyone can regulate everything; anywhich way they like.
This would be a Bad Thing.
KFG
If some window cleaner contains nanamaterials that might cause silicosis if inhaled, for example . . .
we'll invent the EPA.
KFG
The FDA will regulate all nanotechnology which is part of either a Food or a Drug.
They're called "elements."
KFG
Well, to be fair, what department WOULD regulate nanotechnology?
What department regulates gelatin intended for human consumption?
That's right, the FDA.
What department regulates glue, leather and violin strings?
Not the FDA.
How about we let the relevant agencies regulate within the sphere of their mandate and expertise? And God forbid that should leave certain applications beyond the realm of the government. I really don't feel like having to bring my fiddles to some sort of inspector other than my customers, nor do I see any value in it.
KFG
You mean to say they want to profit even more?
You misspelled "someday."
KFG
You're jocking, right?
I pump a little iron now and again. You got a problem with that?
KFG
Wow so the bad guys won? This isn't the way it's suppose to happen.
Says who? Reality is what happens whether you believe in it or not. Causes have no morality.
Rock vs. Rock the best you can end up with is a draw, and a pile of rubble. That's if the rocks are identical. If one of the parties has a much bigger and stronger rock, however, they win. Doesn't matter whether the rock is "good" or "bad."
And there's still a big pile of rubble.
How about looking for some paper?
KFG
Fight fire with fire.
An effective way to organize a weenie roast. A rather poor way to organize a village to hold a weenie roast in.
Fight back? Damn straight, but forgive me if I would prefer a method that doesn't leave me standing in the smoldering ruins of my home smuggly saying, "I won."
Or, in this case, "I Lost."
Well, that's ok. Failure is the most valuable tool you own, if you pay attention and learn from it. It doesn't look, at the moment, as if you have absorbed the lesson as of yet.
Perhaps you are not familiar with the working definition of insanity? Applying it is not good engineering, computer or social.
KFG
"wireless for convenience, wired where it matters". . . this is one plane where I'd take notice when told to switch my cell phone off!
May I introduce you to my patent on the EMP "machine gun"?
KFG
Any word on OGG support?
.ogg files and convert them into a DRM format that will be playable with Windows Media Player . . .12; available with Windows Vista: Forever, SP2.
Of course. This is the latest, cutting edge media player; and it will automagically detect all of your
KFG
vim, an application commonly run from the commandline, has gotten spellchecking as well. This actually bugs me a bit. I already have shell level spellchecking. Now I've got an extra wheel to haul around.
I suppose the next version will have an embedded MTA.
Hey guys, remember that "Unix Way(tm)" thingy? There was a reason for it. How about a little cooperation between the wheel makers?
KFG
provide "sound hoods" (although it's difficult to see how these could be designed to work well in such cramped quarters).
.Silence!
Max: We're testing the portable Cone of Silence
Chief: What?
Max: Cone . . . of . .
Chief: WHAT?
Everyone else on plane: Shut the fuck up!
KFG
I mean, who in hell wants to actually get up and take a whiz once you're immersed?
Alan Shepard solved that problem.
When ya gotta go, well, ya gotta go.
KFG
It's called a "closet."
KFG
the following is also attractive:
Indeed it is. I wouldn't mind being able to get rid of the chest band portion of my heart-rate monitor, although you really do cease to notice it after awhile.
The "smaller than a PDA" thing has me going a bit though. My monitor already sends the data to a device about the size of a wrist watch.
In fact, it is my wrist watch.
KFG
Actually, that one might be useful. I can think of a few occasions when I've wondered WTF a moderator was thinking when I might well have thought, "Yeah, well, I guess I had that one coming," to a, "-1, Fish."
Maybe what we need is a "-1, Fire!" option, because noone would understand "-1, Chocolate!"
KFG
The dude said, "let's keep it civil," on a web forum.
I'm not the troll, I'm the fish.
KFG
I am so sick of these people who feel that if said company doesnt respond NOW they are then in the right to exploit said holes . . .
.and make everyones life misserable.
You're a very confused person, ain'tcha? I've tried three times to formulate a reasonable response to the above; and failed due to the lack of reasoning in the source material.
I've been pretty much left with, "Wa'choo talkin' 'bout, Willis?"
. .
Ignorance is bliss I guess. Don't worry, be happy. Just close your eyes and make the bad guys disappear. Every two year old knows that trick.
Funny how three years olds forget it, isn't it?
KFG
http://survive2012.com/why_2012.php
Avoid the rush. Buy now.
KFG
The "vow to compete" is a useless and sensationalist addition by the author, so let's keep it civil and avoid flame wars.
Dude, did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque or something and think you ended up someplace else?
The is The Internet.
Hassan, Chop!
Hassan Chop! Yo, I can't stop
Givin you that off the wall troll slop
Hassan Chop! Yo, I can't stop
This the type of shit that you pump on your address block
Off top, I came to blow the whole spot
Solid as a rock, my whole style is unorthodox
Astronomically flamebait, to a state
Where I create posters rate, snatch ya karma like the dirty mate
KFG