Slashdot Mirror
New Windows Media Player Leaks
TacoLL writes "A new version of Windows Media Player, Windows Media Player 11, is set to be made public on Wednesday, however, it has found its way into the hands of internet users before its public release. Flexbeta has some early screenshots of the next Media Player for Windows users."
If the source found its way onto the Internet, that would be a leak. If early prototypes were released months ago, in time for Real Networks, Apple, and others to dissect what MS was cooking up in the lab, then I would consider that a leak. But "leaking" a yawn-inducing product two days before the official release? It sounds to me more like a marketing tactic intended to drum up press at just the right time, akin to the same BS that beta testing has evolved into.
Entrepreneur : (noun), French for "unemployed"
Any word on OGG support?
UNIX/Linux Consulting
MPlayer has been out for a while
echo YOUR_OPINION >
Leaks viewing/listening history through firewall directly to MPAA/RIAA?
Security leaks?
Leaks memory?
Oh, wait, you mean, the product itself was leaked.
Never mind, I'm sure the other types of leaks will follow soon enough.
Looks like their SERVER was running Windows Media 11.
Oh, wait...
Killed in less than 10 minutes - anyone have a mirror link?
...is your answer.
http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/
Supports just about everything in use and works great. I use the builds from here when trapped in Windows:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm
"It ain't a war against drugs.it's a war against personal freedom" --Bill Hicks
Two comments on this story and flexbeta is already down. Coral cache and mirrordot didn't even have time to grab a copy. Great job, everyone.
0 1 - just my two bits
Mirror,
. flexbeta.net/main/comments.php%3Fcatid%3D1%26shown ews%3D19885.html
http://www.networkmirror.com/bUeMRHp2JQWoEqXH/www
Are they going to search our call records to determine the source of the leak?! *knock knock* "Oh Hi Bill." *ziiiiiing* (BSOD)
EFF
Cool! Amazing Toys.
In the news today: Somone built an early release of KDE by hacking into their publically available anonymous SVN repository and downloading the code. They then released screen snapshots to the Internet. We now turn to our live reporter in bit-land with this breathtaking story...
The next site to slashdot will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and start slashdotting it early!
Is this really news that is worthy Slashdot?
Awesome! Does this mean yet another round of new media formats I won't be able to play without using MS proprietary software?
By reading this you acknowledge that you have read it.
I have a PIII running Windows 98SE with Windows Media Player 9 - it is very slow to load. Most of the time that I open Windows Media Player, it is to watch a quick video clip - for this, I don't need the whole music guide and library to load. It would be nice if Microsoft would make two separate players - one to quickly play short clips, and one to manage my library.
On my Linux machine (also a PIII) I use MPlayer, which can play almost any type of file and is much faster. If I want to manage my music library, I'll open up amaroK or something similar.
Are these the same screen shots that PC Mag published online this morning?
I don't care about Microsoft's UI. All I want to know is, is it going to have a new codec that will cause compatibility problems for Linux/MacOSX?
Leaks viewing/listening history through firewall directly to MPAA/RIAA?
Security leaks?
Leaks memory?
it leaks wii.
There are 10 types of people in this world, those who can count in binary and those who can't.
Works the vast majority of the time for me.
:)
[Window Key]
R (for Run)
mplayer2 [Enter]
Piece of cake.
We better start monitoring phone calls to figure out who's leaking these products!!
Heh, you beat me to it. Seriously, the best marketing for Microsoft is to "leak" one of its products.
"Ooh shiny^Hleaked!"
I'm sure that somewhere in Redmond, Bill Gates must be laughing at us right now.
News.com has a good series of images of the New Windows Media Player available:
r t=rss&tag=6072445&subj=news
http://news.com.com/2300-1025_3-6072445-1.html?pa
Did anyone else read the headline and think "Wow, a media player with a memory leak.. that's got to sting the RAM"?
I like muppets.
It's NOT slashdotted guys. It's "Buffering..." :P
Anyone else think "Leaks" in this context meant security holes?
Ofcourse it leaks. This should be filed under "old."
Now... if it didn't leak, that'd be news.
just recompile the source with a -lhell-froze-over option. ...also worth noting: -lmonkeys-flew-out-my-butt will compile it for AmigaOS.
There are 10 types of people in this world, those who can count in binary and those who can't.
Huh, look's like itunes.
Media Player just leaked a big puddle on my computer room's floor.
Seriously, this could have been a security patch or whatever. As usual, the headlines are concise as ever.
Freedom is strength, Ignorance is peace, War is slavery.
Does DRM not protect media player?
I've got over 10,000 mp3's on my hard drive (all legally ripped from CDs I own). Do I really want to scroll though 10,000 icons of the album art in order to find the song I want to listen to? Please, Bill, please... tell me it's possible to turn the fricking icons off! On the other hand, displaying an icon for every song probably is a useful feature for my 5 year-old daughter. However, I should remind M$ that 5 year-olds generally don't make the software purchasing decisions in most households...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
I also thought that the headline meant a memory leak and an following the comments to guage what percentage of /. reader thought the same :) add 50% for those that do not want to admit their mistake :)
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
I don't know if this is what was meant, but it seems that WMP11 starts up very fast and at first uses far less RAM than 10, (12MB vs 18MB on mine) but then jumps to around 42MB during playback. But I like the fast startup more than I can actually feel the effects of the RAM usage increasing, so I guess it's a good tradeoff. Of course, I hardly even use media players in the first place, so my POV may be different from someone who has it running all the time.
All your base are belong to Wii.
So that's not memory leaks this time? ;p
http://www.networkmirror.com/bUeMRHp2JQWoEqXH/www. flexbeta.net/main/comments.php%3Fcatid%3D1%26shown ews%3D19885.html
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
Who thought this article was about the new WMP having memory leaks?
I am anarch of all I survey.
Any word on OGG support?
While media player is delivered with updated codec, the shell is largely codec agnostics. There are already numerous available codec packs/interfaces for playing ogg with WMP.
As opposed to the rest of the posts 'OMGLOL WMP LEAKS!!1', this post actually discusses it. I've used it. Its available to download from softpedia.com I found it to be rather nice and would definitely prefer it over iTunes if I still used it (iTunes). URGE is no iTunes music store but I never used that in any case. It has a slick look, uses less mem than iTunes - more than Winamp or foobar of course, and the responsiveness is quite good. I've never really liked Windows Media Player, always thought it was clunky and bloated but this seems to be a release where they got it right. I highly recommend checking it out.
Or if it was Firefox you could say the same thing, eh?
holy who gives a crap, batman! as uninteresting as this is, I'm sure I'll have to package it shortly because some exec wants to watch some shitty video which requires it. I'm also sure it will be a pain to lock out all of the program guides and checking for updates and other annoyances. They supply an enterprise deployment kit to aid in config, but why isn't all that junk turned OFF by default? grumble
Don't need the latest rad textured skins. Don't need a google-strength management interface. Is it too much to ask for media player to just play media? I'll bet this bloatware is bigger than the bare essentials of the OS's it gets installed on.
What about Windows Media Encoder 11. I would love to use 10, but it blows at trying to encode VOB files. Using a popular format with surround sound support would be awsome.
:(
I know it's blasphemy to hype up Microsoft, but their WMV format is really good. In fact, right up there with DivX. Just wish their next Encoder appliaction didn't suck so much ass
Life is not for the lazy.
about the media player looks. It's the quality of the pR0n on it that really matters!
Setting his threshold to 5, Sparky eliminated most of the trolls on /.
iTunes leaks more than WMP11 (which doesn't leak at all) and Firefox (which was designed to leak) together. :o
I suppose slashdot should just give subscriber status to Coral and mirrordot to get the pages ahead of time. I think the influx of subscribers will slashdot the site before it even becomes available to the general public.
Proof by very large bribes. QED.
When I first saw this headline, I thought to myself: "Yeah, no shit, everything written by Micro$oft leaks." Then I read TFA.
Other than this text, there is no discernible information contained in this sig.
Open Exe, WGA stops me.
.INFs, and WGA is bypassed entirely.
Unzip, run the seperate hotfix-style executables, right-click-install on a few
Way to go, Microsoft.
~The TwoTailedFox posts again....
Currently downloading from here . Lots of product information on the page also.
Videolan it is my player of choice on ALL operating systems I use, Linux, MacOSX and windows. In linux I also use other things too, XINE, TOTEM (also based on Xine libraries) and gmplayer.I NEVER use VMP or Quick Time (not even on MacOSX). Under windows, in addition to videolan I also use DOGMA now and then. Videolan is my favorite because:
1) it has (about) the same interface on all noperating systems I use
2) Better control of image properties under linux. For example for Intel integrated graphycs or Trident or NeoMagic only videolan ofers full control of image properties. gmplayer and xinelib based players may suppport more formats (including real player, that is , if win32 lib is installed) but do not offer full control of image properties (they do that only for ATI an d NVIDIA cards, but not for Intel, Trident or NeoMagic)
Does this one support CDTEXT? Or is it full of useless features?
What are these screenshots showing us? I see nothing more than a glossed up GUI and a bumped version number. Perhaps this is all it includes?
You can find the screenshots here.
No, seriously. Am I the only one who thinks that the screenshots are rather unimpressive? I clicked through every single shot and read the description of the features. I can't find anything special.
I thought he meant Memory leak.
Windows Media Player is a great example of a piece of software that has reached maturity, and been going steadily downhill ever since. Everyone who's had to struggle with a slow computer with windows knows that version 6 (6.4 specifically, I think) was when WiMP essentially reached maturity. Really, what more possible features could you need in a media player other than the usual play, pause, rewind, etc. buttons, and some useful codecs (which, of course, Microsoft would never even dream of distributing, as they promote "piracy", or help alternative formats like Real).
l I'm even aware of at east one open source media player project based off the WiMP 6.4 design (has essentially the exact same look and feel, but is supplied with all the good codecs), namely "Media Player Classic" (here).
Since 6.4, which was last distributed with Win2k (though the auto-update features try their darndest to sneak the newer versions in), WiMP has gotten progressively worse. Version 9 was a disgrace, and 10 was even worse. Seems like the only innovation Microsoft has to offer in media players is bundling in more DRM features that no one wants, useless and ugly skins, and support for their own worthless WMV/WMA formats.
Please, don't use this new "feature"-laden crapware. Microsoft should take a hint from VLC or mplayer, and realize that we don't want the useless junk they're piling on. The reason why VLC and mplayer are so great is they do one thing and do it well: play media. Period.
http://cltracker.net -- powerful craigslist multi-city search
Because I am a lazy person. I use RipIt for ripping my CDs and the default is set to OGG. RipIt is fast, it is run from the command line and it does the job in no time. Why bother with lame or other rippers?
Anyone who attended NAB 2006 in Las Vegas last month would have seen the tons of signage, brochures and other promotional material from Microsoft showing off WMP11.
Yet another realease of the mediocre and slow media player from microsoft, that phones home every couple of days to "update licenses" and make sure you don't have any music that you didn't pay the RIAA for. Why does anyone use WiMP? There are a lot of win32 media players out there, and ironically the one that comes from microsoft is the least functional of them all (ok, maybe i'm exaggerating here). Why don't they "borrow" WinAmp's code so they might actually have a good mp that comes built in to windows?
yup, we don't want no leaks around here!
I'm sure Billy boy can get George IV to spare a few operatives to track down these bad boys!
Oh, you mean they might have done it on purpose? Why would anyone do that?
-What's the speed of dark?
I could never get used to the Media Player interface. It feels like everything is slightly off and it's a lot of effort to use. I would compare the feeling to the difference between a diner and a restaurant. It's just subtle and hard to explain. In the very late 90's I was a combination Real Player/Real Radio fan, then switched to Winamp/Shoutcast and haven't looked back since. Now Winamp is starting to slide ever so gently since the original team left and AOL took it over. Real play is not an option anymore. If Winamp starts to turn me off I really don't know what I would gravitate towards.
It seems like the main thrust of the (very large) MSFT exhibit was VOD (video on demand), but WMP 11 was prominently displayed, along with a promised new buy-your-music-online program... the partner's name escapes me at the moment.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
* Ducks *
Don't think that a small group of dedicated individuals can't change the world. It's the only thing that ever has.
... it's been available to everybody that's ever had their hands on a beta version of Vista?
Maybe I'm missing how this is news, but I saw these screenshots months ago.
I'm sorry for all the apple fanboys out there, but I think WMP 11 actually has a better GUI and is less of a memory hog than iTunes. Hopefully this a sign of better things to come.
Nobody ask because nobody care.
Has it got a hole in it? hahahahahahahaha!!!!RD
Give me good ratings or I will close down the internet.
Leaked? Really? Pretty sure I could have snapped some screenshots of WMP11 from the last few copies of the Vista CTP from TechNet. :P
I use an iriver mp3 player for a combination of home-ripped oggs and napster to go DRM wma. Not much choice but to use WMP 10 (will try WMP 11 after it is shaken out a little). Fairly easy to find ogg codecs for WMP (e.g. http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/ ). But these only allow you to play oggs, and they get treated as Other Media instead of Music. There is a project named WMP Tag Support Extender found at http://wmptagext.sourceforge.net/index.html which will recognize the tags and allow you to have much better functionality. A little more info can be found related to my iriver solution at http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34423
is to download some cd covers that i would otherwise be to lazy to do manualy
It's definately a visually nice ugprade from WM 10, and it does look better than iTunes in some ways on my PCs, but it definately does not look better than iTunes on my Macs, which use their GPU to render true 32-bit windows with crystal-clear anti-aliased fonts. The Mac version of iTunes also has a very tiny footprint in memory for what it does, and uses virtually no CPU time to playback my Apple Lossless music; Less than 4% on average. True OS level integration with OS X makes it a completely different app than what it is on my PC. Just to clarify, it runs good on my PCs, but it runs great on my Macs. It runs better on my 3.5 year old PB, than it does on my newer and much faster Athlons.
;)
I'm into the black glossy look they used with WM 11, I actually just worked on a site design that used a similar treatment, but the buttoms are obnoxious in size and the fonts look bad. The non-aliased window and Window's close/minimise/maximise buttons also bring down its appearance in my book. And MS can thank Apple for glass/glossy look, not for coming up with it, but definately paving the road for its widespread implementation. Apple actually toned down their use of it with OS X 10.3. They relized that it was distracting for us pro-art-peeps, so minimalized its use.
Anway, I'll need ot download and try it out, but I can already tell that it doesn't look remotely as intuitive as iTunes, which is way more important than a purdey interface.
<]=)
Remember: It's Windows Media Player for Windows 11.
WMPfW for short.
WhiteWolf666 an exBush supporter. All you new-school,compassionate,save the children Republicans can rot in hell
...in the voice of that talking space-ship from "Flight of the Navigator":
"I don't leak. You leak!"
(Best talking space-ship urination joke ever!).
What are you talking about?
The page you linked to doesn't list support for the Ogg container format or the Ogg Vorbis audio format. The ffdshow audio decompressor page doesn't list Ogg Vorbis and says that it is "almost unusable".
The Vorbis software page suggests Media XW insted.Other options for Ogg Vorbis support include Illiminable Ogg Codecs for Windows and OggDS. OggDS has been around the longest, but it's now unmaintained and last time I tried it it didn't support adding files to the Windows Media Player library (I had to drag and drop single files into the Windows Media Player window to play them). Illiminable also claims to support the new additions to the Ogg family such as Speex, Theora, and FLAC, so that one seems more promising.
There's also a program to edit Ogg Vorbis files inside Windows Explorer called Vorbis Extension.
you've just got to cry yourself to sleep over having to watch porn suitable for wmp 9 :(
...I'm now certain that Microsoft must have a new contractor.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, write technology blogs.
While we're at it, isn't most of Microsoft's software long past mature? I do my finances in Excel 95, and not only is it more than sufficient for the task (graphs included), on a modern processor its response time is literally instant--you hit Tab or Enter and it's immediately waiting for your next input, recalculations and everything done, and this in a ~100k cell file. The 1-second loading time is nice too (hi, OO.o).
Didn't earlier builds of WMP11 get leaked months ago or am I mistaken?
I have a huge problem with windows media player. Microsoft does not support a good step through frame commend, reverse playback, or quicktime like encoding features with export/import of frame sequences etc.
I always use Windows Media Player Classic because it does so much more than the media player when it comes to playback control and it works better overall, and has a better interface.
Microsoft is trying to make it into itunes, rather than turning it into a real media player. It is a one big button ui. Any advanced video control functionality is either missing or hidden (i cant find them)
They may have a pretty skin, but the player itself always falls short of being a real video player.
They want to be itunes, and not a real video player for all who need it. Apple does it far better with quicktime on the Mac, and their PC version while not as good as the mac version is still useable for content creators/video editors.
The Microsoft Media Player on the other hand is a toy, thats chasing Itunes.
My music is already in Itunes Microsoft... If the media player 11 interfaces with my Ipod i'll maybe consider it, until then... i dont really care about the itunes like features.
Microsoft has always been late to the party, and they do this weasel like catch up strategy, that never satisfies...
WMP 11 is just another Microsoft mess. Get it right or get rid of it. Its fucking version 11 already.... How many versions do you need before you add real video playback controls?
I just noticed the IPOD listed in the branch list... I guess they have made it interface with the Ipod.
...the installer sure can be greedy.
Don't tell anyone! Shhh! VLC 0.8.5 was released recently -- downloads are something close to 1 per second. The list of supported formats is pretty incredible ...
:)
Plus, Windows Media Whatever doesn't work on my Linux box
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
Your hopes are not in vain. Just read any review of M$ AdCenter or Vista (train wreck ... not compelling to human beings). The slow down is not gradual, it's instant, and the damn thing might not work at all.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
You'll enjoy WMP's View:Enhancements:Play Speed Settings, which is where frame stepping and reverse playback live.
(At the risk of losing some Karma...and I'll post this without any karma points, too...)
GUYS, WHERE's the sense of HUMOUR???!!! Of or ON topic, it is still funny.
(Leaks? It leaks PUS, that's what it's leaking.)
Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
What planet do you live on? There's lot's excitement for people who discover GNU/Linux. Expectations are typically low, thanks to massive FUD campaigns. A by product of that FUD is an air of the dangerous and new that's irresistible to many. Those that bother to try and stick with it long enough to overcome the bad habits of commercial software are amply rewarded. In the end, they find the joy of free software, which continues to grow. Browsing software repositories is like walking through a candy store where everything is free and the candy only gets better as time goes on. New programs make it feel like Christmas all year long. What does the five year and counting M$ train wreck release cycle have to match that? Zip, zero, zilch, hype, FUD and other hot air.
Most of the people I know have barely heard of free software and are heavily FUDed about it. They have this strange notion that it's hard to use and won't work with their hardware. Some even confuse it with copyright violation and think it's somehow tainted and immoral. Big players, like IBM, Lowes, Chrysler, etc, have helped to alleviate the "rebel" image but the FUD still stick because the big dumb vendors like Dell still don't offer a GNU/Linux desktop machines for end users.
Anyone who's used a GNU/Linux system for any length of time knows the FUD for the BS but the discovery never ends. Media players are a prime example. I've been using free software since Red Hat 5.x in 1998 and I've watched a steady and constant improvement. Back then, things were so nasty I did not even bother with sound. Then came vorbis, sox, autoconfiguration, ALSA, xine and suddenly audio is easy. Today, you can get live CDs that run Amarok, which has to be one of the finest media players available. Amarok excels as a media player as Konqueror and Firefox excel as browsers. Everywhere you look at a GNU/Linux system you see more excellence. The product is greater than the sum of the parts and M$ can't keep up to save their life. Hell, they are finally getting a browser with tabs and a multiple desktop GUI, but it's so bloated and top heavy with, virus checking and DRM it won't even work.
The final, unmatchable and exciting discovery is how free software really works. Far from being evil, free software is morally superior. No free software project has ever sued a public school for copying a text editor and none ever will misuse the government and laws in such a hideous way. What Microsoft dissmisses as "Communism" is actually co-operative capitalism and free market innovation at it's finest. Getting something for nothing and finding out that's the way it should have been all along feels great. The lies and harm M$ heaps on free software all backfire and the user is left with an unshakable commitment to their own software freedom.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
You-know-who DID stole these features from Amarok.
Quite possibly the best media player that Ive played with.
It has the following features:
1. Searchable by partial keywords on title/artist
2. Shows record art cover associated with the song
3. Displays LYRICS (oooohhh)
4. Plays both static media files and streaming medias
5. Has minimal skin, but its better than WM.
I dare say, that you-know-who, has ripped off the open-source community of its ideas.
Oh yeah, its available only on Linux/KDE platforms.
New Windows Media Player Reeks
HD Trailers
Well I like Windows Mediaplayer 11. Just got it and I must say it runs extreamly nice. Looks beautiful and runs very stable and smooth. I like it more than Amarok, then again I like any other Media Player than Amarok, it sucks... But no matter what, XMMS will always own me.
Linux, because a PC is a terrible thing to waste.
This really pisses me off. I use iTunes to manage my music library (got an iPod), but WMP detects my podcasts trying to download and wants to takeover.
That is so funny. You have named the two top players that do that. I wanted to watch a video. It was in Quicktime format. I went to download the Quicktime player..
Suprise. I couldn't get just the Quicktime player. You have to download and install I-Tunes which comes with Quicktime. I use Winamp and have the same problem with I-Tunes you have with WMP.
The truth shall set you free!
I am not a computer geek, but have Mozilla and can build my own PC (roughly). So for those of us with no knowledge what would the experts recommend to burn and listen to Cd's, as well as organize? I use WMP but am willing to experiment.
Except that, last I checked (a yearish or so ago, I don't run windows, so maybe things have changed, but I doubt it), the reverse playback doesn't work with "some" codecs (read: any halfway modern codec-- probably anything with B-frames). I volunteer as a videographer for a kids' football team. The coaches want to be able to do frame-by-frame both forward and backward. Quicktime player has its own problems, but it does allow them to just hold left-arrow and right-arrow and have The Right Thing happen. This is a hard thing to get right (even our beloved Tivo messes this up), but it's an important thing. And not just for "pro"-type use.
Or maybe not...
Yes you can. It's the link on this page that says "QuickTime Standalone Installer".
Here ya go.
If you have trouble figuring out how I did that, here's a link.
Good luck in learning how to use the web in the future.
Really, what more possible features could you need in a media player other than the usual play, pause, rewind, etc. buttons, and some useful codecs (which, of course, Microsoft would never even dream of distributing, as they promote "piracy", or help alternative formats like Real).
Let's see, besides the usual codecs, you might have some useful features such as:
Other players manage to put these features in without complicating the user's life. Microsoft seems to have made the user's life complicated without any of the goodies. It might not really work, but that's a another story.
All of the above, however is topped by the one or two features you won't find in a free media player, the shrill warning in the "about" screen, emphasis mine:
[incomprehesible version numbers and Product ID:god-awful-oem-bs.]
Warning: This computer program is protected by copyright law and international treaties.
Unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this program, or any portion of it, may result in severe civil and criminal penalties, and will be prosecuted to the maximum extent possible under the law.
They ask you to press "OK" as if any sane person would say such a thing to their customer and that the customer should agree to such an insult.
The other feature you won't find in a free player is a desire to monopolize playback. If all of the above features are not for you, the free world has a wealth of light media players. You mentioned a couple. Xine's GUI, Noatun, Juk, xmms all have nice and light interfaces. All of the popular browsers have "open with" right click items, so you can override your default choices and none would obnoxiously slip in a new version against your will. Hell, when it comes down to it, you can just use sox and "play" from a command line, or make shell scripts to do it all for you. Simple is paths and a shell that works out of the box.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Don't cry over split milk, and I think she also meant leaked milk.
With the utter failure of their online music business and half a billion a day in EU fines hanging over their head for "integrating" WiMP only M$ would be dumb enough to create yet more crappy file formats for lock out. You can count on it.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
If you haven't seen CoverFlow in action, do yourself a favor and check it out. Far from just eye candy, it's actually quite usable as both a browser and a quick way to find the song you're looking for. Make sure to watch the video of it in action.
(Mac only, of course.)
Bonsai Kitten: TNG
"Driers," you insignificant little tard. OMG!!!Llike.. Like, OMG!!! At this moment my arse is more interesting than your juvenal rhetoric. If you "owned" a Mac, ( Which I higly doubt. ) it's good to see that a moron of your calibre has stopped using one. I'm pretty sure if you did actually own one, you would have needed assistance just to turn one on.
You wipe floors with FreeType? Intersting, do you also wipe your arse with this sort of thing? And how often do you look at shit? STOP IT!!!
Thanks for the laugh, but maybe I shouldn't laugh at retards. Hey, don't forget your saftey helmet.
<]=)
Maybe your problem is that you're using Windows to begin with. Then again, it probably suits you, as your mode of thinking is evidently intractably Windows-like. What were you thinking when you tried to use an Apple product? Fucking poser.
Bonsai Kitten: TNG
I'm seeing more of that... like the recent WSJ rejection of all Linux because the distro tried would not work iTunes (and a few "complex" M$Office docs). It's too bad people don't see the magic combination of:
The whole DRM fiasco is so avoidable and life without it is so much better. If work forces you to use Windoze, it sucks to be you but you don't have to let that take over your entertainment and home life.
By the way, the GUI that Xine makes does all the cool stuff from keyboard shortcuts you want from a video player. If you want a real video editor, go for kino or cinerella. M$ will never give you any of that any more than M$ Word can be used for publishing.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Who cares, man? It's still an awfully bloated media player with an absolutely terrible user interface and no support for file formats that we (the Slashdot crowd, not the common user) want to be able to play.
The only thing I can see this being used for is as iTunes alternative, but I consider even that doubtful.
Maybe your problem is that you're using Windows to begin with.
True. One of my machines is Windows simply because there isn't good support in other formats. The GPS utility software, Topo Maps, MIDI piano lessons, and DMX512 Lighting console software is Linux unfriendly. I don't have the skills, time, or knowledge to get them to work with WINE.
For general WEB surfing the Ubuntu machine with Firefox is the best for the job.
Comparing LightFactory to DMX4Linux is like comparing XP to PC DOS. It works, but hardware support applications simply don't run on it.
The truth shall set you free!
http://thestorageben.com/archives/2006/05/14/revie w-of-ms-media-player-11/
I guess there are strategic reasons for having an all-in-one video/audio player, but I haven't seen a good implementation/interface yet. Maybe version 11 will get it right, but I have doubts. I think Microsoft would have been better off separating Media Player into two apps: Windows Video Player and Windows Music Player. For now, I'll keep using MPC for video and foobar2000 (with Columns UI) for music.
TO START
PRESS ANY KEY
Where's the 'ANY' key? I see Esk, Kitarl, and Pig-Up...
It will not play QuickTime .mov files. It won't play DivX based .avi either. These are BIG TIME flaws.
This happened last weekend, I had it by the end of friday night! Its preaty slick in view, nice interface, URGE is good, shame ipods can't be synced as iTunes is the worst player for memory resources.
WMP11.torrent working torrent of said media player. To bypass genuine advantage, extract the exe with winrar or something like that. enter extracted folder, run wmp11.exe then restart. after restart run the three remaining exes (DO NOT RUN setup_wm.exe) umdf.exe, wmdbexport.exe, and wmfdist11.exe. Restart one more time and it should work. If it doesn't, extract wmp11.exe and use the wmplayer.exe from there. Also, remove your current version of media player to make sure you dont get any compatibility issues before installing. My opinion? i think wmp11 is better than wmp6.4. Browsing by artist/album cover is a nice touch.
I just use the alt+printscreen to capture the active window only.
ah, mod points
I'll be so happy when I can actually have a hard time remembering the last time I saw JPEG artefacts in screenshots of software on the internet. The top image in their threesome of screenshots is 200 KB and looks like ass because of the JPEG compression. For the love of all things good and pure, please people, stop using JPEG for this kind of simple stuff...
Other than that, and back on topic, who cares about Windows Media Player. It stopped being good after Media Player 6.4 (and now I use Media Player Classic exclusively). Skins and shit are for lame retards that aren't actually watching their media but looking at pretty UI widgets.
All I know about Bush is I had a good job when Clinton was president.
... so did the old one.
Hal Spacejock: Science Fiction with Nuts
"Hi, I'm trying to run Doom 3 on a 486 with a Voodoo 3D card and Windows 95, but my frame rates are around 0.2 FPS!"
Honestly...
By summer it was all gone...now shesmovedon. --
http://www.touchtunes.com/MaestroII/
you watch/listen to back to home base?
Five years and counting. Some people are more patient than others. In those five years XP has remained a network threatening security dissaster and has yet to implement basic end user features available in all other system.
Instead of fixing the real problems, Microsoft is busy working on the next generation of lock in. Remote shutoffs and forcing users to beg permission to use the OS on purchase and hardware change was not enough. Now the hardware itself is booby trapped. When Vista hits the shelf the complains will actually start.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
but I didn't RTFA
--Rob
Towards the Singularity.
Hmmm. I wonder what the IPOD was in the branch tree? I cant imagine apple letting MS access the ipod.
If a piece of software is not quite ready for Beta, it's generally not a good idea to install on a machine that's vital to your operations.
If people call much released software Beta quality, imagine the fun that awaits someone trying to use pre-beta software.
first of all, I'm guessing it doesn't run on anything but Windows, and second of all, its just a freaking media player for crying out loud, one of many, almost all of them coming with dozens of butt ugly, disfunctional 'skins'. Of course, it presumable comes with 'Microsoft DRM Inside (tm)', and we are all dying to have that, aren't we?
The download was available on one of the larger download file sharing servers as linked from the inquirer.net.
The program itself is not a major upgrade. In appearance it changed only slightly and in no way seems to be as solid as itunes.
The urge installer doesn't tell you in advance of what it is. If you click on the link in the main browser window it takes you to the download of the installer without actually describing what it is going to do, what urge is, and without asking you if you wish to continue. Pretty sad if you ask me. Poor programming, poor program management, and will make alot of people unhappy.
Always describe your software, always tell users what you are going to do, and always ask if it is ok before doing so.
You can lead a man with reason but you can't make him think.
Right now I'm on a PIII 600 Laptop and it opens in less than 3 seconds on XP. As always YMMV but IMHO WMP has always been fairly lightweight especially compared to Itunes. After that initial 3 second launch it then reopens songs/movies etc in less than 1 second. Have you unchecked "start player in media guide" under options?
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
Not that I need another media player, especially one that won't let me play my non-American DVDs. Sheesh.
The Ludwig von Mises Institute. The reasoning individuals economics
From the other day, Mark Golden of the WSJ tried out six distributions from a Dummies book. The things that worked are worth mentioning:
Basic tasks like printing, email and Internet browsing worked easily. Even though none of the Linux versions recognized my particular model of Epson color printer, the device worked fine after I designated it as a similar Epson model. Setting up email to use my account with an Internet service provider required some configuration, as does setting up Microsoft Outlook email. I was able to book an airline ticket online, reply to an invitation and look at satellite maps in the Google search engine. I also did some online banking ... my electronic bill payments went through just the same.
He had some Viao hardware issues but he was using old software and those problems might be fixed now. Two things are sure, Vista won't run on his laptop and DRM is killing M$.
As for your specific complaints, Kooka and SANE work most SCSI and USB scanners, right out of the box. Crappy wireless cards should be avoided because one or two Broadc - companies suck life. Just take it back and get one that works. Audio almost always works out of the box unless you have very new hardware from an uncooperative company. Flash sucks because it's non free but your GNU Linux desktop should be much faster than Windows.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Did anyone else notice the "portions (c) 2002" thing?
I mean, I knew M$ were behind. Now we know exactly how many years!
"Women are just like ninjas; They lie even when it is more convenient to tell the truth." ~ Unknown
I have a 7 year old (now, sob) pc homebuilt with a via board, using an amdk6-2 450 with 768 mb ram running xp (not sp2, do i seem that dumb) and two teensy hds (13gb total storage on the system) with a voodoo3 3500 agp (w/ tuner) and i use it (ya know, lack of funds to build something better, okay, i got the cash, but not the desire to transform my baby) routinely to work on autocad drawings in 3d (think 10,000's of objects) while listening to random playlists from my 4gb song collection on my (i guess) 4200 rpm hd, and never (okay, maybe when i rotate the whole cad drawing while playing a song) does it want to bog down.
I guess the question is, why is yours so slow? did you fail to optimize your services? did you fail to put the system on perform functions, not gui prettiness? did you add more ram (I'll sell you some of mine, I know it's good - 2x256 pc133 for $100)? did you kill all the non-required pieces of software?
I still get confused when "knowing" users have 30 and 40 background apps running and wonder why Media Player lags
2^3 * 31 * 647