What flexible energy storage media do you propose are easy, plentiful, and match the energy density of refined gasoline?
None that I know of. That's why in this thread and others, even though I'm a designer of alternative vehicles and non car owning cylist I have to keep "defending" gasoline.
It's not going to go away until it's gone.
Perhaps you need to go back and reread my posts in this thread. I'm "attacking" hydrogen. Not petroleum.
By bringing up America you implied that focusing legislation at online predation rather than on in the home predation is somehow an American phenomenon.
I was under the impression that the American political process was an American phenomenon, yes. I did not "bring up" America. The story is American. It was pre "brought up."
We're American, we captured the Enigma Machine, remember? We'll take credit for anything.
In any case, my point was something different, as I am perfectly aware of your point. They're going after email and forums when most sexual abuse begins at home.
But you get more votes going after boogeymen than saying "Yo, stop fucking your own kids, K?"
Families are practically becoming prison camps for kids... and you're telling me that the greatest danger are sexual predators on the internet? Are you f*cking kidding me?
We're just fostering good, old American values. Like putting sexual predation back in the home where it belongs.
Before we learn to walk again, we should learn to cycle again.
I'll have in about 50 miles before today is over, because I'm going to visit another city.
Back in the day, however, I used to live in something called a "neighborhood" and there was little point in cycling to the grocery store only a two minute walk away. Now the nearest grocery store is a 45 minute walk away and it's actually illegal to put a grocery store where the people who eat are.
People over here, food . . . waaaaaaaaaaaaay over there.
Bring the food back to the people. Walk first. Cycle when necessary. Try to make cycling as unnecessary as possible.
There are now shopping malls that you can rent an apartment in. We're reinventing, by need, the city, as caricature of itself.
It doesn't answer the question of where the energy must come from, true. ..
Which is the only important and difficult question. Energy storage and transport mediums are easy and plentiful.
Sever the tie between energy storage medium and energy production, and you have made real progress.
Like. ..Duracels?
How about taking a rock and heating it? Or taking a rock and spinning it? Or taking a rock someplace high and letting it fall? (Yes, I can make a car that runs on all of these, although I can't guaruntee you'll like it)
There's no particular shortage of rocks and the rocks don't get used up, since they're a pure storage medium. There's a "shortage" of "stuff" to make rocks hot, spin, high. (There's no real shortage of "stuff" either. There's a shortage of "stuff" per unit of time.Haste makes waste.)
Which is why we will continue to have an imported fossil fuel dependency for the forseeable future, no matter what storage and transport medium we use and the American government is promoting hydrogen as a fuel that will relieve us of that dependency.
It will not. What it will do is increase oil company profits. Do you really think that this administration would do anything that would hurt oil company profits?
I don't know jack about why they cost what they do.
Because we have a fossil fuel economy and a great deal of fossil fuels are burned in their production.
It's all about oil, coal and natural gas.
When I ride my bicycle am going "oil free"? Well, how do you think the bananas I'm eating to fuel my bicycle got from Argentina to upstate NY, bicycle there?
Who said it was hard to obtain hydrogen? The shit's all over the place. That's the beauty of it.
It's hard to get usable energy. That's why we have an energy crisis. Where does that electric current surging through the water storage system come from, hydrogen?
Ya got yer solar (hydro, wind and bio fuels are all just solar in disguise. By the way, fossil fuels are bio fuels. That's why "grease" cars work), ya got yer geothermal (gravity in disguise) and ya got yer nuclear. That's it.
There will be no "hydrogen economy," anymore than there is now a "Duracel economy."
It wont. On Earth hydrogen is an energy storage and transport medium. Essentially, a battery. The energy has to be put into it first before it can be extracted. "Going Hydrogen" makes about as much sense from the energy saving standpoint as "Going Duracel."
Because of the Second Law, for the time being there will be a net increase in the use of fossil fuels by using hydrogen as a fuel, just as there would be a net increase in fossil fuel use if everything were run by batteries.
When the fossil fuels get expensive, hydrogen will get expensive. When the fossil fuel runs out hydrogen will be forced to become things like solar power and be in as short supply as all other forms of solar power.
The power of the power of fossil fuels is that they are the stored and concentrated solar energy of centuries, which you can use all up in a single trip to the mall. When they're gone you'll need to learn to walk again, i.e. use only as much stored solar energy (in the form of liver glycogen) as can be reasonably concentrated in a timespan relevant to the human lifetime.
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Murderers say the costs of laws preventing murder exceed the benefits.
First off, there are no laws to prevent murder. There are laws to prosecute murder. There's a difference.
Secondly, the costs of laws to prosecute murder are often murderous, which is exactly why we let them plead to manslaughter.
KFG
Who the F. is Jessica Alba and Hillary Duff??
Girls.
KFG
I'm afraid we consider that a negative and dispirited post.
It's the wall for you. Smile. Your children will be with you. Only one of them will have a real bullet.
KFG
Naaaaaaaaaaah! The beatings will simply continue until moral improves.
KFG
My previous point was that few or no other energy storage media that currently exist could plausibly replace gasoline.
A can to put the gasoline in seems to work just fine.
KFG
What flexible energy storage media do you propose are easy, plentiful, and match the energy density of refined gasoline?
None that I know of. That's why in this thread and others, even though I'm a designer of alternative vehicles and non car owning cylist I have to keep "defending" gasoline.
It's not going to go away until it's gone.
Perhaps you need to go back and reread my posts in this thread. I'm "attacking" hydrogen. Not petroleum.
KFG
By bringing up America you implied that focusing legislation at online predation rather than on in the home predation is somehow an American phenomenon.
I was under the impression that the American political process was an American phenomenon, yes. I did not "bring up" America. The story is American. It was pre "brought up."
Get a grip.
KFG
It's time for the theoretical niceties of interoperability to meet the practical demands of customer acceptance within the Windows market.
What for, other than for Java's sake?
KFG
We're American, we captured the Enigma Machine, remember? We'll take credit for anything.
In any case, my point was something different, as I am perfectly aware of your point. They're going after email and forums when most sexual abuse begins at home.
But you get more votes going after boogeymen than saying "Yo, stop fucking your own kids, K?"
KFG
Families are practically becoming prison camps for kids... and you're telling me that the greatest danger are sexual predators on the internet? Are you f*cking kidding me?
We're just fostering good, old American values. Like putting sexual predation back in the home where it belongs.
KFG
Why is "Chuck Norris" the #1 search term in Poland?
The relevance of this does not become obvious until you note the absence of searching for Jessica Alba, Hillary Duff or Britney Spears.
KFG
Just wait until the ISS falls on The Big Easy Swimming Pool.
KFG
Before we learn to walk again, we should learn to cycle again.
I'll have in about 50 miles before today is over, because I'm going to visit another city.
Back in the day, however, I used to live in something called a "neighborhood" and there was little point in cycling to the grocery store only a two minute walk away. Now the nearest grocery store is a 45 minute walk away and it's actually illegal to put a grocery store where the people who eat are.
People over here, food . . . waaaaaaaaaaaaay over there.
Bring the food back to the people. Walk first. Cycle when necessary. Try to make cycling as unnecessary as possible.
There are now shopping malls that you can rent an apartment in. We're reinventing, by need, the city, as caricature of itself.
KFG
In the eyes of the government, we are all innocent until proven guilty.
You haven't spent a lot of time knowingly in the eyes of the government, have you?
KFG
It doesn't answer the question of where the energy must come from, true. . .
.Duracels?
Which is the only important and difficult question. Energy storage and transport mediums are easy and plentiful.
Sever the tie between energy storage medium and energy production, and you have made real progress.
Like. .
How about taking a rock and heating it? Or taking a rock and spinning it? Or taking a rock someplace high and letting it fall? (Yes, I can make a car that runs on all of these, although I can't guaruntee you'll like it)
There's no particular shortage of rocks and the rocks don't get used up, since they're a pure storage medium. There's a "shortage" of "stuff" to make rocks hot, spin, high. (There's no real shortage of "stuff" either. There's a shortage of "stuff" per unit of time.Haste makes waste.)
Which is why we will continue to have an imported fossil fuel dependency for the forseeable future, no matter what storage and transport medium we use and the American government is promoting hydrogen as a fuel that will relieve us of that dependency.
It will not. What it will do is increase oil company profits. Do you really think that this administration would do anything that would hurt oil company profits?
KFG
I don't know jack about why they cost what they do.
Because we have a fossil fuel economy and a great deal of fossil fuels are burned in their production.
It's all about oil, coal and natural gas.
When I ride my bicycle am going "oil free"? Well, how do you think the bananas I'm eating to fuel my bicycle got from Argentina to upstate NY, bicycle there?
KFG
I don't see it as that hard to obtain hydrogen.
Who said it was hard to obtain hydrogen? The shit's all over the place. That's the beauty of it.
It's hard to get usable energy. That's why we have an energy crisis. Where does that electric current surging through the water storage system come from, hydrogen?
Ya got yer solar (hydro, wind and bio fuels are all just solar in disguise. By the way, fossil fuels are bio fuels. That's why "grease" cars work), ya got yer geothermal (gravity in disguise) and ya got yer nuclear. That's it.
There will be no "hydrogen economy," anymore than there is now a "Duracel economy."
KFG
It's also "Look, we're concered about jobs" misdirection.
Cars aren't built by people anymore; "reinventing" the car simply maintains the car culture status quo. A "reinvented" car is still a car.
In contrast think of all the jobs that would be created by eliminating the car and requiring people to do the work.
Yes, that's the Luddite point of view, but just because they were Luddites doesn't mean they were entirely wrong.
Jobs are damned easy to create. Every Congress Critter is well versed in creating mere jobs. Creating useful jobs. . . aye, there's the rub!
I wonder what sort of job the average mouse has?
KFG
It wont. On Earth hydrogen is an energy storage and transport medium. Essentially, a battery. The energy has to be put into it first before it can be extracted. "Going Hydrogen" makes about as much sense from the energy saving standpoint as "Going Duracel."
Because of the Second Law, for the time being there will be a net increase in the use of fossil fuels by using hydrogen as a fuel, just as there would be a net increase in fossil fuel use if everything were run by batteries.
When the fossil fuels get expensive, hydrogen will get expensive. When the fossil fuel runs out hydrogen will be forced to become things like solar power and be in as short supply as all other forms of solar power.
The power of the power of fossil fuels is that they are the stored and concentrated solar energy of centuries, which you can use all up in a single trip to the mall. When they're gone you'll need to learn to walk again, i.e. use only as much stored solar energy (in the form of liver glycogen) as can be reasonably concentrated in a timespan relevant to the human lifetime.
KFG
Just what do law makers do with someone that creates a virus that makes little girls clothes go transparent?
Well, with a little bit of luck they'll realize how stupid the laws are, but that doesn't seem likely, does it?
In the meantime, Mr. Smartypants, try setting your desktop background color to "transparent" and make your monitor disappear.
KFG
Now people are stealing copyrights and not just infringing upon them?
Yeah. We call them music industry "lawyers."
KFG
. . .all I really want in a computer is something that has decent performance and doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner.
No problem. Can I interest you in this box that sounds like an A-10 Warthog coming in for a kill with the Gatling gun blazing?
KFG
It is a replacement for the garbage scow going down the Hudson.
But I like to take my scow down the Hudson. That's what I built it for.
Oh, wait, you mean . . . nevermind.
KFG
Can someone lay out what the ISS has actually done for us?
It got rid of a bunch of poorly engineered tin cans?
KFG
There has got to be cheap way to do this at home.
Yeah, I can give you about 80% of that for only half price.
KFG