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MIT Media Lab Fashions

robyn217 writes "At MIT's Media Lab, researchers are developing fashion accessories on which patterns and designs can change according to the wearer's whim, and fashion prints can be shared virally via wireless communication. This technology will be a real boon for fickle New York City baseball fans at the Subway Series in the future (they can simply flip a switch to change from a Mets to a Yankees jersey."

126 comments

  1. Mods by foundme · · Score: 2, Funny

    How long until someone got a mod to have naked fashion?

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    1. Re:Mods by richdun · · Score: 1

      In other news, the ESRB announced today that it had changed its rating for MIT from 'N' for 'Nerds' to 'MN' for 'Mature Nerds.'

    2. Re:Mods by kehren77 · · Score: 1

      Better still, how long until Apple's all-seeing screen is integrated? http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/ 26/1536212

      The result? Personal cloaking device.

  2. Bad idea? by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Funny
    fashion prints can be shared virally via wireless communication.
    Shared virally?

    Imagine a viral goatse fashion hack

    ::shudders::

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    1. Re:Bad idea? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1
      Imagine a viral goatse fashion hack

      Yeah, and you do NOT want to know where Myspace ends up...

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  3. How long till... by linzeal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A virus makes people appear naked? Nude patch for reality?

  4. Give me a break... by MustardMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a freaking PDA screen showing through a hole cut in the bag. The Media lab keeps getting lamer and lamer.

    1. Re:Give me a break... by binarybum · · Score: 1

      sigh... you obviously know nothing about fashion.

      he then proceeds to cry himself to sleep.

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    2. Re:Give me a break... by afxgrin · · Score: 1

      I was wondering more about the power supply...

      despite the cheesiness of the image and story. Viral clothing? lol

      People just briefly flashing a viral goatse image across their chest nailing all the people with the incorrect permissions.

      This sounds stupid, cause no one will want to walk around with a giant battery strapped to themself. We need to have the pattern stay without a power source and just attempt to avoid issues like this. How do they attempt to conceal the circuitry?

      I'm curious as to what chemicals they plan on using to create the display... toxic organic dyes? quantum dots? mutagenic/carcenogenic dye (rhodamine-6g style)? thin films on fabrics? Hell - I propose animated tatoos ... have an OLED display tatooed into your arm!

    3. Re:Give me a break... by jbloggs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're missing the entire point. Its about what is shown and how its shown--namely that images appear that signal your social status--how clse you are to the source of that particular image. For example, if you goto an underground rave/concert, they can hand out 100 limited copies of the image wirelessly. These can then be passed on within the communicative framework virally, but each time degrade purposely in quality, thus signalling how far you are from the source. This is coupled with tracing functionality, and you can have something like an inverted digg.com to understand how your image/social signal spreads in the wild. Just look how how customizing ring tones is so popular, and you might understand that this is about moving fashion itself from something that you buy every so often to something that you can digitally change and spread daily. Besides--the scope of this project is a masters thesis so don't expect a refined/commerical physical implementation. It simply isnt necesssary for research.

    4. Re:Give me a break... by billcopc · · Score: 1

      I think the underlying problem is how everyone wants to be unique "just like everyone else". It used to be that if you wanted fly clothing, you'd sit at a sewing machine and get creative. Nowadays people just want to buy creativity. Look at all the crappy tuner cars on the road with their me-too sticker gallery. You go to a car show and you see 100 of those idiot white nigger kids, and a handful of truly artistic vehicles with airbrushing and pinstriping, chromed manifolds etc. Then you get the fashion industry that's all about indie.. mass-produced "indie". Take a piece of jewelry that looks like it was designed by a rabid gorilla, attach a picture of a chubby country-style "artist" girl with a soap-opera life story, then sell trailer loads to The Bay and JC Penney for mega profit. Or take a flimsy bright-pink made-in-Malaysia handbag, poke a few holes in it and put band-aids or duct-tape over the wound, stamp "La Sapée" on it in ShelleyVolante 24-point, then add a digit to the price and you've got the next bimbo fad.

      The world is so lost in consumerism that most people can't even remember what it was like when advertising didn't run our lives.

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    5. Re:Give me a break... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You still haven't explained the POINT of this!

    6. Re:Give me a break... by Conspirare · · Score: 1

      the current implementation is a PROTOTYPE...why is that "lame"?

  5. The downside... by ktakki · · Score: 5, Funny

    Journal Entry - 8 August 2017

    Got to work at 8:30. Pradesh, my cubicle-mate arrives ten minutes later, muttering Hindi obscenities. He's wearing plaid pants in a pattern so garish that it would make a Scotsman commit suicide.

    "Yo, Prad. What's up with the slacks? You rent Braveheart IV last night?"

    "Good gracious, no," he repies. "Someone hacked my pants on the No. 6 train."

    We spent most of the morning doing a system restore on his trousers. Got them rolled back to pinstripes just before lunch.

    k.

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    1. Re:The downside... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ha ha ha --- it's like Neuromancer, but kind of sad

    2. Re:The downside... by TheGreatGraySkwid · · Score: 1

      Except for the cube geek characters, this could easily be a snippet of dialogue from the excellent Science Fiction/Fantasy book Only Forward by Michael Marshall Smith (better known for writing horror). At one point the main character compliments a nearby building's AI for altering its lighting and color patterns to complement the unique pattern his malfunctioning smart-fabric pants had settled on that morning.

      A fun and utterly unique book. I have a review of it on my booklog.

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  6. As if advertising wasn't bad enough already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...this'll make it a lot easier for people to sell themselves as add space.

    1. Re:As if advertising wasn't bad enough already... by calzones · · Score: 4, Interesting

      not to mention easier to use large crowds of people as giant LCD screens.

      think of the stadium applications!

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    2. Re:As if advertising wasn't bad enough already... by TractorBarry · · Score: 1

      Not only that but the manufacturers will no doubt make special deals to show advertising from "trusted partners" on your clothes (said adverts being updated wirelessly whenever you go near a shop). Of course rules like the DMCA and its ilk will prevent you from interfering in this advertising !

      The saddest thing about this post is that I am actually being serious.

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    3. Re:As if advertising wasn't bad enough already... by MasterPi · · Score: 1

      Sell themselves? Most of them are paying for it!

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  7. Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought MIT was a leading technology school. How come we keep seeing this lame crap coming from them? OMG, I twisted some cat5e into a pony and had a fashion show. Or, I cut a hole in a bag so my PDA would show through. Aren't these best and brightest supposed to be working on cool things like figuring out how to mass manufacture a fabric with OLEDs? Stop posting this crap.

    Going AC here since I know folks with MIT degrees.

    1. Re:Shame by AEton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the Media Lab. Their job is to make flashy things and get funny press coverage (and One Laptop Per Child: that's right, kid with two laptops, I'm talking to you -- get back here and give me that!)

      Outside of E15, there's quite a lot of "real" (conventional, Nature-worthy) research.

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    2. Re:Shame by Dis*abstraction · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's called relevance. Specifically, unless you're doing stuff that people care about, you won't be relevant for long. From this perspective, MIT's Media Lab is thus ensuring its continuing relevance.

      By the way, evolutionary biologists understand that fashion, like geekery, has a direct and clear purpose (in the context of natural selection). Perhaps it's something you should look into before condescending to your evolutionarily more successful peers.

    3. Re:Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Should serious research into the intersection of art and technology be conducted at universities (where perhaps the most significant innovations in IT has occurred in the past), or should it be left to marketers at Apple and the video game vendors?

    4. Re:Shame by Propaganda13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      new slogan - Hypercolor for '06

    5. Re:Shame by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1

      Really. Like what happened to the Media Lab's Government Information Awareness project? Does anyone but me remember that? It opened to a little bit of fanfare when the US government was busy trying to put together Total Information Awareness. One year later--or less--it quietly shut down. I sent a couple of letters to the grad student and the professor behind it but no answers.

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    6. Re:Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a ton of cool stuff that goes on here. But it's not stuff that makes for something that is both sexy and relatively easy for the general public to understand.

      I'm not defending this project. IMO, it is lame and I fail to understand the innovation other than having some excuse to put OLEDs on a piece of clothing.

    7. Re:Shame by geordieboy · · Score: 1

      uh, nobody really cares about the Media Lab's shit. It's what's known as hype.

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    8. Re:Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can run, but you can't hide.

      AC, MIT Class of '84

  8. Unlawful Comabatants? by ghoul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to the laws of war if you are fighting out of uniform and you are captured you are considered a spy and not a soldier and do not get pow status. They have status very similar to unlawfull combatants. This is a reason lot of commando raids are done by people wearing uniform even though the raid would be easier to do if you could just be dressed as the enemy. So my question is why not use this kind of material to create a uniform which matches the enemy's uniform and if you think you are about to get captured flick a switch and switch to full uniform. Voila you are no longer an unlawful combatant and rather a POW

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    1. Re:Unlawful Comabatants? by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Other than the fact that is it wrong, I guess you could do that. War is terrible enough as it is, do we really have to think up ways to commit war crimes more efficiently?

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    2. Re:Unlawful Comabatants? by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      So my question is why not use this kind of material to create a uniform which matches the enemy's uniform and if you think you are about to get captured flick a switch and switch to full uniform.
      Voila, you are shot as a spy.
    3. Re:Unlawful Comabatants? by geordieboy · · Score: 1

      loved your work on Minix, darling.

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    4. Re:Unlawful Comabatants? by ghoul · · Score: 1

      I actually meant you switch to your own uniform so noone can accuse you of being a spy

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    5. Re:Unlawful Comabatants? by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      I actually meant you switch to your own uniform so noone can accuse you of being a spy

      Helping the enemy and not being in the enemy's uniform is traditionally used as proof of being a spy. A chameleon garment which has the ability to simulate enemy uniforms might in itself be considered a spying tool, although being seen in fake uniforms before changing back to your own uniform would surely be fatal.

      ... an age-old custom prevailed: if you were caught in your army's uniform, you were a prisoner of war; if you were in disguise, you were a spy and could be hanged.

      Military designers would surely use such technology to create "camouflage" garments which can be used to hide a soldier, and perhaps could also emulate one's own uniform. Spy agencies might use such technology to create full chameleon garments which can emulate many uniform designs, but a spy would be operating under different rules than would soldiers.

  9. More fun.. by labratuk · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This technology will be a real boon for fickle New York City baseball fans at the Subway Series in the future (they can simply flip a switch to change from a Mets to a Yankees jersey.

    Does this hint at the possibility of 24bit truecolour mexican waves?
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    1. Re:More fun.. by famebait · · Score: 1

      Indeed it does, and not only do you get full color, you even save the energy of having to stand up! Man has truly come a long way.

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  10. That'd be grounds for prosecution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    That'd likely be grounds for prosecution in certain countries, namely the United States. It's a well known fact that boobies are a prime cause of terrorism. You don't support terrorism, do you?

    1. Re:That'd be grounds for prosecution. by slack-fu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fashion leads to terrorism AND pedofilia, you don't support those right? Of course not, please put on your blue overalls and let the Ministry of Truth search your Fed-Ex packages for Pedo-Terror DVDs.

    2. Re:That'd be grounds for prosecution. by bpd1069 · · Score: 1

      Yeah really, with that attitude the Founder of the MIT Media Lab might have to call his boys at Battalion 3-16, beat you, torture you, sodomize you, then chuck you out of an helicopter over the ocean.

      Oops my bad, that was his brother, John Negroponte. My bad...

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    3. Re:That'd be grounds for prosecution. by brunson · · Score: 1

      Boobies are a prime cause of terrorism. Tyrannical Islamic restrictions on sexuality with the promise of scores of virgin wives when entering heaven causes all the bunged up fanatics to blow themselves up so they can finally get laid.

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  11. What?? by AndyAndyAndyAndy · · Score: 1

    This technology will be a real boon for fickle New York City baseball fans at the Subway Series in the future (they can simply flip a switch to change from a Mets to a Yankees jersey.

    Okay... PLEASE. As IF there are New Yorkers that root for BOTH teams at once.

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    1. Re:What?? by scaryjohn · · Score: 1

      No, but that's a good way to put a hit on a guy. Sittin' in the middle of Mets territory, then flip his shirt to a Yankees jersey, watch him get beat to death, then collect the money.

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    2. Re:What?? by hellfire · · Score: 1

      Okay... PLEASE. As IF there are New Yorkers that root for BOTH teams at once.

      I know you are trying to be funny, but there are a few serious NY baseball fans who pray for a subway series every year that it goes to 7 games and the last game goes into overtime.

      Frankly, I think these fans are a little unusual, but I used to work with one a while ago. They exist, trust me.

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    3. Re:What?? by chicagotypewriter · · Score: 1

      I know what you meant, but there is no overtime in baseball. It would be extra innings.

    4. Re:What?? by Kangburra · · Score: 1
      I know what you meant, but there is no overtime in baseball. It would be extra innings.


      And what do you suppose the Hotdog sellers claim if there is an extra innings? ;-)
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    5. Re:What?? by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Based on how Americans support sports teams, I'd imagine they'd flip the switch depending on who was winning at the time.

    6. Re:What?? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2, Funny

      Based on how Americans support sports teams, I'd imagine they'd flip the switch depending on who was winning at the time.

      Who said anything about America? He was talking about New York.

    7. Re:What?? by drsquare · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I was under the impression that New York was in America.

    8. Re:What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That feature would never be needed in Chicago since the Cubs will never make it to the Series

    9. Re:What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think that baseball fans in New York flip from Mets to Yankees depending on who's winning then you may have visited America but you've never talked baseball with a New Yorker. Besides, if your theory were true the fans would just be Yankees fans forever.

    10. Re:What?? by fm6 · · Score: 1

      A common misconception. New York is populated entirely by unsavory immigrants, liberal politicians, and "mainstream media". By the standard (Fox News) definition, none of these counts as "American".

  12. Viral Fashion i18n pack by jd · · Score: 2, Funny
    For those wandering internationally, here are the following viral fashions currently in vogue:


    • England: Not sure, but it was either designed by HRH The Prince of Wales or won an award from him for innovation
    • The Channel Islands: A "Stone De Croze" outfit (it's important to be original)
    • Australia: A cross between "Crocodile Dundee" and Rolf Harris
    • Germany: Doesn't matter - the Chaos Computer Club will upload Blinkenlights and use the entire street for a gigantic game of Pacman
    • Denmark: Is there such a thing as a viking mermaid?
    • America: Masks of any kind will automatically transform into the face of one of the FBI's ten most wanted, at random, and the jacket will carry an amazing image of an AK-47 that you'd swear was real, with a net impact on Halloween candy sales
    • Absolutely any abandoned rock quarry: Random assorted costumes from BBC science fiction series

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    1. Re:Viral Fashion i18n pack by beady · · Score: 1

      Stone De Croze?
      Wow, what a blast from the past.
      Are you just someone who knows of Stone De Croze, or are you a genuine (tm) Channel Islander?

  13. Little use in fashion, as such by AdmNaismith · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Real fashion statements are made in fabric cut and silhouette. Women's fashion is dependent on a constantly changing outline. Men's fashion might benefit, but even in a man's suit there is some variation between designers and from season to season. Changing the color and pattern is kind of useless when you've been wearing the same shirt for a week. If it get's cold, your windbreaker can't color change into a parka and scarf. I figure this has limited use in fashion design, but plenty of use as adaptive camoflage.

    1. Re:Little use in fashion, as such by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

      Little use in fashion? I've got one word for you: T-shirts.

    2. Re:Little use in fashion, as such by LordLucless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually this has little use period. This isn't some cool e-ink for printing on fabric. This is a PDA with it's screen superglued to a transparent window in a backpack. Not flexible, cannot maintain state without power, bloody expensive and impractical for large uses. It'd be no more useful for adaptive camoflage than walking around with a plasma TV haning from your neck would be.

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  14. One more yawn..? by lawaetf1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Urbanhermes defines a communicative fashion framework that would ultimately consist

    I have this idea of a robotic housemaid that can also tune my car and cure cancer. Can I get a post on slashdot?

    It's pathetic how anything that MIT can conjecture automatically makes it news.

    A teddy bear that's also a 100mbit switch? OMFG what innovation!

    I know some of the older school media lab guys and even they are getting tired of the "news" they see in Tech Briefs etc.
    Please, give it a rest and treat the rest of us like we're not damned fanboys of anything MIT does. It's a good school that does some great science but it's not some flaming oracle.

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    1. Re:One more yawn..? by jbloggs · · Score: 1

      It's called RESEARCH, you know, where you design PROTOTYPES and have a VISION. The commuicative framework is in development now, anyway.

  15. Yo, Clueless One... by PingXao · · Score: 1

    You could not have picked a worse analogy than the 2 baseball teams in NYC. While there are a number of frontrunner bandwagon fans there, they are few and far between as compared to a place like Dallas or Los Angeles. No self respecting Met OR Yankee fan would be caught DEAD wearing the other team's jersey. It appears as though your lack of fashion sense is only exceeded by your complete inability to gague quality-of-life issues re. sports in the Big Apple.

    1. Re:Yo, Clueless One... by perrygeo · · Score: 1

      I also found the NY Baseball reference a bit, um, culturally uninformed. Virtually every Met and Yankees fan I know would rather sell their family than wear a jersey from the "other team".

    2. Re:Yo, Clueless One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you notice, he said "fickle" New York fans... I know more than a few fans that switch sides when it suits them. Die-hard fans would never do such a thing.

    3. Re:Yo, Clueless One... by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      But.. "fan" is short for fanatic, is it not?

      So how could someone with no team loyalty be described as "fanatic?"

      Wouldn't they be called, "mods" for "moderate?"

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  16. Lame. by XaXXon · · Score: 1

    How lame is this? They're prototype is a zaurus in a plastic see-through pocket from the outside.

    1. Re:Lame. by Conspirare · · Score: 1

      ok, so what if the prototype is a PDA and a window? the point of a prototype is a rough sketch to *see* the idea! you are also discounting the content on the pda!!!

  17. Hidden Implementation by slashbob22 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Much like Hot Coffee and the Oblivion Skins the "Naked Fashion" is already implemented underneath. Commenting out the "fabric" will result in an change in rating.

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  18. You could make... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    An I'm with stupid T-shirt that always points to the specific stupid you mean.

    1. Re:You could make... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      Until somebody hacks it so that the arrow points up.

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  19. This is really great. by Who235 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What an exciting and entirely appropriate use of technology.

    Frankly I was wondering why this hadn't been done yet.

    This kind of radical thinking is sure to keep MIT right at the top for years to come.

    Boy am I glad we crawled out of the ocean, fought off fucking cave bears and developed huge brains because this is truly the culmination of all our hopes as a species.

    Look on and be humbled by our own magnificence, people - this is our finest hour:

    We can wirelessly change clothes!!!

    1. Re:This is really great. by Hoplite3 · · Score: 1

      I can currently change clothes without the use of wires. We need something else to be our finest hour. Like omg ponies.

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  20. viral fashion? by Jim3535 · · Score: 3, Funny

    fashion prints can be shared virally via wireless communication.

    How long before a "kick me" virus gets loose?

  21. I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    This kind of technology would be better suited for something like a wireless OLED signpost that could warn a motorist of any car accidents ahead or black ice on the road etc....

    Much more useful than using it for some no good punk teen with too much money..

  22. Patterns for $2.50 each! Cheap! by Laxitive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, you will NOT be able to switch from a Yankees Jersey to a Mets Jersey in the flip of a switch. That would violate intellectual property rules.

    But you'll be able to do things ALMOST as cool. For a low payment of $2.50 per use, your fabric will connect to a AT&T mobile fabric pattern access point, from which you will be able to download AWESOME patterns which include all your favourite TV stars, American Idols, and Pop Starlets. "Locked" fabric will be rented to you at discounted prices in exchange for 2 year contracts costing roughly $200. Fabrics will be locked to only allow patterns from the manufacturer you bought it from. You will not be able to upload patterns from your computer to your fabric. You will not be able to share patterns with your neighbor.

    Enjoy your high-tech clothing of the future.

    -Laxitive

  23. the obligatory "Related Work" section by six11 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I should probably submit a shameless plug for some of the related work that our collaborators in Colorado are working on:

    An LED tank top playing Conway's Game of Life and an extensive guide on do-it-yourself sewing circuits. Very nerdy, and very cool. The idea here is that you can have computationally enhanced stuff available for people doing craftwork. They have a lot more awesome stuff, but you'll have to click around for it.

  24. Good idea for geeks? by bulletman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think so. Ever see some of the syntax highlighting schemes some Vim users have come up with?

    Stephen

  25. Ugh... by MagicDude · · Score: 1, Funny

    This technology will be a real boon for fickle New York City baseball fans at the Subway Series in the future (they can simply flip a switch to change from a Mets to a Yankees jersey.

    Anyone who needs a jersey to switch from Yankees to the Mets doesn't deserve either.

  26. This is all well and good by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    but the inventors are not thinking this through... Have you seen what some people wear with 'regular' materials? Anyone ever want to kill the person that thought "hmmm, spandex will look good in XXXXlarge canary yellow" ???

    Have any of you seen what gets worn at high schools? (no, I'm not a pervert) but there are groups of people that would take self expression to an entirely unexpected new level if they could change it before getting caught...

    Have you ever seen the gay pride parades? Mardi Gras? Imagine that in the mall or your local TGIF's on occassion. If clothes could make it look like the wearer was naked, but not be, more people than you think, and certainly people you wouldn't want to, will think its fun to do so.

    Not that I think such innovations should be held back, but there are some serious consequences to our laws and society with the introduction of such things... and trust me, the judiciary is NOT ready to deal with it, whether it is innovation or change, they are not prepared to deal equitably with either.

    Just what do law makers do with someone that creates a virus that makes little girls clothes go transparent? There are some serious things to think about with technology, and UNFORTUNATELY, our law makers have NO CLUE what to do with it other than react like they were born with the patriot act in their mouths (or pick your preferred orrifice).

    Yes, I'm paranoid... at least when it comes to anything that requires law makers and politicians to have common sense and good humor.

    sigh...

    1. Re:This is all well and good by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just what do law makers do with someone that creates a virus that makes little girls clothes go transparent?

      Well, with a little bit of luck they'll realize how stupid the laws are, but that doesn't seem likely, does it?

      In the meantime, Mr. Smartypants, try setting your desktop background color to "transparent" and make your monitor disappear.

      KFG

    2. Re:This is all well and good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone ever want to kill the person that thought "hmmm, spandex will look good in XXXXlarge canary yellow" ???

      I'm sorry but as a European and am not familiar with such a phenomenon ?

    3. Re:This is all well and good by westlake · · Score: 1

      Just what do law makers do with someone that creates a virus that makes little girls clothes go transparent?
      I'm paranoid... at least when it comes to anything that requires law makers and politicians to have common sense and good humor
      You do not play sexual jokes on kids. You do not probe mil net without paying a price. To anyone but a Geek, this is not rocket science.

    4. Re:This is all well and good by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      "and UNFORTUNATELY, our law makers have NO CLUE what to do with it other than react like they were born with the patriot act in their mouths (or pick your preferred orrifice)."

      I guess I'd rather they REACT like that than be that way in the first place and quashing whatever hope of a technological future we might have. Least that way the cats already out of the bag.

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  27. Watchmen by TomHandy · · Score: 1

    This sort of reminds me of the special fabric Ozymandias developed in Alan Moore's "Watchmen" (which was used by Rorschach for his mask).... although in that case, I think the fabric just randomly changed patterns, it didn't provide a way to control what patterns were being shown at any one time. It does seem like the Rorschach-style mask would be pretty simple to do with this though, all you'd have to do presumably is set it up to randomly change patterns.

  28. oh great: by atarione · · Score: 1, Funny

    ~~~ For instance, a T-shirt could be solid blue one day and striped the next, she said. ~~~

    all i need is the smelly nerds at work wearing the same tshirt (albiet with different colors/patterns) all week...

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  29. Escaping brand logo evangelism by quokkapox · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This is a lame article but the evolution of this type of technology could really help us move away from the silly behaviour people exhibit such as wearing clothing that prominently features corporate logos whose corporate advertising campaigns have managed to associate with certain "popular" attitudes.

    What does it say about you when you wear a t-shirt with a Nike swoosh on it?

    I'd rather see people walking around, freely exchanging memes on their shirts instead, something more complex than a band name or an athletic wear logo. Ideas, slogans more profound than "just do it". That would be a nifty way to exploit new technology to facilitate human communication in ways that haven't been as widely experimented with until now.

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    it's a blue bright blue Saturday hey hey
    1. Re:Escaping brand logo evangelism by Who235 · · Score: 1

      Yeah.

      Or they could have five different innane marketing slogans and five different stupid band names on a constantly blinking nightmare shirt that would give us all epileptic seizures.

      I like your optimism man, I just don't share it.

    2. Re:Escaping brand logo evangelism by nagora · · Score: 1
      What does it say about you when you wear a t-shirt with a Nike swoosh on it?

      It says "I'm a fucking moron who pays to work for someone else. Please take my money."

      It's really a very concise way to communicate.

      TWW

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  30. Re:Shame (not) by Acid-Duck · · Score: 1

    I, on the other hand believe they are on the right track. You have to realize the group of ppl who are responsible for this project even admitted themselves as said in the article the prototype was somewhat "simplistic". This for them is a proof of concept to perhaps do a bit of research see if ppl would adopt such a technology. Once they've got their things going and perhaps some ppl convinced about their idea ready to invest they could buy some of these babies. Erik

  31. Philips has already developed it..... by tfg004 · · Score: 4, Informative

    > researchers are developing fashion accessories on which patterns and designs can change according to the wearer's whim

    It has already been developed, by Philips Research in the Netherlands, with the possibility to modify the patterns on your textiles e.g. by bluetooth or GSM.

    1. Re:Philips has already developed it..... by jbloggs · · Score: 1

      What you are pointing to do has nothing to do with the goals of the system. There are many different technologies out there in computational fabrics--this system is more focused on the underlying social signaling issues and viral communication, which is why its just a 'pda in a bag'.

  32. Nerd fashion explained by quokkapox · · Score: 1
    When I find a fashion design I really like, I purchase multiple copies of that design. This allows me to wear a fresh copy of something I like every day, while conveniently facilitating laundry sorting on the weekends. There are several identical shirts and pairs of pants to wash over the weekend. If one is stained or damaged, I can substitute another identical copy.

    People think I rewear the same clothes too much, but I revel in private satisfaction as I don a completely clean outfit every day.

    Note that I do not associate and individually number my socks; I try to buy enough indentical pairs so that it doesn't matter if I mismatch them occasionally. Thus they still wear fairly evenly.

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    1. Re:Nerd fashion explained by Eideewt · · Score: 1

      Something really amuses me about the idea of tricking people into thinking you don't often change your clothes.

  33. If I were gonna hack pants? by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    picture a schlong, outline on bluejeans, emerging from the 'zipper'
    and that reaches to the kneecaps,
      and swings from left to right as the individual walks....

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  34. damn, and i thought i'd invented this... by cyclomedia · · Score: 1

    it was in a dream a few months back. though it was a sofa that could be changed, it had a 1" square grid that could be changed. still upon waking i wrote it down.

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  35. MIT = by jamesl · · Score: 1, Funny

    MIT = More Irrelevant Technology.

  36. Must be like architecture school by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Where they brow beat the students into coming up with oulandish (and usually fugly), unbuildable designs so that they can "hone their art."

    A million monkeys...

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  37. Snow Crash pg 311 by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 1
    "The binocular guy nods, reachs up with one hand and presses a lapel switch. The next time he turns around, a word is written across his back in neon green electropigment: MAFIA

    The older guy turns away; his windbreaker says the same thing.

    Hiro turns around in the middle of the gangplank. There are twenty crew members in plain sight all around him. Suddenly their black windbreakers all say, MAFIA. Suddenly, they are all armed."

  38. Be on the lookout for a man by UberHoser · · Score: 0

    Dressed in a green and white striped shirt.. no wait, a blue and grey striped shirt...no wait... a red and white stripe shirt.. OMG it's Waldo!

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  39. Great Idea For More Useless Information by w1cked5mile · · Score: 1

    Excellent, I'll be able to read hot chicks blogs off their chests without looking like I'm staring at their boobs.

    (How appropriate, the image word so that I can post this is "sexist". Thus proving /. is psychic.)

  40. GPS enabled yet? by sammyo · · Score: 1

    The logo should switch automatically depending on which
    side of the Chicago. Can you see the the scene, riding the
    El and all the jerseys switch from Cubs to Sox?

  41. Is the Author paid by click count? by sammyo · · Score: 0

    Check out the posters sig and the authors first name? Correlation? Nawww...

  42. MIT would be very dissapointed in you! by Enrique+G · · Score: 0

    Insert obligatory chant here: Yankees suck! Yankees suck! Yankees suck! Yankees suck!

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  43. Re:Shame (not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you had used "ppl" one more time, I would have tracked you down, and instructed you on the use of vowels.

  44. iClothes? by eznet · · Score: 1

    I can see it now -- Apple licenses the patent (if there is one), and opens an iClothes store where you can download the latest fashion for $.99.

  45. the ability to read slashdot on your underpants by itsthebin · · Score: 1

    smacks of irony.

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  46. Re:Hurm. by whimdot · · Score: 1

    Farewell Horizontal?

  47. The Media Lab is not all fluff by Germik · · Score: 1

    You know, as someone who knows the media lab relatively well and has worked there for quite some time,, I have to say that when most "hardcore" geeks come into the place, they just don't get it.

    The Media Lab was never really about "whoa, let's make this hot new cutting edge technology that will knock the socks off of everyone for the sake of making cutting edge technology." I have found that more often than not, while a good bit of the technology that the media lab uses can be bought online, what really makes the Media Lab special is the community and the professors who know what trends to look out for. Many of the professors there are forward-thinking and while it may look like their research is totally bogus, there is actually some idea in there that is interesting to someone, perhaps a sponsor?

    That brings me to my next point. While the Media Lab is attached the MIT, it gets nearly no money from MIT. The bulk of the money that the Media Lab makes is from sponsors. Sponsors pay the lab for rights the IP of the various research groups. As Negroponte has pitched to perspective sponsors time and time again, the Media Lab is about "messing up" in the most interesting and thought-provoking ways. My point in all of this is that because the Media Lab relies on sponsors, a good portion of the projects are flashy and fun, and these are the only ones that get covered by the press, really, because your normal neighbor doesn't really care too much about sensor networks, common sense AI, economics, or nanoscale cantilevers. I mean, the list of "cool, geeky, pushing the frontier tech" goes on, but you don't really hear much about it in the press because most people on the street don't really care.

    It should also be made clear that many of the groups work on things that everyone says is irrelevant now, but they will find in a lot of what they see around them in ten years. For example, the work that software agents did is essentially what you see on Amazon and Buy and all the rest for finding what things you might also be interested in. To be honest, I don't know the history of the work of the lab to go on listing everything, but I remember looking at the work from News in the Future and seeing that the stuff from there is also pretty ubiquitous.

    Lastly, at some places, technology is an ends and a means in itself. At others, technology's just a means to some interesting ends. At some places, new technology is just a tool used to help implement an idea one has. I think that deserves some thought.

    In short, while there is a lot of flash that comes with the projects at the media lab, two things should be remembered: a) tech isn't always the root of good research (as someone with firsthand experience, trying to make good tech the focus removes the focus from the real heart of the research), and b) sponsor-funded. Also, that at the Media Lab, many groups are more concerned about making things that people want, people will use, and things that people will find useful and cool versus just the pushing the envelope on some hot new tech frontier (we can leave that to Mitsubishi Labs and IBM, which happen to be the kinds of places that ML students go to start careers when they graduate).

    This is just some food for thought.

    1. Re:The Media Lab is not all fluff by aabbbcccc · · Score: 1

      Well, design of computers and algorithms is a fairly recent development in our evolution, but I would say that algorithmic clothes is nothing fundamentally new. We were doing it all the time already: adapting our clothes to our environment (winter/summer, inside/outside, formal/informal). So, what would be the added value of changing patterns in clothes ? Hm... I only can imagine to answer this question in maybe 100 or 200 years, when we know what our brains do with patterns. Maybe algorithmic clothes can help us with this already today, but instead of some marketing fuzz, some numbers and statistics would be more helpfull then.

    2. Re:The Media Lab is not all fluff by geordieboy · · Score: 1

      I tend to think the problem is that to make something really new and interesting, it is generally technically very difficult. If it wasn't, it would have already been done. Google's stuff is cool and interesting because they are tremendously smart and have excellent engineers. You won't get significant results out of "messing up" or goofing off or whatever you want to call it. You'll get something that might be a passable if somewhat mediocre modern art exhibit. But apparently you can also get pretty good press, as evidenced by this Slashdot article, which is presumably what keeps the lab going.

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  48. Worse, flip it to Yankees in BOSTON. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Preferably in Fenway Park. ;)

  49. Virtual slide rule! by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    Nope, it's not. For a moment there, I thought that well-dressed MIT geek had selected a virtual slide rule--a Pickett and Eckel Eye-Ease Yellow Ten-Inch Log-Log Duplex Decitrig Slide Rule--to be virtually dangling from his belt.

    And I was wondering what other dangly things were available as display choices.

    That yellow strap is way more eyecatching than whatever it is we're supposed to be looking at.

  50. Re:Patterns for $2.50 each! Cheap! by ironring2006 · · Score: 1
    If you can download patterns of different American Idols, why wouldn't you be able to download patterns of different Major League Baseball teams? Yes, you will have to own a liscence to the intellectual property of each team you download, but all Major League Baseball team liscenced merchandise falls under that umbrella branch and are divided equally among the franchises despite the disproportionate amount of merchandise the is Yankees related. From this article:
    ...the Yankees account for 27% of all league merchandise sales, the profits of which get shared equally throughout the league to the tune of more than $3 million per franchise. In effect, much of the league operates as subsidiaries of the Bronx Bombers.

    Anyway, I can see this being similar to the way people purchase/load things on to personalize their cell phones. I'm sure if this thing becomes as mainstream as the ringtone/wallpaper industry for cell phones, you'll be able to find a $5 dongle on ebay and some open source software like bitpim that will allow you to upload your own patterns, download your purchased patterns to your computer, and then share them with your friends.

  51. I don't get this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what I don't get... People already have the ability to be creative and wear a wide variety of things. But most people end up resorting to plain old conservative "what everyone else is wearing" types of clothes. So how does this "techno fashion" fit in? I already have the ability to change my shirt from red to yellow. It's called my closet.

  52. Media Lab results? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    has media lab done anything truly useful? this looks like an ego trip by a bunch of highly paid academics.

  53. NYC #1 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Switching jerseys at an NYC Subway Series would instantly trigger the "human sacrifice" portion of the show.

    There's a reason "New Jersey" doesn't have an MLB team.

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  54. Re:Patterns for $2.50 each! Cheap! by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    While I unfortunately think what you say is likely....all it takes is indie fashion designers to get ahold of this technology. I mean...is there any law thata says you cannot modify your clothing in any way you want? Is there any law saying you cannot use copyrighted material on clothing? I mean, its for personal use...and its an image....if you're nto selling it how would it be illegal?

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  55. how many days until by PMuse · · Score: 1

    For instance, a T-shirt could be solid blue one day and striped the next, she said.

    Then dingy, then splotchy, then stiff, then . . . then self-aware.

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  56. Re:Shame (not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at lease he knows ppl are reading his comment :D

  57. Almost. :) by jd · · Score: 1
    My uncle is a Guernseyman, my father & grandfather taught at Elizabeth College, and I have visited there (and Herm) many times. So although not a native of Guernsey, I feel I know it as well as any non-native could.


    A word of warning - if you have a metal detector, be very careful near the beaches. Back in the late 70s, I found an unexploded German bomb about three inches below the surface of an unsurfaced beach car park. (I reported it to the police - after carrying it to the house I was staying in, as I wanted to wash it off to get a better look. Ah! Those were the days!)

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