. .."owning" property *is* a grant by the government.
The word "grant" has specific legal meaning which does not at all apply to the case of seizure of property for nonpayment of taxes under a republican form of government, the taxes themselves, ostensibly at least, being payed in the first place to protect the owner's right to the property and derive from a social contract with other property holders, not the government. What's more the legal procedures for "dispossing" of such siezed properties allows the orginal owner the chance to regain possession.
This ruling says that the government can aribtrarily transfer title from one owner to another, by fiat. That's a grant.
However, the government retaining any extra monies other than those that are due to it is clearly theft. Although not directly applicable to the situation under discussion Mark Twain's essay "To the Person Sitting in Darkness" has some very relevant words.
I cannot bring myself to invoke Date's Incoherence Principle against you, since your post it, at least, coherent.
It is, however, such an incredible mish-mash of historical ignorance and fundemental misunderstanding of American political and legal philosophy that it baffles me as to where I would even begin to address it, and how I could do so without teaching a course in American History.
So I will simply recommend that you read:
1)Liberty! The American Revolution -- Thomas Fleming 2)Alexander Hamilton's (The "Head Fed") opinion of the Bill of Rights
and
3)The Constitution (which, by the way, the Bill of Rights is a part of, therefore listing it seperately is redundant)
You might also want to think about the ramifications of your own post, as you don't seem to have put much time into that.
It is very difficult to overemphasize quite how evil this ruling is.
It is so evil it extends itself into the Fifth and First Ammendments. Don't like that "hippie" commune next door, the "dirty" bookstore or an independent political opponant?
No need to fight in the "American Way," anymore. Simply seize the property and hand it over to a crony for "development."
Want Randy Weaver off the mountain? Simply sign a paper and make him legally a trespasser in his own home.
This effectively makes the holding of real property a grant by the government, a fuedal/monarchial idea.
The foundation of America is the concept that real property is held by private right, and one can be secure there even against government intrusion.
Nevermind what effect this is going to have on property values by removing the right of the property holder to negotiate price on the open market, not to mention buyer confidence in shelling out any kind of real money for a home.
Not that it matters, as this is the first giant step toward "them" simply telling you where you're going to live and how much you are going to pay for the priviledge.
I've actually grabbed the source already. I've got gigs up the wazzoo at the moment (I may need to get a wazzectomy), but I'll give it a look over when I get the chance.
No, just a private message delivered in public, in lieu of an email exchange. The OT mod was both expected and well deserved. I do not post AC.
If you want to understand it click on the celiac disease link in the parent post, and then on the link to the newspaper article about cooking for celiacs.
. ..every possible car on the market seems to have some obscure award it has won. ..
Not a big surprise when you dig into the background of some of the orginizations awarding the prizes. It turns out that there's no law that says that GM can't found some orginization that gives it awards. Fancy that.
T-foam, now being marketed as the Tempur-pedic mattress, is "certified" by the Space Foundation. Ooooooooooo!
That means the product came out of the space program in some way; and that the company selling the product has paid the Space Foundation (". ..a national not-for-profit organization, to honor innovators who have transformed space technology into commercial products," according to the Kellogg School of Managment at Northwestern) to say that it's "certified" with the Space Foundation; and implies that companies selling the same product without being "certified" are somehow pulling one off on the public.
But here's the thing. T-foam hasn't been to space. It was a failure as a space product, one of the reasons for which is that it outgases toxic fumes at a pretty good clip.
Funny, they don't mention anything about that in the ads.
As a middle aged man who has lived virtually his whole life gluten free (diagnosed at 2 when I nearly died of malnutrition) I have to disagree vehemently with Carol Fenton.
There is no problem at all cooking for celiacs, other than that inherent in simply avoiding gluten.
What's hard about red beans and rice, johnny cakes or lentil and potato stew? Trail mix you just pick up and eat.
The only time you will encounter trouble is if you simply fail to accept you must live gluten free and treat your foodstuffs as if you must have gluten for some reason or other. Nobody dies from eating flat bread instead of risen bread. The rising adds nothing to the bread as food. It's fashion. Personally I prefer my food to resemble food more than aerogel anyway.
Select your gluten free foodstuffs and prepare them in a manner in keeping with their nature, not the nature of some other foodstuff (my advice to vegetarians as well).
Problem solved. It was only psychological in the first place.
Absolutely everything MS ever does is for the sole purpose of eliminating all competition.
Pretty much, yeah. The head of the MS Office division even went so far as to publicly state that MS considered their "fair share" of the market to be 100%.
but, this is actually the very first thing that popped into my head. It's the standard MS modus operandi to publish something like this when they can't directly control something they perceive as a threat.
Imply it's something the boys at R&D have been working on, and either the customers wait for the MS product (which as often as not never actually arrives) or the other developer throws up his hands and abandons.
In fact, I have no idea what MS's R&D division actually does other than supply statements and papers as necessary to effect this. The commercial software comes from the commercial development teams, not the research teams.
In 30 years of so of reading such texts I have not come across one that does not use orginizing a music library as an example/exercise.
Every musicologist with a computer has a "catalog" far more sophisticated than this, as we deal with tracking the history of a song across hundreds of years, often with hundreds of recorded versions of each song.
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The first, fourth, fifth, eight (fucking scary) ammendments are being gutted right in front of us.
.the FCC won't allow it. Guess we'll have to do it live.
Not to mention the ninth being null before the ink had even dried on it.
That, as far as I'm concerned, leaves the 2nd.
Which was first gutted, then declared to be a myth.
And if it comes to it, we will prove that these rights are inherent and not granted by any government.
Won't be televised. .
KFG
Both of which ideas you will find in Hamilton's opinion of the Bill of Rights.
KFG
. . ."owning" property *is* a grant by the government.
The word "grant" has specific legal meaning which does not at all apply to the case of seizure of property for nonpayment of taxes under a republican form of government, the taxes themselves, ostensibly at least, being payed in the first place to protect the owner's right to the property and derive from a social contract with other property holders, not the government. What's more the legal procedures for "dispossing" of such siezed properties allows the orginal owner the chance to regain possession.
This ruling says that the government can aribtrarily transfer title from one owner to another, by fiat. That's a grant.
However, the government retaining any extra monies other than those that are due to it is clearly theft. Although not directly applicable to the situation under discussion Mark Twain's essay "To the Person Sitting in Darkness" has some very relevant words.
KFG
I cannot bring myself to invoke Date's Incoherence Principle against you, since your post it, at least, coherent.
It is, however, such an incredible mish-mash of historical ignorance and fundemental misunderstanding of American political and legal philosophy that it baffles me as to where I would even begin to address it, and how I could do so without teaching a course in American History.
So I will simply recommend that you read:
1)Liberty! The American Revolution -- Thomas Fleming
2)Alexander Hamilton's (The "Head Fed") opinion of the Bill of Rights
and
3)The Constitution (which, by the way, the Bill of Rights is a part of, therefore listing it seperately is redundant)
You might also want to think about the ramifications of your own post, as you don't seem to have put much time into that.
KFG
It is very difficult to overemphasize quite how evil this ruling is.
It is so evil it extends itself into the Fifth and First Ammendments. Don't like that "hippie" commune next door, the "dirty" bookstore or an independent political opponant?
No need to fight in the "American Way," anymore. Simply seize the property and hand it over to a crony for "development."
Want Randy Weaver off the mountain? Simply sign a paper and make him legally a trespasser in his own home.
This effectively makes the holding of real property a grant by the government, a fuedal/monarchial idea.
The foundation of America is the concept that real property is held by private right, and one can be secure there even against government intrusion.
Nevermind what effect this is going to have on property values by removing the right of the property holder to negotiate price on the open market, not to mention buyer confidence in shelling out any kind of real money for a home.
Not that it matters, as this is the first giant step toward "them" simply telling you where you're going to live and how much you are going to pay for the priviledge.
KFG
What frequency. . .
Give up the AC bit Dan, we know it's you.
KFG
Many of my friends are rockets scientists. Some of them work on the shuttle, but not for NASA.
Most of the people at NASA are not rocket scientists. In fact most of them are not scientists at all and hold no scientific degrees of any kind.
You do not even seem to know what the word "scientist" means.
KFG
. . .like selling ice cream to polar bears. . .
Polar bears like ice cream, which does not occur naturally, and "Eskimos" buy refrigerators.
KFG
They're fucking rocket scientists.
If only this were true.
KFG
I've actually grabbed the source already. I've got gigs up the wazzoo at the moment (I may need to get a wazzectomy), but I'll give it a look over when I get the chance.
KFG
Much better, although sadly pathetic.
KFG
No they haven't.
KFG
Also, lest we forget Microsoft has open source'd code too.
No, they haven't:
http://www.opensource.org/
KFG
No, just a private message delivered in public, in lieu of an email exchange. The OT mod was both expected and well deserved. I do not post AC.
If you want to understand it click on the celiac disease link in the parent post, and then on the link to the newspaper article about cooking for celiacs.
KFG
The mere thought makes me wet whenever I say, "Linux Mainframe"
Ah, but what about a beowulf cluster of mainframes, hmmmmm?
KFG
. . .every possible car on the market seems to have some obscure award it has won. . .
.a national not-for-profit organization, to honor innovators who have transformed space technology into commercial products," according to the Kellogg School of Managment at Northwestern) to say that it's "certified" with the Space Foundation; and implies that companies selling the same product without being "certified" are somehow pulling one off on the public.
Not a big surprise when you dig into the background of some of the orginizations awarding the prizes. It turns out that there's no law that says that GM can't found some orginization that gives it awards. Fancy that.
T-foam, now being marketed as the Tempur-pedic mattress, is "certified" by the Space Foundation. Ooooooooooo!
That means the product came out of the space program in some way; and that the company selling the product has paid the Space Foundation (". .
But here's the thing. T-foam hasn't been to space. It was a failure as a space product, one of the reasons for which is that it outgases toxic fumes at a pretty good clip.
Funny, they don't mention anything about that in the ads.
KFG
As a middle aged man who has lived virtually his whole life gluten free (diagnosed at 2 when I nearly died of malnutrition) I have to disagree vehemently with Carol Fenton.
There is no problem at all cooking for celiacs, other than that inherent in simply avoiding gluten.
What's hard about red beans and rice, johnny cakes or lentil and potato stew? Trail mix you just pick up and eat.
The only time you will encounter trouble is if you simply fail to accept you must live gluten free and treat your foodstuffs as if you must have gluten for some reason or other. Nobody dies from eating flat bread instead of risen bread. The rising adds nothing to the bread as food. It's fashion. Personally I prefer my food to resemble food more than aerogel anyway.
Select your gluten free foodstuffs and prepare them in a manner in keeping with their nature, not the nature of some other foodstuff (my advice to vegetarians as well).
Problem solved. It was only psychological in the first place.
KFG
Google is a for-profit company. . .
Which means it is a taxpayer.
KFG
If you had a salesman with a 25% closing rate you would have the best in the world; and you would deserve to lose him.
You wouldn't get a chance to fire him. Someone would steal him from you.
KFG
Absolutely everything MS ever does is for the sole purpose of eliminating all competition.
Pretty much, yeah. The head of the MS Office division even went so far as to publicly state that MS considered their "fair share" of the market to be 100%.
KFG
but, this is actually the very first thing that popped into my head. It's the standard MS modus operandi to publish something like this when they can't directly control something they perceive as a threat.
Imply it's something the boys at R&D have been working on, and either the customers wait for the MS product (which as often as not never actually arrives) or the other developer throws up his hands and abandons.
In fact, I have no idea what MS's R&D division actually does other than supply statements and papers as necessary to effect this. The commercial software comes from the commercial development teams, not the research teams.
KFG
In 30 years of so of reading such texts I have not come across one that does not use orginizing a music library as an example/exercise.
Every musicologist with a computer has a "catalog" far more sophisticated than this, as we deal with tracking the history of a song across hundreds of years, often with hundreds of recorded versions of each song.
KFG
It's worse than that dude. The covered idea is not merely displaying information, but storing it in a database and using an RDBMS to sort it.
If that sort of thing were obvious you'd expect that orginizing a music collection would be the defacto example used in database management books.
KFG
I submit an article to a magazine. The magazine decides to publish it.
How does this constitute the magazine forcing its values on me?
KFG
What's to stop the government from arresting people who are trying to get around their censorship?
Absolutely nothing. These people are risking their lives to speak, because where they are speaking is a revolutionary act. That's rather the point.
KFG