I am sure I don't need to point out that under US Copyright law. ..
I, however, will point out that this isn't merely a US legal issue. It is a term of the Berne Convention, the international treaty on copyright to which the majority of nations are signatory.
In fact, this particular term runs counter to historic US legal tradtions.
If you offer items for download, but do not state your intentions, does this allow commerical vendors to make a profit out of your work.
If I offer the loan of my car does that mean people are free to steal it?
The default status is always that you need permission to use it, subject to fair use exceptions (which you may well still find yourself defending in court).
Copyright restrictions do not need to be explicitly enumerated. They are inherent. To use them as if you had rights to them is what requires explicit enumeration from the author.
You left out the rainbow suspendered, grey ponytailed, sandal/Hush Puppie wearing, ex-big iron, Unix geeks who use Slack.
Or build from source.
Although I prefer belts myself. And I've switched to lace up Rockports. I guess it's my IBM background peeking through. No blue suits in my closet though, thank you very much.
Actually, I use a number of different distros for different things. For instance, my standard business desktop is KDE on Mandrake. My "It's just got to be rock solid and run vim/mutt without eating a ridiculous amount of resources" console distro is Red Hat 5.2. I run the single floppy Mu Linux on my 486 laptop, which spends 99% of its time in vi, either as a text processor or ebook reader.
Linux being "fragmented" confers certain benefits upon the user. Stick around a while. You might just find you like it that way.
Not that it's really all that different over on the MS side really. Lot's of people still run Win98 (or even 95, and I've still got 3.11 on that laptop), the cutting edge home user has upgraded to XP Home (whether he really needed to or not) and the "power user" goes with XP Pro (whether he needs its features or not, more often than not).
Hell, I've got two Macs in my house and their OSs are both rather different.
The homogeny of the propriatary OSs is largely illusory, as is the "fragmentation" of Linux. It's all just in the way you squint at them.
1st - Do any of you see the hypocrisy in buying from the Russian site? Are you the same people complaining about the outsourcing of American jobs/economy?
They're just trying to hasten the revolution. It's dialectics. I'll explain it to you later.
Might be, might not be. It's a reasonable question.
Not relevant to the issue at hand though, since what's really happening here is that TurboLinux have included a WM codec with their version of xine, a Linux "product."
Yes, I believe that was the actual intended meaning. I believe the most powerful car ever registered for the road was one a Brit Blue Blood, with money and ennui, had made up in the 70s.
He mounted four Rolls-Royce Merlin engines in a single chassis.
R&T put it on their cover once upon a time.
KFG
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We're getting into issues here regarding "expensive" vs. "valuable."
An expensive car is one that you need a lot of money to order. A valuable car is one that even if you have the money you probably can't get because there aren't any on the market.
Kinda like the Hope Diamond. You just can't have it. Period. It's not for sale.
When cars like this do go on the market they are typically sold at auction, which is where Guiness gets that price for the Royale (which is a particular Royale, not the Royale in general. Every Royale was a custom one off. They vary in value.).
This does not actually make it the most valuable car in the world though. Just the one the highest auction price has been payed for.
It is guessed that Ralph Lauren's Type 57SC Atlantic is much more valuable, but it hasn't been on the market for 20 years, so it has no known "price."
It's the Hope Diamond of automobiles.
Of course the Thrust SSC is the fastest car in the world, and no, you can't buy that either.
. ..much of the value of the card is in fact in the driver and companies have a right to keep that under wraps.
No, that would be much of the price of the video card, by creating an artificial shortage through a trade secret. Or, sometimes, even just the perception of such a shortage (as per Coke's "secret" formula).
The value of a video card is in its effectiveness at producing video output, and that value is reduced by maintaining said trade secret.
. ..also imagine if this boat used more advance construction materials then were availible at the time it was made.
This is an inherent impossibility.
. ..a type of wood not known to us, that is stronger then steel?
We already know of such woods. That would, in fact, be most of them, taken on a pound for pound basis.
There are all kinds of benefits from it outside the possability of it being biblically oriented.
Which was the only point in question and the only one I addressed. Archeologically any old boat ( and "old," when discussing boats, means anything more than 100 years or so) is of interest, because building them was an oral tradition of trade secrets, and boats simply don't last very long without unusual circumstances, such as that surrounding the Vasa, those found in tombs, bogs, etc.
The secret of the Trireme is still one of the most perplexing in archeology, because there are no, and never were, any blueprints or working drawings, nor any known surviving examples. Warships have an even shorter lifespan than the average boat, since they are used, inherently, in war.
How may Japanese Zero fighters were made? How many are left?
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This is true, it is not Open Source (tm).
It is public domain.
KFG
I am sure I don't need to point out that under US Copyright law. . .
I, however, will point out that this isn't merely a US legal issue. It is a term of the Berne Convention, the international treaty on copyright to which the majority of nations are signatory.
In fact, this particular term runs counter to historic US legal tradtions.
KFG
Linspire is not downloading. They are uploading.
KFG
If you offer items for download, but do not state your intentions, does this allow commerical vendors to make a profit out of your work.
If I offer the loan of my car does that mean people are free to steal it?
The default status is always that you need permission to use it, subject to fair use exceptions (which you may well still find yourself defending in court).
Copyright restrictions do not need to be explicitly enumerated. They are inherent. To use them as if you had rights to them is what requires explicit enumeration from the author.
KFG
Awwwwwww, give 'em a break. They're just Linnovating.
KFG
. . .bigger budgets/more expenses, bigger houses/more junk. . .
May I humbly offer the suggestion that you acquire Self-Restraint 1.0?
It's free.
KFG
You left out the rainbow suspendered, grey ponytailed, sandal/Hush Puppie wearing, ex-big iron, Unix geeks who use Slack.
Or build from source.
Although I prefer belts myself. And I've switched to lace up Rockports. I guess it's my IBM background peeking through. No blue suits in my closet though, thank you very much.
Actually, I use a number of different distros for different things. For instance, my standard business desktop is KDE on Mandrake. My "It's just got to be rock solid and run vim/mutt without eating a ridiculous amount of resources" console distro is Red Hat 5.2. I run the single floppy Mu Linux on my 486 laptop, which spends 99% of its time in vi, either as a text processor or ebook reader.
Linux being "fragmented" confers certain benefits upon the user. Stick around a while. You might just find you like it that way.
Not that it's really all that different over on the MS side really. Lot's of people still run Win98 (or even 95, and I've still got 3.11 on that laptop), the cutting edge home user has upgraded to XP Home (whether he really needed to or not) and the "power user" goes with XP Pro (whether he needs its features or not, more often than not).
Hell, I've got two Macs in my house and their OSs are both rather different.
The homogeny of the propriatary OSs is largely illusory, as is the "fragmentation" of Linux. It's all just in the way you squint at them.
KFG
So in order to be known to mankind, you'd need to transmit a "finite" approximation of yourself -- hmmm...
Ya mean, like, by setting a bush on fire or something?
KFG
. . .if one treats consciousness, conservatively, as merely a form of computation. . .
In other words, they completely fudged the issue and just made up assumptions that suit their purpose.
I'm afraid that rather puts limitations upon their computations.
KFG
1st - Do any of you see the hypocrisy in buying from the Russian site? Are you the same people complaining about the outsourcing of American jobs/economy?
They're just trying to hasten the revolution. It's dialectics. I'll explain it to you later.
KFG
They misplaced 15/16th of the value that they started with.
.on the internet.
So that's where all that loose change under my sofa cushions came from.
I know what I'm going to do with it too, start a business that only sells Scotch Tape, but. .
KFG
Enterprise keeps getting renewed because UPN needs something, anything. . .
To make it at least appear as if they are fulfilling their contractual obligations to people who market Star Trek franchise craploa.
See the Activision lawsuit.
KFG
Might be, might not be. It's a reasonable question.
Not relevant to the issue at hand though, since what's really happening here is that TurboLinux have included a WM codec with their version of xine, a Linux "product."
The headline is misleading.
That's a polite way of saying "a lie."
KFG
Well, the price is about the same as Windows Media Player 9 on Windows.
Gee. What an incredible coincidence.
KFG
Well no, it doesn't actually. It only shows that TurboLinux is willing to take the risk that there is.
It will take actually selling it in quantity to show that there is a real place for Linux in the propriatary software market.
Red Hat/Mandrake, SuSE/et al have already shown there's a place for it in the commercial market.
Commercial != Propriatary
KFG
Should I just go for the tatoo then? :)
KFG
Is it a good, elegant language? Yes.
Well, I can't, of course, speak for anyone else, but in this case I'd say you're praising Sun far more than I ever have.
KFG
I used to work out of the home of a county coroner. I got to hear all the stories the next day as he traipsed in tired and haggard.
Most of these guys do themselves in in the middle of the night. They think radar can't see in the dark or something.
As it happens, neither can they.
"Hey, where did that tree come fr........WHACK!"
KFG
. . .Bugatti demanded audio perfection. . .
No. Bugatti never put a radio in one of his cars. The very idea smacks of sacrilige.
You can paint a VW blue and put a little red oval on its nose, but that doesn't make it a Bugatti.
The very idea is like my being able to buy the rights to "brand" myself Van Gough.
KFG
Maybe most for a production car.
Yes, I believe that was the actual intended meaning. I believe the most powerful car ever registered for the road was one a Brit Blue Blood, with money and ennui, had made up in the 70s.
He mounted four Rolls-Royce Merlin engines in a single chassis.
R&T put it on their cover once upon a time.
KFG
We're getting into issues here regarding "expensive" vs. "valuable."
An expensive car is one that you need a lot of money to order. A valuable car is one that even if you have the money you probably can't get because there aren't any on the market.
Kinda like the Hope Diamond. You just can't have it. Period. It's not for sale.
When cars like this do go on the market they are typically sold at auction, which is where Guiness gets that price for the Royale (which is a particular Royale, not the Royale in general. Every Royale was a custom one off. They vary in value.).
This does not actually make it the most valuable car in the world though. Just the one the highest auction price has been payed for.
It is guessed that Ralph Lauren's Type 57SC Atlantic is much more valuable, but it hasn't been on the market for 20 years, so it has no known "price."
It's the Hope Diamond of automobiles.
Of course the Thrust SSC is the fastest car in the world, and no, you can't buy that either.
KFG
You don't. That's part of the beauty of it.
KFG
. . .much of the value of the card is in fact in the driver and companies have a right to keep that under wraps.
No, that would be much of the price of the video card, by creating an artificial shortage through a trade secret. Or, sometimes, even just the perception of such a shortage (as per Coke's "secret" formula).
The value of a video card is in its effectiveness at producing video output, and that value is reduced by maintaining said trade secret.
KFG
Hey, you leave my opa out of this.
KFG
. . .also imagine if this boat used more advance construction materials then were availible at the time it was made.
.a type of wood not known to us, that is stronger then steel?
This is an inherent impossibility.
. .
We already know of such woods. That would, in fact, be most of them, taken on a pound for pound basis.
There are all kinds of benefits from it outside the possability of it being biblically oriented.
Which was the only point in question and the only one I addressed. Archeologically any old boat ( and "old," when discussing boats, means anything more than 100 years or so) is of interest, because building them was an oral tradition of trade secrets, and boats simply don't last very long without unusual circumstances, such as that surrounding the Vasa, those found in tombs, bogs, etc.
The secret of the Trireme is still one of the most perplexing in archeology, because there are no, and never were, any blueprints or working drawings, nor any known surviving examples. Warships have an even shorter lifespan than the average boat, since they are used, inherently, in war.
How may Japanese Zero fighters were made? How many are left?
And they're metal.
How many Fokker EIIIs are left?
KFG