Can you change the particle from a known state to something else? Or do you not know the initial state beforehand?
You can only know the state by measuring it. Once you measure it, you no longer have what it was you were measuring.
To use a macro world analogy, a while ago I posed the loaded question:
"What is the tensile strength of this steel tube I'm holding?"
The correct answer is that you have no idea, because you haven't measured it. You can look up a value in the manufacturers handbook, but that value is actually an average strength of similar tubes, not the actual strength of the particular tube.
So you measure it, but now that measurement is useless to you, because that particular tube no longer exists. The act of measurement has transformed it into a couple of something elses.
I think, perhaps, they should amass the plans instead. That way the lander won't crash when one contractor weighs its plans in Earth gravity and the other in Lunar.
Like I said, slight exception. I guess the root is that I consider QED the better book, but in the sense that it's in a slightly higher class, sort of a "semi-popular" format.
Herbert then Feynman would be a good one-two punch. Herbert to ground you and dispel any Woo Woo ideas about Quantum Theory you may have picked by cultural osmosis (and he's not a bad little writer either); and then Feynman to dig deeper.
. ..what was cool about QED was that Feynman built a model, without using much mathematical notation, that made surprising non-trivial predictions . ..
This is the way Feynman actually worked in his own head. A conceptual model came first, then the math to explain the model. That's the prime reason he also developed interesting and unique mathematical models and notations.
Yes, I'm dead serious. Think of it as the metatechnology handbook.
Looking at my deskside shelf and picking out those titles that others probably won't mention: A Long Line of Cells; (or anything else by) Lewis Thomas: More metatechnology, from a biologist's standpoint. How to Stay Alive in the Woods; Bradford Angier: Technology the way it used to be. Boatbuilding; Howard Chapelle: Boatbuilding technology the way it used to be. Bicycling Science; Whitt & Wilson: Technology when all you've got to make it go are your own muscles. Racing and Sports Car Chassis Design; Costin & Phipps: The basics of space frames, race cars the way they used to be; and some still are. You could also view it as an introduction to triangulation. Getting Started in Electronics; Forrest M. Mimms, III: Come oooooooooon, you know you want to be a hardware guy. Prof. E. McSquared's Original, Fantastic & Highly Edifying Calculus Primer; Swann & Johnson: Just because. Carroll Smith's Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook; Take a wild guess: The nuts and bolts of nuts and bolts (sorry, I couldn't resist). The CRC Handbook: I was going to say that I don't know why nobody is going to mention this one, but I see someone has. I'm surprised. Ironically I would have surprised that no one did. There's just no pleasing some people.
A paradigm shift in musical entertainment, if you will.
Payments for life of the author plus 70 years. It seems only fair that if the author's works are to support his heirs that your heirs should pay for your music.
Ah, I see your strategy now. Change your arguments mid-stream.
"Heritage" tomatoes. First, last and always.
You need tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do a production run of a modern processor. If you have that kind of coin kicking around, then you could afford to buy into SPARC International, or the reference MIPS designs.
Confirmation that you don't see the point, i.e., not having to buy Monasanto's genetically modified, sterile seed for every planting. Nor am I quite sure how having a million dollars implies that I have two million dollars.
If you want to dick around with toys like a Z80 . ..
I'd get myself a Z80. Three bucks. Retail. But I never said I wanted to dick around with a Z80. Although they're not toys. They're still available, in bulk, because they do perfectly real work, even today. People buy them. Lots of them.
Dealing with the issue could very well end up in a loss of money.
Losing a customer could very well lose you more than their money.
Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Once upon a time IBM was the evil empire. How did they achieve Imperial status? Largely by making sure their customers were always satisfied, even if it cost them money.
And hence nobody ever got fired for buying IBM. That was worth a lot of money.
I have no bubble to burst. I distinctly said "if," not "are."
In the past I have also distinctly said that I don't give a flying about whether Linux becomes "mainstream" or not; although I would appreciate a bit more hardware support.
Try and buy yourself an ATX Alpha processor motherboard or Power PC motherboard. They exist but are insane priced because nobody buys them but uber geeks and research/science people....
Similarly 12/24/48VDC ATX power supplies are also available off the shelf; at about three hudred bucks a pop. But if you're the sort of uber geek research/science person who really needs one, well, that's what you pay.
However, if, eventually, enough people get sick enough of the MS locked down systems there just might be a market for an outside player to hit one out of the park with an open system. That's why MS and its familiars are trying hard to get laws passed to forbid it.
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Can you change the particle from a known state to something else? Or do you not know the initial state beforehand?
You can only know the state by measuring it. Once you measure it, you no longer have what it was you were measuring.
To use a macro world analogy, a while ago I posed the loaded question:
"What is the tensile strength of this steel tube I'm holding?"
The correct answer is that you have no idea, because you haven't measured it. You can look up a value in the manufacturers handbook, but that value is actually an average strength of similar tubes, not the actual strength of the particular tube.
So you measure it, but now that measurement is useless to you, because that particular tube no longer exists. The act of measurement has transformed it into a couple of something elses.
KFG
. . .experiments will have to be done to bring people forward in time . . .
I'm doing that right now, errrrrrr, then.
KFG
No, but there's a Gap between them.
KFG
Well, it's so clean, Sir.
KFG
Bugger the costs, just charge it
On the Chinese credit card; oh the irony.
KFG
I think, perhaps, they should amass the plans instead. That way the lander won't crash when one contractor weighs its plans in Earth gravity and the other in Lunar.
KFG
Microsoft was "forced" into it like Br'er Rabbit was "forced" into the briar patch.
Controling the DRM and getting a cut of every media sale in the universe has been their long term strategy, for a long time.
KFG
At that point I may take up knitting.
That's what I'm doing tonight. I highly recommend it. A bit of weaving wouldn't hurt either.
KFG
Like I said, slight exception. I guess the root is that I consider QED the better book, but in the sense that it's in a slightly higher class, sort of a "semi-popular" format.
.what was cool about QED was that Feynman built a model, without using much mathematical notation, that made surprising non-trivial predictions . . .
Herbert then Feynman would be a good one-two punch. Herbert to ground you and dispel any Woo Woo ideas about Quantum Theory you may have picked by cultural osmosis (and he's not a bad little writer either); and then Feynman to dig deeper.
. .
This is the way Feynman actually worked in his own head. A conceptual model came first, then the math to explain the model. That's the prime reason he also developed interesting and unique mathematical models and notations.
KFG
I'd go further than that, and suggest that they don't attend a university at all.
Yeah, I left that one alone in this thread, but I haven't been shy about attacking the automatic attendance of college elsewhere/elsewhen.
KFG
QED, Feynman (I'm lying, it's not on my shelf, I forgot who I lent it to. Eschew all QM books until you've read this.)
I might take slight exception to this. Nick Herbert's Quantum Reality is a good (I think the only good) popular book on Quantum Theory.
Although written for the layman there's no Woo Woo bullshit here.
KFG
His How to Solve It is also recommended.
I've been clutching my copy to my breast for about 30 years now. Perhaps not the ideal way to make use of the volume, but to each his own.
KFG
Yes, I'm dead serious. Think of it as the metatechnology handbook.
Looking at my deskside shelf and picking out those titles that others probably won't mention:
A Long Line of Cells; (or anything else by) Lewis Thomas: More metatechnology, from a biologist's standpoint.
How to Stay Alive in the Woods; Bradford Angier: Technology the way it used to be.
Boatbuilding; Howard Chapelle: Boatbuilding technology the way it used to be.
Bicycling Science; Whitt & Wilson: Technology when all you've got to make it go are your own muscles.
Racing and Sports Car Chassis Design; Costin & Phipps: The basics of space frames, race cars the way they used to be; and some still are. You could also view it as an introduction to triangulation.
Getting Started in Electronics; Forrest M. Mimms, III: Come oooooooooon, you know you want to be a hardware guy.
Prof. E. McSquared's Original, Fantastic & Highly Edifying Calculus Primer; Swann & Johnson: Just because.
Carroll Smith's Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook; Take a wild guess: The nuts and bolts of nuts and bolts (sorry, I couldn't resist).
The CRC Handbook: I was going to say that I don't know why nobody is going to mention this one, but I see someone has. I'm surprised. Ironically I would have surprised that no one did. There's just no pleasing some people.
KFG
I'm with you, except for the small detail of being sorry I saw I-II and skipped III.
KFG
A paradigm shift in musical entertainment, if you will.
Payments for life of the author plus 70 years. It seems only fair that if the author's works are to support his heirs that your heirs should pay for your music.
KFG
I wonder what happened to his companion?
If I told you if I told I'd have to kill you I'd have to kill you.
KFG
Ah, I see your strategy now. Change your arguments mid-stream.
.
"Heritage" tomatoes. First, last and always.
You need tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do a production run of a modern processor. If you have that kind of coin kicking around, then you could afford to buy into SPARC International, or the reference MIPS designs.
Confirmation that you don't see the point, i.e., not having to buy Monasanto's genetically modified, sterile seed for every planting. Nor am I quite sure how having a million dollars implies that I have two million dollars.
If you want to dick around with toys like a Z80 . .
I'd get myself a Z80. Three bucks. Retail. But I never said I wanted to dick around with a Z80. Although they're not toys. They're still available, in bulk, because they do perfectly real work, even today. People buy them. Lots of them.
KFG
If you want "low total numerical price". . .
I'm not sure you have grasped the point of wanting a chip that anyone can make simply because they desire to do so.
KFG
Dealing with the issue could very well end up in a loss of money.
Losing a customer could very well lose you more than their money.
Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Once upon a time IBM was the evil empire. How did they achieve Imperial status? Largely by making sure their customers were always satisfied, even if it cost them money.
And hence nobody ever got fired for buying IBM. That was worth a lot of money.
KFG
". . .people are going to get fed up with ___"
I have no bubble to burst. I distinctly said "if," not "are."
In the past I have also distinctly said that I don't give a flying about whether Linux becomes "mainstream" or not; although I would appreciate a bit more hardware support.
KFG
So whether the code is modifiable or not, really isn't relevant to all but a few users, at least in the direct sense.
.maybe "mainstream usability" is overrated.
Who said anything about users?
It just seems like yet another project that probably won't have direct support from the hardware manufacturers
Yes. That is what; and only what, is required.
. .
It is. It can be a positive hinderence if you're not mainstream.
KFG
What do you mean by "commodity"?
Anyone who wants to take the trouble can grow a tomato; and just about everybody knows what to do with it once its grown.
Cheap and ubiquitous?
Z80; three bucks retail.
KFG
Try and buy yourself an ATX Alpha processor motherboard or Power PC motherboard. They exist but are insane priced because nobody buys them but uber geeks and research/science people....
Similarly 12/24/48VDC ATX power supplies are also available off the shelf; at about three hudred bucks a pop. But if you're the sort of uber geek research/science person who really needs one, well, that's what you pay.
However, if, eventually, enough people get sick enough of the MS locked down systems there just might be a market for an outside player to hit one out of the park with an open system. That's why MS and its familiars are trying hard to get laws passed to forbid it.
KFG
So if you did write an "open source BIOS," how would you keep it up to date with the multitude of different chipsets and motherboards?
Does not Open Source imply freely modifiable?
KFG
Getting a custom chip is more then just sitting around and thinking.
We don't need a custom chip. We need a true commodity chip.
KFG