Surely the alternatives couldn't be any worse? Is it simply because he earns money by writing about Windows, so he HAS to put up with it, so he could pay the bills?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, yes? You expect he'd be running Fedora to put Windows through its paces?
it's technically possible to build your own house using nothing more than an axe and a drill. ..
And if I've got an axe, I'll make the drill. Actually, only the axe head is the important bit to start out with, although chopping down that first hickory might go a bit slow.
Ahhhhhhhhh, screw it. I'm just gonna build with stone and mud.
. ..didn't think it was any more 'adult' than zelda.
"Adult" Swim means PG-14.
(reference for people who don't know what I'm talking about but are too arsed to Google it themselves, but are willing to spend 10 times the time to berate me for not including a reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Swim )
I believe it is time for the closed source community to grow up and find some common ground with Linux.
I'm somewhat puzzled by the article, he complains about lack of interaction with Outlook, than calls for Linux to create open standards and make them available to closed source software companies, as if they were behind the door marked "Beware of the Leopard" or something.
I fear he's been using the rope for more than just rigging.
I'm also just generally tired of hearing his tired thesis:
"I feel it's time for Linux to grow up and find some kind of common ground with the closed source community"
All I can think of are the words of John Hartford:
Someday my baby, when I am a man And others have taught me the best that they can They'll buy me a suit and cut off my hair And send me to work in tall buildings.
It's goodbye to the sunshine, goodbye to the dew Goodbye to the flowers and goodbye to you I'm off to the subway, I must not be late I'm going to work in tall buildings.
If it's all the same to Mr. Hartley; and even if it's not, I'm taking my kid to go sit in the meadow and smell the flowers. He can have his suits and his grown up shit. Life's too short.
If Red Hat feels differently, well, that's their problem, they told me to go take a hike anyway.
like the idea of living in a city that has nothing around it for miles except scenery, where the tallest building is nine stories tall and it's a hotel.
Well, presuming that you can't listen to the song while your friend is "borrowing" it, I think you've got a legitimate beef.
I have no idea what the license(s) on those mp3s was/were. For all we know it was perfectly legal for him to "give" the stuff to her.
Handing a book to a friend and copying a file are two different things.
A good reason to persist in buying property instead of leasing by license, don't you think?
The question is in a world where data is naturally ubiquitous is it really that different? The fact that some very strange laws must be passed to artificially maintain the monopoly suggests that something strange is going on. At the very least things are no longer working in the manner that they once did.
Perhaps people who try to make money from artificial monopolies on "things" that are actually easier to make anew than to transfer individually need to "wake up" to the new reality.
Think about that. It is easier to make a new one than to actually transfer the old one.
Think about this: if someone suddenly announced that they had invented a machine that anyone could make from parts available at Home Depot for about a hundred bucks that could duplicate any physical object from an equal mass of any other object -- there is no way in hell you would ever be legally allowed to simply go to Home Depot and construct such a machine.
what "rights and freedoms" are involved in not being able to "borrow" copyrighted music?
The same as those involved in taking a book out of the library. Publishers put up a big stink about that too. Come to think of it, they've never ceased at looking for ways to subvert that. Someday they might succeed, say with ebooks, DRM and the DMCA.
The problem is propriatary code/codecs. This is not a problem that can be fixed by including code, since a legal monopoly on such code is the very problem.
And the very problem, for good or ill, that Lin/Free/spire is trying to deal with; and, I might point out, that the GPL is trying to deal with at the root.
Surely the alternatives couldn't be any worse? Is it simply because he earns money by writing about Windows, so he HAS to put up with it, so he could pay the bills?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, yes? You expect he'd be running Fedora to put Windows through its paces?
KFG
it's technically possible to build your own house using nothing more than an axe and a drill. . .
And if I've got an axe, I'll make the drill. Actually, only the axe head is the important bit to start out with, although chopping down that first hickory might go a bit slow.
Ahhhhhhhhh, screw it. I'm just gonna build with stone and mud.
KFG
Kids these days, don't know nothin' :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_9
KFG
. . .didn't think it was any more 'adult' than zelda.
"Adult" Swim means PG-14.
(reference for people who don't know what I'm talking about but are too arsed to Google it themselves, but are willing to spend 10 times the time to berate me for not including a reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Swim )
KFG
I was kind of hoping for something a bit broader than one example heaped with a few generalities...
You're new there, aren't you?
KFG
If you find there isn't enough software for Linux, you haven't browsed your repositories.
Ahhhhhhhh, but he's not really talking about software, is he? He's talking about Microsoftcompatibleware and Buzzware.
KFG
I believe it is time for the closed source community to grow up and find some common ground with Linux.
I'm somewhat puzzled by the article, he complains about lack of interaction with Outlook, than calls for Linux to create open standards and make them available to closed source software companies, as if they were behind the door marked "Beware of the Leopard" or something.
I fear he's been using the rope for more than just rigging.
I'm also just generally tired of hearing his tired thesis:
"I feel it's time for Linux to grow up and find some kind of common ground with the closed source community"
All I can think of are the words of John Hartford:
Someday my baby, when I am a man
And others have taught me the best that they can
They'll buy me a suit and cut off my hair
And send me to work in tall buildings.
It's goodbye to the sunshine, goodbye to the dew
Goodbye to the flowers and goodbye to you
I'm off to the subway, I must not be late
I'm going to work in tall buildings.
If it's all the same to Mr. Hartley; and even if it's not, I'm taking my kid to go sit in the meadow and smell the flowers. He can have his suits and his grown up shit. Life's too short.
If Red Hat feels differently, well, that's their problem, they told me to go take a hike anyway.
KFG
"why can't schools just teach science in SCIENCE class?"
For the same reason that multipart math questions now conclude with:
"How does that make you feel?"
KFG
You have an eye? Lucky bastard. We have to share an eye between three of us.
KFG
there is not as much to do in those locations and hence to frivolously spend your $ on?
http://www.sageflyfish.com/
All depends on what it is you like to do, don't it?
KFG
These become even more difficult once one has family, house etc. and has established roots in one place.
Have you thought about finding someplace you like and then growing where you plant?
KFG
Carpetbagging Stranger: Can I take this road to Fort Smith?
Arkie Fiddler: Ain't no use.
Carpetbagging Stranger: Why not?
Arkie Fiddler: They already got one. Now go away before I taunt you a second time.
KFG
like the idea of living in a city that has nothing around it for miles except scenery, where the tallest building is nine stories tall and it's a hotel.
Knock down that damned building and I'm in.
KFG
Because it is more difficult to create a new song than random data.
.number nine. . .number nine . . . number nine. . .
Number nine. .
KFG
.. then get it hell off their machine!
Or at least that's what they think they did.
KFG
I wish there was a link to the complaints.
5 4250
Ask and ye shall receive:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/02/21
KFG
Well, presuming that you can't listen to the song while your friend is "borrowing" it, I think you've got a legitimate beef.
I have no idea what the license(s) on those mp3s was/were. For all we know it was perfectly legal for him to "give" the stuff to her.
Handing a book to a friend and copying a file are two different things.
A good reason to persist in buying property instead of leasing by license, don't you think?
The question is in a world where data is naturally ubiquitous is it really that different? The fact that some very strange laws must be passed to artificially maintain the monopoly suggests that something strange is going on. At the very least things are no longer working in the manner that they once did.
Perhaps people who try to make money from artificial monopolies on "things" that are actually easier to make anew than to transfer individually need to "wake up" to the new reality.
Think about that. It is easier to make a new one than to actually transfer the old one.
Think about this: if someone suddenly announced that they had invented a machine that anyone could make from parts available at Home Depot for about a hundred bucks that could duplicate any physical object from an equal mass of any other object -- there is no way in hell you would ever be legally allowed to simply go to Home Depot and construct such a machine.
Bonus points for knowing why not.
KFG
what "rights and freedoms" are involved in not being able to "borrow" copyrighted music?
The same as those involved in taking a book out of the library. Publishers put up a big stink about that too. Come to think of it, they've never ceased at looking for ways to subvert that. Someday they might succeed, say with ebooks, DRM and the DMCA.
KFG
Cory "posted" the article on InformationWeek, not here. Here just links to it.
If there is information in the article for the dedicated Slashdot reader it's that the message is getting out onto another "media monster's website."
KFG
You are, uh, aware there's mp3s out there on the internets?
You are, uh, aware that this comes up out there in the articles?
KFG
Be kind to your parens, though they don't deserve it. . .
KFG
Many people will still sleep with a pig though...
But I could have lived without it eating my pillow.
KFG
Get over it and fix the stupid problems!
The problem is propriatary code/codecs. This is not a problem that can be fixed by including code, since a legal monopoly on such code is the very problem.
And the very problem, for good or ill, that Lin/Free/spire is trying to deal with; and, I might point out, that the GPL is trying to deal with at the root.
KFG
Take me back to the days of BlackBox
Go for it:
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/
http://www.bb4win.org/news.php
KFG
. . .wikipedia has a lot of information that you just can't get anwhere else. . .
Isn't that the problem?
KFG