It's not about the companies that sell Linux. It's about the companies that use Linux as their operating system while doing other stuff. Or not necessairly Linux, even, but GPL'd software in general.
Sure, closed-sourced properietary software which has a 90% installed base is a better product to sell than GPL'd software. Duh.
It's not all about software distribution. Some people out there use software for other purposes than creating software.
I'll live in the Chicagoland area, and I must admit, as much as I hear horrible things about cable access, @home pretty much rocks. I don't this it has gone down for months, and I get fantastic connection speeds.
Even though they just increased the monthly cost $5, I'm still very pleased.
Plus, technical support is not quite as clueless as they used to be (They once cut the cable line going into our home, then forgot to tell the office. The support call was pretty funny. "Our cable modem doesn't work."
"Have you checked the install?"
"Yes. The last guys that came here cut the line, and they said someone would be out here to fix it soon."
"Uhhh...In our records it says the last guys that went to your home reported everything as working.")
After actually reading the article, I noticed the bogohertz(or whatever) scale. But still. . . . As much as I am a huge PC advocate, I don't think these tests were particularly good general performance indicators.
It would be nice to formulate some sort of bang-for-your buck index.
I guess this would only be useful for holy war purposes, though. It would probably be both subjective and inapplicable to most real world apps, but why do anyone of us benchmark quake/photoshop/browsing speed? anyways?
Its an open standard. Somebody had to introduce a new partition table design. MS beat linux people to the punch, and its a Good Thing(TM) too.
This support will be integrated into the Linux IA-64 kernel, so it will not be incompatible.
Come on, people. Yes, Linux (The Mob Movement(TM)) is growing (I also think this is a Good Thing(TM), but do you seriously think if we introduced a new partition specification MS would add support?
I'll defend the right of someone to say those things-- as long as the context of the conversation indicates that the threats can not be carried out.
If the speech does not directly and immediately threaten harm, they can say it. I would not, but someone could say they hated catholics, jews, irish people, poles, blacks, homosexuals, nerds, geeks, etc. . . ..
Hell, pick a troll, they'll come up with something suitably nasty. And I will defend their right to say it (though, perhaps, for the sake of decency, someone should mod it down;)
Seriously, you have to believe "this stuff". While I am not willing to go into it freedom of speech is actually quite an important right.
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Really. It is. The philosophy of various developmental scenarios of operating systems is not important to me, nor should it be to anyone else.
Yeah, sure, the epistemological and ontological questions always are important. But save those for osholywars.com or whatever.
There are only two things that matter to the survial of [Linux] (Insert your favorite open source project in between the brackets):
1. A vibrant development community
2. Belief within the commercial sector that said open source software can replace a vendor expensive proprietary software
This is not to say that there are not possible alternative developmental models, like the academia based one (residing in academia, this one has some personal attachment (but I resent it as well, knowing about the idoicy that occurs within my school sometimes))
BUT, if the [Linux] (Insert favorite open source project between the brackets) community manages to uphold those two beliefs, it will succeed.
Why? Price. Its FREE! Overhead Disappears. Not all of it, of course. A business must pay for support, and for the development of a specific software package to handle a certain task. But a good portion of the cost simply vanishes. And that doesn't even begin to describe the no longer relevant licensing issues, the copyright issues, etc....
Premise one, I think, is pretty firmly entrenched. For whatever reason it happened, it did. A significant number of programmers have embraced open source such that the sum of their works is developing FASTER than anything else. 'Nuff said.
Finally, I also believe that upholding premise two does not require this flamewar. Some of you are arguing (implicitly) that it is necessary, but it is not. By either demonstrating to technology professionals that your open source project works as well or better than anything else (Apache comes to mind) it will catch on. Or, by being that technology professional you can spread the fire the fun way (We are moving to this system. My HOUSE!!!) Either way, simply being in support of open source is enough for it to catch on. And once it has, in any given sector, capital will appear, skyscrapers will be erected, and highways of gold will be laid.
In fact, I think this is happening everywhere as we speak. This microsoft spam is a treatment for it, but I think it will be ineffectual if we ignore it.
The only target that really remains untapped is the home market, me thinks
The context of the situation is clearly relevant. Both in terms of what the readers may think, and what the law indicates. An exacting statement of the law has been posted elsewhere, but the clear intent of the statment in context must prove to be threatening. This suggests two contexts. (BTW: I am not trying to threaten you in either statement. Both are hypothetical simulations of what one might say. Please please please do not take any statement as a threat. (Why do I say this? I am a poor college student with no ability to hire a competent legal defense, have no desire to go to jail, and in all honesty, don't want to hurt anyone)).
Now for the two statements:
1. "I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR BRAIN AND DEVOUR YOUR SOUL!!!!"
2. "Remember in that weird movie, Army of Darkness (evil dead 3), when that witch said, 'I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR BRAIN AND DEVOUR YOUR SOUL!!!'? That kind of scared me."
Obviously, the first statement could be percieved as threatening. Simultaneously, the first statement exists in the second (compound) statement, yet is clearly not a threat.
Not to say this is directly relevant in his situtation, but atleast the context should have been analyzed.
Doesn't matter anyways, as you seem to have written us(whoever the monolithic slashdot community is(I can't recognize it. You must be a good degree smarter than I am to have recognized it)) off anyways.
The last statement proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Slashdot.org is dominated by people who want to help destroy Scn. That's depressing, because there is a lot of good content otherwise. But that's ok, we don't have much to worry about from a subculture more interested in jerking off to pr0n and trying to install Linux on anything with a power supply than learning about how to improve themselves or help people with their problems. Stick to your toys, children, and leave us to our work.
If this is how you really live, than please leave.
We are the children, the dreamers, and the immature.
This is how we do things. This is how we live. And this is how we drive the engine of our economy. Bugger off;)
Yup.....Even when I do use a Mac....I don't know, (BTW: I own an Athlon as my main system) I just happen to sit down at the G4 every once and a while. BUt my room mates imac, with that damn mouse......
Slashdot Mirror
Don't remember when it was posted, but a couple months ago this was covered on /.
There used to be a way to cancel your account, but then microsoft figured it was unnecessary. . . after all, who leaves the collective ?
Then for some reason (to this day) I am pretty hooked on q2.
Me, and a couple of buds, that is ;)
Don't really understand why q2'ers don't like q1, and vice versa.
I dug doom multiplayer though.
I should be able to cash in on cosumer opinion if I want.
Cyberspace is like real-estate.
No, well, it's not exactly the same :), but, I think it has the same sort of commodity-esque properties that allow it to be traded as such.
Hell yes, you should be able to use fuckmsn.com to cash in on consumer opinion.
It's not about the companies that sell Linux. It's about the companies that use Linux as their operating system while doing other stuff. Or not necessairly Linux, even, but GPL'd software in general.
Sure, closed-sourced properietary software which has a 90% installed base is a better product to sell than GPL'd software. Duh.
It's not all about software distribution. Some people out there use software for other purposes than creating software.
Bring back the goatcex.....at least that is perverse.
Even slashdot's trolls are getting weak.
Lol
Even though they just increased the monthly cost $5, I'm still very pleased.
Plus, technical support is not quite as clueless as they used to be (They once cut the cable line going into our home, then forgot to tell the office. The support call was pretty funny. "Our cable modem doesn't work."
"Have you checked the install?"
"Yes. The last guys that came here cut the line, and they said someone would be out here to fix it soon."
"Uhhh...In our records it says the last guys that went to your home reported everything as working.")
These days, however, everything is sweet.
Probably a lot cheaper now, then.
It might or might not be a troll, but its fscking hilarious!
It might be expensive in Canada, but its the going rate down here :)
My athlon doubles as an electric burner. . .
I know--that was my next comment
Check out the Jargon File.
After actually reading the article, I noticed the bogohertz(or whatever) scale. But still. . . . As much as I am a huge PC advocate, I don't think these tests were particularly good general performance indicators.
I guess this would only be useful for holy war purposes, though. It would probably be both subjective and inapplicable to most real world apps, but why do anyone of us benchmark quake/photoshop/browsing speed? anyways?
For the coolness factor, I guess. . . .
Always clueless, WhiteWolf
Refurbished+some 10% discount thing I got.
Either way I'm happy with it.
And I don't mean to sound defensive, but I do spend +8 hours a day in front of it.
Just my 2 cents
Just my 2 cents
Its an open standard. Somebody had to introduce a new partition table design. MS beat linux people to the punch, and its a Good Thing(TM) too.
This support will be integrated into the Linux IA-64 kernel, so it will not be incompatible.
Come on, people. Yes, Linux (The Mob Movement(TM)) is growing (I also think this is a Good Thing(TM), but do you seriously think if we introduced a new partition specification MS would add support?
I don't think so. Not yet, at least.
BTW: It says it pretty clearly in the faq, as well.
So it's not a big deal.
No 64-bit 'Whistler' in my future ;)
If the speech does not directly and immediately threaten harm, they can say it. I would not, but someone could say they hated catholics, jews, irish people, poles, blacks, homosexuals, nerds, geeks, etc. . . . .
Hell, pick a troll, they'll come up with something suitably nasty. And I will defend their right to say it (though, perhaps, for the sake of decency, someone should mod it down ;)
Seriously, you have to believe "this stuff". While I am not willing to go into it freedom of speech is actually quite an important right.
Somebody Mod this up.
Yeah, sure, the epistemological and ontological questions always are important. But save those for osholywars.com or whatever.
There are only two things that matter to the survial of [Linux] (Insert your favorite open source project in between the brackets):
1. A vibrant development community
2. Belief within the commercial sector that said open source software can replace a vendor expensive proprietary software
This is not to say that there are not possible alternative developmental models, like the academia based one (residing in academia, this one has some personal attachment (but I resent it as well, knowing about the idoicy that occurs within my school sometimes))
BUT, if the [Linux] (Insert favorite open source project between the brackets) community manages to uphold those two beliefs, it will succeed.
Why? Price. Its FREE! Overhead Disappears. Not all of it, of course. A business must pay for support, and for the development of a specific software package to handle a certain task. But a good portion of the cost simply vanishes. And that doesn't even begin to describe the no longer relevant licensing issues, the copyright issues, etc....
Premise one, I think, is pretty firmly entrenched. For whatever reason it happened, it did. A significant number of programmers have embraced open source such that the sum of their works is developing FASTER than anything else. 'Nuff said.
Finally, I also believe that upholding premise two does not require this flamewar. Some of you are arguing (implicitly) that it is necessary, but it is not. By either demonstrating to technology professionals that your open source project works as well or better than anything else (Apache comes to mind) it will catch on. Or, by being that technology professional you can spread the fire the fun way (We are moving to this system. My HOUSE!!!) Either way, simply being in support of open source is enough for it to catch on. And once it has, in any given sector, capital will appear, skyscrapers will be erected, and highways of gold will be laid.
In fact, I think this is happening everywhere as we speak. This microsoft spam is a treatment for it, but I think it will be ineffectual if we ignore it.
The only target that really remains untapped is the home market, me thinks
Saddle up, boys (and girls)
The game's afoot.
Now for the two statements:
1. "I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR BRAIN AND DEVOUR YOUR SOUL!!!!"
2. "Remember in that weird movie, Army of Darkness (evil dead 3), when that witch said, 'I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR BRAIN AND DEVOUR YOUR SOUL!!!'? That kind of scared me." Obviously, the first statement could be percieved as threatening. Simultaneously, the first statement exists in the second (compound) statement, yet is clearly not a threat.
Not to say this is directly relevant in his situtation, but atleast the context should have been analyzed.
Doesn't matter anyways, as you seem to have written us(whoever the monolithic slashdot community is(I can't recognize it. You must be a good degree smarter than I am to have recognized it)) off anyways.
If this is how you really live, than please leave.We are the children, the dreamers, and the immature.
This is how we do things. This is how we live. And this is how we drive the engine of our economy. Bugger off ;)
Because it is a laughing matter.
Roasted over the First Amendment :)
Hell in a hand basket? Well, at least it will give us excuses to finally use automatic weaponry.
This is a joke. This is a joke. This is a joke.
I'm probably f*cked now :).
Ewwww.....It gives me the creeps.