..OK, I'm glad it was just sarcasm. But you must know all too well then how many people there are out there for which it's not sarcasm. Sad, isn't it?:-/
But there is nothing illegal about buying milk... so why does this message need to be encrypted?
Listen, you: It's got nothing WHATSOEVER to do with the content, it is the PRINCIPLE of the thing that matters here. You, I, and everyone else should be free from being surveilled, spied on, or monitored in any way, shape, or fomr. PERIOD. Or would you enjoy being treated like a small child your entire life, or like a criminal in prison, or like an animal in a zoo? That's what it will be like living in a world where governments can see, hear, and read everything you're doing every minute of every day, cradle-to-grave. How would you like it if you couldn't even be alone in your own home without someone watching and listening to everything you do? Would you enjoy using the toilet, or having sex with your wife while government cameras and microphones see and hear all of it, profiling and judging everything you do? No? Does that idea disturb you? You let these super-anal-retentive government types have their way, that's pretty damned close to the world we'd be living in. Don't believe me? Right now, TODAY, there is damned few places you can go in public where there are NOT cameras watching you. Your cellphone can be listened in on with relative ease. The GPS on it can pinpoint your location within a few meters, and that information is free for the taking by the wireless company, which will give it to the government on demand. Your emails? Your web traffic? EVERYTHING you do online? All tracked and logged, made available to the government, ON DEMAND. Your electric and natural gas usage? Meters are wireless in most places now; hour-by-hour usage data can easily be used to determine whether you're home or not, and what you're doing at home. Got OnStar in your car? It can be used to track you, and listen in on you while you're driving -- and again, even if you don't your cellphone can be used to listen and track you anyway. ALL your financial transactions are subject to scrutiny. You decide to start using cash only for everything? The FBI and HLS flag you as a possible terrorist or criminal.
You convinced yet? Or are you one of those "If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide" people? If you are then you are dumb, and if it influences who and what you vote for, then you are helping to destroy MY and many other people's actual freedom, in exchange for imaginary 'safety' -- since all their damn surveillance of normal citizens does NOTHING to combat 'terrorism', it just gives the less-than-1% more power over everyone else. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
..ONLY OUTLAWS WILL USE ENCRYPTION. Retarded, knee-jerking, technologically clueless politicians and government officials are what need to be banned, not encryption. In the end they'd have the entire planet doing everything, including their banking and other financial transactions, in the clear, where any two-bit criminal hacker could grab the data and ruin people's lives. Meanwhile the violent assholes they're trying to stop will use whatever encryption or codes they want, and they won't be hampered one single bit. You may as well just take a fire axe to the entire Internet and go back to 1990.. or 1950.. or whatever the fuck these idiots are thinking, for all the good it'd do anyone. FOR THE TEN TRILLIONTH TIME: YOU CANNOT BAN OR WEAKEN ENCYPTION! It's a bad idea plain and simple!
Also, every time I see shit like this? It convices me more and more that what they REALLY want to do, is treat 99.999% of everyone like convicts in a prison, or animals in a zoo: watched 24/7/365, every single move and noise monitored from cradle to grave. I'd sooner blow the whole gods-be-damned planet up MYSELF, burn it all to the ground, rather than have the human race live in a world like that! Them, them, FUCK THEM sideways with an AIDS and Zika-saturated rusty chainsaw; fucktarded politicians like these are the REAL reason we can't have anything nice!
I'll tell you who is: George Bush, George W. Bush, and Dick Cheney. Destroying Iraq created the original power-vacuum in the Middle East that set off the domino effect of the Arab Spring. The so-called 'islamic state' assholes are just (attempting to) fill that vacuum.
Vote for Gary Johnson (or anyone who is NOT named 'Clinton' or 'Trump'). He won't win, but at least no one will be able to point a finger at you and say YOU are in part to blame for the fall of the United States.
Municipal broadband is something that needs to happen sooner or later, preferably sooner, and ISPs know this, which is why they're fighting against it so hard right now. For good or for ill, Internet access has become a necessity, not a luxury, in the United States; try finding a job in 2016 without the Internet, or try having school-age, or even college-age kids, without Internet access; in both cases, you're at a severe disadvantage, and are likely to be left behind. The sooner the majority of voting-age U.S. citizens get together and demand of Congress that broadband become a public utility and made available to every American at a reasonable price (or free, ala-'Universal Lifeline' telephone service), the better for everyone. Probably the best way to implement it would be wirelessly.
Force your shit OS down everyone's throat Claim the spying and pnwage of people's computer is 'for their own protection' Claim forcing updates on everyone is 'for their own protection' Still manage to get pwned by hackers
Microsoft, you fucking fail IN SO MANY WAYS that I can't even begin to count them. You didn't 'improve' anything. You didn't 'secure' anything. You're not 'protecting' users. You just forced your gods-be-damned piece of shit OS on everyone like a gods-be-damned date-rapist, and didn't even bother using a gods-be-damned CONDOM when you did the dirty deed. FUCK THE HELL OFF, MICROSOFT!
We aren't. They're putting it in terms of economics just to try to get people's attention; it's like click-bait, and it apparently worked on Slashdotters.
Keep in mind this is one of the 'green' activist groups, and like most of them, they really don't give a damn if people are happy or well-fed. They only care about what happens to the PLANET. So far as these types are concerned, humans are a disease the Earth has been infected with, and so far as they're concerned the best thing for the Earth would be if that 'infection' was stamped out; they'd just as soon see the vast majority of humans go into the ground, leaving only a relative handful, if that many even. Since they can't come out and say that without being attacked by pretty much everyone, they content themselves with trying to convince everyone to starve to death, live a subsistence-only life, using as few things and consuming as few resources as possible, and preferably not reproducing.
I've never even heard of this metric. Is this based on real science or climate activism?
I'm not sure what sort of 'science' anyone can expect from the World Wrestling Federation, aren't those guys a bunch of two-bit actors? *drum hit*
In all seriousness, I don't see how anyone can say how much 'resources' the entire human race uses in a year. If their purpose is to point out how unsustainable the human race is in general then they're stating the obvious, and the human race as a whole won't know when we're out of resources until it's too late anyway. In any event it won't happen in what's left of my lifetime, as if I could do anything substantial about it anyway, so I don't even see why I shoudl give a damn. The human race either pulls itself out of it's current downward spiral or it doesn't; lots of people way above my pay grade have orders of magnitude more to do with that than I.
Are you trying to be funny? Or are you clueless? Or are you just a talentless wanna-be troll? I'm not paying to watch TV. Especially when you PAY and still have to watch ADS. That's why there's an antenna on my roof. You're welcome to PAY to watch ADS all you want, buddy, if that's what gets you off.
They have too much done FOR them, instead of having to do it THEMSELVES. Too many gadgets, too much automation, too many 'conveniences'. Why should they bother learning knowledge or skills?
Guess what? I used to pay for cable. I gave it up as a cost-cutting measure about 10 years ago and never looked back once. I was paying a premium for a bunch of shitty channels so I could get a few shows I wanted. I decided that made no sense and just walked away. Guess what else? There's plenty on OTA TV to watch, more than I have time for during the Fall/Winter season, good thing I have a DVR. You only think you 'need' those cable-only channels, but you really don't. Why do you think more and more people are quitting cable and satellite? Also the picture quality is shit because of recompression.
You must be one of those people who reads a book once then either throws it away or sends it off to a used bookshop. I keep my books, eventually I'll forget enough details that reading it again is like reading it for the first time. You pay for a book once then you can read it as many times as you like, that's what's nice about books. Skip e-books they're just another scam.
What the hell, do you live in the middle of Alaska or something? I guess it just sucks to be you then. Read more books or something, you'll get better bang for the buck out of those.
There will ALWAYS be a market for simple, functional, inexpensive products. If not, I'll fucking build it myself. A thermostat is not complicated. Now quit with the retarded trolling.
No kidding. Magnificent Bastard that he is (and that's High Praise coming from me, by the way; it's an exclusive list). Sadly, once Shatner is gone, all we'll have left is the 'artificially Star Trek-flavored' shit they're putting out now; I don't think that George Takei, Nichelle Nichols, and Walter Koenig can carry the torch alone. The Berman era had it's flaws to be sure, but it's not the crap aimed at millennials we're being subjected to now. "Fire everything", indeed.
I think the only way you can possibly make any so-called 'smartphone' secure, is to have a hardware switch that puts the entire phone into 'read only' mode, so nothing new can be installed on it. They're like cheap swisscheese: more holes than cheese. I think I'll just keep sticking with cheap-ass $50 flip-phones. If something happens to it I can break it in half, toss it into the e-waste bin, and go get another one and nothing of value is lost. At least I don't become an unwilling participant in someones bot-net this way.
Of course I think the answer you're going to get is going to involve game consoles more than old computers. Remember, computers didn't used to be game machines or home machines, they were business machines, doing boring, adult, business-y things. Sure, there were games written for text-only computers, but that's going to be boring, boring, boring to the average modern kid, who is used to HD graphics and 6-channel surround sound.
Something else to consider in this particular case is the mention of this being on 'prime Bayfront property'. Most county governments want more revenue, and zoning that property for business use brings in more money to the county. Something as specialized as a 'childrens computer museum' is going to be more of a money pit than anything profitable.
You, I, and any number of other Slashdot readers could handle installing a thermostat for their HVAC system, even if they've never done it before; not so much for the average person, who needs to whip out a calculator for basic math, needs a YouTube video to help them change a lightbulb, and (back in the day, at least) always had "12:00" flashing on their VCR. You know, the same ones who never thought twice that their computer, one day, suddenly had Windows 10 on it? That's who these assholes will be targeting, the people who can't defend themselves to start with. The rest of us will either not fall for the 'IoT' troll/meme in the first place (like me), or will choose IoT devices that can be on an isolated network or that can otherwise be protected.
One day, your thermostat will get hacked by some cybercriminal
No, it won't: I'm not falling for the 'Internet of Things' troll/meme. You won't be hacking my thermostat, lightbulbs, dishwasher, microwave oven, clothes washer, clothes dryer, television, or any other household appliance because there's not a single damned good reason why these NEED to be connected to the Internet.
Who the actual fuck is this 'editordavid', and what's with these blatant troll 'stories' being posted? High likelihood in my opinion that Slashdot has been hacked.
That's what I propose. Terms of the settlement: Complete and total destruction of the entire database and all backups, followed by public execution by guillotine of the management staff of the company.
Yeah, I've been saying for years now that we need to go back to the Moon, and we need to build a permanent presence there, growing into a self-sustaining colony -- just not the 'colony' at the beginning of The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress; let's not use the Moon like Australia was originally used, please! Lots of things can be done on the Moon that are difficult or impossible on Earth, and things that would be safer done on the Moon in the first place. Also if an entire space industry/infrastructure can be built on the Moon, it'd be cheaper and easier to launch from there than from all the way down in Earth's gravity well.
I'd like to see PRNK try to claim the Moon, then the rest of us get up there and establish a Human presence; there would be much LOLs at Best Koreas' expense, and they'd be rich.
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..OK, I'm glad it was just sarcasm. But you must know all too well then how many people there are out there for which it's not sarcasm. Sad, isn't it? :-/
But there is nothing illegal about buying milk... so why does this message need to be encrypted?
Listen, you: It's got nothing WHATSOEVER to do with the content, it is the PRINCIPLE of the thing that matters here. You, I, and everyone else should be free from being surveilled, spied on, or monitored in any way, shape, or fomr. PERIOD. Or would you enjoy being treated like a small child your entire life, or like a criminal in prison, or like an animal in a zoo? That's what it will be like living in a world where governments can see, hear, and read everything you're doing every minute of every day, cradle-to-grave. How would you like it if you couldn't even be alone in your own home without someone watching and listening to everything you do? Would you enjoy using the toilet, or having sex with your wife while government cameras and microphones see and hear all of it, profiling and judging everything you do? No? Does that idea disturb you? You let these super-anal-retentive government types have their way, that's pretty damned close to the world we'd be living in. Don't believe me? Right now, TODAY, there is damned few places you can go in public where there are NOT cameras watching you. Your cellphone can be listened in on with relative ease. The GPS on it can pinpoint your location within a few meters, and that information is free for the taking by the wireless company, which will give it to the government on demand. Your emails? Your web traffic? EVERYTHING you do online? All tracked and logged, made available to the government, ON DEMAND. Your electric and natural gas usage? Meters are wireless in most places now; hour-by-hour usage data can easily be used to determine whether you're home or not, and what you're doing at home. Got OnStar in your car? It can be used to track you, and listen in on you while you're driving -- and again, even if you don't your cellphone can be used to listen and track you anyway. ALL your financial transactions are subject to scrutiny. You decide to start using cash only for everything? The FBI and HLS flag you as a possible terrorist or criminal.
You convinced yet? Or are you one of those "If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide" people? If you are then you are dumb, and if it influences who and what you vote for, then you are helping to destroy MY and many other people's actual freedom, in exchange for imaginary 'safety' -- since all their damn surveillance of normal citizens does NOTHING to combat 'terrorism', it just gives the less-than-1% more power over everyone else. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
..ONLY OUTLAWS WILL USE ENCRYPTION. Retarded, knee-jerking, technologically clueless politicians and government officials are what need to be banned, not encryption. In the end they'd have the entire planet doing everything, including their banking and other financial transactions, in the clear, where any two-bit criminal hacker could grab the data and ruin people's lives. Meanwhile the violent assholes they're trying to stop will use whatever encryption or codes they want, and they won't be hampered one single bit. You may as well just take a fire axe to the entire Internet and go back to 1990.. or 1950.. or whatever the fuck these idiots are thinking, for all the good it'd do anyone. FOR THE TEN TRILLIONTH TIME: YOU CANNOT BAN OR WEAKEN ENCYPTION! It's a bad idea plain and simple!
Also, every time I see shit like this? It convices me more and more that what they REALLY want to do, is treat 99.999% of everyone like convicts in a prison, or animals in a zoo: watched 24/7/365, every single move and noise monitored from cradle to grave. I'd sooner blow the whole gods-be-damned planet up MYSELF, burn it all to the ground, rather than have the human race live in a world like that! Them, them, FUCK THEM sideways with an AIDS and Zika-saturated rusty chainsaw; fucktarded politicians like these are the REAL reason we can't have anything nice!
Fucking millennials.
I'll tell you who is: George Bush, George W. Bush, and Dick Cheney. Destroying Iraq created the original power-vacuum in the Middle East that set off the domino effect of the Arab Spring. The so-called 'islamic state' assholes are just (attempting to) fill that vacuum.
Vote for Gary Johnson (or anyone who is NOT named 'Clinton' or 'Trump'). He won't win, but at least no one will be able to point a finger at you and say YOU are in part to blame for the fall of the United States.
Municipal broadband is something that needs to happen sooner or later, preferably sooner, and ISPs know this, which is why they're fighting against it so hard right now. For good or for ill, Internet access has become a necessity, not a luxury, in the United States; try finding a job in 2016 without the Internet, or try having school-age, or even college-age kids, without Internet access; in both cases, you're at a severe disadvantage, and are likely to be left behind. The sooner the majority of voting-age U.S. citizens get together and demand of Congress that broadband become a public utility and made available to every American at a reasonable price (or free, ala-'Universal Lifeline' telephone service), the better for everyone. Probably the best way to implement it would be wirelessly.
Force your shit OS down everyone's throat
Claim the spying and pnwage of people's computer is 'for their own protection'
Claim forcing updates on everyone is 'for their own protection'
Still manage to get pwned by hackers
Microsoft, you fucking fail IN SO MANY WAYS that I can't even begin to count them. You didn't 'improve' anything. You didn't 'secure' anything. You're not 'protecting' users. You just forced your gods-be-damned piece of shit OS on everyone like a gods-be-damned date-rapist, and didn't even bother using a gods-be-damned CONDOM when you did the dirty deed. FUCK THE HELL OFF, MICROSOFT!
We aren't. They're putting it in terms of economics just to try to get people's attention; it's like click-bait, and it apparently worked on Slashdotters.
Keep in mind this is one of the 'green' activist groups, and like most of them, they really don't give a damn if people are happy or well-fed. They only care about what happens to the PLANET. So far as these types are concerned, humans are a disease the Earth has been infected with, and so far as they're concerned the best thing for the Earth would be if that 'infection' was stamped out; they'd just as soon see the vast majority of humans go into the ground, leaving only a relative handful, if that many even. Since they can't come out and say that without being attacked by pretty much everyone, they content themselves with trying to convince everyone to starve to death, live a subsistence-only life, using as few things and consuming as few resources as possible, and preferably not reproducing.
I've never even heard of this metric. Is this based on real science or climate activism?
I'm not sure what sort of 'science' anyone can expect from the World Wrestling Federation, aren't those guys a bunch of two-bit actors? *drum hit*
In all seriousness, I don't see how anyone can say how much 'resources' the entire human race uses in a year. If their purpose is to point out how unsustainable the human race is in general then they're stating the obvious, and the human race as a whole won't know when we're out of resources until it's too late anyway. In any event it won't happen in what's left of my lifetime, as if I could do anything substantial about it anyway, so I don't even see why I shoudl give a damn. The human race either pulls itself out of it's current downward spiral or it doesn't; lots of people way above my pay grade have orders of magnitude more to do with that than I.
Are you trying to be funny? Or are you clueless? Or are you just a talentless wanna-be troll?
I'm not paying to watch TV. Especially when you PAY and still have to watch ADS. That's why there's an antenna on my roof. You're welcome to PAY to watch ADS all you want, buddy, if that's what gets you off.
They have too much done FOR them, instead of having to do it THEMSELVES. Too many gadgets, too much automation, too many 'conveniences'. Why should they bother learning knowledge or skills?
Microsoft shill PLEASE LEAVE!!! We don't want or need your bullshit around here, fuck the fuck off!!!
Guess what? I used to pay for cable. I gave it up as a cost-cutting measure about 10 years ago and never looked back once. I was paying a premium for a bunch of shitty channels so I could get a few shows I wanted. I decided that made no sense and just walked away. Guess what else? There's plenty on OTA TV to watch, more than I have time for during the Fall/Winter season, good thing I have a DVR. You only think you 'need' those cable-only channels, but you really don't. Why do you think more and more people are quitting cable and satellite? Also the picture quality is shit because of recompression.
You must be one of those people who reads a book once then either throws it away or sends it off to a used bookshop. I keep my books, eventually I'll forget enough details that reading it again is like reading it for the first time. You pay for a book once then you can read it as many times as you like, that's what's nice about books. Skip e-books they're just another scam.
What the hell, do you live in the middle of Alaska or something? I guess it just sucks to be you then. Read more books or something, you'll get better bang for the buck out of those.
They fell for the 'streaming TV' meme, LOL!
OTA broadcasts + TiVo + 30_second_skip_enabled = Free TV, no ads.
Oh, and by the way: You're paying for TV three times now: Pay for internet, pay for the streaming service, and be subjected to ads. Suckers!
There will ALWAYS be a market for simple, functional, inexpensive products. If not, I'll fucking build it myself. A thermostat is not complicated. Now quit with the retarded trolling.
No kidding. Magnificent Bastard that he is (and that's High Praise coming from me, by the way; it's an exclusive list). Sadly, once Shatner is gone, all we'll have left is the 'artificially Star Trek-flavored' shit they're putting out now; I don't think that George Takei, Nichelle Nichols, and Walter Koenig can carry the torch alone. The Berman era had it's flaws to be sure, but it's not the crap aimed at millennials we're being subjected to now. "Fire everything", indeed.
I think the only way you can possibly make any so-called 'smartphone' secure, is to have a hardware switch that puts the entire phone into 'read only' mode, so nothing new can be installed on it. They're like cheap swisscheese: more holes than cheese. I think I'll just keep sticking with cheap-ass $50 flip-phones. If something happens to it I can break it in half, toss it into the e-waste bin, and go get another one and nothing of value is lost. At least I don't become an unwilling participant in someones bot-net this way.
Of course I think the answer you're going to get is going to involve game consoles more than old computers. Remember, computers didn't used to be game machines or home machines, they were business machines, doing boring, adult, business-y things. Sure, there were games written for text-only computers, but that's going to be boring, boring, boring to the average modern kid, who is used to HD graphics and 6-channel surround sound.
Something else to consider in this particular case is the mention of this being on 'prime Bayfront property'. Most county governments want more revenue, and zoning that property for business use brings in more money to the county. Something as specialized as a 'childrens computer museum' is going to be more of a money pit than anything profitable.
You, I, and any number of other Slashdot readers could handle installing a thermostat for their HVAC system, even if they've never done it before; not so much for the average person, who needs to whip out a calculator for basic math, needs a YouTube video to help them change a lightbulb, and (back in the day, at least) always had "12:00" flashing on their VCR. You know, the same ones who never thought twice that their computer, one day, suddenly had Windows 10 on it? That's who these assholes will be targeting, the people who can't defend themselves to start with. The rest of us will either not fall for the 'IoT' troll/meme in the first place (like me), or will choose IoT devices that can be on an isolated network or that can otherwise be protected.
One day, your thermostat will get hacked by some cybercriminal
No, it won't: I'm not falling for the 'Internet of Things' troll/meme. You won't be hacking my thermostat, lightbulbs, dishwasher, microwave oven, clothes washer, clothes dryer, television, or any other household appliance because there's not a single damned good reason why these NEED to be connected to the Internet.
Who the actual fuck is this 'editordavid', and what's with these blatant troll 'stories' being posted? High likelihood in my opinion that Slashdot has been hacked.
That's what I propose. Terms of the settlement: Complete and total destruction of the entire database and all backups, followed by public execution by guillotine of the management staff of the company.
Yeah, I've been saying for years now that we need to go back to the Moon, and we need to build a permanent presence there, growing into a self-sustaining colony -- just not the 'colony' at the beginning of The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress; let's not use the Moon like Australia was originally used, please! Lots of things can be done on the Moon that are difficult or impossible on Earth, and things that would be safer done on the Moon in the first place. Also if an entire space industry/infrastructure can be built on the Moon, it'd be cheaper and easier to launch from there than from all the way down in Earth's gravity well.
I'd like to see PRNK try to claim the Moon, then the rest of us get up there and establish a Human presence; there would be much LOLs at Best Koreas' expense, and they'd be rich.
2016:
Still using single-factor authentication
Pretending your data and accounts are 'secure'
{click for reaction visual}
I have Bad News for you, sir: You don't understand what 'secure' means.